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Programbo November 29th 05 04:36 AM

Average cost of radio repair
 
What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


Vinnie S. November 29th 05 01:35 PM

Average cost of radio repair
 
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?



If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the killer. I
would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

james November 29th 05 05:11 PM

Average cost of radio repair
 
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

+What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
+(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?

*****

Most shops would be upwards to $45 just to open and diagnose the
problem. Then there is the cost of parts. Most final transistors can
easily be changed within an hour.

It would not be unreasonable to see a bill in the range of $50 to $75
for such a repair. IF you have a radio with a obsolete transistor with
hard to find stock, you can expect to pay upwards to $35 to $40 just
for the transistor.

The older Motorola power transistors are not impossible to find.
Rochester Electronics is the respository of all the obsolete Motorola
masks for ICs and transistors. They will do a wafer run to customers
who request. The main problem is you may have to buy 500 to 2000
pieces at a higher cost than original. This is way o ut of range for
almost all CB repair shops and retailers don't want to fool with this
as they are to little for profitability.

james

The Magnum November 29th 05 06:14 PM

Average cost of radio repair
 

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?



If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the killer.

I
would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.


%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now since they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham
--
_._. _... _._ ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



Steveo November 29th 05 09:43 PM

Average cost of radio repair
 
Vinnie S. wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the killer.
I would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

That seems cheap. (?)

Vinnie S. November 29th 05 10:27 PM

Average cost of radio repair
 
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:31 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?



If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the killer.

I
would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.


%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now since they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham



Correct, but I think he was getting ripped off, hence $50. I think there is a
better replacement than the 1969, but don't recall what it was. In any case, I
would do it myself.

Vinnie S.

Vinnie S. November 29th 05 10:28 PM

Average cost of radio repair
 
On 29 Nov 2005 21:43:43 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the killer.
I would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

That seems cheap. (?)



Depends. For most AM only rigs, that is more than half the cost.

Vinnie S.

Steveo November 29th 05 10:30 PM

Average cost of radio repair
 
Vinnie S. wrote:
On 29 Nov 2005 21:43:43 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown
final (Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?

If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the
killer. I would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

That seems cheap. (?)


Depends. For most AM only rigs, that is more than half the cost.

Vinnie S.

How much was it in 1969? :)

Vinnie S. November 30th 05 12:24 AM

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On 29 Nov 2005 22:30:01 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
On 29 Nov 2005 21:43:43 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown
final (Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?

If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the
killer. I would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

That seems cheap. (?)


Depends. For most AM only rigs, that is more than half the cost.

Vinnie S.

How much was it in 1969? :)


$5 !

Vinnie S.

Steveo November 30th 05 12:30 AM

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Vinnie S. wrote:
On 29 Nov 2005 22:30:01 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
On 29 Nov 2005 21:43:43 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Vinnie S. wrote:
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo"
wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown
final (Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?

If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the
killer. I would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

That seems cheap. (?)

Depends. For most AM only rigs, that is more than half the cost.

Vinnie S.

How much was it in 1969? :)


$5 !

Vinnie S.

Had to be more than that...if it was invented yet. (fallopian tubes
instead)

Volker Tonn November 30th 05 08:01 AM

Average cost of radio repair
 
Vinnie S. schrieb:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:31 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:



"Vinnie S." wrote in message
. ..


On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:



What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the killer.


I


would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.


%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now since they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham




Correct, but I think he was getting ripped off, hence $50. I think there is a
better replacement than the 1969,


So there maybe the FCC-type-acceptance will be lost ...for the rare
ones who care about... :-)


The Magnum November 30th 05 06:12 PM

Average cost of radio repair
 
Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:31 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the

killer.
I
would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.


%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now since

they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more

than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny

change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham



Correct, but I think he was getting ripped off, hence $50. I think there

is a
better replacement than the 1969, but don't recall what it was. In any

case, I
would do it myself.

Vinnie S.


Me too. Its a pretty simple job as long as you can use a soldering iron and
you have just an inkling of common sense. The New replacement for the 1969
is an ERF-2030 which is rated at 25w. It might need companion parts
depending on the set up. There's more info on this on the front page of my
website.

