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Vinnie S. March 27th 05 03:22 AM

Imax-2000?
 
Anybody have one? I am going to stick it in a tree. There are tuning rings on
it. Anyone ever tune one of these? I am going at it alone when I install it. I
am going to use a climbing tree stand, and it will be impossible to tune it when
it is hung. If I tune it on the ground, will the SWR be drastically affected if
it is a couple feet off the ground, as opposed to when it is about 30 feet up?

Vinnie S.

Frank Gilliland March 27th 05 03:53 AM

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:22:09 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote in :

Anybody have one? I am going to stick it in a tree. There are tuning rings on
it. Anyone ever tune one of these? I am going at it alone when I install it. I
am going to use a climbing tree stand, and it will be impossible to tune it when
it is hung. If I tune it on the ground, will the SWR be drastically affected if
it is a couple feet off the ground, as opposed to when it is about 30 feet up?



Can't say specifically for the 2000. For a 1/2-wave vertical dipole,
the input impedance is highest (around 100 ohms) when the feedpoint is
1/4-wave above the ground (as low as it can go without digging a
hole). It is lowest (about 70 ohms) when the feedpoint is 1/2-wave
above ground. As you get higher the input impedance levels off to
slightly above the average impedance of a horizontal dipole (the
latter being about 73 ohms). Turning the antenna horizontally won't
work because it will then behave like a horizontal dipole, the input
impedance dropping towards zero as you get closer to the ground.

IOW, if you tune it on the ground, the SWR -will- change after you get
it up the tree -- and that's disregarding any effect the tree will
have on it's impedance.







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Landshark March 27th 05 08:20 PM


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
Anybody have one? I am going to stick it in a tree. There are tuning rings
on
it. Anyone ever tune one of these? I am going at it alone when I install
it. I
am going to use a climbing tree stand, and it will be impossible to tune
it when
it is hung. If I tune it on the ground, will the SWR be drastically
affected if
it is a couple feet off the ground, as opposed to when it is about 30 feet
up?

Vinnie S.


I run an Army BigStick in a 110' Redwood. We sorta tuned
it on the mast with the coax stretched all the way out. Now it was a good
match when it was down, it went up just a little
when all the way up, nut not enough to worry about. I also
ran a separate ground wire down from the mounting brackets.

Landshark


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Vinnie S. March 27th 05 10:11 PM

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:20:33 GMT, "Landshark" wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
Anybody have one? I am going to stick it in a tree. There are tuning rings
on
it. Anyone ever tune one of these? I am going at it alone when I install
it. I
am going to use a climbing tree stand, and it will be impossible to tune
it when
it is hung. If I tune it on the ground, will the SWR be drastically
affected if
it is a couple feet off the ground, as opposed to when it is about 30 feet
up?

Vinnie S.


I run an Army BigStick in a 110' Redwood. We sorta tuned
it on the mast with the coax stretched all the way out. Now it was a good
match when it was down, it went up just a little
when all the way up, nut not enough to worry about. I also
ran a separate ground wire down from the mounting brackets.



Good enough. How high is it? Is it all the way up?

Vinnie S.

Landshark March 28th 05 04:12 AM


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 19:20:33 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
. ..
Anybody have one? I am going to stick it in a tree. There are tuning
rings
on
it. Anyone ever tune one of these? I am going at it alone when I install
it. I
am going to use a climbing tree stand, and it will be impossible to tune
it when
it is hung. If I tune it on the ground, will the SWR be drastically
affected if
it is a couple feet off the ground, as opposed to when it is about 30
feet
up?

Vinnie S.


I run an Army BigStick in a 110' Redwood. We sorta tuned
it on the mast with the coax stretched all the way out. Now it was a good
match when it was down, it went up just a little
when all the way up, nut not enough to worry about. I also
ran a separate ground wire down from the mounting brackets.



Good enough. How high is it? Is it all the way up?

