When New Orleans was "established" it wasn't below sea level. A
lot of the present day city was built below sea level. Some engineer
had the bright idea of pumping it out to extend the size of the city.
Yes, New Orleans has sunk over the past 100 or so years, along with
the levees.
Check out this USGS document:

http://dels.nas.edu/dr/docs/burkett.pdf

I see this as a college student type document to try to explain what might
happen with predicted change in patterns caused by global warming etc. Ive
seen all sorts of "expert" predictions and possible results many times and
they all seemed to have valid background theory but in reality.. like most
things on paper looked good but with no REAL SOLID proof figures, statistics
and charts can be made to say anything. The figure of 9mm subsidence per
year equates to 90cm over 100 years, or 3ft. Naff all really. I think its
more along your suggested second part where you say they pumped out the
water to expand the city then expanding it under sea level rather than the
whole place subsiding under sea level since being made. . I will do a bit
more investigating on this as its caught my imagination now and it might be
interesting to study it.
Many thanks,
Graham

From: (The=A0Magnum)
When New Orleans was "established" it

wasn't below sea level. A

lot of the present day city was built below sea

level. =A0 Some engineer had the bright idea of

pumping it out to extend the size of the city.

Yes, New Orleans has sunk over the past 100

or so years, along with the levees.
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Check out this USGS document:

http://dels.nas.edu/dr/docs/burkett.pdf

(I see this as a college student type document to try to explain what
might happen with predicted change in patterns caused by global warming
etc. Ive seen all sorts of "expert" predictions and possible results
many times and they all seemed to have valid background theory but in
reality.. like most things on paper looked good but with no REAL SOLID
proof figures, statistics and charts can be made to say anything. The
figure of 9mm subsidence per year equates to 90cm over 100 years, or
3ft. )

-
I concur with the above poster regarding the provided text. Glaciers
melt faster than that.

"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
...
From: (The Magnum)
When New Orleans was "established" it

wasn't below sea level. A

lot of the present day city was built below sea

level. Some engineer had the bright idea of

pumping it out to extend the size of the city.

Yes, New Orleans has sunk over the past 100

or so years, along with the levees.

Check out this USGS document:

http://dels.nas.edu/dr/docs/burkett.pdf

(I see this as a college student type document to try to explain what
might happen with predicted change in patterns caused by global warming
etc. Ive seen all sorts of "expert" predictions and possible results
many times and they all seemed to have valid background theory but in
reality.. like most things on paper looked good but with no REAL SOLID
proof figures, statistics and charts can be made to say anything. The
figure of 9mm subsidence per year equates to 90cm over 100 years, or
3ft. )

-
I concur with the above poster regarding the provided text. Glaciers
melt faster than that.

Looking on a few sites so far i have concluded that the original part of NO
was built above sea level whereas as it was expanded they drained out the
water after building levies so it was under sea level when built.. It
averages between 12ft above to a couple of feet below on the whole.. unless
the site i was looking at was wrong.
The thing is that studies into possible future events are just that..
studies to what might happen, often depicting the worst case scenario. You
should have seen the" Cable and Wireless experts" carefully worked out
growth of the internet. The one that made them decide to drop Hong Kong
Telecom and go with an offshore net provider... the shares were at £15 each
and after the net crash in growth (although it is rising but nothing like
these "experts" predictions) they are now worth around £1.50. So much for
the experts growth predictions there... and this was a global thing.
Governments do all kinds of surveys and projections to how things might go
and a lot of them its a great way to raise revenues whereas no one knows the
real possible outcome until it happens and then of coure its too late. Its
like the Asian Bird flu and Mad cow disease. Only a very few people have
died of so called related symptoms. Like in the 70's for us it was Rabies
coming across from europe. How many people have died from rabies?? Now
compair those figures with people who have died with drink related problems
or cancer through smoking... yet theres nothing really done to stop these
things because its a huge money maker in taxes for the government. They put
up taxes saying its to persuede many of us to give up as its too expensive..
what a load of cobblers... they put the tax there because they know they can
make a mint out of it, like alcohol tax, even car tax. They sneakily shoved
an extra £5 on it per 6 months saying it was to help out with greenhouse
gasses... complete lies.
I live on the east coast of the UK and from when i was a kid the sea level
hasnt risen at all. Surely it would have as its the North sea and were
talking about 40 years.. some predictions ive seen say it could happen in
our lifetime... yea right...
Has anyone actually stopped to consider the hole in the Ozone layer is
actually naturally occuring and if it wasnt there we would be all stifled? A
lot of the different weather conditions people are saying "it was never like
this when i was a lad" are probably forgetting what it was really like.
On the odd occasion things are going to combine to cause "freak" conditions
which do look bad. In 1953 my town was flooded and people lost their lives..
they said then it was caused by the rising sea and glaciers melting so on...
it wasnt.. it was caused by tidal conditions caused by a high moon and a
storm which hapened at the same time. Its never flooded since...
Anyways... dont be alarmed and sleep well tonight )

