"John Smith" wrote:
No. NOT SHOCKING...
ECCONOMICLY BURDENING!!!--to the party sued...

Regards,
John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
| "John Smith" wrote:
| I am not positive here
|
| SHOCKING

Do ewe soo the mall when you fall down in the parking lot too, F U Bailey?

From: (John=A0Smith)
I am not positive here (and I am no

lawyer--but the man you stalk needs to take

your posts and pics to one), but you seem in

violation of the stalking laws--


Cite the single passage you misinterpret him violating as pertains to
stalking laws.

36 W. Gay St., Suite 311, Columbus, OH 43215
614-221-1255 PHONE | 888-622-9315 TOLL-FREE | 614-221-6357 FAX | www.actionohio.org
OHIO LAW
Menacing by Stalking

“No person by engaging in a pattern of conduct shall knowingly cause another to believe
that the offender will cause physical harm to the other person or cause mental distress to the
other person.”

“Pattern of conduct” is defined as “two or more actions or incidents closely related in time,
whether or not there has been a prior conviction based on any of those actions or incidents.
The law has been amended to expand the definition of “pattern of conduct” to include
cyberstalking (e.g. such as sending threatening messages, posting such messages on a
computer bulletin board, using a computer bulletin board or listserv to induce a third person
to engage in stalking conduct against the victim, or using the Global Positioning System to
track the whereabouts of the victim).

Actions or incidents that prevent, obstruct, or delay the performance by a public official,
firefighter, rescuer, emergency medical services person, or emergency facility person of any
authorized act within the public official’s, firefighter’s, rescuer’s emergency medical services
person’s, or emergency facility person’s official capacity may constitute a ‘pattern of
conduct.’”

“Physical harm” is defined as “any injury, illness, or other physiological impairment,
regardless of its gravity or duration.”

“Mental distress” is defined as “any mental illness or condition that involves some
temporary substantial incapacity or any mental illness or condition that would normally
require psychiatric treatment, psychological treatment, or other mental health services
whether or not any person requested or received psychiatric treatment, psychological
treatment, or other mental health services.”

The law prohibits stalking or harassing someone repeatedly through electronic means, such
as by e-mail, web chat room, or message board. Posting false information on the Internet to
cause another person to stalk an individual is also illegal.
(The Ohio Domestic Violence Benchbook – A Practical Guide to Competence for Judges & Magistrates,
Second
Edition, Family Violence Prevention Center, Ohio Office of Criminal Justice Services.)

I said "I am not a lawyer", at this point, if it were me, I'd be consulting
one....

John

"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (John Smith)
I am not positive here (and I am no

lawyer--but the man you stalk needs to take

your posts and pics to one), but you seem in

violation of the stalking laws--


Cite the single passage you misinterpret him violating as pertains to
stalking laws.

I think if he now sues your A$$ he will have

gobs of money to feed his kids with!!!

Regards,

John


No chance at all. Mopar was publicly invited by Dogie. -You- need to
talk to a lawyer and have him properly explain what constitutes
stalking, as you are misinformed. In the meantime, try not to think
about such things.

From: pam
(itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in news:9844-4276C807-
:
From: (John=A0Smith)
I am not positive here (and I am no
lawyer--but the man you stalk needs to take your posts and pics to one),
but you seem in violation of the stalking laws--
Cite the single passage you misinterpret him violating as pertains to
stalking laws.
I think if he now sues your A$$ he will have gobs of money to feed his
kids with!!!
Regards,
John
-
No chance at all. Mopar was publicly invited by Dogie. -You- need to
talk to a lawyer and have him properly explain what constitutes
stalking, as you are misinformed. In the meantime, try not to think
about such things.
-
You have no idea who made the invite,

The rest of your post assumes the above to be true. You have discounted
the possibility the identity of one who made such a physical threat was
found immediately after the post and logged with the isp's he utilized,
due to them being contacted and instructed future legal ramifications
may arise referring this specific user due his violation of the law.
But I'll play devil's advocate for you.


some one says they are george bush and to

come to the white house you have carte

blanche to go there?