Regards,
Graham
--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



Chad Wahls November 30th 05 08:59 PM

Average cost of radio repair
 

"The Magnum" wrote in message
...
Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:31 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown
final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the

killer.
I
would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now since

they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more

than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny

change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham



Correct, but I think he was getting ripped off, hence $50. I think there

is a
better replacement than the 1969, but don't recall what it was. In any

case, I
would do it myself.

Vinnie S.


Me too. Its a pretty simple job as long as you can use a soldering iron
and
you have just an inkling of common sense. The New replacement for the 1969
is an ERF-2030 which is rated at 25w. It might need companion parts
depending on the set up. There's more info on this on the front page of my
website.

Regards,
Graham
--



It will need support components unless it is going into a FET based radio
with biasing tactics in place. Also note that the ERF2030 is a IRF520
available for quite cheap, the schematic for the support components is out
there. I am going to start expierimenting next week! I'll let you know how
it turns out!

Chad



Jan Panteltje November 30th 05 09:22 PM

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On a sunny day (Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:12:38 -0000) it happened "The Magnum"
wrote in
:

Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:31 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the

killer.
I
would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now since

they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more

than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny

change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham



Correct, but I think he was getting ripped off, hence $50. I think there

is a
better replacement than the 1969, but don't recall what it was. In any

case, I
would do it myself.

Vinnie S.


Me too. Its a pretty simple job as long as you can use a soldering iron and
you have just an inkling of common sense. The New replacement for the 1969
is an ERF-2030 which is rated at 25w. It might need companion parts
depending on the set up. There's more info on this on the front page of my
website.

Regards,
Graham

Yes it is simple to do, but as to tha tsoldering iron, I repaired a soundcard
for sombody (some lose part).
he then also bought a 'soldering iron', told me, nextr time I will fix this
myself ;-)
Showed me the soldering iron.. it was one of those soldering pistols....
you know the type that heats a thick wire basically to solder.
So 'soldering iron' I have a nice temerature controlled one with a lot
of tips of different shapes.... will keep your PC board and RF parts alive.
Now about that guy how used S39 as soldering flux...
;-)

Lancer December 1st 05 12:40 AM

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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:12:38 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:

Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:31 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the

killer.
I
would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now since

they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more

than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny

change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham



Correct, but I think he was getting ripped off, hence $50. I think there

is a
better replacement than the 1969, but don't recall what it was. In any

case, I
would do it myself.

Vinnie S.


Me too. Its a pretty simple job as long as you can use a soldering iron and
you have just an inkling of common sense. The New replacement for the 1969
is an ERF-2030 which is rated at 25w. It might need companion parts
depending on the set up. There's more info on this on the front page of my
website.

Regards,
Graham


Why would we trust your WEB page?

You have this statement on your WEB page:

Remember, connect a busy system as follows,
CB - Pre-amp - SWR meter - Linear - Antenna

Why would you put any SWR meter before the Amp?

If your SWR can't handle the power output of your amp, Do you think
putting it there would give you an accurate reading of the SWR on your
antenna?

In fact I just had to stop typing as I was laughing some more
just thinking about it.. lolol

Regards
Lancer

moparholic December 1st 05 06:37 AM

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Volker Tonn sucked off Vinnie S:

snipped

All you have to do to get it fixed for free is to find a ham with at
least an advanced class license. Let the queer ******* suck your dick.
The sick ass ham will fix your cb and service your
cock..............ALL FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Magnum December 1st 05 10:09 AM

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"Volker Tonn" wrote in message
...
Vinnie S. schrieb:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:31 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:



"Vinnie S." wrote in message
. ..


On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo" wrote:



What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the

killer.


I


would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.


%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now since

they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more

than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny

change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham




Correct, but I think he was getting ripped off, hence $50. I think there

is a
better replacement than the 1969,


So there maybe the FCC-type-acceptance will be lost ...for the rare
ones who care about... :-)


A valid point but if its simply changing a transistor im sure there wont be
a problem. Thenagain if its "supertuned" by Mr fiddle merchant at the same
time then that's a different story ;o)

Regards,
Graham
--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



The Magnum December 1st 05 10:10 AM

Average cost of radio repair
 

"moparholic" wrote in message
oups.com...

