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A "CB" repeater??????
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf
This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry |
I heard K4KWH on there acting like a fool.
In article , Jerry says... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry |
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... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry IT MOST CERTAINLY IS........... NS |
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... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X |
"Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to be broken.... NS |
I thought you'd use the analogy of the "gun" and the "person holding it"
instead. Do tell, what harm would a cb reapeater do in comparison to a car wrecking at 100mph? Standing by.... Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message erio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to be broken.... NS |
Personally, don't like em'. Ruins the fun of dx.....It's just like the
hammies getting all up on that internet repeater crap. What fun/challenge is that? Oh well, different strokes:-) Don "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X |
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erio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to be broken.... NS If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic. Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with 1200 watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard. -Dr.X |
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... "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X "M-Tech" wrote in message ... Personally, don't like em'. Ruins the fun of dx.....It's just like the hammies getting all up on that internet repeater crap. What fun/challenge is that? Oh well, different strokes:-) Don Well, I've never tried using one for dx. I'd rather do that without any help. The repeater was just for getting mobiles and hand healds on an equal playing field with base stations around town. For that, it works great. When the skip starts rolling, your freind across town isn't going to hear you while your on a trc-216 even if you have it's antena fully extended. (unless you connect it to an external antenna and maybe run up some heat). -Dr.X |
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... "NO SPAM" wrote in message erio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to be broken.... NS If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic. Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with 1200 watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard. -Dr.X The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving faster than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc... ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in this case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage done in going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly statement - they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think mine did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A "heart monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and allows the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going down the road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other forms of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought to do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no matter, if you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well with you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. NS |
Ah...good point.
Don Well, I've never tried using one for dx. I'd rather do that without any help. The repeater was just for getting mobiles and hand healds on an equal playing field with base stations around town. For that, it works great. When the skip starts rolling, your freind across town isn't going to hear you while your on a trc-216 even if you have it's antena fully extended. (unless you connect it to an external antenna and maybe run up some heat). -Dr.X |
Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to
already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread that said/argued otherwise. Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't gonna cut it :-) Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message rio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "NO SPAM" wrote in message erio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to be broken.... NS If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic. Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with 1200 watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard. -Dr.X The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving faster than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc... ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in this case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage done in going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly statement - they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think mine did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A "heart monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and allows the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going down the road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other forms of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought to do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no matter, if you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well with you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. NS |
Call the FCC and ask them, they're the ones who made the law, not me. I'm
not going to waste anymore time on this. It's illegal, I didn't make it that way, and I'm not going to burn hours to defend it. NS "M-Tech" wrote in message ... Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread that said/argued otherwise. Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't gonna cut it :-) Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message rio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "NO SPAM" wrote in message erio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to be broken.... NS If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic. Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with 1200 watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard. -Dr.X The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving faster than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc... ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in this case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage done in going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly statement - they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think mine did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A "heart monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and allows the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going down the road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other forms of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought to do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no matter, if you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well with you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. NS |