Good point. I taught N3CVJ this a few posts ago when he said saying
something on usenet is the same as a guilty plea in a court of law.
Where were you then? : )

Dont be so ****ing stupid. just the same as I

AM NOW CHRIS BUSCH loL this assclown is

as clueless as you tipsy.. and thats bad


(shrug) Clueless is providing the FCC a false address. It's also a
crime.

From: (John=A0Smith)
I said "I am not a lawyer", at this point, if it

were me, I'd be consulting one....

John

In a nut shell,,,consider he initiated physical threats, is a felon,
indigent, not of sound mind (as per the courts), and designated (by the
FCC) repeater jammer, how many lawyers you think will represent this
individual in a civil case, pro bono? Otoh, one can not initiate any
court actions on their own behalf if they are not of sound mind. One is
appointed on their behalf to represent their best interests.

So, you think that harassing a man, such as being done here, would NOT be
found to be offensive to the general public???
You think the general public would support your abuse of this man???

Well, maybe so, or maybe you should rethink that....

Regards,
John
"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: pam
(itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in news:9844-4276C807-
:
From: (John Smith)
I am not positive here (and I am no
lawyer--but the man you stalk needs to take your posts and pics to one),
but you seem in violation of the stalking laws--
Cite the single passage you misinterpret him violating as pertains to
stalking laws.
I think if he now sues your A$$ he will have gobs of money to feed his
kids with!!!
Regards,
John
-
No chance at all. Mopar was publicly invited by Dogie. -You- need to
talk to a lawyer and have him properly explain what constitutes
stalking, as you are misinformed. In the meantime, try not to think
about such things.
-
You have no idea who made the invite,

The rest of your post assumes the above to be true. You have discounted
the possibility the identity of one who made such a physical threat was
found immediately after the post and logged with the isp's he utilized,
due to them being contacted and instructed future legal ramifications
may arise referring this specific user due his violation of the law.
But I'll play devil's advocate for you.


some one says they are george bush and to

come to the white house you have carte

blanche to go there?


Good point. I taught N3CVJ this a few posts ago when he said saying
something on usenet is the same as a guilty plea in a court of law.
Where were you then? : )

Dont be so ****ing stupid. just the same as I

AM NOW CHRIS BUSCH loL this assclown is

as clueless as you tipsy.. and thats bad


(shrug) Clueless is providing the FCC a false address. It's also a
crime.

From: (John=A0Smith)
I said "I am not a lawyer", at this point, if it

were me, I'd be consulting one....

John

In a nut shell,,,consider he initiated physical threats, is a felon,
indigent, not of sound mind (as per the courts), and designated (by the
FCC) repeater jammer, how many lawyers you think will represent this
individual in a civil case, pro bono? Otoh, one can not initiate any
court actions on their own behalf if they are not of sound mind. One is
appointed on their behalf to represent their best interests.


Poor Twistedhed, attempts to say lawyer words hoping the rubes will
think he knows somethng LOL

From: pam
(itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote in news:9844-4276C807-
:
From: (John=A0Smith)
I am not positive here (and I am no
lawyer--but the man you stalk needs to take your posts and pics to one),
but you seem in violation of the stalking laws--
Cite the single passage you misinterpret him violating as pertains to
stalking laws.
I think if he now sues your A$$ he will have gobs of money to feed his
kids with!!!
Regards,
John
-
No chance at all. Mopar was publicly invited by Dogie. -You- need to
talk to a lawyer and have him properly explain what constitutes
stalking, as you are misinformed. In the meantime, try not to think
about such things.
-
You have no idea who made the invite,

The rest of your post assumes the above to be true. You have discounted
the possibility the identity of one who made such a physical threat was
found immediately after the post and logged with the isp's he utilized,
due to them being contacted and instructed future legal ramifications
may arise referring this specific user due his violation of the law.
But I'll play devil's advocate for you.

Cite the single passage you misinterpret him being exempt from as pertains to
stalking laws.

From: pam
(itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge)
"John Smith" wrote in
:
I said "I am not a lawyer", at this point, if it were me, I'd be
consulting one....
John

John he is no lawyer either thats why his

advise sucks wind.

No chance at all. Mopar was publicly invited by Dogie. -You- need to
talk to a lawyer and have him properly explain what constitutes
stalking, as you are misinformed. In the meantime, try not to think
about such things.

