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FCC fears in the 1960's?
Hey, has anyone who was into CB or walkie talkies back in the mid
1960's ever heard of rumors that an FCC operative who went by a code name of "The Colonel" was in the midwest, looking for people who operated on the illegal basement channels (to be specific, 20 below channel 1)? I think that all of us had fears (even paranoia) about the FCC back then, and we made sure we had our licenses, and obeyed the rules while on the CB. Nevertheless, I was fascinated by chatter back then over this so called "Colonel", and wonder if anyone out here heard the same rumors (or knows anything factual)? Thanks -Stephen |
"Stephen" wrote in message
om... Hey, has anyone who was into CB or walkie talkies back in the mid 1960's ever heard of rumors that an FCC operative who went by a code name of "The Colonel" was in the midwest, looking for people who operated on the illegal basement channels (to be specific, 20 below channel 1)? I think that all of us had fears (even paranoia) about the FCC back then, and we made sure we had our licenses, and obeyed the rules while on the CB. Nevertheless, I was fascinated by chatter back then over this so called "Colonel", and wonder if anyone out here heard the same rumors (or knows anything factual)? Thanks -Stephen Don't know about the Colonel, but here it was "Uncle Charley" and they DID nab a few people for running power. Not once but a few times. They fined the operators and confiscated all equipment. TRM |
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"Stephen" wrote in message om... Hey, has anyone who was into CB or walkie talkies back in the mid 1960's ever heard of rumors that an FCC operative who went by a code name of "The Colonel" was in the midwest, looking for people who operated on the illegal basement channels (to be specific, 20 below channel 1)? I think that all of us had fears (even paranoia) about the FCC back then, and we made sure we had our licenses, and obeyed the rules while on the CB. Nevertheless, I was fascinated by chatter back then over this so called "Colonel", and wonder if anyone out here heard the same rumors (or knows anything factual)? Thanks -Stephen Don't know about the Colonel, but here it was "Uncle Charley" and they DID nab a few people for running power. Not once but a few times. They fined the operators and confiscated all equipment. Yep, -Charley- was the handle we used for them in Ohio too, back in the CB boom era. IIRC we were always looking for vans that looked like pin cushions. lol I can recall searching for someone to talk to on CB in the late 60's to early 70's. Had my tube'r Lafayette and a droopy drawers on the chimney, that my dad was nice enough to install for me. Those were simpler times, but a little Mayberry never hurt anyone. :) |
Thanks for the replies. Yes, UNCLE CHARLIE was know by everyone, and
he did get tough. But, I just wondered if the infamous "COLONEL" was known by anyone else in any other area. Thanks! |
or should i say who he thinks in his mind i am...:D
harv "Steveo" wrote in message ... | "OH YEAH" wrote: | "Stephen" wrote in message | om... | Hey, has anyone who was into CB or walkie talkies back in the mid | 1960's ever heard of rumors that an FCC operative who went by a code | name of "The Colonel" was in the midwest, looking for people who | operated on the illegal basement channels (to be specific, 20 below | channel 1)? | | I think that all of us had fears (even paranoia) about the FCC back | then, and we made sure we had our licenses, and obeyed the rules while | on the CB. Nevertheless, I was fascinated by chatter back then over | this so called "Colonel", and wonder if anyone out here heard the same | rumors (or knows anything factual)? Thanks | | -Stephen | | Don't know about the Colonel, but here it was "Uncle Charley" and they | DID nab a few people for running power. Not once but a few times. | They fined the operators and confiscated all equipment. | | Yep, -Charley- was the handle we used for them in Ohio too, back in | the CB boom era. IIRC we were always looking for vans that looked like | pin cushions. lol | | I can recall searching for someone to talk to on CB in the late 60's to | early 70's. Had my tube'r Lafayette and a droopy drawers on the chimney, | that my dad was nice enough to install for me. | | Those were simpler times, but a little Mayberry never hurt anyone. :) |
"harvey" wrote:
or should i say who he thinks in his mind i am...:D harv Huh? |
havnt a clue how that got there...LOL
