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Vinnie S. July 24th 05 04:59 AM

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.


You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW privilages.

Vinnie S.

Scott in Baltimore July 24th 05 05:42 AM

I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW privilages.

And they should test for the knowledge of shoeing horses to drive a car.

I don't think CW will die. There will always be someone that wants to understand
the beeping that's going on. If someone wants to learn it and use it, let them.
the rest of us are dusting off our 2950's and waiting...

I had to email Riley to answer a lively conversation on 2 meters last night.

Seems some folks can't believe an unmodified 2950 is legal to use on 10 meters.
If I read the rules right, an amateur can use any radio on the ham bands. The
FCC only gets upset when one uses an uncertified radio on a Part 95 band. If
the 2950 has it's jumpers in the stock position, it should be OK on the ham band.
If modified, you can no longer use it anywhere. I'm still waiting for an answer.

I'm not allowed to use my 2950 on CB, my IC-2100 on MURS or my HTX-420 on FRS.

I can use my TRC-451 on CB, my 21-1910 on MURS and my 21-1860 on FRS, however,
if I modify any of them to work 10 meters ,2 meters or 70 centimeters, I'm good.

I guess I'll have to pass Element 3 again. It expired on July 6, 2004. I missed
the Extra test by two questions without even cracking a book the same day I
passed General. No code. I'm still a tech that uses a CB as well as ham.

Steveo July 24th 05 11:29 AM

"Jim Hampton" wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
"Jim Hampton" wrote:
"Landshark" wrote in message
m...

"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
Excuse me whilst I get a second beer. I limit myself to 3 beers
per
day,
maximum. I have to shut down as those dang quarter kegs are a
pain to move
around in the house :)))






Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim


LOL!!! Went outside, threw the tap........Spit,
cough, gurgle......... Foster keg went dry..........

Landshark


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Courage is what it takes to stand up
and speak; courage is also what it
takes to sit down and listen.



Awful, isn't it? Dang, I had just seen a horrible gunfight. I had
the jpg, but sent it to Mopar as I couldn't handle it. It was
interesting. You can ask Mopar for the thing or I can ask him to send
it back so I

can
send it to you, but it was really horrific. Not something to show to
women. ( ;) )

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

Are you talking about these taps, Jim? lol

http://img226.imageshack.us/my.php?i...ocktits1yp.jpg

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Hello, Mopar

No! I'm talking about the gunfight. Where the women are shooting the
guns. Didn't you get it from me?

73 from Rochester, NY
Jim

Yea I got that one too Jim...may be too brutal for viewing here. g

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John Smith July 24th 05 04:53 PM

Vinnie:

Now that sounds perfectly logical.

Really, they are not going to let those CB'ers have a key unless they
have take a CW test, are they?

John

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"

wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
. ..
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have
used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.


You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM,
the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one
point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW
privilages.

Vinnie S.




Leland C. Scott July 24th 05 05:25 PM


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"


wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have used

code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.


You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW

privilages.

There is no need to have any test for CW. The use of it will stand or fall
on it's own merits without any artificial boost due to testing requirements.
CW will never die out completely, like classic cars, somebody will always
have an interest in it.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Vinnie S.




John Smith July 24th 05 05:58 PM

Leland:

Let's hope not!

Let us hope that shortly when CW only proves to be an annoyance to the
CB'er attempting to get smokey reports and exercise their roger beep
and echo mics--that they will mount a campaign to have CW banned from
HF so it doesn't interfere with data communications and voice!

John

"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
...

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"


wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I
have used
code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.

You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's
NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one
point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want
CW

privilages.

There is no need to have any test for CW. The use of it will stand
or fall
on it's own merits without any artificial boost due to testing
requirements.
CW will never die out completely, like classic cars, somebody will
always
have an interest in it.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Vinnie S.






Scott in Baltimore July 24th 05 07:37 PM

Let us hope that shortly when CW only proves to be an annoyance to the
CB'er attempting to get smokey reports and exercise their roger beep
and echo mics--that they will mount a campaign to have CW banned from
HF so it doesn't interfere with data communications and voice!



Don't give those brass pounders any ideas about sending CW on 27185...

Landshark July 24th 05 09:36 PM


"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (Landshark)
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message
...
Excuse me whilst I get a second beer. I limit myself to 3 beers per day,
maximum. I have to shut down as those dang quarter kegs are a pain to
move
around in the house :)))
Best regards from Rochester, NY
Jim

LOL!!!

Went outside, threw the

tap........Spit,


cough, gurgle......... Foster keg went dry..........


Landshark




Ahhhh, a kindred soul....you DO recognize good potation. Some of the
**** that people buy in this country is amazing.


Ah, the brewed spirits. Forget the pyramids, the Egyptians
IMOP are famous for that.

Landshark


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or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you
need from your computer, you are a fool.

Frank Gililland



Leland C. Scott July 25th 05 02:40 AM


"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Leland:

Let's hope not!

Let us hope that shortly when CW only proves to be an annoyance to the
CB'er attempting to get smokey reports and exercise their roger beep
and echo mics--that they will mount a campaign to have CW banned from
HF so it doesn't interfere with data communications and voice!


I'm not against CW use, just the testing angle. If somebody wants to use CW,
well that's fine by me.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO


John

"Leland C. Scott" wrote in message
...

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"


wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I
have used
code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.

You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's
NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one
point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.


I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want
CW

privilages.

There is no need to have any test for CW. The use of it will stand
or fall
on it's own merits without any artificial boost due to testing
requirements.
CW will never die out completely, like classic cars, somebody will
always
have an interest in it.

Regards,

Leland C. Scott
KC8LDO

Vinnie S.








Vinnie S. July 25th 05 04:13 AM

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:25:13 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 04:49:31 -0400, "Leland C. Scott"


wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
BTW, I got my ticket to General. Do you know how many times I have used
code?
ZERO. I have already forgotten the alphabet.

You know that was one of the points the FCC mentioned in it's NPRM, the
frequency that Hams learn the code and then never use it, as one point in
their decision to drop Morse testing completely.



I still hear it on 10 meters. They should test for it if you want CW

privilages.

There is no need to have any test for CW. The use of it will stand or fall
on it's own merits without any artificial boost due to testing requirements.
CW will never die out completely, like classic cars, somebody will always
have an interest in it.


I guess that is true.

Vinnie S.


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