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james June 13th 06 05:24 PM

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On 13 Jun 2006 07:16:29 -0700, wrote:

+++'bz2' is a compressed format, it is open source, and frequently used in
+++Linux.
+++It has a higher compression ratio then for exmpel 'zip' or tgz.
+++the correct way to 'unpack' it in Linux / unix is:
+++tar -jxvf frequency_counter-0.2.1.bz2
+++In MS windows there is as far as i knwo no correct way to do anything,
+++so I
+++cannot help you there.

*****************

IZARC will open and read .BZ2 files

works well under Windoze XP SP2


james

Jan Panteltje June 13th 06 09:04 PM

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On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:39:49 -0500) it happened "PowerHouse
Communications" wrote in
:

You would only find verilog source files anyways, and then complain you
cannot read verilog (language), that posting really was on level3, you
were still on level 1.


I could really give a **** less what planet you are on, I asked a simple
question, all you had to do was answer it without your nasty attitude.

It was nice of you to provide a link, however I'd roughly guess that over
98% of the people reading this group, including the person you replied to,
does not use Linux, and therefore would have no use for the file. Oh, and
since you have a cocky attitude about you, let me return the favor... IT'S
"example", NOT "exmpel"!


Yea, but we were actually playing a game, although you may not have known
when you dropped into to it.

The issue of the game is to 'up the tech level' the top level is unlimited.

Verilog, as hardware description langue is not bound to any OS.
It is just a text format to describe how gates and other logic is connected
in a chip.

Somebody else has already explained how to unpack that file on a Billy Gates
OS.

Yea the spelling, often lots of data distortion from this planet.
noise, cracks... sssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
grin





DrDeath June 13th 06 10:01 PM

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"Bob Dobbs EC42" wrote in message
news:pan.2006.06.13.09.51.46.204000@Quetzalcoatl.. .
On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:01:33 -0500, DrDeath wrote:

Nope, if you listen with your rig set to AM and the transmission is
DSB-SC you will hear a garbled mess.


Where might one encounter such a transmission? I've never heard anything
like that on the air, oh sure there's plenty of ****ty audio out there,
but not any that becomes clear with the BFO except SSB.


From a DSB-SC tranceiver of course. They DID used to make such a critter.



If you set both rigs to AM and lower the
deadkey to say an 1/8 watt with 15 watts of swing you can understand the
low dead key rig.


I'm failing to see a distinction between what you just described and
DSBSC.


It means if you listen to DSB-SC on an AM radio it will sound like ****.




DrDeath June 13th 06 10:02 PM

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"Jan Panteltje" wrote in message
...
On a sunny day (Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:01:33 -0500) it happened "DrDeath"
wrote in :

"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
groups.com...
Yes... at least the discussion is something interesting... instead of
dougie this and dougie that... whoever dougie is... LOL

I still trying to research this topic.... since there seems to be
considerably different views of DSB-SC out here. I'm starting to think
my original statement that a very high swing AM transmission can be
considered a DSB-SC... and requires no special BFO tuning.

www.telstar-electronics.com

Nope, if you listen with your rig set to AM and the transmission is DSB-SC
you will hear a garbled mess.


Exactly!


Thank you! Obviously Bob doesn't get it yet.



james June 13th 06 10:17 PM

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On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 20:25:42 GMT, Bob Dobbs EC42
wrote:

+++On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 13:23:40 +0000, james wrote:
+++
+++ Jan
+++
+++ I don't have to go through your exercises, I am very well familiar
+++ with diode ring demodulators and various other techniques to
+++ demodulate audio in amplitude modualted sysytems. I am well aware of
+++ the trade offs in effectiveness and costs of may different aprroaches.
+++
+++ james
+++
+++Those "exercises' were meant more as ego flaunting diversions.

**********

I could really care less what their intentions were.

james

DrDeath June 13th 06 10:33 PM

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"Bob Dobbs EC42" wrote in message
news:pan.2006.06.13.21.20.39.318000@Quetzalcoatl.. .
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:02:23 -0500, DrDeath wrote:

Thank you! Obviously Bob doesn't get it yet.


Maybe not, my ego isn't so fragile as to preclude error,
but I have to admit prior to experiencing this effect,
my tendency is to cling to my beliefs.


As is true of many of us. I have found that changing a belief system to be
next to impossible.



an_old_friend June 14th 06 12:04 AM

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DrDeath wrote:

As is true of many of us. I have found that changing a belief system to be
next to impossible.


indeed you do in fact you prefer to try to beat up any fact that does
not confrom to your belief system which is of course why you have a
problem with me I do not fit your beliefs and so you refuse to accet I
exist as I am


Telstar Electronics June 14th 06 12:49 PM

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All right... let's not let this discussion deteriorate into something
like Steveo and DrDeath would participate in... LOL
The facts (or lack of) have been presented. It's up to the individual
to research this topic further and draw his (or her) own conclusion.

