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Vinnie S. July 24th 05 04:59 AM

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.


You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW privilages.

Vinnie S.

Scott in Baltimore July 24th 05 05:42 AM

I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW privilages.

And they should test for the knowledge of shoeing horses to drive a car.

I don't think CW will die. There will always be someone that wants to understand
the beeping that's going on. If someone wants to learn it and use it, let them.
the rest of us are dusting off our 2950's and waiting...

I had to email Riley to answer a lively conversation on 2 meters last night.

Seems some folks can't believe an unmodified 2950 is legal to use on 10 meters.
If I read the rules right, an amateur can use any radio on the ham bands. The
FCC only gets upset when one uses an uncertified radio on a Part 95 band. If
the 2950 has it's jumpers in the stock position, it should be OK on the ham band.
If modified, you can no longer use it anywhere. I'm still waiting for an answer.

I'm not allowed to use my 2950 on CB, my IC-2100 on MURS or my HTX-420 on FRS.

I can use my TRC-451 on CB, my 21-1910 on MURS and my 21-1860 on FRS, however,
if I modify any of them to work 10 meters ,2 meters or 70 centimeters, I'm good.

I guess I'll have to pass Element 3 again. It expired on July 6, 2004. I missed
the Extra test by two questions without even cracking a book the same day I
passed General. No code. I'm still a tech that uses a CB as well as ham.

Steveo July 24th 05 11:29 AM

"Jim Hampton" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jim Hampton" wrote:
"Landshark" wrote in message
m...

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
Excuse me whilst I get a second beer. I limit myself to 3 beers
per
day,
maximum. I have to shut down as those dang quarter kegs are a
pain to move
around in the house :)))






Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim


LOL!!! Went outside, threw the tap........Spit,
cough, gurgle......... Foster keg went dry..........

Landshark


--
Courage is what it takes to stand up
and speak; courage is also what it
takes to sit down and listen.



Awful, isn't it? Dang, I had just seen a horrible gunfight. I had
the jpg, but sent it to Mopar as I couldn't handle it. It was
interesting. You can ask Mopar for the thing or I can ask him to send
it back so I

can
send it to you, but it was really horrific. Not something to show to
women. ( ;) )

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

Are you talking about these taps, Jim? lol

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Hello, Mopar

No! I'm talking about the gunfight. Where the women are shooting the
guns. Didn't you get it from me?

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

Yea I got that one too Jim...may be too brutal for viewing here. g

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John Smith July 24th 05 04:53 PM

Vinnie:

Now that sounds perfectly logical.

Really, they are not going to let those CB'ers have a key unless they
have take a CW test, are they?

John

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"

wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
. ..
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have
used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.


You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM,
the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one
point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW
privilages.

Vinnie S.




Leland C. Scott July 24th 05 05:25 PM


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"


wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.


You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW

privilages.

There is no need to have any test for CW. The use of it will stand or fall
on it's own merits without any artificial boost due to testing requirements.
CW will never die out completely, like classic cars, somebody will always
have an interest in it.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Vinnie S.




John Smith July 24th 05 05:58 PM

Leland:

Let's hope not!

Let us hope that shortly when CW only proves to be an annoyance to the
CB'er attempting to get smokey reports and exercise their roger beep
and echo mics--that they will mount a campaign to have CW banned from
HF so it doesn't interfere with data communications and voice!

John

"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
...

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"


wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I
have used
code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.

You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's
NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one
point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want
CW

privilages.

There is no need to have any test for CW. The use of it will stand
or fall
on it's own merits without any artificial boost due to testing
requirements.
CW will never die out completely, like classic cars, somebody will
always
have an interest in it.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Vinnie S.






Scott in Baltimore July 24th 05 07:37 PM

Let us hope that shortly when CW only proves to be an annoyance to the
CB'er attempting to get smokey reports and exercise their roger beep
and echo mics--that they will mount a campaign to have CW banned from
HF so it doesn't interfere with data communications and voice!



Don't give those brass pounders any ideas about sending CW on 27185...