Volker Tonn sucked off Vinnie S:

snipped

All you have to do to get it fixed for free is to find a ham with at
least an advanced class license. Let the queer ******* suck your dick.
The sick ass ham will fix your cb and service your
cock..............ALL FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I think id rather pay for the repair ;o)

Regards,
Graham
--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



The Magnum December 1st 05 10:12 AM

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"Chad Wahls" wrote in message
...

"The Magnum" wrote in message
...
Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:31 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo"

wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown
final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the

killer.
I
would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now

since
they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a

commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more

than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny

change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham


Correct, but I think he was getting ripped off, hence $50. I think

there
is a
better replacement than the 1969, but don't recall what it was. In any

case, I
would do it myself.

Vinnie S.


Me too. Its a pretty simple job as long as you can use a soldering iron
and
you have just an inkling of common sense. The New replacement for the

1969
is an ERF-2030 which is rated at 25w. It might need companion parts
depending on the set up. There's more info on this on the front page of

my
website.

Regards,
Graham
--



It will need support components unless it is going into a FET based radio
with biasing tactics in place. Also note that the ERF2030 is a IRF520
available for quite cheap, the schematic for the support components is out
there. I am going to start expierimenting next week! I'll let you know

how
it turns out!

Chad


Hi Chad. I for one will be interested in your findings. Let us know.

Regards,
Graham

--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



The Magnum December 1st 05 10:18 AM

Average cost of radio repair
 

"Lancer" wrote in message
ews.com...
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:12:38 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:

Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:31 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo"

wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown

final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the

killer.
I
would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now

since
they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a

commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more

than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny

change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham


Correct, but I think he was getting ripped off, hence $50. I think

there
is a
better replacement than the 1969, but don't recall what it was. In any

case, I
would do it myself.

Vinnie S.


Me too. Its a pretty simple job as long as you can use a soldering iron

and
you have just an inkling of common sense. The New replacement for the

1969
is an ERF-2030 which is rated at 25w. It might need companion parts
depending on the set up. There's more info on this on the front page of

my
website.

Regards,
Graham


Why would we trust your WEB page?


You dont have to trust it. Its a pointer. If your interested do a websearch
and clarify anything you feel unsure of.

You have this statement on your WEB page:

Remember, connect a busy system as follows,
CB - Pre-amp - SWR meter - Linear - Antenna

Why would you put any SWR meter before the Amp?


Im suprised you question that. What would you think will happen if you shove
150w upwards through a cheap basic SWR meter?

If your SWR can't handle the power output of your amp, Do you think
putting it there would give you an accurate reading of the SWR on your
antenna?


No but its going to be more realistic then it pinging off the scale with
extra power going through it. If its left in line it will also cause much
greater interference than being before the linear. Think about it.

In fact I just had to stop typing as I was laughing some more
just thinking about it.. lolol
Regards
Lancer


Im glad you took the time to look at my site. How's the 23 channel radio
going ;o)

Regards,
Graham
--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



Chad Wahls December 1st 05 03:10 PM

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"The Magnum" wrote in message
...
Remember, connect a busy system as follows,
CB - Pre-amp - SWR meter - Linear - Antenna

Why would you put any SWR meter before the Amp?


Im suprised you question that. What would you think will happen if you
shove
150w upwards through a cheap basic SWR meter?

If your SWR can't handle the power output of your amp, Do you think
putting it there would give you an accurate reading of the SWR on your
antenna?



Simple, If you are running power, don't buy a cheap SWR meter. It's good to
have the meter after the amp. You will need to see the reflected power in
case the antenna is rejecting harmonics. At which point you should cease
operation.

No but its going to be more realistic then it pinging off the scale with
extra power going through it. If its left in line it will also cause much
greater interference than being before the linear. Think about it.


I could care less what SWR the amp is showing my radio in most cases. I'll
check that very occasionally. I DO CARE about overall reflected power from
the antenna. This is quite important!

Chad



Chad Wahls December 1st 05 03:10 PM

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"The Magnum" wrote in message
...
"Chad Wahls" wrote in message
...