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rio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "NO SPAM" wrote in message erio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to be broken.... NS If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic. Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with 1200 watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard. -Dr.X The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Nope, and I doubt you exceed the speed limit just because it's illegal too. (and please don't say you've never exceeded the speed limit 'cuz I just won't believe you). Driving faster than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc... ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? Nope. ANY analogy could be used in this case. You're right. I misread. My humble apologies on that. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is which is against the laws of the land. So I've heard... *yawn* As for comparing the damage done in going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, Snip useless soapbox on your medical knowledge since you're not too stupid to understand what was meant in the first place Ok, to fix the 1200 watts into the hospital analogy, we'll forget that situation and I'll give you one that you and I can both relate to better. I live in an apartment complex. If you lived in the apartment next door to me, would you rather put up with me kicking on a 1200 watt box on an indoor dipole, or would it be better that I just use my 2 watt walkie talkie to connect to a repeater so I can talk with my friends? I don't think I need to explain what the hot box would do to your television reception (and possibly reception on lots of other consumer level entertainment equipment). And stop crying about "it's illegal!". If I want to get out, I'll get out weather you like it or not. Personally, I think to choose to use the repeater would be more responsible of me and respectful to you as my neighbor. But no matter, if you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well wit h you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. I think I'll attract less of Uncle Charlie's attention if I use the repeater and more if I use the 1200w amp, don't you? -Dr.X |
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... Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread that said/argued otherwise. Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't gonna cut it :-) Don Hi M-Tech! How are ya? Let me see if I can help you with that Don. You see, some hams take offense when a common "CB'er" does something that might take some intelligence to do. Most hams don't care that running an 11 meter repeater is illegal. They care more that a CB'er might enjoy some of the capabilities that should be reserved for a privileged few. The ego of the more common amateur radio operator can seriously compete with some of the "channel masters" of the 11 meter band. Many of them break their own arms trying to pat themselves on the back for being such a smart tech or because they bought such great equipment. Let a CB'er build his own amp or transmitter and they're ready to pounce. "Can't let the trailer trash get too smart, nooooo. They might actually accomplish something. Wouldn't want that to happen." Anyway, I hope this helps you to understand even a little bit about his point (aside from "IT'S ILLEGAL!", that is). -Dr.X |
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"Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry IT MOST CERTAINLY IS........... NS where did you get this info that it is illegal? no flame just curious. |
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et... NO SPAM wrote: "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry IT MOST CERTAINLY IS........... NS where did you get this info that it is illegal? no flame just curious. quote FCC: Part 95, RULE 19 - Remote Control Operations {A} You MAY NOT operate a CB station transmitter by RADIO remote control. {B} You MAY operate a CB transmitter by WIRELINE remote control IF you obtain specific approval in writing from the FCC. To obtain FCC approval you must show why you need to operate your station by wireline remote control. Send your request and justification to: FCC, Gettysburg, PA 17325. If you receive FCC approval, you must keep the approval as part of your station records (read Rule 27 on station records). /quote In other words, a repeater is just a radio remote controled station. Even if you put the receiver (input) at one end of town and you get approval to wire control the transmitter (output) at the other end of town, you are still indirectly operating the transmiter by radio remote control (illegal). Sux, don't it. -Dr.X |
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"jim" wrote in message et... NO SPAM wrote: "Jerry" wrote in message . net... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry IT MOST CERTAINLY IS........... NS where did you get this info that it is illegal? no flame just curious. quote FCC: Part 95, RULE 19 - Remote Control Operations {A} You MAY NOT operate a CB station transmitter by RADIO remote control. {B} You MAY operate a CB transmitter by WIRELINE remote control IF you obtain specific approval in writing from the FCC. To obtain FCC approval you must show why you need to operate your station by wireline remote control. Send your request and justification to: FCC, Gettysburg, PA 17325. If you receive FCC approval, you must keep the approval as part of your station records (read Rule 27 on station records). /quote In other words, a repeater is just a radio remote controled station. Even if you put the receiver (input) at one end of town and you get approval to wire control the transmitter (output) at the other end of town, you are still indirectly operating the transmiter by radio remote control (illegal). Sux, don't it. -Dr.X hmmm yeah it does. sort of squelches any innovation. thanx... |
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et... Dr.X wrote: "jim" wrote in message et... NO SPAM wrote: "Jerry" wrote in message . net... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry IT MOST CERTAINLY IS........... NS where did you get this info that it is illegal? no flame just curious. quote FCC: Part 95, RULE 19 - Remote Control Operations {A} You MAY NOT operate a CB station transmitter by RADIO remote control. {B} You MAY operate a CB transmitter by WIRELINE remote control IF you obtain specific approval in writing from the FCC. To obtain FCC approval you must show why you need to operate your station by wireline remote control. Send your request and justification to: FCC, Gettysburg, PA 17325. If you receive FCC approval, you must keep the approval as part of your station records (read Rule 27 on station records). /quote In other words, a repeater is just a radio remote controled station. Even if you put the receiver (input) at one end of town and you get approval to wire control the transmitter (output) at the other end of town, you are still indirectly operating the transmiter by radio remote control (illegal). Sux, don't it. -Dr.X hmmm yeah it does. sort of squelches any innovation. thanx... Yeah it does. DA MAN IS KEEPIN' US DOWN! ;-P -Dr.X |
You'll just burn hours posting 8 times to tell us it's illegal.