Frankly, I thought it was rather interesting... and if it'll make
anyone happy out there... I admit to being wrong. That said, I'm
looking forward to seeing some other interesting threads.

www.telstar-electronics.com


PowerHouse Communications June 14th 06 05:36 PM

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"Jan Panteltje" wrote in message
...
On a sunny day (Tue, 13 Jun 2006 10:39:49 -0500) it happened "PowerHouse
Communications" wrote in
:

You would only find verilog source files anyways, and then complain you
cannot read verilog (language), that posting really was on level3, you
were still on level 1.


I could really give a **** less what planet you are on, I asked a simple
question, all you had to do was answer it without your nasty attitude.

It was nice of you to provide a link, however I'd roughly guess that over
98% of the people reading this group, including the person you replied

to,
does not use Linux, and therefore would have no use for the file. Oh,

and
since you have a cocky attitude about you, let me return the favor...

IT'S
"example", NOT "exmpel"!


Yea, but we were actually playing a game, although you may not have known
when you dropped into to it.


Nope, wasn't aware of that, thanks for filling me in...

The issue of the game is to 'up the tech level' the top level is

unlimited.

Verilog, as hardware description langue is not bound to any OS.
It is just a text format to describe how gates and other logic is

connected
in a chip.


So, if I were to try "viewing" this in a text editor, I should be able to
see it? Let try...

I see where I had a problem... The decompressed file needed to be
decompressed as well. Now the folder shows it's face, with all files
within... :) I jumped the gun too soon... Got it now.. TAR archive
within a BZIP2 archive...



DrDeath June 14th 06 08:53 PM

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"Bob Dobbs EC42" wrote in message
news:pan.2006.06.14.09.55.57.604000@Quetzalcoatl.. .
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:33:44 -0500, DrDeath wrote:

"Bob Dobbs EC42" wrote in message
news:pan.2006.06.13.21.20.39.318000@Quetzalcoatl.. .
On Tue, 13 Jun 2006 16:02:23 -0500, DrDeath wrote:

Thank you! Obviously Bob doesn't get it yet.

Maybe not, my ego isn't so fragile as to preclude error, but I have to
admit prior to experiencing this effect, my tendency is to cling to my
beliefs.


As is true of many of us. I have found that changing a belief system to
be next to impossible.


You seem to have a civility that lends credence to your position. That's
why I'm interested in doing some fine tuning on my beliefs, whereas that
Panteltje fellow is too uncouth to take seriously.


Why thanks Bob, but I have lost my civility a time or two on this NG, LOL.



DrDeath June 14th 06 08:53 PM

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"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
ups.com...
All right... let's not let this discussion deteriorate into something
like Steveo and DrDeath would participate in... LOL
The facts (or lack of) have been presented. It's up to the individual
to research this topic further and draw his (or her) own conclusion.

Frankly, I thought it was rather interesting... and if it'll make
anyone happy out there... I admit to being wrong. That said, I'm
looking forward to seeing some other interesting threads.

Actually Brian, I participate and initiate many tech related threads, such
as providing you with a link to that Ameriton amp.



an_old_friend June 14th 06 08:57 PM

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DrDeath wrote:
"Telstar Electronics" wrote in message
ups.com...
All right... let's not let this discussion deteriorate into something
like Steveo and DrDeath would participate in... LOL
The facts (or lack of) have been presented. It's up to the individual
to research this topic further and draw his (or her) own conclusion.

Frankly, I thought it was rather interesting... and if it'll make
anyone happy out there... I admit to being wrong. That said, I'm
looking forward to seeing some other interesting threads.

Actually Brian, I participate and initiate many tech related threads, such
as providing you with a link to that Ameriton amp.


you also enage in the worst sort of abusive behavoirs with threats of
violence


Jan Panteltje June 14th 06 09:33 PM

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On a sunny day (Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:36:59 -0500) it happened "PowerHouse
Communications" wrote in
:
So, if I were to try "viewing" this in a text editor, I should be able to
see it? Let try...

I see where I had a problem... The decompressed file needed to be
decompressed as well. Now the folder shows it's face, with all files
within... :) I jumped the gun too soon... Got it now.. TAR archive
within a BZIP2 archive...


OK, I will explain a bit... if you look with the text editor at the file
'top.v' you will first see 'module top'
think of a module as an electronic digital circuit.

The top module is like a big diagram that is made up of all these separate
circuits, other modules, like for example 'lcd_text_driver', 'b2bcd0',
'txua0', all separate diagrams.

In this case nothing is analog, so no AD DA conversions.

You will see 'wire' for exactly what it is, wires that connect things,
OBUF IOBUF for digital buffers, and 'reg' for a register, basically one
or more flipflops....