"The Magnum" wrote in message
...
Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:14:31 -0000, "The Magnum"
wrote:


"Vinnie S." wrote in message
.. .
On 28 Nov 2005 20:36:15 -0800, "Programbo"

wrote:

What does everyone think is the going rate for replacing a blown
final
(Output transistor) in a typical CB radio at a repair shop?


If it is the 1969, the part is relatively cheap. The labor is the
killer.
I
would think it would be in the area of $50.

Vinnie S.

%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now

since
they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a

commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any
more
than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny
change...but
then again, im not a shop.

Regards,
Graham


Correct, but I think he was getting ripped off, hence $50. I think

there
is a
better replacement than the 1969, but don't recall what it was. In any
case, I
would do it myself.

Vinnie S.

Me too. Its a pretty simple job as long as you can use a soldering iron
and
you have just an inkling of common sense. The New replacement for the

1969
is an ERF-2030 which is rated at 25w. It might need companion parts
depending on the set up. There's more info on this on the front page of

my
website.

Regards,
Graham
--



It will need support components unless it is going into a FET based radio
with biasing tactics in place. Also note that the ERF2030 is a IRF520
available for quite cheap, the schematic for the support components is
out
there. I am going to start expierimenting next week! I'll let you know

how
it turns out!

Chad


Hi Chad. I for one will be interested in your findings. Let us know.

Regards,
Graham

--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



YGM

Chad



The Magnum December 1st 05 04:09 PM

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//snip//
Why would we trust your WEB page?


You dont have to trust it. Its a pointer. If your interested do a

websearch
and clarify anything you feel unsure of.

You have this statement on your WEB page:

Remember, connect a busy system as follows,
CB - Pre-amp - SWR meter - Linear - Antenna

Why would you put any SWR meter before the Amp?


Im suprised you question that. What would you think will happen if you

shove
150w upwards through a cheap basic SWR meter?


Not the point of my question, what SWR are you measuring inserting it
there?


Inserting it there you can measure the SWR of the antenna/feed and not worry
about leaving it inline and firing up the linear which might cause damage to
it. You can check the SWR before powering up the linear to make sure its
somewhere satisfactory. Its not going to be exact by any means but it will
give a reasonable guide. Also im not referring to high quality equipment,
its aimed at the beginner with basic gear to give them a broad idea.
Obviously as you get more technical you will have your own ideas. Dont
forget the other option directly under that referred to statement which was
for the more higher rated SWR/PWR meter.. ie CB pre-amp - Linear - Swr/Pwr
meter - Antenna.

If your SWR can't handle the power output of your amp, Do you think
putting it there would give you an accurate reading of the SWR on your
antenna?


No but its going to be more realistic then it pinging off the scale with
extra power going through it. If its left in line it will also cause much
greater interference than being before the linear. Think about it.


I have thought about it, Not only will it not be more realistic, the
reading will be useless for determining the SWR on your antenna. What
do you mean if you leave it in line it will cause much greater
interence? You can't leave an SWR meter connected between your amp
and antenna?


It is recommended by many that you only have the SWR meter in-line while
checking out your antenna/feed. The extra connections on your feed and the
gap where it goes un-shielded through the SWR meter means theres a greater
chance of causing interference. Put that with the fact you are shoving a
much greater power through this gap and the chances of interference go up
greatly. Are you disagreeing with this?

In fact I just had to stop typing as I was laughing some more
just thinking about it.. lolol
Regards
Lancer


Im glad you took the time to look at my site. How's the 23 channel radio
going ;o)


Doing great, as good sounding as its ever been. BTW, I do have
several other 40 channel rigs.


Then I best not chuckle on the 2-4 in case you are on one of them ;o)

Nice WEB page, lots of good info on it.. Really like all the pics of
the rigs..


Thanks for that. I was going to include a vintage section to show the 23
channel radio's and the old cooker dials. Its still in the ideas pending
pile but if I do I know who to ask for some pics of them. I was also toying
with the idea of an American rig doctor list but im not sure if it would be
a success. What do you or anyone wishing to comment think? Any other
"useful" comments off people would be gratefully received as ive got oodles
of space left but don't want to fill it with un-interesting things. Even
though the website is UK based threes a lot of FCC equipment info on there
and I have no trouble increasing this.

Regards,
Graham

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_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



The Magnum December 1st 05 04:22 PM

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"Chad Wahls" wrote in message
...