My guess would be that a repeater has the sofistication and skill level to operate/setup and is out of the TARGET that 11 meters was designed for....the "push and talk" crowd. Other than it not fitting the agenda of a "citizen band", I can't think of any other reason. Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message rio.net... Call the FCC and ask them, they're the ones who made the law, not me. I'm not going to waste anymore time on this. It's illegal, I didn't make it that way, and I'm not going to burn hours to defend it. NS "M-Tech" wrote in message ... Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread that said/argued otherwise. Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't gonna cut it :-) Don "NO SPAM" wrote in message rio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "NO SPAM" wrote in message erio.net... "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Jerry" wrote in message ... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get away with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with a HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time. -Dr.X Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to be broken.... NS If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic. Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with 1200 watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard. -Dr.X The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving faster than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc... ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in this case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage done in going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly statement - they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think mine did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A "heart monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and allows the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going down the road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other forms of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought to do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no matter, if you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well with you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. NS |
Yeah. I already figured what his "point" was :-) I just didn't like the
implication of the 100mph analogy and it's possible cause to bodily harm being used as a comparison to operating a 4watt repeater!! I thought his first post of "because it's illegal" was enough. Anyway, I've been good:-) Still trying to find you guys on 37-38 lsb/usb(Twist and you). Conditions have just been terrible lately. Don "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "M-Tech" wrote in message ... Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread that said/argued otherwise. Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't gonna cut it :-) Don Hi M-Tech! How are ya? Let me see if I can help you with that Don. You see, some hams take offense when a common "CB'er" does something that might take some intelligence to do. Most hams don't care that running an 11 meter repeater is illegal. They care more that a CB'er might enjoy some of the capabilities that should be reserved for a privileged few. The ego of the more common amateur radio operator can seriously compete with some of the "channel masters" of the 11 meter band. Many of them break their own arms trying to pat themselves on the back for being such a smart tech or because they bought such great equipment. Let a CB'er build his own amp or transmitter and they're ready to pounce. "Can't let the trailer trash get too smart, nooooo. They might actually accomplish something. Wouldn't want that to happen." Anyway, I hope this helps you to understand even a little bit about his point (aside from "IT'S ILLEGAL!", that is). -Dr.X |
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... "NO SPAM" wrote: All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. NS We're taking turns now? Hi Steveo! Yeah, we're taking turns. lol. Who's turn is it now?..I'd like to get it over with. :-D When it's my turn to get busted, I'll let NS know. It'll make his day, I think. -Dr.X |
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... http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry Oh geeze...I just now took a min. to look at this project. I should have kept quiet. That's no repeater. Store and rebroadcast? I guess it still qualifies as a repeater since it literally repeats everything, but it sucks. Who would want that peace of junk? I thought you were talking about relaying in real time like a normal repeater. In this case, I wouldn't even bother with such a device. -Dr.X (hmph!) |
"Dr.X" wrote in message
... "Steveo" wrote in message ... "NO SPAM" wrote: All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. NS We're taking turns now? Hi Steveo! Yeah, we're taking turns. lol. Who's turn is it now?..I'd like to get it over with. :-D When it's my turn to get busted, I'll let NS know. It'll make his day, I think. -Dr.X Frankly Dr. X, I don't give a damned!!!!! If you get busted, that is YOUR problem, not mine. I could care less. Was just pointing out, a CB Repeater is illegal anyway you try to spin it. Protest to the FCC who made it that way. Ask them for THEIR reasons. "I" do not make their rules. But I will say, I've known many who said they'd never get busted. Never say never. It happens in due time. One guy (A CBer) was very defiant and got busted as many times as he ignored their rules. Paid upwards of $50,000 in fines and lost all equipment each time. So, if you have money to gamble, be my guest. How does the saying go.... "A fool and his money are soon parted"? NS |
"Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Steveo" wrote in message ... "NO SPAM" wrote: All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. NS We're taking turns now? Hi Steveo! Yeah, we're taking turns. lol. Who's turn is it now?..I'd like to get it over with. :-D When it's my turn to get busted, I'll let NS know. It'll make his day, I think. -Dr.X LOL!! I've had 3 tickets in the last 27 years, not one notice on my radio equipment being illegal.........Pretty funny! Landshark -- That does suck..sometimes you're the windshield..sometimes you're the bug. |
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... "Landshark" wrote: "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Steveo" wrote in message ... "NO SPAM" wrote: All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. NS We're taking turns now? Hi Steveo! Yeah, we're taking turns. lol. Who's turn is it now?..I'd like to get it over with. :-D When it's my turn to get busted, I'll let NS know. It'll make his day, I think. -Dr.X LOL!! I've had 3 tickets in the last 27 years, not one notice on my radio equipment being illegal.........Pretty funny! Landshark Word! No one I know has ever received an NAL notice either. This chump is ****ing in the wind. Like I said, some hams just don't like it when an 11 meter op doesn't fit in the "common CB'er" mold. -Dr.X |
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... "Dr.X" wrote: "Steveo" wrote in message ... "NO SPAM" wrote: All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. NS We're taking turns now? Hi Steveo! Yeah, we're taking turns. lol. Who's turn is it now?..I'd like to get it over with. :-D When it's my turn to get busted, I'll let NS know. It'll make his day, I think. -Dr.X Hey..no cutting in line..take a number and wait like the rest of us! g Well dang...that's gonna be a long @ss wait. lmao! -Dr.X |
"Steveo" wrote in message ... "Landshark" wrote: "Dr.X" wrote in message ... "Steveo" wrote in message ... "NO SPAM" wrote: All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come. NS We're taking turns now? Hi Steveo! Yeah, we're taking turns. lol. Who's turn is it now?..I'd like to get it over with. :-D When it's my turn to get busted, I'll let NS know. It'll make his day, I think. -Dr.X LOL!! I've had 3 tickets in the last 27 years, not one notice on my radio equipment being illegal.........Pretty funny! Landshark Word! No one I know has ever received an NAL notice either. This chump is ****ing in the wind. On the contrary, I've known a couple of people that got them. One was using a Moonraker 6 with 2500 watts, turning on touch lights 2 blocks away. The other was running 5000 watts 2 blocks from the PBS TV station in San Francisco, both not to smart. Keep it low keyed and clean and usually nothing will ever happen. Landshark -- The world is good-natured to people who are good natured. |
"M-Tech" wrote in message
... I'm still listening to why a repeater should be illegal on a CB freq.... My guess would be the same reason as the distance rule. That distance rule is not exactly enforceable as it is, without allowing repeaters to extend distance. I believe that Australia allow repeaters on CB, and I have not yet heard of anyone being run over by one going at 100MPH. Regards, Peter. http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/ |
Isn't the aussie CB band UHF?