Landshark July 24th 05 09:36 PM


"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (Landshark)
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
Excuse me whilst I get a second beer. I limit myself to 3 beers per day,
maximum. I have to shut down as those dang quarter kegs are a pain to
move
around in the house :)))
Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim

LOL!!!

Went outside, threw the

tap........Spit,


cough, gurgle......... Foster keg went dry..........


Landshark




Ahhhh, a kindred soul....you DO recognize good potation. Some of the
**** that people buy in this country is amazing.


Ah, the brewed spirits. Forget the pyramids, the Egyptians
IMOP are famous for that.

Landshark


--
The internet is fun but it's no substitute for books, people, nature,
or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you
need from your computer, you are a fool.

Frank Gililland



Leland C. Scott July 25th 05 02:40 AM


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Leland:

Let's hope not!

Let us hope that shortly when CW only proves to be an annoyance to the
CB'er attempting to get smokey reports and exercise their roger beep
and echo mics--that they will mount a campaign to have CW banned from
HF so it doesn't interfere with data communications and voice!


I'm not against CW use, just the testing angle. If somebody wants to use CW,
well that's fine by me.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO


John

"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
...

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"


wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I
have used
code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.

You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's
NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one
point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.


I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want
CW

privilages.

There is no need to have any test for CW. The use of it will stand
or fall
on it's own merits without any artificial boost due to testing
requirements.
CW will never die out completely, like classic cars, somebody will
always
have an interest in it.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Vinnie S.








Vinnie S. July 25th 05 04:13 AM

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:25:13 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"


wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have used
code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.

You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW

privilages.

There is no need to have any test for CW. The use of it will stand or fall
on it's own merits without any artificial boost due to testing requirements.
CW will never die out completely, like classic cars, somebody will always
have an interest in it.


I guess that is true.

Vinnie S.

I AmnotGeorgeBush July 25th 05 11:15 PM

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Actually, my mother taught me to ignore fools


and not address them at all...


But she didn't teach you -better-. In fact your current struggle is
rooted with this mother
fixation of yours.

...afraid, I ignore her teachings


So you're afraid (shrug). That's no reason to ignore what you were
taught. That you think making insults then commenting on college and a
debate club as if you knew something of the subject is testament you
ignored MANY teachings, not just your mutha's.

and address you at my own peril...


That IS how usenet works. It never ceases to amaze me how some who are
licensed in communications know so little of it. Wait! Yes it does!!

John



I AmnotGeorgeBush July 25th 05 11:24 PM


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From:
(John=A0Smith)
Either way, I feel your past mental history



There is that double digit IQ that prefers to attack a poster rather
than the topic. Demonstrate a bit more, if you would, this subject of
debate of which you continue embarrass yourself. Tell us more of -your-
college that -you- invoked that taught you such intelligent debate
tactics.

and


frequent confinements to mental institutions



You know nothing of debate, which -was- your original attempted
regurgitation. To think you knew something else is to be expected. To
ask another to believe you know something after such witty examples of
intellect, well, that would be expected of you as well.

and dependence on psychiatric drugs (which


are not working) should be a barrier to you


being issued a license...


John



Frequent confinements? What makes you think I got out? "Either way", if
your communication deficit wasn't roaring its ugly head and using your
ego as its whippin' boy, you would retain what you read in this group.
But you can't, as you have more than demonstrated. No drugs or alcohol
or red meat or tobacco shall corrupt my bodily temple. For daily
guidance and strength, I need only look to your kind quotes and posts
for the instant realization of how gifted and blessed I truly am. By
comparison, of course. Just want to make sure you can continue follow.
..


I AmnotGeorgeBush July 25th 05 11:37 PM

From: (John=A0Smith)
Anger?


Absolutely. When you introduced personal insult as a means to convey
your feelings, it was a knee-jerk response to feelings of anger or low
self-esteem. Have it your way, it's the latter, then. By the time (if)
you finish this college you felt impotant enough to invoke, you will
learn such things. Insult has no place in debate. Next time, know a
little more of your subject before you slap yourself for other's
benefit.

You fail to see satire and irony when you read


it, you don't recognize "dry humor?"...



