Frank Gilliland wrote and further substantiates the "award" of title as
"liar" and "deceiver":

On 29 Oct 2005 08:54:18 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

From 03 September 1974 to 29 May 1992 I was on active duty.
Nothing else.

Oh, Dudly, how naive of you to think that nobody would find out.

Find out what, Your Lyingness?

And let's take this "standard" thing a bit further. What do you think
of a Marine who suddenly aquires a chronic medical problem that would
conveniently prevent him from serving in the first Gulf War should his
unit be called to active duty? And what if that medical problem wasn't
serious enough to prevent him from joining the CAP after being
discharged? I am not alone in thinking that Marine is a coward who
shirked his responsibilities and skated out of his oath.

Good question. Why not ask a Reservist that same question. I was
with NAMTD-1032 during DS, so it wasn't going anywhere. My only
"reserve" time were those Delayed Entry days rom April of 74 until
September 74 when I went active.


Dudly engages in damage control.....

Damage control?

You're the one with things to "patch up", Frankie.

I snipped the rest in favor of a few notes. Anyone caring to
re-read your lies can hit the browser back-button.

The first is that everyone ELSE here, with the possible excepttion
of Brain, Markie and Lennie, has to wonder what your ulterior motive is
here. Since you "arrived" only 2 months ago or so, your sole "mission"
has been to TRY and undermine my military service.

So far, it's just been lame accusations not substantiated by a
single word of fact.

I on the otherhand have given you more than enough information to
verify my service based upon YOUR claims of "who" you know and "what"
you know.

Obviously THOSE claims were lies and wanton deceit too.

As a matter of fact, when you first "arrived" in RRAP, you were
yelling "FRAUD! FRAUD!"...The problem was you were citing nothing but
LENNIE'S posts, and old ones at that. It was only after several other
folks, myself included, pointed out you had your attributions wrong
that you redirected your comments to me.

Secondly is that you are a disgraced, twice court martialed,
dishonorably discharged service member. Had you invested a TENTH of
the energy into being the Marine you SHOULD have been then, the courts
martials wouldn't have been necessary. Instead you're relagated into
tossing mistruthful allegations at those who DID serve Honorably in
order to salve your conscience.

Thirdly is your COMPLETE lack of even the remotest amateur radio
relevent content in ANY thread. Not that you'd have any as, just like
Lennie Anderson, you're all spite and bile...Any radio "operating"
experience you may have has NOTHING to do with Amateur Radio.

So...For those who care to do so, back-button to Frankie's rants
and raves and enjoy...they are just what I said they are...lies and
wanton deceit from a guy who finds it easy to be a liar...

Frank Gilliland...Disgraced coward and liar.

Period.

Steve, K4YZ

K4YZ wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote and further substantiates the "award" of title as
"liar" and "deceiver":

On 29 Oct 2005 08:54:18 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

From 03 September 1974 to 29 May 1992 I was on active duty.
Nothing else.

Oh, Dudly, how naive of you to think that nobody would find out.

Find out what, Your Lyingness?

That you were a paper soldier. No hostile actions.

And let's take this "standard" thing a bit further. What do you think
of a Marine who suddenly aquires a chronic medical problem that would
conveniently prevent him from serving in the first Gulf War should his
unit be called to active duty? And what if that medical problem wasn't
serious enough to prevent him from joining the CAP after being
discharged? I am not alone in thinking that Marine is a coward who
shirked his responsibilities and skated out of his oath.

Good question. Why not ask a Reservist that same question. I was
with NAMTD-1032 during DS, so it wasn't going anywhere. My only
"reserve" time were those Delayed Entry days rom April of 74 until
September 74 when I went active.

Dudly engages in damage control.....

Damage control?

New lies. Big snips.

You're the one with things to "patch up", Frankie.

I snipped the rest in favor of a few notes. Anyone caring to
re-read your lies can hit the browser back-button.

Like I said, "Big snips."

The first is that everyone ELSE here, with the possible excepttion
of Brain, Markie and Lennie, has to wonder what your ulterior motive is
here. Since you "arrived" only 2 months ago or so, your sole "mission"
has been to TRY and undermine my military service.

"1958 copy of This is the Air Force."

So far, it's just been lame accusations not substantiated by a
single word of fact.

Exactly your tactics.