harv "Steveo" wrote in message ... | "harvey" wrote: | or should i say who he thinks in his mind i am...:D | harv | | Huh? |
The "Colonel" after having a dismal career trying to apprehend fugative
cb'ers, decided to close up shop and start a "fast-food style" chicken resturant:-) Seriously, don't you mean "Charlie"? That's what we always called the FCC anyway. Don "Stephen" wrote in message om... Hey, has anyone who was into CB or walkie talkies back in the mid 1960's ever heard of rumors that an FCC operative who went by a code name of "The Colonel" was in the midwest, looking for people who operated on the illegal basement channels (to be specific, 20 below channel 1)? I think that all of us had fears (even paranoia) about the FCC back then, and we made sure we had our licenses, and obeyed the rules while on the CB. Nevertheless, I was fascinated by chatter back then over this so called "Colonel", and wonder if anyone out here heard the same rumors (or knows anything factual)? Thanks -Stephen |
No, I meant THE COLONEL, as being seperate from Uncle Charlie. From
what I heard back in those days, THE COLONEL operated some activity on those basement channels, and when people started going there, it caused some friction. Thus, the fears and rumors about the COLONEL, who for some reason was bent on getting anyone who operated on -20 (20 below 1). Midwest. Under the supervision of one of my older CB friends, who got me started in CB, we got clever and found that by switching the transmit and receive crystals in our walkie talkies, we got a quiet and more private channel. Only problem was, according to his freq counter, we were 20 below 1. Again, nothing for certain, but it was all the talk of our area back then...and YES, I did hear activity on that frequency. -Stephen |
On 29 Oct 2004 07:25:32 -0700, (Stephen)
wrote: No, I meant THE COLONEL, as being seperate from Uncle Charlie. From what I heard back in those days, THE COLONEL operated some activity on those basement channels, and when people started going there, it caused some friction. Thus, the fears and rumors about the COLONEL, who for some reason was bent on getting anyone who operated on -20 (20 below 1). Midwest. Under the supervision of one of my older CB friends, who got me started in CB, we got clever and found that by switching the transmit and receive crystals in our walkie talkies, we got a quiet and more private channel. Only problem was, according to his freq counter, we were 20 below 1. Again, nothing for certain, but it was all the talk of our area back then...and YES, I did hear activity on that frequency. I'll bet it was channel 10 crystals that you swapped right? When you reverse channel 10 walkie talkie crystals, you end up transmitting on 26.620 Mhz, which used to be very active with the civil air patrol. "The Colonel" was probably a bona-fide military official or member of the Civil Air Patrol........ Dave "Sandbagger" http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj |
"The Colonel" was probably a bona-fide
military official or member of the Civil Air Patrol....... It is easy to create fear in keyclowns infantile minds hardeeharrhar |
Oh I don't doubt you heard activity on that "channel". But I've never heard
of "the colonel" and I've been in and out of CB since 75!! It might have been a local trying to mess with people. You said you "heard him". What did he say? Did he threaten people? Correct people? Or did he act like an ass like some of the "half-baked-hams" we have on this ng that I have to re-killfile every 15 minutes? What message was this "colonel" giving? Don "Stephen" wrote in message om... No, I meant THE COLONEL, as being seperate from Uncle Charlie. From what I heard back in those days, THE COLONEL operated some activity on those basement channels, and when people started going there, it caused some friction. Thus, the fears and rumors about the COLONEL, who for some reason was bent on getting anyone who operated on -20 (20 below 1). Midwest. Under the supervision of one of my older CB friends, who got me started in CB, we got clever and found that by switching the transmit and receive crystals in our walkie talkies, we got a quiet and more private channel. Only problem was, according to his freq counter, we were 20 below 1. Again, nothing for certain, but it was all the talk of our area back then...and YES, I did hear activity on that frequency. -Stephen |
How about some up-to-date fears? ;)
