K7ME

They may have changed the tests since I took mine, but the VE stations have
a lot of leway in creating their tests. The only way to know for sure is to
ask. Each time I went it only cost $6.45 and I could take as many test as
I wanted, each time. So I did. I took the Tech, General, and 13 WPM in one
sitting and the Advanced, Extra, and the 20 WPM in another.


Where does that $6.45 go? Is there accountability?

On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 17:50:12 -0500, jim wrote:

K7ME

They may have changed the tests since I took mine, but the VE stations have
a lot of leway in creating their tests. The only way to know for sure is to
ask. Each time I went it only cost $6.45 and I could take as many test as
I wanted, each time. So I did. I took the Tech, General, and 13 WPM in one
sitting and the Advanced, Extra, and the 20 WPM in another.


Where does that $6.45 go? Is there accountability?


$14.00 now.

Vinnie S.

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 17:50:12 -0500, jim wrote:

K7ME

They may have changed the tests since I took mine, but the VE stations
have
a lot of leway in creating their tests. The only way to know for sure is
to
ask. Each time I went it only cost $6.45 and I could take as many test
as
I wanted, each time. So I did. I took the Tech, General, and 13 WPM in
one
sitting and the Advanced, Extra, and the 20 WPM in another.


Where does that $6.45 go? Is there accountability?


$14.00 now.

Vinnie S.

Yes, there is accountability. You must register each and every examinee. The
VEs get to keep a percentage, the rest goes to the VEC. The VECs and FCC
know exactly how much you've collected. Put it this way, no fees, no
license. Even if the person fails, a portion of the money he/she paid for
that test is turned in just as though they'd passed.

BEFORE anyone jumps to conclusions, the amount the VEs keep is NOT enough to
compensate a 3 man team for even an hour. That doesn't count copies if
needed, phone calls out of pocket to examinees - confirming testing dates,
or follow up in case of a question after the fact. It doesn't count many
things in. A popular magazine editor ****ed me off once by "assuming" VEs
get rich off this. THEY DON'T. Become one, you'll see. If you traveled say
10 miles to help your club give exams, at today's gas prices, there is no
way in hell that pittance left over could pay your gas and time. You have to
pay the postage to send in the exam package, need large envelopes, etc.
Supplies cost money unless you are lucky and get them for nothing. Our team
kept "any" money left over after all expenses - for future expenses. "IF" a
small kitty started accumulating, then coffee was bought to provide to the
examinees of future sessions, supplies were purchased for future dates.
Believe me, you will NOT get rich off of being a VE. The V stands for
"Volunteer", which is what you have to love to do, to put in the time that
is required. If you have busy sessions, it is a handful.

The FCC does not allow you to make a "profit", but they do consider costs
involved......

cl

On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 22:34:16 -0500, "cl" wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 05 Mar 2005 17:50:12 -0500, jim wrote:

K7ME

They may have changed the tests since I took mine, but the VE stations
have
a lot of leway in creating their tests. The only way to know for sure is
to
ask. Each time I went it only cost $6.45 and I could take as many test
as
I wanted, each time. So I did. I took the Tech, General, and 13 WPM in
one
sitting and the Advanced, Extra, and the 20 WPM in another.


Where does that $6.45 go? Is there accountability?


$14.00 now.

Vinnie S.

Yes, there is accountability. You must register each and every examinee. The
VEs get to keep a percentage, the rest goes to the VEC. The VECs and FCC
know exactly how much you've collected. Put it this way, no fees, no
license. Even if the person fails, a portion of the money he/she paid for
that test is turned in just as though they'd passed.


There must be accountability. They asked me for 2 picture IDs

Vinnie S.

jim wrote:
K7ME


They may have changed the tests since I took mine, but the VE stations
have
a lot of leway in creating their tests. The only way to know for sure
is to
ask. Each time I went it only cost $6.45 and I could take as many test as
I wanted, each time. So I did. I took the Tech, General, and 13 WPM in
one
sitting and the Advanced, Extra, and the 20 WPM in another.


Where does that $6.45 go? Is there accountability?

In most cases, there is probably some accountability. The main reason for
the charge is to recover the cost of the materials used in administering
the tests. Prices vary from testing station to testing station depending
on what they need to provide the service. The VEs donate their time to
administer the tests and file the necessary paperwork, but do not have
to provide the funding.

--
Martin E. Meserve - K7MEM
http://www.k7mem.com
(remove _nospam_ from my email to reply)

K7MEM wrote:
jim wrote:

K7ME


They may have changed the tests since I took mine, but the VE
stations have
a lot of leway in creating their tests. The only way to know for sure
is to
ask. Each time I went it only cost $6.45 and I could take as many
test as
I wanted, each time. So I did. I took the Tech, General, and 13 WPM
in one
sitting and the Advanced, Extra, and the 20 WPM in another.


Where does that $6.45 go? Is there accountability?


In most cases, there is probably some accountability. The main reason for
the charge is to recover the cost of the materials used in administering
the tests. Prices vary from testing station to testing station depending
on what they need to provide the service. The VEs donate their time to
administer the tests and file the necessary paperwork, but do not have
to provide the funding.