I on the otherhand have given you more than enough information to
verify my service based upon YOUR claims of "who" you know and "what"
you know.

Where did you serve? What did you do while you were there? What of
your claims of "Seven Hostile Actions?"

Obviously THOSE claims were lies and wanton deceit too.

That's what we're trying to find out. But you just won't cooperate
because you fear something, probably the truth.

On 30 Oct 2005 05:14:50 -0800, wrote:


K4YZ wrote:
Frank Gilliland wrote and further substantiates the "award" of title as
"liar" and "deceiver":

On 29 Oct 2005 08:54:18 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

From 03 September 1974 to 29 May 1992 I was on active duty.
Nothing else.

Oh, Dudly, how naive of you to think that nobody would find out.

Find out what, Your Lyingness?

That you were a paper soldier. No hostile actions.

plenty of Hostile action just no bullets his viicous fileing of paper

And let's take this "standard" thing a bit further. What do you think
of a Marine who suddenly aquires a chronic medical problem that would
conveniently prevent him from serving in the first Gulf War should his
unit be called to active duty? And what if that medical problem wasn't
serious enough to prevent him from joining the CAP after being
discharged? I am not alone in thinking that Marine is a coward who
shirked his responsibilities and skated out of his oath.

Good question. Why not ask a Reservist that same question. I was
with NAMTD-1032 during DS, so it wasn't going anywhere. My only
"reserve" time were those Delayed Entry days rom April of 74 until
September 74 when I went active.

Dudly engages in damage control.....

Damage control?

New lies. Big snips.

You're the one with things to "patch up", Frankie.

I snipped the rest in favor of a few notes. Anyone caring to
re-read your lies can hit the browser back-button.

Like I said, "Big snips."

The first is that everyone ELSE here, with the possible excepttion
of Brain, Markie and Lennie, has to wonder what your ulterior motive is
here. Since you "arrived" only 2 months ago or so, your sole "mission"
has been to TRY and undermine my military service.

"1958 copy of This is the Air Force."

So far, it's just been lame accusations not substantiated by a
single word of fact.

Exactly your tactics.

I on the otherhand have given you more than enough information to
verify my service based upon YOUR claims of "who" you know and "what"
you know.

Where did you serve? What did you do while you were there? What of
your claims of "Seven Hostile Actions?"

Obviously THOSE claims were lies and wanton deceit too.

That's what we're trying to find out. But you just won't cooperate
because you fear something, probably the truth.

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On 30 Oct 2005 00:04:10 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
. com:


Frank Gilliland wrote and further substantiates the "award" of title as
"liar" and "deceiver":

On 29 Oct 2005 08:54:18 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

From 03 September 1974 to 29 May 1992 I was on active duty.
Nothing else.

Oh, Dudly, how naive of you to think that nobody would find out.

Find out what, Your Lyingness?


Golly, you outwitted me again, Dudly. I just don't know if I'm smart
enough to figure out all of your clever spins. Woe is me.


And let's take this "standard" thing a bit further. What do you think
of a Marine who suddenly aquires a chronic medical problem that would
conveniently prevent him from serving in the first Gulf War should his
unit be called to active duty? And what if that medical problem wasn't
serious enough to prevent him from joining the CAP after being
discharged? I am not alone in thinking that Marine is a coward who
shirked his responsibilities and skated out of his oath.

Good question. Why not ask a Reservist that same question. I was
with NAMTD-1032 during DS, so it wasn't going anywhere. My only
"reserve" time were those Delayed Entry days rom April of 74 until
September 74 when I went active.


Dudly engages in damage control.....

Damage control?


Yep.


You're the one with things to "patch up", Frankie.

I snipped the rest in favor of a few notes.


......i.e, damage control, turning away from the heat and trying to put
me on the defensive. Okay, I'll play along for a little while.....


Anyone caring to
re-read your lies can hit the browser back-button.


Anyone caring to re-read the contradictions you have made about your
military "career" can search google.


The first is that everyone ELSE here, with the possible excepttion
of Brain, Markie and Lennie, has to wonder what your ulterior motive is
here. Since you "arrived" only 2 months ago or so, your sole "mission"
has been to TRY and undermine my military service.


You need to read the archives again, Dudly, because the facts don't
agree with your statement.


So far, it's just been lame accusations not substantiated by a
single word of fact.