From: (The=A0Magnum)
"I AmnotGeorgeBush" wrote in message
... From:
(The Magnum)
When New Orleans was "established" it
wasn't below sea level. A
lot of the present day city was built below sea
level. Some engineer had the bright idea of
pumping it out to extend the size of the city.
Yes, New Orleans has sunk over the past 100
or so years, along with the levees.
Check out this USGS document:
http://dels.nas.edu/dr/docs/burkett.pdf

(I see this as a college student type document

to try to explain what might happen with

predicted change in patterns caused by global
warming etc. Ive seen all sorts of "expert"

predictions and possible results many times

and they all seemed to have valid background

theory but in reality.. like most things on paper
looked good but with no REAL SOLID proof

figures, statistics and charts can be made to

say anything. The figure of 9mm subsidence

per year equates to 90cm over 100 years, or

3ft. )
-
I concur with the above poster regarding the provided text. Glaciers
melt faster than that.

Looking on a few sites so far i have concluded
that the original part of NO was built above

sea level whereas as it was expanded they

drained out the water after building levies so it

was under sea level when built..

Yup,,that's confirmed.

It averages between 12ft above to a couple of

feet below on the whole.. unless the site i was

looking at was wrong.

The thing is that studies into possible future

events are just that.. studies to what might

happen, often depicting the worst case

scenario. You should have seen the" Cable

and Wireless experts" carefully worked out

growth of the internet. The one that made

them decide to drop Hong Kong Telecom and

go with an offshore net provider... the shares

were at =A315 each and after the net crash in

growth (although it is rising but nothing like

these "experts" predictions) they are now

worth around =A31.50.

Sort of like our breakup of the Bell system that took place years ago.
Promises of cheaper rates, but the opposite took place.



So much for the experts growth predictions

there... and this was a global thing.

No doubt,,,can you say "dot com"?

Governments do all kinds of surveys and

projections to how things might go and a lot of

them its a great way to raise revenues

whereas no one knows the real possible

outcome until it happens and then of coure its

too late. Its like the Asian Bird flu and Mad

cow disease. Only a very few people have

died of so called related symptoms.


Yea, well that number is intentionally undereported,,,at least in the
US. Officially, the CDC claims no deaths occurred here from the Bovine
plague, but that's "officially" wrong.

Like in the 70's for us it was Rabies coming

across from europe.

For us it was the Swine Flu in the seventies.

How many people have died from rabies??

Now compair those figures with people who

have died with drink related problems or

cancer through smoking... yet theres nothing

really done to stop these things because its a

huge money maker in taxes for the

government. They put up taxes saying its to

persuede many of us to give up as its too

expensive.. what a load of cobblers... they put

the tax there because they know they can

make a mint out of it, like alcohol tax, even car
tax.

US is same way.

They sneakily shoved an extra =A35 on it per 6

months saying it was to help out with

greenhouse gasses... complete lies.

I live on the east coast of the UK and from

when i was a kid the sea level hasnt risen at

all.

Actually, what we have here is a shrinkage of the shore, due to erosion.
In the north toward the pole, many villages record the shrinkage of the
polar ice cap and the yearly continual shrinkage of glaciers near where
they live.

Surely it would have as its the North sea and

were talking about 40 years.. some predictions
ive seen say it could happen in our lifetime...

yea right...


I've personally witnessed the marvel of mother nature, from earthquakes
to hurricanes, tornados and tropical storms, extreme heat and extreme
cold to forest fires started by lightning to flash floods and draughts
to dust storms. I've learned never to underestimate or second guess
mother nature. She can be your best frind and guide, but she can also
kill you like the bitch she can sometimes be.


Has anyone actually stopped to consider the

hole in the Ozone layer is actually naturally

occuring and if it wasnt there we would be all

stifled? A lot of the different weather

conditions people are saying "it was never like
this when i was a lad" are probably forgetting

what it was really like.




Probably a little of both.


On the odd occasion things are going to

combine to cause "freak" conditions which do

look bad. In 1953 my town was flooded and

people lost their lives.. they said then it was

caused by the rising sea and glaciers melting

so on... it wasnt.. it was caused by tidal

conditions caused by a high moon and a

storm which hapened at the same time.

Its never flooded since... Anyways... dont be

alarmed and sleep well tonight )


I rest easy. Type B's live much longer. Like I said,,you can't fight
mother nature, so why worry about her? All you can do is prepare ( in
some events) and not muck the earth up anymore than we have...and that's
a whole lotta muckin'! Take 'er ez.