"Twistedhed" wrote in message
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From: pam
(itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
(Twistedhed) wrote in news:27747-41B49239-184
@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net:
They don't.,,but bone legal hammie rigs, do. Your lack of communication
skill has you selectively taking a post from years ago and
misinterpreting it as having some type relation to his posts of today
or what radio he runs today.

He said what he said who care how long ago it
was


Only you.


i said I wasnt George 5 years ago you still

slobber about it daily,

Ummm, George Busch WA3MOJ could stop using
a radio, give up his Ham license, stop doing a lot
of things, but he still has the same name. Unless he
wants to go through the hassle of changing it legally.

I do no such thing. You are so entwined and controlled, you mass delude
yourself into believing the entire contingency picks on you.
Get a
self-image and fix that damged psyche and bruised ego.


you still provide posts that I made years ago

who knows who I am today,


George Busch WA3MOJ, angry person with most of
the people on Rec.Radio.CB, but he'll try to say it's everyone
else that's angry at him......... LOL!!!!

So remeber whatever I said in the past has

no bearing on what I say today, alkl because

Twistys says So.

LOL,,,,,your dainty little hands are shaking.
What Twists says, is the radio one used years ago has
no relation to the
one he uses today. Regardless who says it, you will not
comprehend it,
as you are preoccupied with the garment that houses my
nads. Again,,,get
help, it's out there.

Just as long as Geo can go about his trollish ways on
Rec.Radio.CB

Landshark


--
Is it so frightening to have me at your shoulder?
Thunder and lightning couldn't be bolder.
I'll write on your tombstone, ``I thank you for dinner.''
This game that we animals play is a winner.

"Landshark" wrote in message
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"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
From: pam
(itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
(Twistedhed) wrote in news:27747-41B49239-184
@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net:
They don't.,,but bone legal hammie rigs, do. Your lack of communication
skill has you selectively taking a post from years ago and
misinterpreting it as having some type relation to his posts of today
or what radio he runs today.

He said what he said who care how long ago it
was


Only you.


i said I wasnt George 5 years ago you still

slobber about it daily,

Ummm, George Busch WA3MOJ could stop using
a radio, give up his Ham license, stop doing a lot
of things, but he still has the same name. Unless he
wants to go through the hassle of changing it legally.

I do no such thing. You are so entwined and controlled, you mass delude
yourself into believing the entire contingency picks on you.
Get a
self-image and fix that damged psyche and bruised ego.


you still provide posts that I made years ago

who knows who I am today,


George Busch WA3MOJ, angry person with most of
the people on Rec.Radio.CB, but he'll try to say it's everyone
else that's angry at him......... LOL!!!!

So remeber whatever I said in the past has

no bearing on what I say today, alkl because

Twistys says So.

LOL,,,,,your dainty little hands are shaking.
What Twists says, is the radio one used years ago has
no relation to the
one he uses today. Regardless who says it, you will not
comprehend it,
as you are preoccupied with the garment that houses my
nads. Again,,,get
help, it's out there.

Just as long as Geo can go about his trollish ways on
Rec.Radio.CB

Landshark


And if GEO was not WA3MOJ, the "real" owner of the call would have told us
my now. I suggest stepping up the harassment of the call to bring it to a
head. Either he is, and can't do squat about it, or he is not, and the real
owner should know that GEO took ownership of it long ago, and played into
having an innocent ham harassed.

"U Know Who" wrote:
And if GEO was not WA3MOJ, the "real" owner of the call would have told
us my now. I suggest stepping up the harassment of the call to bring it
to a head. Either he is, and can't do squat about it, or he is not, and
the real owner should know that GEO took ownership of it long ago, and
played into having an innocent ham harassed.

And Geo shouldn't mind since harASSment is his only motivation for posting
to this group.

On 08 Dec 2004 11:35:41 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

"U Know Who" wrote:
And if GEO was not WA3MOJ, the "real" owner of the call would have told
us my now. I suggest stepping up the harassment of the call to bring it
to a head. Either he is, and can't do squat about it, or he is not, and
the real owner should know that GEO took ownership of it long ago, and
played into having an innocent ham harassed.

And Geo shouldn't mind since harASSment is his only motivation for posting
to this group.

Oh and wanting to suck up to icecold

"U Know Who" wrote in
message ...