** ENFORCEMENT: CB AMP SALE BRINGS $7000 FINE A North Jackson, Ohio equipment retailer has been dinged with a heavy fine. This for allegedly selling those illegal 11 meter amplifiers that the C-B crowd calls footwarmers. The noted violations involve Paladen Communications sale of external Citizens Band radio frequency power amplifiers. In it's October 21st Forfeiture Order the FCC alleges that Paladen, which does business as the CB Shop, did willfully and repeatedly violate Section 302(b) of the Communications Act of 1934 and Sections 2.815(b) and 2.815(c) of the Commission's Rules by making these units available to the general public. Paladen was issued the $7,000 fine back on May 27th. The FCC says the company never responded to the notice. Its now been given 30 days to pay or face collection proceedings. (FCC) ** ENFORCEMENT: CB OPERATOR FINED $10,000 FOR UNLICENSED OPERATION And using an illegal C-B amplifier will cost a Washington state operator some really big bucks. This as the FCC fines Robert A. Spiry of Tacoma 10,000 for what the FCC say was operating a radio station without Commission authorization. Amateur Radio Newsline's Norm Seeley, KI7UP, has the details: -- In its letter to Robert A. Spiry, the FCC claims that it found the amplifier as part of a follow-up investigation. This, after receiving numerous complaints from Spiry's neighbors. On March 13th, April 2nd, October 29th and November 5th of 2002, agents from the Commission's Seattle, Washington Field Office concluded that the interference resulted from 11 meter transmissions originating from Spiry's residence and from his mobile station in his vehicle. During station inspections conducted on April 2nd and November 5th, 2002, the Seattle Office agents determined that Spiry was operating transmitters that were not FCC certified and that he was operating with a linear amplifier attached to his CB radio transmitter. Spiry was advised that his use of unauthorized and non- certified equipment voided his blanket authority to operate his CB station. Nevertheless, the FCC says that he continued to operate the unauthorized equipment at the expense of his blanket authorization to operate his CB radio station. On December 30th, 2002, the Seattle Office issued a Notice of Apparent Liability for Monetary Forfeiture in the amount of $10,000 to Spiry. In other words, a $10,000 fine. In his January 15, 2003 response Spiry did not dispute the facts that lead to the fine. Instead he stated that he had ceased CB radio transmissions and had obtained an amateur radio license. The FCC database lists him as holding a Technician class license with the call sign KD7TRB. He also claimed to have removed his CB radio antenna and asserted that he was unaware that the amount of the forfeiture could be so high. He told the FCC that he was unable to pay that amount. But in affirming the fine the FCC refers Spiry to Section 301 of the Communications Act. It says that no person shall use or operate any apparatus for the transmission of energy or communications or signals by radio within the United States without a proper license. The FCC says that Spiry's 2002 operation of his CB radio station with transmitters that were not FCC certified and use of a linear amplifier constitutes repeated violations. It also notes that his taking down the C-B antenna and getting a ham radio ticket are not sufficient actions to negate the punishment for the original offenses. The FCC says that Robert Spiry has not provided it with adequate financial information from which to determine his ability to pay the forfeiture. Based on this lack of information cancellation or reduction of the $10,000 fine is not warranted and that it stands as is. For the Amateur Radio Newsline, Norm Seeley, KI7UP, Scottsdale, Arizona. -- Spiry was given the usual 30 days to pay. If he fails to do so the FCC says that the matter may be turned over to the Department of Justice for further action. (FCC) (Reckon he got his license hoping to avoid prosecution?) NOT!!! J |
Isn't that special..Oxendine and Adair post the same article within minutes