And your claims about your military "career" differ..... how?


I on the otherhand have given you more than enough information to
verify my service based upon YOUR claims of "who" you know and "what"
you know.


You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I have some
resources available to me that aren't available to anyone else.


Obviously THOSE claims were lies and wanton deceit too.


Nope. It's called "public records". Haven't you ever heard of credit
reports? birth, death and marriage certificates? press releases?
property and business tax records? bankruptcy filings? criminal and
civil case records? Heck, I'll bet that your high-school yearbook
picture is online. Just because these things don't come up on a google
search doesn't mean they are hidden...... you just have to know how
and where to look.


As a matter of fact, when you first "arrived" in RRAP, you were
yelling "FRAUD! FRAUD!"...The problem was you were citing nothing but
LENNIE'S posts, and old ones at that. It was only after several other
folks, myself included, pointed out you had your attributions wrong
that you redirected your comments to me.


Again, you need to re-read the archives.


Secondly is that you are a disgraced, twice court martialed,
dishonorably discharged service member.


I'm an honorably discharged Beirut vet, a member of my local VFW, a
graduate of EWU with a major in electronics engineering (specialized
degree) and a minor in communications, and a respected and productive
member of my community. I was also a BE until ClearChannel of Borg
assimilated the station, but that's another ball of wax.


Had you invested a TENTH of
the energy into being the Marine you SHOULD have been then, the courts
martials wouldn't have been necessary. Instead you're relagated into
tossing mistruthful allegations at those who DID serve Honorably in
order to salve your conscience.


There's nothing wrong with my conscience, Dudly. And my "allegations"
are quite factual, as you already know. Now if -YOU- had invested a
tenth of the time providing proof of your "career" instead of spinning
the facts and crossposting this discussion to rrcb, your last two
months of defensive posturing "wouldn't have been necessary".


Thirdly is your COMPLETE lack of even the remotest amateur radio
relevent content in ANY thread.


You mean I should stay on the topic of amateur radio policy? Should I
consider your posting history as a model of on-topic discussion?


Not that you'd have any as, just like
Lennie Anderson, you're all spite and bile...Any radio "operating"
experience you may have has NOTHING to do with Amateur Radio.


Really? Not even when I was operating my Uncle's station when I was a
kid? Or making QSLs with hams while I was on field ops? I really doubt
if you knew this, but we had this really cool rig, the MRC-110 I think
it was. Covered 2-30MHz using an old push-button portable (PRC-104)
for an exicter, a 1kW linear with a matching auto-tuner, and a huge
screw-together whip -- all packed onto a jeep. Some of us would
actually volunteer for radio watch when that beast was deployed.....

Is that "on-topic" enough for you?


So...For those who care to do so, back-button to Frankie's rants
and raves and enjoy...they are just what I said they are...lies and
wanton deceit from a guy who finds it easy to be a liar...


Assuming anybody is reading this who actually cares, I couldn't agree
mo browse the archives and see how Dudly is spinning the facts.


Frank Gilliland...Disgraced coward and liar.

Period.


Wow! Such finality! It's almost like you are the definitive expert on
cowardice and dishonesty!


Steve "Weekend Warrior" Robeson, K4YZ


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On Sun, 30 Oct 2005 10:30:03 -0800, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

On 30 Oct 2005 00:04:10 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:


Frank Gilliland wrote and further substantiates the "award" of title as
"liar" and "deceiver":

On 29 Oct 2005 08:54:18 -0700, "K4YZ" wrote in
.com:

From 03 September 1974 to 29 May 1992 I was on active duty.
Nothing else.

Oh, Dudly, how naive of you to think that nobody would find out.

Find out what, Your Lyingness?


Golly, you outwitted me again, Dudly. I just don't know if I'm smart
enough to figure out all of your clever spins. Woe is me.


And let's take this "standard" thing a bit further. What do you think
of a Marine who suddenly aquires a chronic medical problem that would
conveniently prevent him from serving in the first Gulf War should his
unit be called to active duty? And what if that medical problem wasn't
serious enough to prevent him from joining the CAP after being
discharged? I am not alone in thinking that Marine is a coward who
shirked his responsibilities and skated out of his oath.