Satire is not laced with direct insult, nor is dry humor. Your first
claim that you knew something of debate embarrassed you and you were
pardoned when you demonstrated ignorance arrived by your insult. Fine.
Tits up for you topping that with your incorrect interpretations of
satire and dry humor. Satirists don't directly insult, as they have no
need. They understand the subtle implications of their work and the
generally educated public can correctly infer such from their work. But
you, man, you brilliantly demonstrated not only a most unsound
description, but a through misinterpretation of both satire -and-
debate.

... you really think I take you as anything more


than the silliest of jokes?



That is exactly what you did by attempting to invoke -your- college. You
did so in a most serious attempt, but since you totally embarrassed
yourself with such a failed example, you now wish to claim it a joke.
Agreed. With such an example of debate from you, a joke is what the
educated interpret such as.



Common guy (or girl, or it), sit down the opium
pipe and step away into the light...


John


So out of anger or low self-esteem, you have demonstrated and chosen an
unhealthy preoccupation for speaking of both drugs and this mother
complex you brought to the group. Please try and understand that your
needs can be better met by someone who cares for you.


"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
... From:
(John Smith)
Jim:
At my college, the "flames" here wouldn't even
make a pimple on a good debaters A$$.


You know nothing of debate, as your posts
attest. They are made in haste and anger.
Your insults should be left at the door. Of
course, people in college familiar with debate
already know this.

Not to be confused with the actual A$$'s here,


Right on cue. Thank you for the brilliance shared.

John



I AmnotGeorgeBush July 25th 05 11:46 PM

From: (John=A0Smith)
Yes, I'd say better if you limit your alcohol


intake...


Everyone should limit their alcohol intake but what you say has been
shown to be quite incompetent in both meaning, definition, and
cohesiveness.


Your nature suggests an abusive alcoholic,



Tell ya' what. Since you showed you knew nothing of debate, why don't
you change the subject to yet another, like, hey, I have it,,the poster,
again. Since it was the "poster" that illustrated your incompetence by
pointing out your insults have no place in this skilled debate you tried
but failed to speak of, why don't you attack him/her again. By Jove, and
to think your young mind will one day be part of the generation that
runs this country.
Look, just because I
**** on you like a frequent drunk when you hurl insults, doesn't mean I
actually drink. Again, if you retained what you read, you would know
this already, in addition to knowing debate has no place for insult. In
fact, if you retained what you read, you wouldn't be having such
difficulties with this college -you- mentioned that has you misdefining,
misinterpreting, and repeating erroneoulsly in public what you feel is
"debate". S'cool. Just look to me when you're feeling so bad about
yourself again in the future and I'll set you right every time.

bet the police records in your town of


residence (both past and present) would tell a


story of long term abuse of women and


children...



Is that all you got? Was that your best? May God's hand find you before
you graduate. You need guidance, young angry man.
So far you have mentioned a drug issue, a
mother complex, an alcohol problem, and now, violence against women and
children.
This is really binding you like a disease.

Yes, it does show...


And how.

John



AKC owns this NG July 26th 05 12:05 AM

You are just a sawed off wristflipping fairy, twitlips. Better pay
attention to that baby monitor, FUGGLY may need more KY and condoms.


AKC owns this NG July 26th 05 12:07 AM

yep, you aint Bush, for sure. A pimple on his ass has more brains.
FUGGLY renting gotten boring or something, wrist flipper?


I AmnotGeorgeBush July 26th 05 12:09 AM

There is no need to have any test for CW. The use of it will stand or
fall on it's own merits without any artificial boost due to testing
requirements. CW will never die out completely, like classic cars,
somebody will always have an interest in it. Regards,

Leland C. Scott


KC8LDO

_
One may substitute the word "hammie radio" for "CW" in your post and the
validity remains.


Steveo July 26th 05 12:16 AM

(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From:
(John=A0Smith)
Anger?


Absolutely. When you introduced personal insult as a means to convey
your feelings, it was a knee-jerk response to feelings of anger or low
self-esteem.

