"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to be
broken....

NS

I thought you'd use the analogy of the "gun" and the "person holding it"
instead.

Do tell, what harm would a cb reapeater do in comparison to a car wrecking
at 100mph?

Standing by....

Don

"NO SPAM" wrote in message
erio.net...

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to
be
broken....

NS

"NO SPAM" wrote in message
erio.net...

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to
be
broken....

NS

If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic.
Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed
limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with 1200
watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard.

-Dr.X

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"NO SPAM" wrote in message
erio.net...

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can
get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've
done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible
for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to
be
broken....

NS

If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic.
Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed
limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with
1200
watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard.

-Dr.X



The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving faster
than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc...
ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in this
case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is
which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage done in
going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any
comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want
people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly statement -
they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think mine
did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A "heart
monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and allows
the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may
interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going down the
road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other forms
of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought to
do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within
proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no matter, if
you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well with
you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come.

NS

Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to
already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread
that said/argued otherwise.

Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a
repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't
gonna cut it :-)

Don

"NO SPAM" wrote in message
rio.net...
"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"NO SPAM" wrote in message
erio.net...

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can
get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better
than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the
crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since
I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've
done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible
for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't
to
be
broken....

NS

If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more
realistic.
Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed
limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with
1200
watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard.

-Dr.X



The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving faster
than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc...
ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in
this
case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is
which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage done
in
going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any
comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want
people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly statement -
they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think mine
did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A "heart
monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and
allows
the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may
interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going down
the
road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other
forms
of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought to
do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within
proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no matter,
if
you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well
with
you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come.

NS

Call the FCC and ask them, they're the ones who made the law, not me. I'm
not going to waste anymore time on this. It's illegal, I didn't make it that
way, and I'm not going to burn hours to defend it.

NS

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to
already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread
that said/argued otherwise.

Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a
repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't
gonna cut it :-)

Don

"NO SPAM" wrote in message
rio.net...
"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"NO SPAM" wrote in message
erio.net...

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can
get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better
than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the
crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked
great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic
since
I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've
done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially
responsible
for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't
to
be
broken....

NS

If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more
realistic.
Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed
limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with
1200
watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard.

-Dr.X



The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving
faster
than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps,
etc...
ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in
this
case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is
which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage done
in
going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any
comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't
want
people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly
statement -
they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think mine
did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A
"heart
monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and
allows
the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may
interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going down
the
road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other
forms
of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought
to
do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within
proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no matter,
if
you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well
with
you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come.

NS

You'll just burn hours posting 8 times to tell us it's illegal.

My guess would be that a repeater has the sofistication and skill level to
operate/setup and is out of the TARGET that 11 meters was designed
for....the "push and talk" crowd. Other than it not fitting the agenda of a
"citizen band", I can't think of any other reason.

Don

"NO SPAM" wrote in message
rio.net...
Call the FCC and ask them, they're the ones who made the law, not me. I'm
not going to waste anymore time on this. It's illegal, I didn't make it
that
way, and I'm not going to burn hours to defend it.

NS

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to
already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread
that said/argued otherwise.

Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a
repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't
gonna cut it :-)

Don

"NO SPAM" wrote in message
rio.net...
"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"NO SPAM" wrote in message
erio.net...

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is
a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you
can
get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better
than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the
crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked
great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic
since
I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and
you've
done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially
responsible
for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it
isn't
to
be
broken....

NS

If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more
realistic.
Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the
speed
limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with
1200
watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard.

-Dr.X



The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving
faster
than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps,
etc...
ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in
this
case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation
is
which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage
done
in
going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any
comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't
want
people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly
statement -
they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think
mine
did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A
"heart
monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and
allows
the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may
interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going
down
the
road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other
forms
of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought
to
do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within
proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no
matter,
if
you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well
with
you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come.

NS

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to
already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread
that said/argued otherwise.

Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a
repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't
gonna cut it :-)

Don

Hi M-Tech! How are ya?

Let me see if I can help you with that Don. You see, some hams take offense
when a common "CB'er" does something that might take some intelligence to
do. Most hams don't care that running an 11 meter repeater is illegal. They
care more that a CB'er might enjoy some of the capabilities that should be
reserved for a privileged few. The ego of the more common amateur radio
operator can seriously compete with some of the "channel masters" of the 11
meter band. Many of them break their own arms trying to pat themselves on
the back for being such a smart tech or because they bought such great
equipment. Let a CB'er build his own amp or transmitter and they're ready to
pounce. "Can't let the trailer trash get too smart, nooooo. They might
actually accomplish something. Wouldn't want that to happen."

Anyway, I hope this helps you to understand even a little bit about his
point (aside from "IT'S ILLEGAL!", that is).

-Dr.X

Yeah. I already figured what his "point" was :-) I just didn't like the
implication of the 100mph analogy and it's possible cause to bodily harm
being used as a comparison to operating a 4watt repeater!! I thought his
first post of "because it's
illegal" was enough.

Anyway, I've been good:-) Still trying to find you guys on 37-38
lsb/usb(Twist and you). Conditions have just been terrible lately.

Don

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to
already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread
that said/argued otherwise.

Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a
repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't
gonna cut it :-)

Don

Hi M-Tech! How are ya?

Let me see if I can help you with that Don. You see, some hams take
offense
when a common "CB'er" does something that might take some intelligence to
do. Most hams don't care that running an 11 meter repeater is illegal.
They
care more that a CB'er might enjoy some of the capabilities that should be
reserved for a privileged few. The ego of the more common amateur radio
operator can seriously compete with some of the "channel masters" of the
11
meter band. Many of them break their own arms trying to pat themselves on
the back for being such a smart tech or because they bought such great
equipment. Let a CB'er build his own amp or transmitter and they're ready
to
pounce. "Can't let the trailer trash get too smart, nooooo. They might
actually accomplish something. Wouldn't want that to happen."

Anyway, I hope this helps you to understand even a little bit about his
point (aside from "IT'S ILLEGAL!", that is).

-Dr.X