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40/80 meters isnt any better then cb 11 meters if not worse
I have been listening in to 40 and 80 meters i see no diiference then 11
meter nets. These guys swearing more then 11 meters hell one guy didnt catch his call was using an echo master with roger beep tones on his Icom..What a bunch of clowns..These nets wouldnt let some others in who were calling saying they were weak and didnt belong with the big boys.. It's amazin thousand of dollars for equipment and they sound and act worse then many cbers.. |
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"123a 456a" wrote in message ... I have been listening in to 40 and 80 meters i see no diiference then 11 meter nets. These guys swearing more then 11 meters hell one guy didnt catch his call was using an echo master with roger beep tones on his Icom..What a bunch of clowns..These nets wouldnt let some others in who were calling saying they were weak and didnt belong with the big boys.. It's amazin thousand of dollars for equipment and they sound and act worse then many cbers.. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
I certainly agree with you! I've been away from 11m for a few years, but often listened to shortwave (75m), and you've summed it up perfectly. I figure, the populus goes where the conditions (skip) allow the best, and thus, you get the ultimate sampling of the personality of most people out there. I grew up on walkie talkies, and then my first CB radio in the mid 1960's, so at least I got to experience a time when communications were decent! |
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Troll, Troll, Troll your net.... "123a 456a" wrote in message ... I have been listening in to 40 and 80 meters i see no diiference then 11 meter nets. These guys swearing more then 11 meters hell one guy didnt catch his call was using an echo master with roger beep tones on his Icom..What a bunch of clowns..These nets wouldnt let some others in who were calling saying they were weak and didnt belong with the big boys.. It's amazin thousand of dollars for equipment and they sound and act worse then many cbers.. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- What? -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
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"123a 456a" wrote in message ... I have been listening in to 40 and 80 meters i see no diiference then 11 meter nets. These guys swearing more then 11 meters hell one guy didnt catch his call was using an echo master with roger beep tones on his Icom..What a bunch of clowns..These nets wouldnt let some others in who were calling saying they were weak and didnt belong with the big boys.. It's amazin thousand of dollars for equipment and they sound and act worse then many cbers.. I've never found any problem on 75 meters. BTW, 75 meters implies something other than 80 meters. Ever. I doubt any licensed amateur would care to use any echo as it simply degrades your intelligibility. I've run across a few lids, but *very* few. None on 75 or 160. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
"Lets Get Metaphysical" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:47:58 -0400, (123a 456a) wrote: I have been listening in to 40 and 80 meters i see no diiference then 11 meter nets. These guys swearing more then 11 meters hell one guy didnt catch his call was using an echo master with roger beep tones on his Icom..What a bunch of clowns..These nets wouldnt let some others in who were calling saying they were weak and didnt belong with the big boys.. It's amazin thousand of dollars for equipment and they sound and act worse then many cbers.. I've definitly heard some jerks on 75 meters, but 40 meters is a fairly well behaved bunch of guys. Most of the jerks I've heard on 75 meters were former CB'ers though. Sad but true. 80, yes, 75 no. 75 meters, to me, implies the bottom end of the band where ssb and am cannot legally go. The cw folks are a great bunch and I've never heard a problem there. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim |
From: (Lets=A0Get=A0Metaphysical)
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:47:58 -0400, (123a 456a) wrote: I have been listening in to 40 and 80 meters i see no diiference then 11 meter nets. These guys swearing more then 11 meters hell one guy didnt catch his call was using an echo master with roger beep tones on his Icom..What a bunch of clowns..These nets wouldnt let some others in who were calling saying they were weak and didnt belong with the big boys.. It's amazin thousand of dollars for equipment and they sound and act worse then many cbers.. =A0=A0=A0=A0I've definitly heard some jerks on 75 meters, but 40 meters is a fairly well behaved bunch of guys. Most of the jerks I've heard on 75 meters were former CB'ers though. Sad but true. Odds are most of the hammies on hammie radio today are former cb'ers. Nothing sad about it. If it wasn't for cb, hammie radio would be dead. CB is where the hammie radio participants originate. |
I've never found any problem on 75 meters.