F the CC. ($1 Steve Earle)

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Lets Get Metaphysical July 26th 05 12:21 AM

On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:25:31 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-05-143A1.doc


John



I think the most beneficial part of learning Morse code at 13 wpm or
faster is the pride in the accomplishment. 5 wpm is nothing. It took
me two weeks to go from start to passing my code test, and I don't
even like Morse code. When I passed my 13 wpm test I was proud of my
ham license, because I had to work for it. There is no pride in being
a CB'er, because you don't have to earn it.
I'd like to see the code requirement go back to 13 wpm for HF
access. It separates those that want to be hams from those that just
think they want to be hams.

-Ham since 1986.
-CBer since 1975


I AmnotGeorgeBush July 26th 05 12:59 AM

When it's all said and done, nothing gets through the air like code.
Nothing.


Scott in Baltimore July 26th 05 02:27 AM

I AmnotGeorgeBush wrote:

You going to the JG B-Day in WV?

I should be there Saturday afternoon carrying ****
in and out for one band.

an old friend July 26th 05 03:21 AM



I AmnotGeorgeBush wrote:
When it's all said and done, nothing gets through the air like code.
Nothing.


Indeed Nothing does get though as well as Morse nothing at all


John Smith July 26th 05 03:24 AM

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I AmnotGeorgeBush July 26th 05 11:03 PM

From: (Scott=A0in=A0Baltimore)

You going to the JG B-Day in WV?


I should be there Saturday afternoon carrying


**** in and out for one band.



I can't get away this summer, although I was sure as hell planning on
it. I've been putting in 7 day weeks this summer. This place is packed.
Tourists never left. I have retirement in my sights...maybe in two or
three years. Email me when you come back with that sweet s'board. Dude,
believe me,,,,I'll be thinking of you having a blast that day!


I AmnotGeorgeBush July 26th 05 11:08 PM

From: (John=A0Smith)
yep...
... no city can pass an ordinance to keep out the nuisance!
Heheheheheheheeeeeeeeeee!
evil-grin
John
_
Haha! Those ordinances haven't been the cure-all some expected.
Check this out,,I was at a truck stop on US 301 yesterday (went to see
if they had any Astatic hand-helds) and guess what I saw? Dem good old
Galaxies. They're baaaaaack! And after such a short absence heheh!


Scott in Baltimore July 26th 05 11:56 PM

I AmnotGeorgeBush wrote:
From: (Scott in Baltimore)


You going to the JG B-Day in WV?



I should be there Saturday afternoon carrying



**** in and out for one band.




I can't get away this summer, although I was sure as hell planning on
it. I've been putting in 7 day weeks this summer. This place is packed.
Tourists never left. I have retirement in my sights...maybe in two or
three years. Email me when you come back with that sweet s'board. Dude,
believe me,,,,I'll be thinking of you having a blast that day!


I'll get the SB later. I'm planning on setting up the 8mm camcorder
I found in the dumpster on a tripod. It can be synced up later to
the Timmy board. I'll hook up the cheap external mike I bought to
use with EchoLink to the mike jack. I did some tests and the external
is clearer, just less bass and more treble. It only has to be good
enough to sync with the SB!

You can email me if you remove DONTSPAMME from the email addy.

I AmnotGeorgeBush July 28th 05 01:59 AM

I'll get the SB later. I'm planning on setting up the 8mm camcorder I
found in the dumpster on a tripod. It can be synced up later to the
Timmy board. I'll hook up the cheap external mike I bought to use with
EchoLink to the mike jack. I did some tests and the external is clearer,
just less bass and more treble. It only has to be good enough to sync
with the SB!
You can email me if you remove DONTSPAMME from the email addy.
_
I take your word for it on the audio tweakings..I know that crew you
hang with has it down pat! You'll be hearing from me.


Frank Gilliland July 28th 05 03:17 AM

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:36:39 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote in :


"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (Landshark)
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
Excuse me whilst I get a second beer. I limit myself to 3 beers per day,
maximum. I have to shut down as those dang quarter kegs are a pain to
move
around in the house :)))
Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim

LOL!!!