Good question. Why not ask a Reservist that same question. I was
with NAMTD-1032 during DS, so it wasn't going anywhere. My only
"reserve" time were those Delayed Entry days rom April of 74 until
September 74 when I went active.


Dudly engages in damage control.....

Damage control?


Yep.


You're the one with things to "patch up", Frankie.

I snipped the rest in favor of a few notes.


.....i.e, damage control, turning away from the heat and trying to put
me on the defensive. Okay, I'll play along for a little while.....


Anyone caring to
re-read your lies can hit the browser back-button.


Anyone caring to re-read the contradictions you have made about your
military "career" can search google.


The first is that everyone ELSE here, with the possible excepttion
of Brain, Markie and Lennie, has to wonder what your ulterior motive is
here. Since you "arrived" only 2 months ago or so, your sole "mission"
has been to TRY and undermine my military service.


You need to read the archives again, Dudly, because the facts don't
agree with your statement.

and Stevie calls me PARANOID?


So far, it's just been lame accusations not substantiated by a
single word of fact.


And your claims about your military "career" differ..... how?

your claims are different from stevie in one very clear way.. they are
basicaly consistant, and you have cleared up any misunderstand that
develope

I on the otherhand have given you more than enough information to
verify my service based upon YOUR claims of "who" you know and "what"
you know.


You seem to be under the mistaken impression that I have some
resources available to me that aren't available to anyone else.


Obviously THOSE claims were lies and wanton deceit too.


Nope. It's called "public records". Haven't you ever heard of credit
reports? birth, death and marriage certificates? press releases?
property and business tax records? bankruptcy filings? criminal and
civil case records? Heck, I'll bet that your high-school yearbook
picture is online. Just because these things don't come up on a google
search doesn't mean they are hidden...... you just have to know how
and where to look.


As a matter of fact, when you first "arrived" in RRAP, you were
yelling "FRAUD! FRAUD!"...The problem was you were citing nothing but
LENNIE'S posts, and old ones at that. It was only after several other
folks, myself included, pointed out you had your attributions wrong
that you redirected your comments to me.


Again, you need to re-read the archives.


Secondly is that you are a disgraced, twice court martialed,
dishonorably discharged service member.


I'm an honorably discharged Beirut vet, a member of my local VFW, a
graduate of EWU with a major in electronics engineering (specialized
degree) and a minor in communications, and a respected and productive
member of my community. I was also a BE until ClearChannel of Borg
assimilated the station, but that's another ball of wax.


Had you invested a TENTH of
the energy into being the Marine you SHOULD have been then, the courts
martials wouldn't have been necessary. Instead you're relagated into
tossing mistruthful allegations at those who DID serve Honorably in
order to salve your conscience.


There's nothing wrong with my conscience, Dudly. And my "allegations"
are quite factual, as you already know. Now if -YOU- had invested a
tenth of the time providing proof of your "career" instead of spinning
the facts and crossposting this discussion to rrcb, your last two
months of defensive posturing "wouldn't have been necessary".


Thirdly is your COMPLETE lack of even the remotest amateur radio
relevent content in ANY thread.


You mean I should stay on the topic of amateur radio policy? Should I
consider your posting history as a model of on-topic discussion?


Not that you'd have any as, just like
Lennie Anderson, you're all spite and bile...Any radio "operating"
experience you may have has NOTHING to do with Amateur Radio.


Really? Not even when I was operating my Uncle's station when I was a
kid? Or making QSLs with hams while I was on field ops? I really doubt
if you knew this, but we had this really cool rig, the MRC-110 I think
it was. Covered 2-30MHz using an old push-button portable (PRC-104)
for an exicter, a 1kW linear with a matching auto-tuner, and a huge
screw-together whip -- all packed onto a jeep. Some of us would
actually volunteer for radio watch when that beast was deployed.....

Is that "on-topic" enough for you?


So...For those who care to do so, back-button to Frankie's rants
and raves and enjoy...they are just what I said they are...lies and
wanton deceit from a guy who finds it easy to be a liar...


Assuming anybody is reading this who actually cares, I couldn't agree
mo browse the archives and see how Dudly is spinning the facts.


Frank Gilliland...Disgraced coward and liar.

Period.


Wow! Such finality! It's almost like you are the definitive expert on
cowardice and dishonesty!


Steve "Weekend Warrior" Robeson, K4YZ


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