In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?

What does writting software have to do with ham radio?

bill

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"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?

What does writting software have to do with ham radio?


There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.

Charles. N5PVL

"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?

What does writting software have to do with ham radio?


There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.

Charles. N5PVL

I append a short article to help you.

"Bob Bob" wrote in message
news
How is this relevent to the original posters question?
Pls point to a reference and definition of a _REAL_ Radio Ham...
Airy R. Bean wrote:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
"tjw" wrote in message
...
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the
website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?

What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

I append a short article to help you.

"Bob Bob" wrote in message
news
How is this relevent to the original posters question?
Pls point to a reference and definition of a _REAL_ Radio Ham...
Airy R. Bean wrote:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
"tjw" wrote in message
...
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the
website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?

What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!

The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.

Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?

"Charles Brabham" wrote in message
m...
"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
What does writting software have to do with ham radio?
There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take
away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.

The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.

Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?

"Charles Brabham" wrote in message
m...
"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
What does writting software have to do with ham radio?
There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take
away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.

In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.

Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?

Well, I have been back reading the amateur radio newsgroups for
only about two weeks after abandoning them quite some time ago.
I see nothing has changed. I have better things to do with my
time.

bill
KB3YV (formerly N2APY, DA1WO)


"Charles Brabham" wrote in message
m...
"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
What does writting software have to do with ham radio?
There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take
away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.



--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
| and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include std.disclaimer.h

In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.

Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?

Well, I have been back reading the amateur radio newsgroups for
only about two weeks after abandoning them quite some time ago.
I see nothing has changed. I have better things to do with my
time.

bill
KB3YV (formerly N2APY, DA1WO)


"Charles Brabham" wrote in message
m...
"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
What does writting software have to do with ham radio?
There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take
away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.



--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
| and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include std.disclaimer.h

From: "Airy R. Bean"
Date: 7/6/2004 12:47 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

As you can see, this message actually came from uni-berlin.de, so this 'person'
is a troll and probably a kid.

Hey kid, what language do you program in? Are you a real programmer? (The
answer is no, because until you get out of school, you don't get paid to write
code.) So you're not a real programmer, just a kid.