Went outside, threw the

tap........Spit,


cough, gurgle......... Foster keg went dry..........


Landshark




Ahhhh, a kindred soul....you DO recognize good potation. Some of the
**** that people buy in this country is amazing.


Ah, the brewed spirits. Forget the pyramids, the Egyptians
IMOP are famous for that.

Landshark



http://www.motherearthnews.com/libra...ornfed_Cruiser






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Landshark July 28th 05 04:49 AM


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:36:39 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote in :


"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (Landshark)
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
Excuse me whilst I get a second beer. I limit myself to 3 beers per day,
maximum. I have to shut down as those dang quarter kegs are a pain to
move
around in the house :)))
Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim

LOL!!!

Went outside, threw the

tap........Spit,


cough, gurgle......... Foster keg went dry..........


Landshark




Ahhhh, a kindred soul....you DO recognize good potation. Some of the
**** that people buy in this country is amazing.


Ah, the brewed spirits. Forget the pyramids, the Egyptians
IMOP are famous for that.

Landshark



http://www.motherearthnews.com/libra...ornfed_Cruiser



Now that using the old noggin ;)

Landshark


--
Kindness is the language which the deaf
can hear and the blind can see.



Steveo July 29th 05 02:03 AM

Steveo wrote:
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From:
(John=A0Smith)
Anger?


Absolutely. When you introduced personal insult as a means to convey
your feelings, it was a knee-jerk response to feelings of anger or low
self-esteem.

F the CC. ($1 Steve Earle)

Hey Twist, it's a radio tune to boot! (ever hear it?)

Lyrics for Album: Revolution Starts Now (F the CC)
-------------------------------------------------
I used to listen to the radio
And I don’t guess they’re listenin’ to me no more
They talk too much but that’s okay
I don’t understand a single word they say
**** and moan about the immigrants
But don’t say nothin’ about the president
A democracy don’t work that way
I can say anything I wanna say

So **** the FCC
**** the FBI
**** the CIA
Livin’ in the mother****in’ USA

People tell me that I’m paranoid
And I admit I’m gettin’ pretty nervous, boy
It just gets tougher everyday
To sit around and watch it while it slips away
Been called a traitor and a patriot
Call me anything you want to but
Just don’t forget your history
Dirty Lenny died so we could all be free

Sarangel Music (ASCAP)

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AKC owns this NG August 1st 05 07:09 PM

one may substitute "wrist flipping FUGGLY renter" for "I
AmnotGeorgeBush" in all your posts and they ll become 100% more valid,
which is still zero total validity.


I AmnotGeorgeBush August 2nd 05 01:17 AM

Mopar wrote:
t's a radio tune to boot! (ever hear it?)


Lyrics for Album: Revolution Starts Now (F the
CC)


----------------------------------------------
I used to listen to the radio
And I don't guess they're listenin' to me no more They talk too much but
that's okay
I don't understand a single word they say **** and moan about the
immigrants
But don't say nothin' about the president A democracy don't work that
way
I can say anything I wanna say
So **** the FCC
**** the FBI
**** the CIA
Livin' in the mother****in' USA
People tell me that I'm paranoid
And I admit I'm gettin' pretty nervous, boy It just gets tougher
everyday
To sit around and watch it while it slips away Been called a traitor and
a patriot
Call me anything you want to but
Just don't forget your history
Dirty Lenny died so we could all be free
Sarangel Music (ASCAP)
--
Yes, I have. Great tune. You can check it out on artistdirect.com

Earle knew Lenny Bruce was ahead of his time.


John Smith August 2nd 05 03:35 AM

IMNGB:

Sounds like you put those lyrics together after one to many...

John

"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
Mopar wrote:
t's a radio tune to boot! (ever hear it?)