BTW, 75 meters implies something other than 80 meters. Ever. I doubt any licensed amateur would care to use any echo as it simply degrades your intelligibility. Except on broadcast audio AM..oh yea,,and FM. I'm no fan of echo when it is used for a total repeat, but ask -any- broadcast engineer that worked in commercial radio about a tinge of echo. There is a reason many of those obnoxious car ads and others use echo in their commercials. It not only grabs your attention, it demands it and is usually louder than the regular programming, as is the majority of commercials. But echo is used in ads because its characteristics work much better than non-echo on AM and FM. When the effectiveness of echo is no longer effective in advertsing on commercial radio, we will all cease to hear it. Big bucks advertisers don't repeatedly spend money on ads that don't work. I've run across a few lids, but *very* few. None on 75 or 160. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA Some of those lids save their "lidness" for their cb antics and some are so scared to talk on CB anymore that all they do is deadkey. I hear (CW) keyers on CB quite often. Well, not just CB, but the freeband more than CB. Those keyers sure as hell aren't owned by the CB crowd. You are right, though. Less on 160 than 2. None on 75? We have this little town called LARGhettO in mid county. When you gonna visit your folks? I wanna show you around my RF stomping grounds |
From: (John=A0Smith)
Jim: Good advice, the new CB'ers should become acquainted with freq charts and use of the proper modes (protocols) on the various ranges of freqs (bands): http://www.handiham.org/freqchar.htm John _ Saying CB'ers should become familiar with hammie bands is about as sensible as saying all hammies should become familiar with the Freebands. If a CB'er is interested in hammie radio, he will seek out hammie band information, but if a CB'er (no matter how "new" he/she is) is not interested in playing hammie radio, there is no reason for them to learn anything of the sort. |
"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... I've never found any problem on 75 meters. BTW, 75 meters implies something other than 80 meters. Ever. I doubt any licensed amateur would care to use any echo as it simply degrades your intelligibility. Except on broadcast audio AM..oh yea,,and FM. I'm no fan of echo when it is used for a total repeat, but ask -any- broadcast engineer that worked in commercial radio about a tinge of echo. There is a reason many of those obnoxious car ads and others use echo in their commercials. It not only grabs your attention, it demands it and is usually louder than the regular programming, as is the majority of commercials. But echo is used in ads because its characteristics work much better than non-echo on AM and FM. When the effectiveness of echo is no longer effective in advertsing on commercial radio, we will all cease to hear it. Big bucks advertisers don't repeatedly spend money on ads that don't work. I've run across a few lids, but *very* few. None on 75 or 160. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA Some of those lids save their "lidness" for their cb antics and some are so scared to talk on CB anymore that all they do is deadkey. I hear (CW) keyers on CB quite often. Well, not just CB, but the freeband more than CB. Those keyers sure as hell aren't owned by the CB crowd. You are right, though. Less on 160 than 2. None on 75? We have this little town called LARGhettO in mid county. When you gonna visit your folks? I wanna show you around my RF stomping grounds Hello, Twist 75 meters (to me as well as the old-timers) implies the CW band. The phone band does have its' problem children. It did even back in the 60s. Been there, took care of those problems LOL. What have you been up to? Strange signals from Saturn? See my post I just sent to the group. How many KWs are ya runnin? With that coliniar array plus the salt water, you must be doing good to affect Saturn :)) All kidding aside, I wish folks could set aside their prejudices and understand that we are all radio enthusiasts (read: *nuts* LOL). Of course, the intentional jammers none of us need. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim |
"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... From: (Lets Get Metaphysical) On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:47:58 -0400, (123a 456a) wrote: I have been listening in to 40 and 80 meters i see no diiference then 11 meter nets. These guys swearing more then 11 meters hell one guy didnt catch his call was using an echo master with roger beep tones on his Icom..What a bunch of clowns..These nets wouldnt let some others in who were calling saying they were weak and didnt belong with the big boys.. It's amazin thousand of dollars for equipment and they sound and act worse then many cbers.. I've definitly heard some jerks on 75 meters, but 40 meters is a fairly well behaved bunch of guys. Most of the jerks I've heard on 75 meters were former CB'ers though. Sad but true. Odds are most of the hammies on hammie radio today are former cb'ers. Nothing sad about it. If it wasn't for cb, hammie radio would be dead. CB is where the hammie radio participants originate. Hello, Twist For what it is worth, I started in ham radio (1962), had a ball with cb radio (1970/71) and am still active in ham radio .... What is silly is to throw darts at each other. There are good and bad in both groups. To think otherwise is a rather bit shortsighted. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA |
"John Smith" wrote in message ... Jim: I hate when you try to do that... Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane (ranting) argument!!! John John, I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL :))) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim |
"Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Jim: I hate when you try to do that... Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane (ranting) argument!!! John John, I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL :))) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim 6:10pm on the west coast and you say haven't had enough beer yet? You a better drinker than I thought Jim :) Landshark -- Some of them are living an illusion Bounded by the darkness of their minds, In their eyes it's nation against nation, With racial pride, sad hearts they hide, Thinking only of themselves, They shun the light, They think they're right Living in the empty shells. |
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"Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Jim: I hate when you try to do that... Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane (ranting) argument!!! John John, I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL :))) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim 6:10pm on the west coast and you say haven't had enough beer yet? You a better drinker than I thought Jim :) Landshark That makes it prime time in our time zone, Shark. :) -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
For what it is worth, I started in ham radio (1962), had a ball with cb radio (1970/71) and am still active in ham radio .... What is silly is to throw darts at each other. There are good and bad in both groups. To think otherwise is a rather bit shortsighted. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA _ Which brings us to the fact that many good hammies cb on regular basis. |
iangb:
Geesh, just when I think you are some religiously-devout-whacko-ham you state obvious unarguable truth... I am silent for the shock of it all... John "I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... For what it is worth, I started in ham radio (1962), had a ball with cb radio (1970/71) and am still active in ham radio .... What is silly is to throw darts at each other. There are good and bad in both groups. To think otherwise is a rather bit shortsighted. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA _ Which brings us to the fact that many good hammies cb on regular basis. |
Steveo wrote:
"Landshark" wrote: "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Jim: I hate when you try to do that... Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane (ranting) argument!!! John John, I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL :))) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim 6:10pm on the west coast and you say haven't had enough beer yet? You a better drinker than I thought Jim :) Landshark That makes it prime time in our time zone, Shark. :) its always prime time steve :p |
"jim" wrote in message ... Steveo wrote: "Landshark" wrote: "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Jim: I hate when you try to do that... Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane (ranting) argument!!! John John, I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL :))) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim 6:10pm on the west coast and you say haven't had enough beer yet? You a better drinker than I thought Jim :) Landshark That makes it prime time in our time zone, Shark. :) its always prime time steve :p If you're retired. Landshark -- The internet is fun but it's no substitute for books, people, nature, or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you need from your computer, you are a fool. |
"Steveo" wrote in message ... "Landshark" wrote: "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Jim: I hate when you try to do that... Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane (ranting) argument!!! John John, I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL :))) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim 6:10pm on the west coast and you say haven't had enough beer yet? You a better drinker than I thought Jim :) Landshark That makes it prime time in our time zone, Shark. :) Anytime after work is prime time, doncha know! Landshark -- The internet is fun but it's no substitute for books, people, nature, or direct experiences. But you think that you can get everything you need from your computer, you are a fool. Frank Gililland |
jim wrote:
Steveo wrote: "Landshark" wrote: "Jim Hampton" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message ... Jim: I hate when you try to do that... Insert logic and reason right in the middle of damn good insane (ranting) argument!!! John John, I haven't had enough beer yet. Gimme a chance, doggone it LOL :))) 73 from Rochester, NY Jim 6:10pm on the west coast and you say haven't had enough beer yet? You a better drinker than I thought Jim :) Landshark That makes it prime time in our time zone, Shark. :) its always prime time steve :p That's right! beer:30 -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:15:43 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: iangb: Geesh, just when I think you are some religiously-devout-whacko-ham you state obvious unarguable truth... I am silent for the shock of it all... John "I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... For what it is worth, I started in ham radio (1962), had a ball with cb radio (1970/71) and am still active in ham radio .... What is silly is to throw darts at each other. There are good and bad in both groups. To think otherwise is a rather bit shortsighted. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA _ Which brings us to the fact that many good hammies cb on regular basis. I grew up on the CB band in the 1970s. I may have my ham license, but 27 MHz still feels like home. Unfortunately the quality of the people on the CB band has degraded considerably on the CB band since the 1970s. In the 1970s I almost never heard profanity on the CB band, but now it is a difficult to make it around the 40 channels even once without hearing the F word or one CB'er calling someone else a faggot. |
You are so right, Mr. Backwards. Those of us who grew up in that early
era are fortunate to have known what radio was supposed to be like, no matter what band. Mr. Backwards wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:15:43 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: iangb: Geesh, just when I think you are some religiously-devout-whacko-ham you state obvious unarguable truth... I am silent for the shock of it all... John "I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... For what it is worth, I started in ham radio (1962), had a ball with cb radio (1970/71) and am still active in ham radio .... What is silly is to throw darts at each other. There are good and bad in both groups. To think otherwise is a rather bit shortsighted. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA _ Which brings us to the fact that many good hammies cb on regular basis. I grew up on the CB band in the 1970s. I may have my ham license, but 27 MHz still feels like home. Unfortunately the quality of the people on the CB band has degraded considerably on the CB band since the 1970s. In the 1970s I almost never heard profanity on the CB band, but now it is a difficult to make it around the 40 channels even once without hearing the F word or one CB'er calling someone else a faggot. |
CB reflects the real world...
John "Mr. Backwards" m wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:15:43 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: iangb: Geesh, just when I think you are some religiously-devout-whacko-ham you state obvious unarguable truth... I am silent for the shock of it all... John "I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... For what it is worth, I started in ham radio (1962), had a ball with cb radio (1970/71) and am still active in ham radio .... What is silly is to throw darts at each other. There are good and bad in both groups. To think otherwise is a rather bit shortsighted. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA _ Which brings us to the fact that many good hammies cb on regular basis. I grew up on the CB band in the 1970s. I may have my ham license, but 27 MHz still feels like home. Unfortunately the quality of the people on the CB band has degraded considerably on the CB band since the 1970s. In the 1970s I almost never heard profanity on the CB band, but now it is a difficult to make it around the 40 channels even once without hearing the F word or one CB'er calling someone else a faggot. |
College campuses used to be different to, the "F" word now may be more
frequently heard there on campus more than on the radio... John wrote in message ups.com... You are so right, Mr. Backwards. Those of us who grew up in that early era are fortunate to have known what radio was supposed to be like, no matter what band. Mr. Backwards wrote: On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:15:43 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: iangb: Geesh, just when I think you are some religiously-devout-whacko-ham you state obvious unarguable truth... I am silent for the shock of it all... John "I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... For what it is worth, I started in ham radio (1962), had a ball with cb radio (1970/71) and am still active in ham radio .... What is silly is to throw darts at each other. There are good and bad in both groups. To think otherwise is a rather bit shortsighted. 73 from Rochester, NY Jim AA2QA _ Which brings us to the fact that many good hammies cb on regular basis. I grew up on the CB band in the 1970s. I may have my ham license, but 27 MHz still feels like home. Unfortunately the quality of the people on the CB band has degraded considerably on the CB band since the 1970s. In the 1970s I almost never heard profanity on the CB band, but now it is a difficult to make it around the 40 channels even once without hearing the F word or one CB'er calling someone else a faggot. |