6 W. Gay St., Suite 311, Columbus, OH 43215
614-221-1255 PHONE | 888-622-9315

TOLL-FREE | 614-221-6357 FAX |

www.actionohio.org

OHIO LAW

Menacing by Stalking

"No person by engaging in a pattern of

conduct shall knowingly cause another to

believe

that the offender will cause physical harm to

the other person or cause mental distress to

the

other person."


Daaaamn,,,,Dogie is guilty fo this not with one person not with two
people here, but with a boatload.

"Pattern of conduct" is defined as "two or more
actions or incidents closely related in time,

whether or not there has been a prior

.conviction based on any of those actions or

.incidents.



The "actions' you speak of were initiated and perpetuated by Dogie. He
could not sue one for behaviors he initiated and committed countless
times against others.

The law has been amended to expand the

definition of "pattern of conduct" to include

cyberstalking (e.g. such as sending

.threatening messages, posting such

messages on a

computer bulletin board, using a computer

.bulletin board or listserv to induce a third

person


Just what did you consider the threats Dogie posted? Oh, that's right,
you claim you can't be sure it's him, but you can be sure it's
Mopar..lol.


to engage in stalking conduct against the

victim, or using the Global Positioning System

to

track the whereabouts of the victim).

Actions or incidents that prevent, obstruct, or

delay the performance by a public official,

firefighter, rescuer, emergency medical

services person, or emergency facility person

of any

authorized act within the public official's,

firefighter's, rescuer's emergency medical

services

person's, or emergency facility person's official
capacity may constitute a 'pattern of

conduct.'"




Yep,,,once could certainly argue that jamming a repeater as Dogie did
constitutes the prevention, delay or obstruction of possible
emergencies.

"Physical harm" is defined as "any injury,

illness, or other physiological impairment,

regardless of its gravity or duration."


Yea,,this goes with the word "tangible" you can't comprehend.

"Mental distress" is defined as "any mental

illness or condition that involves some

temporary substantial incapacity or any mental
illness or condition that would normally

require psychiatric treatment, psychological

treatment, or other mental health services

whether or not any person requested or

received psychiatric treatment, psychological

treatment, or other mental health services."



Yet, Dogie received mandatory court ordered treatment for his mental
instability resulting in crimes against children and the state.

The law prohibits stalking or harassing

someone repeatedly through electronic

means, such

as by e-mail,


Cool,,,,I knew I saved all the threats he made for a reason.

web chat room, or message board.


Those too.

Posting false information on the Internet to

cause another person to stalk an individual is

.also illegal.


LOL,,,,y'all should be shaking in your fairie boots right about now with
such an overwhelming amount of evidence against Dogie.

(The Ohio Domestic Violence Benchbook - A

Practical Guide to Competence for Judges &

Magistrates,

Second

Edition, Family Violence Prevention Center,

Ohio Office of Criminal Justice Services.)

Now,,if only you could cite a single source that claims "law" as a
definition of "tangible"...LMFAO!

From: (John=A0Smith)
So, you think that harassing a man, such as

being done here, would NOT be found to be

offensive to the general public???


I believe "harassment" is something that must be proved beyond a doubt
by a court of law, not an internet usenet opinion. In this specific
incident,Dogie not only initiated and began the harassment of many on
here, mopar included, he libeled many good folks here. Once the court
was made aware Dogie not only initiated such behavior, but continued a
campaign of personal electronic "harassment" for many years, they would
conclude he has no ground for suit. Of this, I am absolutely confident.

You think the general public would support

your abuse of this man???


Ummm,,,,what I 'think", is the hordes would come out of the woodwork to
give proper testimony (via a notarized statement) to the court
concerning Dogie's abuse along with proper examples. Mopar's statements
are quite benign compared to the psycho libelant Dogie's comments and
threats.

Well, maybe so, or maybe you should rethink

that....

Regards,

John

Dude,,,you ought check this libelant's entrance into the group. Google
N8WWM in this group, place his posts in chronological order and enjoy a
classic textbook piece of usenet history of one being driven underground
because of his own criminality, unprovoked attacks, incompetence, and
sickness. A real treat.