"The Magnum" wrote in message
...
Remember, connect a busy system as follows,
CB - Pre-amp - SWR meter - Linear - Antenna

Why would you put any SWR meter before the Amp?


Im suprised you question that. What would you think will happen if you
shove
150w upwards through a cheap basic SWR meter?

If your SWR can't handle the power output of your amp, Do you think
putting it there would give you an accurate reading of the SWR on your
antenna?



Simple, If you are running power, don't buy a cheap SWR meter. It's good

to
have the meter after the amp. You will need to see the reflected power in
case the antenna is rejecting harmonics. At which point you should cease
operation.

No but its going to be more realistic then it pinging off the scale with
extra power going through it. If its left in line it will also cause

much
greater interference than being before the linear. Think about it.


I could care less what SWR the amp is showing my radio in most cases.

I'll
check that very occasionally. I DO CARE about overall reflected power

from
the antenna. This is quite important!

Chad


Hi Chad,
I think unless you saw the original item on my website you wouldn't have
seen the "other" option directly under it which says for the better quality
SWR/PWR meters to go directly before the antenna. Im not sure if Lancer is
picking up on this one point and missed the next line because he was
chuckling at me chuckling at him, and yes, I also agree reflected power from
the Antenna is important especially when kicking power.
That said its amazing to me the amount of people who go on air and seem to
work reasonably well who have never even heard of a SWR meter never mind
tuned in their antenna... scary stuff.......that's one of the reasons I had
an accessory page on my website and a brief description in layman's terms of
what they are for.

Regards,
Graham

--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



Chad Wahls December 1st 05 06:08 PM

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"The Magnum" wrote in message
...

"Chad Wahls" wrote in message
...

"The Magnum" wrote in message
...



Hi Chad,
I think unless you saw the original item on my website you wouldn't have
seen the "other" option directly under it which says for the better
quality
SWR/PWR meters to go directly before the antenna. Im not sure if Lancer
is
picking up on this one point and missed the next line because he was
chuckling at me chuckling at him, and yes, I also agree reflected power
from
the Antenna is important especially when kicking power.


Ahh I can see clearly now :) Did not note that.

That said its amazing to me the amount of people who go on air and seem to
work reasonably well who have never even heard of a SWR meter never mind
tuned in their antenna... scary stuff.......that's one of the reasons I
had
an accessory page on my website and a brief description in layman's terms
of
what they are for.



Well, if they never check reflected power or don't even know what it is and
their rig blows up then I guess we could call that "natural selection."

At least we won't have to hear them :)

Chad



moparholic at hotmail dot com is a sissy December 2nd 05 06:33 PM

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the last fallopian tube mopathetic was near was his mommy's. After that
it has been ALL Vas Deferens.


moparholic at hotmail dot com is a sissy December 2nd 05 06:33 PM

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the last fallopian tube mopathetic was near was his mommy's. After that
it has been ALL Vas Deferens.


moparholic at hotmail dot com is a sissy December 2nd 05 06:34 PM

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the last fallopian tube mopathetic was near was his mommy's. After that
it has been ALL Vas Deferens.


moparholic at hotmail dot com is a sissy December 2nd 05 06:36 PM

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moparholic is totally ignorant about fixing CB's, but he LOVES the
other part of the deal. Find him weeknights at the Girard, Ohio Petro
toilet and shower area.


DrDeath December 2nd 05 10:03 PM

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You would know, afterall you clean the toilets and god knows what else
there.



iamnotabrummy December 3rd 05 12:40 PM

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"The Magnum" wrote:

"Vinnie S." wrote in message
...
I would think it would be in the area of $50.


%*&$ing hell. "how much". 1969's are getting harder to source now since they
have ceased production of them. The 2SC2078 10w transistor is a commonly
used one in the straight 40 type rigs. Even so, id not charge any more than
$25 unless there was a lot more involved than a simple tranny change...but
then again, im not a shop.


And in Birmingham it has to be cheap for the M&S vannies.


10-4 good budgie.
Buster C Brumworthy.



iamnotabrummy December 3rd 05 12:40 PM

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"The Magnum" wrote:

"moparholic" wrote in message
oups.com...

