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The Magnum September 11th 05 05:37 PM


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
The Magnum wrote:

Americans enslaved blacks and nearly wiped out the Native Americans

because
they wanted to take the land... the wars with the north and south,
confederates and yankies were some of the nastiest and uncivilised

conflicts
in your history and you were well established as Americans at that time

and
was not down to the British Empire.... i dont know where you learned

your
history but wherever it was.. if it was... id sue them (hope that wasnt

too
cheap a shot)



Actually, different tribes were constantly fighting, and took slaves
when they didn't just kill them. Later, they discovered that they could
sell or trade their slaves for things that they wanted with the ships
that arrived on the African coast to trade goods. A lot of those ships
were from England, and they took the slaves to other places to sell
them.

--
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


So Michael, the point you make here is that the different tribes in America
were already into slavery and used them to barter with the English for goods
and suchlike therefore making my point that slavery wasnt a result of the
good old British Colonies... They may have been involved in the
transportation of slaves for profilt but that wasnt the point. The previous
post said, or tried to imply it was the British Colonies that introduced
slavery where that simply wasnt the case.

Also most of the slaves who ended up in Britain werent treated quite as
badly in comparison although they probably didnt think so at the time.

Anyhows this has lead a little off topic as so many threads do, but its nice
to actually have a converstaion about things rather than cheap insults.
Thank you..



The Magnum September 11th 05 05:50 PM


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
The Magnum wrote:

The British police do carry guns, but only specially trained officers

not
every rookie cop. Unlike the US and although gun crime in the UK is

growing
were nowhere near in as much trouble as to need every officer to be gun
bearing..



So, they will wait till a lot more officers die before thinking about
arming them properly? Typical.

No wonder they don't eat doughnuts. They are too busy looking for
the perp who is going to kill them while they are not permitted to
protect themselves. They are so nervous they can't hold on to a nice,
big doughnuts and cup of hot coffee without dropping the doughnuts and
getting coffee all over their uniforms.

and what was that i heard on the news.... supermarkets were robbed
of their guns by looters...... supermarkets sell guns ???? what sort of
crazy **** is that??



I have NEVER seen any guns or ammunition for sale in any supermarket
in any state that I have been in. That is as stupid as a gun store
selling doughnuts.

On the other hand, some Wal-Mart department stores do sell guns and
their super stores do sell food, but that still isn't a "Supermarket
selling guns" and several Wal-Mart stores were looted in New Orleans.


youll be giving them away free with every box of bran flakes next ;o)

No, breakfast cereal here is too cheap for them to be able to do that.
Maybe they will let you collect 500 box tops and get a box of bullets,
someday. I did heard about the salesman throwing in a free gun rack when
someone bought a new pickup truck. ;-)


--
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


LOL, the british police are armed, we have special armed forces that are
normally used in terrorist or gun related crimes but no.. the average PC
plod has his telescopic baton (oooh err matron) handcuffs (Kinky) and a can
of CS spray which he is a bit worried about using in case he gets sued...The
donut reference i think is solely a US thing as ours eat a nice bacon sarnie
while pounding the beat with children mocking them.
Mind you, that said most of our traffic police are being replaced by Gatso
cameras to make huge amounts of revenue from the poor sods who dare go a
couple of miles over a far too slow speed limit... but thats another
gripe....



Honus September 11th 05 05:50 PM


"The Magnum" wrote in message
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"Honus" wrote in message
news:LgKUe.1743$b37.486@trnddc04...

"The Magnum" wrote in message
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Well, if you ignore their cooking...

Whats wrong with list deleted


The way you "cook" it.


Which way is that??


Badly?



[email protected] September 11th 05 11:04 PM

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:51:44 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:33:27 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:



**** off, Magnum. You're nothig but a racist POS.

Like i said in a previous post, everyones racist and if they say they

arent
they are liars... a bit like you


Hey, -- Magnum -- that's just a brand of rubber, isn't it?

Is it, titter titter that was so funny....ha ahahaha youll never need one

as
your just a little pecker.... yawl have a nice day now


You'll need one, you big dickhead.


Yes i am rather well endowed.... nice of you to notice but i dont bat your
way so kindly keep your eyes off...


You likely don't bat at all.

[email protected] September 11th 05 11:07 PM

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:56:06 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:13:08 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in

message
...
U-Know-Who wrote:
Well, if you ignore their cooking...
--

Now really, how creative can you get with horsemeat, potatoes, and
cabbage?



Horsemeat.... I thought at first glance you'd written "horse****". You
wouldn't
have been far off if you had.



Ha haa hahahahaa aha pot and kettles with black included mate. Every

country
knows the truth with that one, i wont push it further..


English five-star hotel -- one with French cooks.


Id say American 5 star hotel, with a Fatty Arbuckles or McDonalds franchise




but you already know that...

Best you can do for a smiug-**** reply?

If we'd let the Germans have you in WWII, you'd at least have
a marginally better "cuisine" right now.

[email protected] September 11th 05 11:09 PM

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 09:59:13 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:11:01 GMT, "U-Know-Who"
wrote:


"-=jd=-" wrote in message
. 18...
On Thu 08 Sep 2005 06:14:23p, "Mortimer Schnerd, RN"
wrote in message
:

The Magnum wrote:
I think you will find your ancestors are english, unless your a red
indian you halfwit. Or a Peurto Rican scumbag. The people who came

into
contact with The British Empire learnt "well some of you did" how to
become civilised. If it wasnt for the Likes of the British Empire you
would be running round in animalskin pants with a spear and live in a
mud hut.... so blow it out your ass chummy.........