Vinnie S.


Tree is 110', antenna on a 10' mast, about 5' above the top.

Landshark


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and are flawed, but win out in the end
because they've stayed true to their
ideals and beliefs and commitments.



George Kinzer March 28th 05 09:57 AM

to bad, the ENTIRE antenna should be out the tree...
I am not saying this to be funny, but you are not getting out
anyway near what you would if it was.



Vinnie S. March 28th 05 03:03 PM

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:12:03 GMT, "Landshark" wrote:



Tree is 110', antenna on a 10' mast, about 5' above the top.



How did you get it up that high? Did you pay someone?

Vinnie S.

Landshark March 28th 05 03:15 PM


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:12:03 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:



Tree is 110', antenna on a 10' mast, about 5' above the top.



How did you get it up that high? Did you pay someone?

Vinnie S.


A good friend that's very skilled at climbing trees (Yes,
I gave him so cash for that great task).

Landshark


--
Hard things are put in our way,
not to stop us, but to call out our
courage and strength.



Landshark March 28th 05 03:15 PM


"George Kinzer" wrote in message
...
to bad, the ENTIRE antenna should be out the tree...
I am not saying this to be funny, but you are not getting out
anyway near what you would if it was.


Umh, maybe I wasn't to clear, sorry. The mast is approx
5' give or take above the top, So most of the antenna
is well above the tree and works just fine with an
SWR of 1:3:1

Landshark


--
Treat people as if they were what
they ought to be and you will help
them become what they are capable
of becoming.



U Know Who March 29th 05 03:39 AM


"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge"
wrote in message ...
"Landshark" wrote in news:0kU1e.2430$FN4.273
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"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:12:03 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:



Tree is 110', antenna on a 10' mast, about 5' above the top.


How did you get it up that high? Did you pay someone?

Vinnie S.


No he had him dress in transexual garb as he climbed the long pole.


Childish newsgroup assclown.



Vinnie S. March 29th 05 04:17 AM

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 02:39:08 GMT, "U Know Who" wrote:


"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge"
wrote in message ...
"Landshark" wrote in news:0kU1e.2430$FN4.273
@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:12:03 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:



Tree is 110', antenna on a 10' mast, about 5' above the top.


How did you get it up that high? Did you pay someone?

Vinnie S.


No he had him dress in transexual garb as he climbed the long pole.


Childish newsgroup assclown.


Well, at least we know what is first on his mind.

Vinnie S.

Landshark March 29th 05 05:14 AM


"U Know Who" wrote in message
...

"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge"
wrote in message ...
"Landshark" wrote in news:0kU1e.2430$FN4.273
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"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 03:12:03 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:



Tree is 110', antenna on a 10' mast, about 5' above the top.


How did you get it up that high? Did you pay someone?

Vinnie S.


No he had him dress in transexual garb as he climbed the long pole.


Childish newsgroup assclown.



LOL!! He's still obsessed with me, LMAO!!!
He's a dying part of this newsgroup, most everyone seems
to get along ok, except him & Doug...........pity..........

Landshark


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Thunder and lightning couldn't be bolder.
I'll write on your tombstone, ``I thank you for dinner.''
This game that we animals play is a winner.




Free Band March 29th 05 09:19 AM

hey landshark what kind of coax you use i wanna put a a99. in an a tree
also .also what about grounding system thanks.ssb 2238 alabama 73s


Landshark March 29th 05 03:26 PM


"Free Band" wrote in message
...
hey landshark what kind of coax you use i wanna put a a99. in an a tree
also .also what about grounding system thanks.ssb 2238 alabama 73s



I'm using RG213 with RG Mini 8 for a type of ground.
I took the center strand and attached it to the antenna, then
both the center strand and shield twisted together and attached
to a ground rod.