"Landshark" wrote in message
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"Twistedhed" wrote in message
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From: pam
(itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
(Twistedhed) wrote in news:27747-41B49239-184
@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net:
They don't.,,but bone legal hammie rigs, do. Your lack of communication
skill has you selectively taking a post from years ago and
misinterpreting it as having some type relation to his posts of today
or what radio he runs today.

He said what he said who care how long ago it
was


Only you.


i said I wasnt George 5 years ago you still

slobber about it daily,

Ummm, George Busch WA3MOJ could stop using
a radio, give up his Ham license, stop doing a lot
of things, but he still has the same name. Unless he
wants to go through the hassle of changing it legally.

I do no such thing. You are so entwined and controlled, you mass
delude
yourself into believing the entire contingency picks on you.
Get a
self-image and fix that damged psyche and bruised ego.


you still provide posts that I made years ago

who knows who I am today,


George Busch WA3MOJ, angry person with most of
the people on Rec.Radio.CB, but he'll try to say it's everyone
else that's angry at him......... LOL!!!!

So remeber whatever I said in the past has

no bearing on what I say today, alkl because

Twistys says So.

LOL,,,,,your dainty little hands are shaking.
What Twists says, is the radio one used years ago has
no relation to the
one he uses today. Regardless who says it, you will not
comprehend it,
as you are preoccupied with the garment that houses my
nads. Again,,,get
help, it's out there.

Just as long as Geo can go about his trollish ways on
Rec.Radio.CB

Landshark


And if GEO was not WA3MOJ, the "real" owner of the call would have told us
my now. I suggest stepping up the harassment of the call to bring it to a
head. Either he is, and can't do squat about it, or he is not, and the
real owner should know that GEO took ownership of it long ago, and played
into having an innocent ham harassed.

Dude if he didn't have to use a self addressed envelope,
you know damn well George would have informed himself.

Landshark


--
Is it so frightening to have me at your shoulder?
Thunder and lightning couldn't be bolder.
I'll write on your tombstone, ``I thank you for dinner.''
This game that we animals play is a winner.

It's all pretty clear cut Lanshark. You don't pay the NAL and challenge it
in district court, or pay it, then go the appeal court route. If you read
the whole quoted section that's what the court says, in legal speak, near
the end.

Anyway the original point made by several people was you can't challenge a
NAL in court. I think that myth has been dispelled. You raised another
issue, is it really worth the cost? You might have a point there. I guess it
all depends on the about of the NAL. a couple of grand maybe not, but for
$10K yeah I think it would if one feels confident they have a strong case.

On a side point who were you replying to in regards to a post about a radio
and refering to them using my name? I never mentioned anything about a
radio, just a comment about you getting a NAL for first hand experience. I
think you got me confused with somebody else.


--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Wireless Network
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"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
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It's all pretty clear cut Lanshark. You don't pay the NAL and challenge it
in district court, or pay it, then go the appeal court route. If you read
the whole quoted section that's what the court says, in legal speak, near
the end.

Have you ever gotten a NAL? Have you sent back the
paperwork to the FCC that goes with the NAL?
If the answer is no, then you don't know. If it's yes
then you know that you have to give them, Full name,
Social Security #, employment info, assets info etc etc.
As I have said in previous posts, I know two people
that got them, both were found guilty, though they filed
motions with the commission saying they weren't. They
then were told that if they didn't pay, their wages would
be garnished, liens on their houses. They were told by
the FCC & a lawyer (They both had different lawyers)
that was the only way or sue them in Federal court.
Say what you want, but you can't just say "I don't
agree, I want a trial" They start collecting the fine right
away when the commission says you are guilty.

Anyway the original point made by several people was you can't challenge a
NAL in court. I think that myth has been dispelled. You raised another
issue, is it really worth the cost? You might have a point there. I guess
it
all depends on the about of the NAL. a couple of grand maybe not, but for
$10K yeah I think it would if one feels confident they have a strong case.

Same point, spend $9,000.00 on a lawyer, for a $10,000.00
fine? One of the persons I know was fined $30,000.00
plus for his NAL, his lawyer told him to pay the fine or make
arrangements for payments, he would be spending close to that to sue the
government to reduce fines. You saw above what they did to him.


On a side point who were you replying to in regards to a post about a
radio
and refering to them using my name? I never mentioned anything about a
radio, just a comment about you getting a NAL for first hand experience. I
think you got me confused with somebody else.