Lyrics for Album: Revolution Starts Now (F the
CC)


----------------------------------------------
I used to listen to the radio
And I don't guess they're listenin' to me no more They talk too much but
that's okay
I don't understand a single word they say **** and moan about the
immigrants
But don't say nothin' about the president A democracy don't work that
way
I can say anything I wanna say
So **** the FCC
**** the FBI
**** the CIA
Livin' in the mother****in' USA
People tell me that I'm paranoid
And I admit I'm gettin' pretty nervous, boy It just gets tougher
everyday
To sit around and watch it while it slips away Been called a traitor and
a patriot
Call me anything you want to but
Just don't forget your history
Dirty Lenny died so we could all be free
Sarangel Music (ASCAP)
--
Yes, I have. Great tune. You can check it out on artistdirect.com

Earle knew Lenny Bruce was ahead of his time.




I AmnotGeorgeBush August 2nd 05 01:58 PM

From: (John=A0Smith)
IMNGB:
Sounds like you put those lyrics together after one to many...
John
-
Funtastic! Mopar made me aware of 'em! Perhaps you should try webtv or
something that quotes in a manner that won't confuse you on who posted
what.


Steveo August 2nd 05 10:06 PM

(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From:
(John=A0Smith)
IMNGB:
Sounds like you put those lyrics together after one to many...
John
-
Funtastic! Mopar made me aware of 'em! Perhaps you should try webtv or
something that quotes in a manner that won't confuse you on who posted
what.

John Smith is an asshole. (newsflash?)

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Steveo August 2nd 05 11:27 PM

(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
Mopar wrote:
t's a radio tune to boot! (ever hear it?)


Lyrics for Album: Revolution Starts Now (F the
CC)


----------------------------------------------
I used to listen to the radio
And I don't guess they're listenin' to me no more They talk too much but
that's okay
I don't understand a single word they say **** and moan about the
immigrants
But don't say nothin' about the president A democracy don't work that
way
I can say anything I wanna say
So **** the FCC
**** the FBI
**** the CIA
Livin' in the mother****in' USA
People tell me that I'm paranoid
And I admit I'm gettin' pretty nervous, boy It just gets tougher
everyday
To sit around and watch it while it slips away Been called a traitor and
a patriot
Call me anything you want to but
Just don't forget your history
Dirty Lenny died so we could all be free
Sarangel Music (ASCAP)

Yes, I have. Great tune. You can check it out on artistdirect.com


Earle knew Lenny Bruce was ahead of his time.


Steve Earle's tunes are a working mans storybook, as long as you enjoy a
Texas/Tennessee rocker with a slant to the left.

He hasn't scored any points with the Republican party yet, but his songs
are fun to grab onto and ride. :)

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John Smith August 3rd 05 12:18 AM

IANGB:

The made webtv for oldsters who could not cut the grade on a computer, naaa...
I was anxiously awaiting the development of the computer my whole life long...

Get a computer and dump that "childs toy."

John

"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (John Smith)
IMNGB:
Sounds like you put those lyrics together after one to many...
John
-
Funtastic! Mopar made me aware of 'em! Perhaps you should try webtv or
something that quotes in a manner that won't confuse you on who posted
what.



John Smith August 3rd 05 12:19 AM

Steveo:

You gays think most straights are assholes, it is just wishful thinking on your
part...

John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From:
(John=A0Smith)
IMNGB:
Sounds like you put those lyrics together after one to many...
John
-
Funtastic! Mopar made me aware of 'em! Perhaps you should try webtv or
something that quotes in a manner that won't confuse you on who posted
what.

John Smith is an asshole. (newsflash?)

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http://NewsReader.Com/




Steveo August 3rd 05 01:23 AM

"John Smith" wrote:
Steveo:

You gays think most straights are assholes, it is just wishful thinking
on your part...

John

Oh lookie, a top posted gay lame now. You are one original top-posting
crystal ball reader, dr ****smith.

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John Smith August 3rd 05 02:02 AM

Steveo:

Whatever I am, it could always be WORSE!!!

.... look in a mirror, the proof is staring you in the face...

John

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"John Smith" wrote:
Steveo:

You gays think most straights are assholes, it is just wishful thinking
on your part...

John

Oh lookie, a top posted gay lame now. You are one original top-posting
crystal ball reader, dr ****smith.

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http://NewsReader.Com/





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