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On Wed, 25 May 2005 12:23:42 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote: Duh! Last time I reviewed my civics and political science notes, I thought the American People were the government. You may find it acceptable to blindly follow your elected officials like those in Hitler Germany! Woah! Back up and drop the Hitler metaphors. This is not about dictatorship, but about the ineptitude, indifference, and general lack of understanding of "big picture" politics by the average American. We elect representatives to carry out America's business in our best interests so that "we the people" do not have to. If the government had to disclose each and every piece of intelligence with the population at large, they would, at the very least, create a national security issue, and at the worst create confusion and panic as the average citizen tries to come to grips with what they've just been told. ****** no I elect representatives to do what I want. I don't elect them to go off and do as they see fit. This may not be what th eaverage American does but if they wish to jump off a cliff then so be it. Even a representative democracy can desolve into facism and dictatorship. Remember Hitler was elected and he did not gain his dictatorship untill after he was in office. Then he convinced the Congress and the poeple of Gernamy that it was in the best interest that he and the leadership rebuild Germany. He asked for their trust in the leaderships work and not to worry that they had their best interest at heart. The rate Congres s here is going in ten yrs we all will have to have papers to travel around in the US. Members in Congress want even more rigid Patriot Act enactment. I love that, they want the masses to give up civl liberties and make them feel it is patriotic to do so! Even call the law the "Patriot Act". IF Americans don't wake up to the big picture it will be to late. In fact so many things are no win place that it may now be to late. One more 9/11 event and that may spell the end of most of our civil liberties. I bet Jefferson is rolling in his grave at the blind sheep the Americans have become. james |
On Wed, 25 May 2005 12:23:42 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote: Son I have a great deal of intreped feelings when a President says to me trust me I am keeping the best interests of the American People at heart and then proceeds to beat around the bush, no pun intended, trying to justify a preemptive invasion. There is a reason why we have a representative democracy and not a direct democracy. We elect people who are supposedly trained in the skills necessary to carry out our business. ***** Go ahead and just believe that those elected have y our best interests in mind. I hear the shears are being prepared for y ou sheep. james |
On Wed, 25 May 2005 08:12:20 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote: Outsourcing is inevitable until the standard of living in the rest of the world equalizes with our own. It's not good news for us, but it's an unfortunate reality. ****** You will sing a different tune when your $60K per yr job goes to China and your planned retirement of $120K+ dwindles down to $36K per yr. Think who benifits from outsourcing? Corporations. Why? Consumers demand lower prices and Corparations are doing their best to give the consumers what they want. Sorry but cheap prices can't go on for ever. Once the world's cheap labor is exploited, consumer prices will rise like a Proton Rocket. What happens when there are no more cheap labor countries like China? Can you spell double digit inflation??? How about 20% per yr for about ten yrs. Maybe even longer or higher inflation rates. Yes as the world's standard of living increases, so will inflation. I forsee 10 to 20% annual inflation rates somewhere in the 2030 to 2040 time frame. By then the world will dream of 4% inflation rates. Out sourcing is eventually going to drag the US' standard of living down to the rest of the world's as their's rises towards. You can't get something for nothing. In time the US will suffer. Prepare for China owning more an dmore of teh US debt and consequently the US' economy . james |
On Wed, 25 May 2005 09:03:07 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: Let's get real, there are two of our VERY LARGE, VERY expensive buildings missing in New York. Thousands of Americans died in those buildings. There was a large hole in our pentagon, site of our most holy protection for this land. One plane was headed towards the Whitehouse, another of our most holy political sites--before it was downed. There are a few airplanes of ours which were destroyed in these attacts--and American lives lost on each and everyone of these aircraft. ***** For starts about a third of the people that dies inteh WTC were foreign nationals working here in the US. So before you get down and pray to the missing phallic symbols, remember that not only Americans dies in NY. There is no positive conclusive belief that the fourth plane was targeted toteh Capitol Building or the Whitehouse. There is circumstancial evedince only. Secondly there is nothing "Holy" about the Pentagon or teh buildings that house our legislature or executive offices. ****** Anyone who does not want to go after those who did THAT, with every resource at our disposal, is either a coward, terrorist themselves, or an idiot. And, the radical muslims will point blank tell you that you have three choices--join them, be enslaved by them or die. Any rational person would choose a fourth--they die! ***** Well then why are we in Iraq? UBL was never in Iraq nor were any of his training bases. I will admit that he may have had recruiting centers in Iraq. UBL is most likely in the Xinjiang province of China. We had him cornered in Tora Bora and let him get away. So it seems that the tough talking cowboy from Texas has lost his swagger or at least his intention to go after UBL. Maybe it was tough talk and nothing more. We simply don't have a choice in this matter... ***** Yes we always have choices. All to often the mouth engages before the brain and then choices are all to often removed. james |
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James:
There is much truth in your words. The forefathers intended the least gov't is the best gov't--gov't should only serve the people and provide for their best interests and well being--down to the very last, one, single, citizen... It is quite obvious this gov't has much bigger plans... Warmest regards, John "james" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 May 2005 12:23:42 -0400, Dave Hall wrote: Son I have a great deal of intreped feelings when a President says to me trust me I am keeping the best interests of the American People at heart and then proceeds to beat around the bush, no pun intended, trying to justify a preemptive invasion. There is a reason why we have a representative democracy and not a direct democracy. We elect people who are supposedly trained in the skills necessary to carry out our business. ***** Go ahead and just believe that those elected have y our best interests in mind. I hear the shears are being prepared for y ou sheep. james |
James:
Gesus man, you are RIGHT ON!!! Warmest regards, John "james" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 May 2005 08:12:20 -0400, Dave Hall wrote: Outsourcing is inevitable until the standard of living in the rest of the world equalizes with our own. It's not good news for us, but it's an unfortunate reality. ****** You will sing a different tune when your $60K per yr job goes to China and your planned retirement of $120K+ dwindles down to $36K per yr. Think who benifits from outsourcing? Corporations. Why? Consumers demand lower prices and Corparations are doing their best to give the consumers what they want. Sorry but cheap prices can't go on for ever. Once the world's cheap labor is exploited, consumer prices will rise like a Proton Rocket. What happens when there are no more cheap labor countries like China? Can you spell double digit inflation??? How about 20% per yr for about ten yrs. Maybe even longer or higher inflation rates. Yes as the world's standard of living increases, so will inflation. I forsee 10 to 20% annual inflation rates somewhere in the 2030 to 2040 time frame. By then the world will dream of 4% inflation rates. Out sourcing is eventually going to drag the US' standard of living down to the rest of the world's as their's rises towards. You can't get something for nothing. In time the US will suffer. Prepare for China owning more an dmore of teh US debt and consequently the US' economy . james |
On Wed, 25 May 2005 13:56:48 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"
wrote: On Wed, 25 May 2005 12:39:42 -0400, I AmnotGeorgeBush wrote: And, the radical muslims will point blank tell you that you have three choices--join them, be enslaved by them or die. Muslims don't run this country, and the oppression you speak of is not limited to just the Muslim world or Iraq . This sounds just like the crusades all over again. If you haven't seen the new movie "Kingdom of Heaven" I suggest that you do. It will remind you of what is happening in the middle east now, even if it wasn't the intent of the movie. Regards, Leland C. Scott KC8LDO ******* Fantastic movie. The best that I have seen in several years. The messages were subtile but there. If one recognizes, then the movie has great meaning. james |
James:
If you haven't noticed, we ARE right in the middle of the right place to find enemies... if you don't think there are tightly knit groups of radicals right in Iraq and most of the other surrounding countries, think again... better to fight them there than here... at least the gauntlet has been thrown down on foreign soil and the battles and war can take place there... life goes on as usual here, children attend school, retired people vacation and there are NO suicide bombings or terrorist attacks--there is enough there to busy their hands... let the war stay there... Warmest regards, John "james" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 May 2005 09:03:07 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: Let's get real, there are two of our VERY LARGE, VERY expensive buildings missing in New York. Thousands of Americans died in those buildings. There was a large hole in our pentagon, site of our most holy protection for this land. One plane was headed towards the Whitehouse, another of our most holy political sites--before it was downed. There are a few airplanes of ours which were destroyed in these attacts--and American lives lost on each and everyone of these aircraft. ***** For starts about a third of the people that dies inteh WTC were foreign nationals working here in the US. So before you get down and pray to the missing phallic symbols, remember that not only Americans dies in NY. There is no positive conclusive belief that the fourth plane was targeted toteh Capitol Building or the Whitehouse. There is circumstancial evedince only. Secondly there is nothing "Holy" about the Pentagon or teh buildings that house our legislature or executive offices. ****** Anyone who does not want to go after those who did THAT, with every resource at our disposal, is either a coward, terrorist themselves, or an idiot. And, the radical muslims will point blank tell you that you have three choices--join them, be enslaved by them or die. Any rational person would choose a fourth--they die! ***** Well then why are we in Iraq? UBL was never in Iraq nor were any of his training bases. I will admit that he may have had recruiting centers in Iraq. UBL is most likely in the Xinjiang province of China. We had him cornered in Tora Bora and let him get away. So it seems that the tough talking cowboy from Texas has lost his swagger or at least his intention to go after UBL. Maybe it was tough talk and nothing more. We simply don't have a choice in this matter... ***** Yes we always have choices. All to often the mouth engages before the brain and then choices are all to often removed. james |
"John Smith" wrote in message ... James: Gesus man, you are RIGHT ON!!! Warmest regards, John "james" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 May 2005 08:12:20 -0400, Dave Hall wrote: Outsourcing is inevitable until the standard of living in the rest of the world equalizes with our own. It's not good news for us, but it's an unfortunate reality. ****** You will sing a different tune when your $60K per yr job goes to China and your planned retirement of $120K+ dwindles down to $36K per yr. Think who benifits from outsourcing? Corporations. Why? Consumers demand lower prices and Corparations are doing their best to give the consumers what they want. Sorry but cheap prices can't go on for ever. Once the world's cheap labor is exploited, consumer prices will rise like a Proton Rocket. What happens when there are no more cheap labor countries like China? Can you spell double digit inflation??? How about 20% per yr for about ten yrs. Maybe even longer or higher inflation rates. Yes as the world's standard of living increases, so will inflation. I forsee 10 to 20% annual inflation rates somewhere in the 2030 to 2040 time frame. By then the world will dream of 4% inflation rates. Out sourcing is eventually going to drag the US' standard of living down to the rest of the world's as their's rises towards. You can't get something for nothing. In time the US will suffer. Prepare for China owning more an dmore of teh US debt and consequently the US' economy . james Hello, James I don't know how much of the world will see huge inflation, but I will guarantee we, in the United States, *will* see it if the huge deficits aren't corrected. Taxes are going to have to rise (actually, at the local level they are - sales tax, fees, etc.). Ever notice the "FCC fee" on your telephone bill? Eventually, they are going to have to tap the wealthy (including the capital gains), but if they wait too long, it will be too late. My guess is that if the Republicans loose some elections, the Democrats will raise taxes (which should have already been done, considering the deficit). Then, the Republicans will have new ammunition for the next elections. Regardless, the Federal deficit, in my mind, is the most dangerous thing for the United States at this point in mind (closely followed by the current administration). 73 from Rochester, NY Jim |
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