That makes a big difference. An HF repeater can cause interference pretty much worldwide. UHF would only cover a few 10's of miles. We have the same issues with 6 meter and 10 meter repeaters, though they are legal for hams. -- KC6ETE Dave's Engineering Page, www.dvanhorn.org Microcontroller Consultant, specializing in Atmel AVR |
"Dave VanHorn" wrote in message
... Isn't the aussie CB band UHF? That makes a big difference. An HF repeater can cause interference pretty much worldwide. UHF would only cover a few 10's of miles. We have the same issues with 6 meter and 10 meter repeaters, though they are legal for hams. -- KC6ETE Dave's Engineering Page, www.dvanhorn.org Microcontroller Consultant, specializing in Atmel AVR Hi Dave. Tell me please. What remedies are there for such issues in 10 meter? Just wondering. Or is the inadvertent skip ok with the hams (possibly a welcome side affect)? Thanks, -Dr.X |
Tell me please. What remedies are there for such issues in 10 meter? Just
wondering. Or is the inadvertent skip ok with the hams (possibly a welcome side affect)? PL tones, and coordination, carefully limiting the number of repeaters in use, and their power output. They may even control their power according to band conditions, but I'm not sure on that. The only repeaters I've worked on, were 2M and higher, so I don't have direct experience there. You might look up one of the 10M repeater callsigns, and email the licence holder, and ask him. |
"Dave VanHorn" wrote in message
... Tell me please. What remedies are there for such issues in 10 meter? Just wondering. Or is the inadvertent skip ok with the hams (possibly a welcome side affect)? PL tones, and coordination, carefully limiting the number of repeaters in use, and their power output. Yeah, the hams are very good at coordination/cooperation. Something seriously lacking in 11 meters (but that's stating the obvious I guess). They may even control their power according to band conditions, but I'm not sure on that. Yeah, I thought about limiting output power but it seems to me that if I can talk skip with 500 mw on 11 meters, then scaling back couldn't be much help. Skip will roll when skip wants to roll. Maybe a high angle of radioation would allow good local and limit the ability to dx. (anyone with good antenna theory have ideas on that?) The only repeaters I've worked on, were 2M and higher, so I don't have direct experience there. You might look up one of the 10M repeater callsigns, and email the licence holder, and ask him. Thanks Dave. I'll do that. -Dr.X |
"Jerry" wrote:
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry Who cares? They suck used cock anyway. click-click |
(I Am Not George) wrote:
Steveo wrote: "Jerry" wrote: http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry Who cares? They suck used cock anyway. click-click thats why your on CB lol Hey lol boi, this is a CB newsgroup. ----move on --------- |
There are antenna designs that radiate most of their power skyward, high
angle, for short range comms.. I can't recall the name at the moment.. -- KC6ETE Dave's Engineering Page, www.dvanhorn.org Microcontroller Consultant, specializing in Atmel AVR |
"Dave VanHorn" wrote in message
... There are antenna designs that radiate most of their power skyward, high angle, for short range comms.. I can't recall the name at the moment. N.V.I.S. (Near Vertical Incidence Skywave) http://www.qsl.net/wb5ude/nvis/ -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384 QRP ARCI #11782 |
Steveo wrote:
"Jerry" wrote: http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry Who cares? They suck used cock anyway. click-click if i remember right the original poster was from canada who posted the directions for building a repeater. how that affects u.s. users is open to interpretation. the other point is how jerry posts 'chicken band' and takes offence when someone jams him for being anti cb. hypocrite as twisty might say. |
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote: "Jerry" wrote: http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a "repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? :(. Jerry Who cares? They suck used cock anyway. click-click if i remember right the original poster was from canada who posted the directions for building a repeater. how that affects u.s. users is open to interpretation. the other point is how jerry posts 'chicken band' and takes offence when someone jams him for being anti cb. hypocrite as twisty might say. All's I can say is good luck with it. Legal or not. -- Kerry voted for that, before he voted against it. |
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