of each other. Hey Jerry, taks Dougs dick out of your ass, loser. "Jerry" wrote: How about some up-to-date fears? ;) ** ENFORCEMENT: CB AMP SALE BRINGS $7000 FINE A North Jackson, Ohio equipment retailer has been dinged with a heavy fine. This for allegedly selling those illegal 11 meter amplifiers that the C-B crowd calls footwarmers. The noted violations involve Paladen Communications sale of external Citizens Band radio frequency power amplifiers. In it's October 21st Forfeiture Order the FCC alleges that Paladen, which does business as the CB Shop, did willfully and repeatedly violate Section 302(b) of the Communications Act of 1934 and Sections 2.815(b) and 2.815(c) of the Commission's Rules by making these units available to the general public. Paladen was issued the $7,000 fine back on May 27th. The FCC says the company never responded to the notice. Its now been given 30 days to pay or face collection proceedings. (FCC) ** ENFORCEMENT: CB OPERATOR FINED $10,000 FOR UNLICENSED OPERATION And using an illegal C-B amplifier will cost a Washington state operator some really big bucks. This as the FCC fines Robert A. Spiry of Tacoma 10,000 for what the FCC say was operating a radio station without Commission authorization. Amateur Radio Newsline's Norm Seeley, KI7UP, has the details: -- In its letter to Robert A. Spiry, the FCC claims that it found the amplifier as part of a follow-up investigation. This, after receiving numerous complaints from Spiry's neighbors. On March 13th, April 2nd, October 29th and November 5th of 2002, agents from the Commission's Seattle, Washington Field Office concluded that the interference resulted from 11 meter transmissions originating from Spiry's residence and from his mobile station in his vehicle. During station inspections conducted on April 2nd and November 5th, 2002, the Seattle Office agents determined that Spiry was operating transmitters that were not FCC certified and that he was operating with a linear amplifier attached to his CB radio transmitter. Spiry was advised that his use of unauthorized and non- certified equipment voided his blanket authority to operate his CB station. Nevertheless, the FCC says that he continued to operate the unauthorized equipment at the expense of his blanket authorization to operate his CB radio station. On December 30th, 2002, the Seattle Office issued a Notice of Apparent Liability for Monetary Forfeiture in the amount of $10,000 to Spiry. In other words, a $10,000 fine. In his January 15, 2003 response Spiry did not dispute the facts that lead to the fine. Instead he stated that he had ceased CB radio transmissions and had obtained an amateur radio license. The FCC database lists him as holding a Technician class license with the call sign KD7TRB. He also claimed to have removed his CB radio antenna and asserted that he was unaware that the amount of the forfeiture could be so high. He told the FCC that he was unable to pay that amount. But in affirming the fine the FCC refers Spiry to Section 301 of the Communications Act. It says that no person shall use or operate any apparatus for the transmission of energy or communications or signals by radio within the United States without a proper license. The FCC says that Spiry's 2002 operation of his CB radio station with transmitters that were not FCC certified and use of a linear amplifier constitutes repeated violations. It also notes that his taking down the C-B antenna and getting a ham radio ticket are not sufficient actions to negate the punishment for the original offenses. The FCC says that Robert Spiry has not provided it with adequate financial information from which to determine his ability to pay the forfeiture. Based on this lack of information cancellation or reduction of the $10,000 fine is not warranted and that it stands as is. For the Amateur Radio Newsline, Norm Seeley, KI7UP, Scottsdale, Arizona. -- Spiry was given the usual 30 days to pay. If he fails to do so the FCC says that the matter may be turned over to the Department of Justice for further action. (FCC) (Reckon he got his license hoping to avoid prosecution?) NOT!!! J |
Hi Don! Thanks for the reply. The "Colonel" used a varierty of
responses when we transmitted down there. Usually, he wanted to know where we were, and used a tone of voice (very authoritive) that we were not supposed to be operating on that frequency. We were in our early teens, so we were worried. True, he could have been anyone, with any agenda. Besides the local gossip and chatter about the "Colonel", I did speak to a local HAM down the street who said that this Colonel was some sort of gov official, perhaps with the FCC, but as I soon found out, Hams didn't like us CB-ers much, and of course scolded us when we said what frequency we operated on. As for the other reply, asking if we switched channel 10 crystals in our walkie talkies to get -20, no...it was channel 11. Other brand walkie talkies didn't give the same results as ours. We found that out, and I know why that is. Anyway, thanks everyone for the replies. The Colonel phenomenon was fascinating, and just one of those early CB experiences that I've always wondered about. -Stephen |
"Jerry" wrote in message t...