All you have to do to get it fixed for free is to find a ham with at
least an advanced class license. Let the queer ******* suck your dick.
The sick ass ham will fix your cb and service your
cock..............ALL FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I think id rather pay for the repair ;o)


Only think?
What's that you say, don't knock it until you've tried it?

10-4 good budgie.
Buster C Brumworthy.



iamnotabrummy December 3rd 05 12:40 PM

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"The Magnum" wrote:

Me too. Its a pretty simple job as long as you can use a soldering iron and
you have just an inkling of common sense. The New replacement for the 1969
is an ERF-2030 which is rated at 25w. It might need companion parts
depending on the set up. There's more info on this on the front page of my
website.


Never mind that site, check out the "blowtorch expert's guide"...
http://www.geocities.com/aarronvoobner/tuneup1.html


10-4 good budgie.
Buster C Brumworthy.



The Magnum December 3rd 05 07:13 PM

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"iamnotabrummy" wrote in message
...
"The Magnum" wrote:

"moparholic" wrote in message
oups.com...

All you have to do to get it fixed for free is to find a ham with at
least an advanced class license. Let the queer ******* suck your dick.
The sick ass ham will fix your cb and service your
cock..............ALL FOR FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I think id rather pay for the repair ;o)


Only think?
What's that you say, don't knock it until you've tried it?


Let me rephrase that. I know id rather Pay. Whilst I have completely
hetrosexual tendancies myself I have come to accept some people are gay and
thats life, the idea of having sex with another man though makes me feel
physically sick and theres no way I will be trying it. Hope you dont mind
but my ring remains a male no go zone....

10-4 good budgie.
Buster C Brumworthy.


Roger that rubber duck, over and out. QRT.

Regards,
Graham
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Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)



The Magnum December 3rd 05 07:14 PM

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The site doesn't exist??? did you type it in wrong??

Regards,
Graham

--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)

"iamnotabrummy" wrote in message
...
Never mind that site, check out the "blowtorch expert's guide"...
http://www.geocities.com/aarronvoobner/tuneup1.html




[email protected] December 4th 05 01:32 AM

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BTW, that is Peter wearing his alias cloak. Notice he is still running
away from his Brummagem past.....




The site doesn't exist??? did you type it in wrong??

Regards,
Graham

--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)

"iamnotabrummy" wrote in message
...
Never mind that site, check out the "blowtorch expert's guide"...
http://www.geocities.com/aarronvoobner/tuneup1.html





U-Know-Who December 4th 05 01:44 AM

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wrote in message
...
BTW, that is Peter wearing his alias cloak. Notice he is still running
away from his Brummagem past.....



Are the voices still in your head?





The site doesn't exist??? did you type it in wrong??

Regards,
Graham

--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)

"iamnotabrummy" wrote in message
...
Never mind that site, check out the "blowtorch expert's guide"...
http://www.geocities.com/aarronvoobner/tuneup1.html







Peter December 4th 05 09:49 AM

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"U-Know-Who" wrote...

wrote in message
...
BTW, that is Peter wearing his alias cloak. Notice he is still running
away from his Brummagem past.....



Are the voices still in your head?


He thought that was his metal fillings picking up radio signals.


Regards,

Peter.




[email protected] name December 4th 05 04:56 PM

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wrote in message
...
BTW, that is Peter wearing his alias cloak. Notice he is still running
away from his Brummagem past.....



Are the voices still in your head?




everyone knows peter writes and manages the rec.radio.cb humour pages.
If you ask him, he will not deny it, he will just say "prove it".







The site doesn't exist??? did you type it in wrong??

Regards,
Graham

--
_._. _... ._. ._ _.. .. _ _ _

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73's - Graham (www.open-channel.co.uk)

"iamnotabrummy" wrote in message
...
Never mind that site, check out the "blowtorch expert's guide"...
http://www.geocities.com/aarronvoobner/tuneup1.html







Steveo December 4th 05 06:12 PM

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wrote:
everyone knows peter writes and manages the rec.radio.cb humour pages.

If you ask him, he will not deny it, he will just say "prove it".

Really? This resoves to you, aol-tard.

http://www.geocities.com/iamnotgeorge2OO4/price.html

Didja steal it, fred garvin?


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