These past replies are so right! Despite the downhill trend, and the
world for that matter, I have met a few good people over the years who turned out to be great friends! Worth it, considering having not met them. |
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iangb:
No need to consult the past, it exists now, and will be the future... we all reflect the present state of society, and so does our methods of communications... .... this is why amateur radio is now being drug into the 2nd millennium, we have just gotten around to it... John "I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... From: (John Smith) CB reflects the real world... John _ The "CB is a reflection of society" angle, eh? There's some good reading in the archives on this : ) |
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:48:46 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: CB reflects the real world... John In the Southeastern U.S. I've found CB to be a window in to the local trailer parks more often than not. The middle and upper class are running around with cell phones and FRS radios instead of CBs. Gone are the days of MoonRaker 4s and big radio towers peppering the neighborhoods of America. Now the same people who would have been talking on CB's in the 1970s are running around with cell phones and FRS radios today. Even the Ham Radio frequencies are largely vacant compared to the activity they enjoyed in the 1980s. The Internet and cheap cell phones has dramatically reduced the influx of new blood in to the radio hobby. |
Yes, and many of the veteran CB-ers (you know, the ones we grew up,
respected, and learned from) are long gone. Speaking of FRS, I heard back in the late 1980's that these frequencies were the anser to people's complaints about abusive behavior on the CB. That is, these new bands would not have skip, and supposedly would hamper desires for power and obscene language. Whether or not, I still think the CB bands were better, and more fun. Yes, sadly the world reflects all communications, morals and all, but what else can we do, but try and be positive. |
Barney:
First, Einstein was found wanting to his teachers, indeed, they all thought the boy lacking in mental horsepower. If not for his parents contacts (and probably greasing the palms of those in control) he would not even have had his meaningless job in the german patent office, it was the mailroom I think... before we found him and gave him the title of "likely the world's most brilliant man/scientist to have ever lived." Now, get a grip on yourself, nothing has changed. Still, the gifted are not able to be recognized--I suspect many live in those "trailer parks" you just mentioned. Perhaps some have CB radios... Indeed, this world is run by a bunch of "C" students which have barely graduated--they are intelligent enough to recognize the more gifted are a REAL danger to their jobs, are fewer in number than their fellow "C students", and so band together in gangs and chase them off to corners... The world has not changed.... John "Barney Fife" wrote in message ... On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 07:48:46 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: CB reflects the real world... John In the Southeastern U.S. I've found CB to be a window in to the local trailer parks more often than not. The middle and upper class are running around with cell phones and FRS radios instead of CBs. Gone are the days of MoonRaker 4s and big radio towers peppering the neighborhoods of America. Now the same people who would have been talking on CB's in the 1970s are running around with cell phones and FRS radios today. Even the Ham Radio frequencies are largely vacant compared to the activity they enjoyed in the 1980s. The Internet and cheap cell phones has dramatically reduced the influx of new blood in to the radio hobby. |
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IANGB:
You think you can argue philosophy with intelligent people? ROFLOL!!!! John "I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... From: (John Smith) iangb: No need to consult the past, Sure there is, otherwise such wouldn't be mandatory requirement courses found in institutions of higher learning. Indeed, there is a huge need in which to consult the past among intellectuals. It's when one wishes to argue history that self-confusion is born. it exists now, and will be the future... How profound! If our society does not learn from history, many times we are condemned to repeat the same mistakes. we all reflect the present state of society, and so does our methods of communications... True for the modern mainstream methods of communications, not archaic hobbies like CB or CW. ... this is why amateur radio is now being drug into the 2nd millennium, we have just gotten around to it... John Amateur radio isn't being "drug" anywhere. On the contrary, it's barely surviving as a method of modern communications, with the sole exception of certain disasters which occasionally carry it to the news. The dropping of code is writing on the wall. The hobby is gasping for air and on its last legs. |