Hmmmm. Without having to Google for the answer I figured to ask an
amateur for answers to the fee accounting. Price variances and
accounting probabilities makes for an ideal situation for greed.

jim wrote:
K7MEM wrote:

jim wrote:

K7ME


They may have changed the tests since I took mine, but the VE
stations have
a lot of leway in creating their tests. The only way to know for
sure is to
ask. Each time I went it only cost $6.45 and I could take as many
test as
I wanted, each time. So I did. I took the Tech, General, and 13 WPM
in one
sitting and the Advanced, Extra, and the 20 WPM in another.


Where does that $6.45 go? Is there accountability?



In most cases, there is probably some accountability. The main reason for
the charge is to recover the cost of the materials used in administering
the tests. Prices vary from testing station to testing station depending
on what they need to provide the service. The VEs donate their time to
administer the tests and file the necessary paperwork, but do not have
to provide the funding.

Hmmmm. Without having to Google for the answer I figured to ask an
amateur for answers to the fee accounting. Price variances and
accounting probabilities makes for an ideal situation for greed.

There is a VE, on another part of this thread, that explains it in more
detail. But, the returns from this kind of venture would be minimal.
I don't think anyone could make any real money trying to scam this
one. Even the FCC gave up on running the testing because they were
losing money and couldn't support the personnel required. Now they
still control the whole thing, but with minimum cost.

--
Martin E. Meserve - K7MEM
http://www.k7mem.com
(remove _nospam_ from my email to reply)

"K7MEM" wrote in message
...


jim wrote:
K7MEM wrote:

jim wrote:

K7ME


They may have changed the tests since I took mine, but the VE stations
have
a lot of leway in creating their tests. The only way to know for sure
is to
ask. Each time I went it only cost $6.45 and I could take as many test
as
I wanted, each time. So I did. I took the Tech, General, and 13 WPM in
one
sitting and the Advanced, Extra, and the 20 WPM in another.


Where does that $6.45 go? Is there accountability?



In most cases, there is probably some accountability. The main reason
for
the charge is to recover the cost of the materials used in administering
the tests. Prices vary from testing station to testing station depending
on what they need to provide the service. The VEs donate their time to
administer the tests and file the necessary paperwork, but do not have
to provide the funding.

Hmmmm. Without having to Google for the answer I figured to ask an
amateur for answers to the fee accounting. Price variances and accounting
probabilities makes for an ideal situation for greed.

There is a VE, on another part of this thread, that explains it in more
detail. But, the returns from this kind of venture would be minimal.
I don't think anyone could make any real money trying to scam this
one. Even the FCC gave up on running the testing because they were
losing money and couldn't support the personnel required. Now they
still control the whole thing, but with minimum cost.

--
Martin E. Meserve - K7MEM
http://www.k7mem.com
(remove _nospam_ from my email to reply)

I don't know where they get greed from. A good part of the time, there isn't
much left over worth fighting for. As I said, if the VEs traveled any
distance, the little bit left over wouldn't be worth a crap as far as
reimbursement for gas..... Not at today's prices especially.

IF you're going into testing for "profit" which is not allowed, may the Lord
bless you, because you'll need it. BELIEVE ME - KEEP YOUR DAY JOB.........
Getting "big" bucks from VE Exams????? Give me a break........... IF they
are - to the point of fighting over it, then something sounds wrong.

cl

cl wrote:
"K7MEM" wrote in message
...


jim wrote:

K7MEM wrote:


jim wrote:


K7ME


They may have changed the tests since I took mine, but the VE stations
have
a lot of leway in creating their tests. The only way to know for sure
is to
ask. Each time I went it only cost $6.45 and I could take as many test
as
I wanted, each time. So I did. I took the Tech, General, and 13 WPM in
one
sitting and the Advanced, Extra, and the 20 WPM in another.


Where does that $6.45 go? Is there accountability?



In most cases, there is probably some accountability. The main reason
for
the charge is to recover the cost of the materials used in administering
the tests. Prices vary from testing station to testing station depending
on what they need to provide the service. The VEs donate their time to
administer the tests and file the necessary paperwork, but do not have
to provide the funding.


Hmmmm. Without having to Google for the answer I figured to ask an
amateur for answers to the fee accounting. Price variances and accounting
probabilities makes for an ideal situation for greed.

There is a VE, on another part of this thread, that explains it in more
detail. But, the returns from this kind of venture would be minimal.
I don't think anyone could make any real money trying to scam this
one. Even the FCC gave up on running the testing because they were
losing money and couldn't support the personnel required. Now they
still control the whole thing, but with minimum cost.

--
Martin E. Meserve - K7MEM
http://www.k7mem.com
(remove _nospam_ from my email to reply)


I don't know where they get greed from. A good part of the time, there isn't
much left over worth fighting for. As I said, if the VEs traveled any
distance, the little bit left over wouldn't be worth a crap as far as
reimbursement for gas..... Not at today's prices especially.

IF you're going into testing for "profit" which is not allowed, may the Lord
bless you, because you'll need it. BELIEVE ME - KEEP YOUR DAY JOB.........
Getting "big" bucks from VE Exams????? Give me a break........... IF they
are - to the point of fighting over it, then something sounds wrong.

cl


My point cl is that there is an avenue for fraud as there seems to be
little oversight concerning the intake of funds from the interested
public. Do you have a link where one could read up on how the VE's
should conduct the business end of examinations?
As an aside what are your call letters?
73, Jim.

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