If circuits get very large, diagrams quickly become unreadable
and difficult to modify.
Languages like Verilog make it easy to maintain and design large complicated
digital circuits, and are portable across many platforms (schematic editors
are not).
In an FPGA (Field Programmable Gate Array) many CMOS switches are used
to connect all sorts of logic blocks together.
There exist (free) programs that read the Verilog text files, create
a binary file for some FPGA chip, that you can then program into such a chip,
and the chip will set the switches, your Verilog design will be created
in the chip *without you soldering one single connection*.
The Spartan2 FPGA I used has has the equivalent of some 200,000 logic gates,
so quite a lot can be done.
There are many free projects look for example he
http://www.opencores.org/browse.cgi/by_category

http://www.fpga4fun.com/

There are many of those prototype boards, best get one with VGA connector
and audio stuff, the relevant newsgroup is comp.arch.fpga.
But it is only limited by ones own imagination....

So that was some more ...
Will throttle back a bit now and see what he effect of this is.....







James Crow June 14th 06 10:27 PM

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"Jan Panteltje"

SNIP

Jeeze...jan......you're such a bore!



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an old freind June 14th 06 10:29 PM

get help
 

James Crow wrote:
"Jan Panteltje"

SNIP

Jeeze...jan......you're such a bore!

why do you find it desriable to spread out your filth over another NG


DrDeath June 14th 06 10:44 PM

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"James Crow" wrote in message
...
"Jan Panteltje"

SNIP

Jeeze...jan......you're such a bore!


I guess it is boring when you are unable to comprehend the subject matter.
Don't you have trolling to do on RRAP?



James Crow June 14th 06 11:48 PM

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"DrDeath" wrote in message
snip

thats funny dr deadass, you dumb usenet troll.very telling how much you and
the gay-tard have in common.




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DrDeath June 14th 06 11:52 PM

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"James Crow" wrote in message
...

"DrDeath" wrote in message
snip

thats funny dr deadass, you dumb usenet troll.very telling how much you
and the gay-tard have in common.


Funny how you bring up gay issues with every post, must be a regressed
desire on your part.



James Crow June 15th 06 12:00 AM

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"DrDeath" wrote in message
fag filtered
yep, funny,.......the funniest part is you and the tard spreading your
pro-homosexual agenda all over usenet. you sick freak.



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[email protected] June 15th 06 12:06 AM

get help
 

DrDeath wrote:
"James Crow" wrote in message
...

"DrDeath" wrote in message
snip

thats funny dr deadass, you dumb usenet troll.very telling how much you
and the gay-tard have in common.


Funny how you bring up gay issues with every post, must be a regressed
desire on your part.


the word is repressed Dr


DrDeath June 15th 06 12:18 AM

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"James Crow" wrote in message
...
"DrDeath" wrote in message
fag filtered
yep, funny,.......the funniest part is you and the tard spreading your
pro-homosexual agenda all over usenet. you sick freak.

You need to do your homework dumbass. I have never approved of same sex
relations. Learn how to use Google then post something that won't make you
look like the ass that you are.



James Crow June 15th 06 12:31 AM

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"DrDeath" wrote in message
fag filtered

you are dumber than i thought.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...arch?q=DrDeath
did not read them all, but did get to the stupid crap you posted about your
own kid. you sick ****.




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an Old friend June 15th 06 12:34 AM

get help
 

James Crow wrote:
"DrDeath" wrote in message
fag filtered

you are dumber than i thought.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...arch?q=DrDeath
did not read them all, but did get to the stupid crap you posted about your
own kid. you sick ****.

in fairness to the Dr that was the work of one of the many troling
forgers on Usenet

but if you are going to flame the Dr please do in cb


DrDeath June 15th 06 12:47 AM

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"James Crow" wrote in message
...

"DrDeath" wrote in message
fag filtered

you are dumber than i thought.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.r...arch?q=DrDeath
did not read them all, but did get to the stupid crap you posted about
your own kid. you sick ****.

You need to look at the headers you dumbass, those were forgeries, or do you
know how to check headers? I forgot I'm dealing with someone that has the IQ
of a fly.



James Crow June 15th 06 01:11 AM

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"DrDeath" wrote in message

oh wait, i see. now you're the victim. no wonder you and the tard are so
close.



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an Old friend June 15th 06 01:16 AM

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James Crow wrote:
"DrDeath" wrote in message

oh wait, i see. now you're the victim. no wonder you and the tard are so
close.


he is no victum he got tthe treatement he sdeserved but he ust did nt
post what you think


DrDeath June 15th 06 01:32 AM

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"James Crow" wrote in message
...

Oh, BTW, with a nic like Jim Crow tells me all I need to know about you.
plonk



James Crow June 15th 06 01:34 AM

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"DrDeath" wrote in message

another funny thing is for some unknown reason you are always not very far
from the gay posts.
usenet is full of trash like you. you post your vile spew then can't
understand why no one here takes you seriously. you're a little troll, thats
all.
the fact you brought your family into this **** speaks volumes about you.



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James Crow June 15th 06 01:41 AM

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"DrDeath"

plonk, uhhhhh

why is it that means something different to you than the rest of us??
you stupid queer.



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an Old friend June 15th 06 01:51 AM

get help
 

James Crow wrote:
"DrDeath"

plonk, uhhhhh

why is it that means something different to you than the rest of us??
you stupid queer.

he is legend in his own mind



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