Not really, I may have read into this more than what you meant:
"All I can figure out is you want to believe this so you can justifiy FCC
regulation violations in your own mind, feel better about it, and excuse
others for being held accountable."

But the way accusations fly in here, I figured you were saying
I would feel better about operating a linear or export radio.


--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO


Landshark


--
Is it so frightening to have me at your shoulder?
Thunder and lightning couldn't be bolder.
I'll write on your tombstone, ``I thank you for dinner.''
This game that we animals play is a winner.

"Landshark" wrote:
Have you ever gotten a NAL?

I know two people
that got them, both were found guilty,

One of the persons I know was fined $30,000.00
plus for his NAL,


Mark lets stop for a minute and discuss why you know so many people who
have gotten NALs do yyou hang with a group of RF outlaws and if so why
does that appeal to you

From:
"Landshark" wrote:
Have you ever gotten a NAL?
=A0=A0I know two people
that got them, both were found guilty,
One of the persons I know was fined $30,000.00 plus for his NAL,

Mark lets stop for a minute and discuss why

you know so many people who have gotten

NALs

snip

Hahaha,,,you ain't the moderator despite your pleas for status and the
power to actually have some type control over this group. You do not
have permission to change this topic to one that seeks an answer to your
unhealthy curiosities
about other folk's personal lives...hehe,,deal with it and get the hell
over yourself, genius. Go buy a law book, felon.

"Landshark" wrote in message
om...

"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
...
It's all pretty clear cut Lanshark. You don't pay the NAL and challenge
it
in district court, or pay it, then go the appeal court route. If you
read
the whole quoted section that's what the court says, in legal speak,
near
the end.

Have you ever gotten a NAL?

NO.

Have you sent back the
paperwork to the FCC that goes with the NAL?
If the answer is no, then you don't know. If it's yes
then you know that you have to give them, Full name,
Social Security #, employment info, assets info etc etc.
As I have said in previous posts, I know two people
that got them, both were found guilty, though they filed
motions with the commission saying they weren't. They
then were told that if they didn't pay, their wages would
be garnished, liens on their houses. They were told by
the FCC & a lawyer (They both had different lawyers)
that was the only way or sue them in Federal court.

So they had crummy attorneys. Doesn't change the facts of the opinion
written by the appeals court in the AT&T case. If you go back and read that
section again you'll see that the FCC was mistaken about how things work.
The FCC had issues with the points raised by the AT&T NAL yet the court
agreed with AT&T. It seems to me that your buddy's attorney likely brought
the "party line" from the FCC. It wouldn't be the first time that a lawyer
missed rulings in case law that would have materially helped their client.
Happens more often that you think.

Say what you want, but you can't just say "I don't
agree, I want a trial" They start collecting the fine right
away when the commission says you are guilty.

As you say "try", until they have to go to court. Then it's a new ball game.


Anyway the original point made by several people was you can't challenge
a
NAL in court. I think that myth has been dispelled. You raised another
issue, is it really worth the cost? You might have a point there. I
guess
it
all depends on the about of the NAL. a couple of grand maybe not, but
for
$10K yeah I think it would if one feels confident they have a strong
case.

Same point, spend $9,000.00 on a lawyer, for a $10,000.00
fine? One of the persons I know was fined $30,000.00
plus for his NAL, his lawyer told him to pay the fine or make
arrangements for payments, he would be spending close to that to sue the
government to reduce fines. You saw above what they did to him.

The expense of going to court is a wholly different issue. I'll agree with
you that it could be an expensive option. And at times it doesn't make sense
to pursue the legal course of action.



On a side point who were you replying to in regards to a post about a
radio
and refering to them using my name? I never mentioned anything about a
radio, just a comment about you getting a NAL for first hand experience.
I
think you got me confused with somebody else.

Not really, I may have read into this more than what you meant:
"All I can figure out is you want to believe this so you can justifiy FCC
regulation violations in your own mind, feel better about it, and excuse
others for being held accountable."

But the way accusations fly in here, I figured you were saying
I would feel better about operating a linear or export radio.

No. 8-)) My point was you could pay a lawyer to get the same information
here for a whole lot less.

By the way what did that guy do to get a $30K NAL anyway? Must have really
ticked somebody off big time. The normal forfeitures are around $7500 for
the kinds of illegal crap people do that gets mentioned here in the group.
--
Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Wireless Network
Mobile computing
on the go brought
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