Landshark


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Odd Ball March 29th 05 03:58 PM

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:22:09 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote:

Anybody have one? I am going to stick it in a tree. There are tuning rings on
it. Anyone ever tune one of these? I am going at it alone when I install it. I
am going to use a climbing tree stand, and it will be impossible to tune it when
it is hung. If I tune it on the ground, will the SWR be drastically affected if
it is a couple feet off the ground, as opposed to when it is about 30 feet up?

Vinnie S.


Leave the tuning rings as they are. I put mine out the top of a
tree, and the antenna had a 1.1 SWR right out of th box.



Vinnie S. March 29th 05 04:16 PM

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:26:01 GMT, "Landshark" wrote:


"Free Band" wrote in message
...
hey landshark what kind of coax you use i wanna put a a99. in an a tree
also .also what about grounding system thanks.ssb 2238 alabama 73s



I'm using RG213 with RG Mini 8 for a type of ground.
I took the center strand and attached it to the antenna, then
both the center strand and shield twisted together and attached
to a ground rod.

Landshark



That is a great idea. I am going to run nearly 300 feet of Bury-Flex. For both
the Imax and the HF dipole.

Someone here told me to use bury-flex. It was a great idea. Who was it?

Vinnie S.

Vinnie S. March 29th 05 04:17 PM

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:58:19 GMT, (Odd Ball) wrote:

On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 21:22:09 -0500, Vinnie S.
wrote:

Anybody have one? I am going to stick it in a tree. There are tuning rings on
it. Anyone ever tune one of these? I am going at it alone when I install it. I
am going to use a climbing tree stand, and it will be impossible to tune it when
it is hung. If I tune it on the ground, will the SWR be drastically affected if
it is a couple feet off the ground, as opposed to when it is about 30 feet up?

Vinnie S.


Leave the tuning rings as they are. I put mine out the top of a
tree, and the antenna had a 1.1 SWR right out of th box.



A friend of mine is going to send me an Autek RF analyzer, so I can tune it
while in the tree.

Vinnie S.

Chad Wahls March 29th 05 06:06 PM


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 14:26:01 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Free Band" wrote in message
...
hey landshark what kind of coax you use i wanna put a a99. in an a tree
also .also what about grounding system thanks.ssb 2238 alabama 73s



I'm using RG213 with RG Mini 8 for a type of ground.
I took the center strand and attached it to the antenna, then
both the center strand and shield twisted together and attached
to a ground rod.

Landshark



That is a great idea. I am going to run nearly 300 feet of Bury-Flex. For
both
the Imax and the HF dipole.

Someone here told me to use bury-flex. It was a great idea. Who was it?

Vinnie S.


May have been me. I love mine and it's wife friendly as she can't see the
coax hanging around. It is pretty stiff stuff though, no heliax, but a good
idea to work with it when it's warm :)

Chad



Vinnie S. March 30th 05 03:24 PM

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:06:34 -0600, "Chad Wahls" wrote:



That is a great idea. I am going to run nearly 300 feet of Bury-Flex. For
both
the Imax and the HF dipole.

Someone here told me to use bury-flex. It was a great idea. Who was it?

Vinnie S.


May have been me. I love mine and it's wife friendly as she can't see the
coax hanging around. It is pretty stiff stuff though, no heliax, but a good
idea to work with it when it's warm :)

Chad



At 300 feet, I will lose about 25% power, but should gain significantly on
distance based on the bigger antenna and height.

Vinnie S.

Vinnie S. March 30th 05 04:45 PM

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:06:34 -0600, "Chad Wahls" wrote:


That is a great idea. I am going to run nearly 300 feet of Bury-Flex. For
both
the Imax and the HF dipole.

Someone here told me to use bury-flex. It was a great idea. Who was it?

Vinnie S.


May have been me. I love mine and it's wife friendly as she can't see the
coax hanging around. It is pretty stiff stuff though, no heliax, but a good
idea to work with it when it's warm :)

Chad



Just order 600 feet !!!

Vinnie S.


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