How about some up-to-date fears? ;) ** ENFORCEMENT: CB AMP SALE BRINGS $7000 FINE A North Jackson, Ohio equipment retailer has been dinged with a heavy fine. This for allegedly selling those illegal 11 meter amplifiers that the C-B crowd calls footwarmers. The noted violations involve Paladen Communications sale of external Citizens Band radio frequency power amplifiers. In it's October 21st Forfeiture Order the FCC alleges that Paladen, which does business as the CB Shop, did willfully and repeatedly violate Section 302(b) of the Communications Act of 1934 and Sections 2.815(b) and 2.815(c) of the Commission's Rules by making these units available to the general public. Paladen was issued the $7,000 fine back on May 27th. The FCC says the company never responded to the notice. Its now been given 30 days to pay or face collection proceedings. (FCC) ** ENFORCEMENT: CB OPERATOR FINED $10,000 FOR UNLICENSED OPERATION And using an illegal C-B amplifier will cost a Washington state operator some really big bucks. This as the FCC fines Robert A. Spiry of Tacoma 10,000 for what the FCC say was operating a radio station without Commission authorization. Amateur Radio Newsline's Norm Seeley, KI7UP, has the details: -- In its letter to Robert A. Spiry, the FCC claims that it found the amplifier as part of a follow-up investigation. This, after receiving numerous complaints from Spiry's neighbors. On March 13th, April 2nd, October 29th and November 5th of 2002, agents from the Commission's Seattle, Washington Field Office concluded that the interference resulted from 11 meter transmissions originating from Spiry's residence and from his mobile station in his vehicle. During station inspections conducted on April 2nd and November 5th, 2002, the Seattle Office agents determined that Spiry was operating transmitters that were not FCC certified and that he was operating with a linear amplifier attached to his CB radio transmitter. Spiry was advised that his use of unauthorized and non- certified equipment voided his blanket authority to operate his CB station. Nevertheless, the FCC says that he continued to operate the unauthorized equipment at the expense of his blanket authorization to operate his CB radio station. On December 30th, 2002, the Seattle Office issued a Notice of Apparent Liability for Monetary Forfeiture in the amount of $10,000 to Spiry. In other words, a $10,000 fine. In his January 15, 2003 response Spiry did not dispute the facts that lead to the fine. Instead he stated that he had ceased CB radio transmissions and had obtained an amateur radio license. The FCC database lists him as holding a Technician class license with the call sign KD7TRB. He also claimed to have removed his CB radio antenna and asserted that he was unaware that the amount of the forfeiture could be so high. He told the FCC that he was unable to pay that amount. But in affirming the fine the FCC refers Spiry to Section 301 of the Communications Act. It says that no person shall use or operate any apparatus for the transmission of energy or communications or signals by radio within the United States without a proper license. The FCC says that Spiry's 2002 operation of his CB radio station with transmitters that were not FCC certified and use of a linear amplifier constitutes repeated violations. It also notes that his taking down the C-B antenna and getting a ham radio ticket are not sufficient actions to negate the punishment for the original offenses. The FCC says that Robert Spiry has not provided it with adequate financial information from which to determine his ability to pay the forfeiture. Based on this lack of information cancellation or reduction of the $10,000 fine is not warranted and that it stands as is. For the Amateur Radio Newsline, Norm Seeley, KI7UP, Scottsdale, Arizona. -- Spiry was given the usual 30 days to pay. If he fails to do so the FCC says that the matter may be turned over to the Department of Justice for further action. (FCC) (Reckon he got his license hoping to avoid prosecution?) NOT!!! J After they caught him keyclowning he got a ham license because he thought it gave him immunity. It sounds like he was a follower of Atty. Twistys legal advice ROTFLMAO |
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