You guys are civilized now? When did that happen?

I really need to get out more....


Well, if you ignore their cooking...

-=jd=-
--

Now really, how creative can you get with horsemeat, potatoes, and

cabbage?


Put enough curry in it and you can gag it down. Some people
forget which way civilization lowed in this regard.


So come on then mr food critic, give us an insight into what you eat then
which puts you in a position to criticise or even to know what your typing
about... and what do you mean by civilisation lowed in this regard... its a
bit of a strange statement...


Flowed, jerkoff. You have no gift for context. You're simply
unwilling to admit the only thing to recommend eating in England is
that which you were given by those you subjugated, natve English
"cuisine" is pasty crap.

[email protected] September 11th 05 11:13 PM

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 10:22:15 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:36:42 +0100, "The Magnum"
wrote:

You *******s have ****ed over every country or civilization
you ever came into contact with. British Empire my ass.

I think you will find your ancestors are english, unless your a red

indian
you halfwit.


I have looked and thankfully, found to the contrary. In fact
the *******s killed a large number of my ancestors. Awaiting your
obvious cheap shot response.


So who are your ancestors... where did they originate from?


Ireland.

Or a Peurto Rican scumbag. The people who came into contact
with The British Empire learnt "well some of you did" how to become
civilised.


In other words, were enslaved. No thanks.


Americans enslaved blacks and nearly wiped out the Native Americans because
they wanted to take the land... the wars with the north and south,
confederates and yankies were some of the nastiest and uncivilised conflicts
in your history and you were well established as Americans at that time and
was not down to the British Empire.... i dont know where you learned your
history but wherever it was.. if it was... id sue them (hope that wasnt too
cheap a shot)


If it wasnt for the Likes of the British Empire you would be
running round in animalskin pants with a spear and live in a mud hut....

so
blow it out your ass chummy.........


You have a nice day now, you hear ...



[email protected] September 11th 05 11:15 PM

On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:37:40 +0100, "The Magnum Dickum"
wrote:


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message
...
The Magnum wrote:

Americans enslaved blacks and nearly wiped out the Native Americans

because
they wanted to take the land... the wars with the north and south,
confederates and yankies were some of the nastiest and uncivilised

conflicts
in your history and you were well established as Americans at that time

and
was not down to the British Empire.... i dont know where you learned

your
history but wherever it was.. if it was... id sue them (hope that wasnt

too
cheap a shot)



Actually, different tribes were constantly fighting, and took slaves
when they didn't just kill them. Later, they discovered that they could
sell or trade their slaves for things that they wanted with the ships
that arrived on the African coast to trade goods. A lot of those ships
were from England, and they took the slaves to other places to sell
them.

--
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


So Michael, the point you make here is that the different tribes in America
were already into slavery and used them to barter with the English for goods
and suchlike therefore making my point that slavery wasnt a result of the
good old British Colonies... They may have been involved in the
transportation of slaves for profilt but that wasnt the point. The previous
post said, or tried to imply it was the British Colonies that introduced
slavery where that simply wasnt the case.

Also most of the slaves who ended up in Britain werent treated quite as
badly in comparison although they probably didnt think so at the time.

Anyhows this has lead a little off topic as so many threads do, but its nice
to actually have a converstaion about things rather than cheap insults.
Thank you..


Read for comprehension -- he said, "ships that arrived on the
African coast". Doesn't sound to NA, does it?

Eric F. Richards September 12th 05 02:00 AM

"The Magnum" wrote:

The British police do carry guns, but only specially trained officers not
every rookie cop.


Specially trained, like that lot who killed the brazilian guy?

Some training. Don't get ID. Take a leak instead of watching your
subject. Chase him down, again without ID. Pin him to a seat in the
Tube. THEN shoot.

Sorry, I don't give a rat**** about these "my country is better than
yours" threads but do NOT give me this "Specially trained" bull****.
That was an amateur screw up, that cost an innocent man his life.


Michael A. Terrell September 12th 05 03:41 AM

The Magnum wrote:

So Michael, the point you make here is that the different tribes in America
were already into slavery and used them to barter with the English for goods
and suchlike therefore making my point that slavery wasnt a result of the
good old British Colonies... They may have been involved in the
transportation of slaves for profilt but that wasnt the point. The previous
post said, or tried to imply it was the British Colonies that introduced
slavery where that simply wasnt the case.

Also most of the slaves who ended up in Britain werent treated quite as
badly in comparison although they probably didnt think so at the time.

Anyhows this has lead a little off topic as so many threads do, but its nice
to actually have a converstaion about things rather than cheap insults.
Thank you..



The British ships that arrived on the US coast wanted cotton to take
to England. That is where they finally got paid. Then they restocked
the ship with goods for Africa and repeated the cycle. All they had when
they arrived on the shores of the US to trade their cargo was a ship
load of slaves and a few manufactured goods from England. They traded
both of them for cotton.

Only an idiot would mistreat any worker that was doing their best.
After all, if you kill all the help you won't make enough money to live,
will you? And then there were "Indentured servants" who traded a number
of years or labor for passage to the US, and were basically slaves
during that time. Legally they were the property of whoever paid their
way, till their time was up.

I never said I approved of any slavery. On the other hand there were
people of every race who were held in slavery at one time or another
throughout the history of mankind, and this still doesn't make it right
at any time.

--
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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


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