From: (John=A0Smith)
IANGB: You think you can argue philosophy with intelligent people? If the train of thought is too difficult for you to remain on topic, we can discuss such limitations of yours you feel pertinent, but it's much more productive to focus on that of which you already claimed instead of running from it when corrected. ROFLOL!!!! John This group has cleaned up rather nicely. The intellects among the group rarely argue among each other. In fact, your posts have insulted everyone who disagrees with you. What you misinterpret as arguing is but mere corrections being bestowed upon thee's learning process "I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... From: (John Smith) iangb: No need to consult the past, Sure there is, otherwise such wouldn't be mandatory requirement courses found in institutions of higher learning. Indeed, there is a huge need in which to consult the past among intellectuals. It's when one wishes to argue history that self-confusion is born. it exists now, and will be the future... How profound! If our society does not learn from history, many times we are condemned to repeat the same mistakes. we all reflect the present state of society, Including those tribes in New Guinea that still utilize smoke signals, eh? Nah,,,don't think so. and so does our methods of communications... True for the modern mainstream methods of communications, not archaic hobbies like CB or CW. ... this is why amateur radio is now being drug into the 2nd millennium, we have just gotten around to it... John Amateur radio isn't being "drug" anywhere. On the contrary, it's barely surviving as a method of modern communications, with the sole exception of certain disasters which occasionally carry it to the news. The dropping of code is writing on the wall. The hobby is gasping for air and on its last legs. |
(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From: (John=A0Smith) IANGB: You think you can argue philosophy with intelligent people? If the train of thought is too difficult for you to remain on topic, we can discuss such limitations of yours you feel pertinent, but it's much more productive to focus on that of which you already claimed instead of running from it when corrected. ROFLOL!!!! John This group has cleaned up rather nicely. The intellects among the group rarely argue among each other. In fact, your posts have insulted everyone who disagrees with you. He does that in every radio he posts to, Twist. No less than 4 that I read anyway. He craves attention, just like an anonymous punk always does. -- http://NewsReader.Com/ |
IANGB:
I don't debate with monkeys or gorillas either... both animals of greater intellect that you... John "I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... From: (John Smith) IANGB: You think you can argue philosophy with intelligent people? If the train of thought is too difficult for you to remain on topic, we can discuss such limitations of yours you feel pertinent, but it's much more productive to focus on that of which you already claimed instead of running from it when corrected. ROFLOL!!!! John This group has cleaned up rather nicely. The intellects among the group rarely argue among each other. In fact, your posts have insulted everyone who disagrees with you. What you misinterpret as arguing is but mere corrections being bestowed upon thee's learning process "I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message ... From: (John Smith) iangb: No need to consult the past, Sure there is, otherwise such wouldn't be mandatory requirement courses found in institutions of higher learning. Indeed, there is a huge need in which to consult the past among intellectuals. It's when one wishes to argue history that self-confusion is born. it exists now, and will be the future... How profound! If our society does not learn from history, many times we are condemned to repeat the same mistakes. we all reflect the present state of society, Including those tribes in New Guinea that still utilize smoke signals, eh? Nah,,,don't think so. and so does our methods of communications... True for the modern mainstream methods of communications, not archaic hobbies like CB or CW. ... this is why amateur radio is now being drug into the 2nd millennium, we have just gotten around to it... John Amateur radio isn't being "drug" anywhere. On the contrary, it's barely surviving as a method of modern communications, with the sole exception of certain disasters which occasionally carry it to the news. The dropping of code is writing on the wall. The hobby is gasping for air and on its last legs. |
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