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tjw July 5th 04 06:03 PM

where to get wintone software?
 
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?
Tom

Bob Bob July 5th 04 08:46 PM

http://www.personainternet.com/~northscan/files.html

Google...

tjw wrote:
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?
Tom


Bob Bob July 5th 04 08:46 PM

http://www.personainternet.com/~northscan/files.html

Google...

tjw wrote:
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?
Tom


Airy R. Bean July 6th 04 08:51 AM

How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?

"tjw" wrote in message
...
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?




Airy R. Bean July 6th 04 08:51 AM

How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?

"tjw" wrote in message
...
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?




Bob Bob July 6th 04 10:24 AM

How is this relevent to the original posters question?

Pls point to a reference and definition of a _REAL_ Radio Ham...

Airy R. Bean wrote:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?

"tjw" wrote in message
...

Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?





Bob Bob July 6th 04 10:24 AM

How is this relevent to the original posters question?

Pls point to a reference and definition of a _REAL_ Radio Ham...

Airy R. Bean wrote:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?

"tjw" wrote in message
...

Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?





Charles Brabham July 6th 04 10:56 AM


"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?


Pretty silly stuff there, "Airy".

Charles, N5PVL





Charles Brabham July 6th 04 10:56 AM


"Airy R. Bean" wrote in message
...
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?


Pretty silly stuff there, "Airy".

Charles, N5PVL





Bill Gunshannon July 6th 04 12:56 PM

In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?


What does writting software have to do with ham radio?

bill

--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
| and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include std.disclaimer.h

Bill Gunshannon July 6th 04 12:56 PM

In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?


What does writting software have to do with ham radio?

bill

--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
| and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include std.disclaimer.h

Charles Brabham July 6th 04 02:18 PM


"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?


What does writting software have to do with ham radio?


There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.

Charles. N5PVL



Charles Brabham July 6th 04 02:18 PM


"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?


What does writting software have to do with ham radio?


There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.

Charles. N5PVL



Airy R. Bean July 6th 04 06:45 PM

I append a short article to help you.

"Bob Bob" wrote in message
...
How is this relevent to the original posters question?
Pls point to a reference and definition of a _REAL_ Radio Ham...
Airy R. Bean wrote:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
"tjw" wrote in message
...
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the

website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?


What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!



Airy R. Bean July 6th 04 06:45 PM

I append a short article to help you.

"Bob Bob" wrote in message
...
How is this relevent to the original posters question?
Pls point to a reference and definition of a _REAL_ Radio Ham...
Airy R. Bean wrote:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
"tjw" wrote in message
...
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the

website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?


What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!



Airy R. Bean July 6th 04 06:47 PM

The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.

Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?

"Charles Brabham" wrote in message
m...
"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?

What does writting software have to do with ham radio?

There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take

away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.




Airy R. Bean July 6th 04 06:47 PM

The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.

Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?

"Charles Brabham" wrote in message
m...
"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?

What does writting software have to do with ham radio?

There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take

away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.




Bill Gunshannon July 6th 04 07:37 PM

In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.

Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?


Well, I have been back reading the amateur radio newsgroups for
only about two weeks after abandoning them quite some time ago.
I see nothing has changed. I have better things to do with my
time.

bill
KB3YV (formerly N2APY, DA1WO)


"Charles Brabham" wrote in message
m...
"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
What does writting software have to do with ham radio?

There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take

away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.




--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
| and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include std.disclaimer.h

Bill Gunshannon July 6th 04 07:37 PM

In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.

Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?


Well, I have been back reading the amateur radio newsgroups for
only about two weeks after abandoning them quite some time ago.
I see nothing has changed. I have better things to do with my
time.

bill
KB3YV (formerly N2APY, DA1WO)


"Charles Brabham" wrote in message
m...
"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
What does writting software have to do with ham radio?

There is some connection there. Admittedly, the idea that you have to be a
programmer to be a "real ham" is pretty stupid, but that does not take

away
from the fact that many good hams are programmers.




--
Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves
| and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.
University of Scranton |
Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include std.disclaimer.h

Hamhtr July 6th 04 09:15 PM

From: "Airy R. Bean"
Date: 7/6/2004 12:47 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:


As you can see, this message actually came from uni-berlin.de, so this 'person'
is a troll and probably a kid.

Hey kid, what language do you program in? Are you a real programmer? (The
answer is no, because until you get out of school, you don't get paid to write
code.) So you're not a real programmer, just a kid.

Hamhtr July 6th 04 09:15 PM

From: "Airy R. Bean"
Date: 7/6/2004 12:47 PM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:


As you can see, this message actually came from uni-berlin.de, so this 'person'
is a troll and probably a kid.

Hey kid, what language do you program in? Are you a real programmer? (The
answer is no, because until you get out of school, you don't get paid to write
code.) So you're not a real programmer, just a kid.

D. Strang July 6th 04 10:46 PM

"Airy R. Bean" wrote
The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.


Bull****. The spirit is to have fun, something you are obviously
missing with the level of mental retardation you are displaying here.

Anything else is CB Radio


If you're not having fun, then why not find a new hobby?



D. Strang July 6th 04 10:46 PM

"Airy R. Bean" wrote
The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.


Bull****. The spirit is to have fun, something you are obviously
missing with the level of mental retardation you are displaying here.

Anything else is CB Radio


If you're not having fun, then why not find a new hobby?



Butch July 7th 04 12:44 AM

Well Duh on me. My son and I did a father/son project some 25 years ago
and all this time I thought I was a real radio ham. Is there another
type of Ham other than a real radio Ham? That is the only type of Ham
you ever mention is a "real radio Ham". I must be what ever is left on
your list of "Hams", I surly can't design and build anything close to
the equipment I operate, my son can't either, but then he is only a
computer engineer, not a real Ham engineer. Actually, I can't design
any real ham equipment. I did copy and build a keyer out of QST that a
real radio Ham designed and built, and a Ten Tec 40 meter QRP
transceiver, but alas, it was a kit. A real radio Ham person designed
that beautifull thing and all I did was put it together following some
very easy step-by-step instructions provided. But I tell you I felt
like it's proud father when it worked when I tried it out! When I get
to heaven perhaps Jesus will be my Elmer and help me become a real radio
Ham. I sure love this hobby. I just hate that I'm sooo,....DUH!

Butch KF5DE

Airy R. Bean wrote:
I append a short article to help you.

"Bob Bob" wrote in message
...

How is this relevent to the original posters question?
Pls point to a reference and definition of a _REAL_ Radio Ham...
Airy R. Bean wrote:

How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
"tjw" wrote in message
...

Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the


website

and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?



What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!




Butch July 7th 04 12:44 AM

Well Duh on me. My son and I did a father/son project some 25 years ago
and all this time I thought I was a real radio ham. Is there another
type of Ham other than a real radio Ham? That is the only type of Ham
you ever mention is a "real radio Ham". I must be what ever is left on
your list of "Hams", I surly can't design and build anything close to
the equipment I operate, my son can't either, but then he is only a
computer engineer, not a real Ham engineer. Actually, I can't design
any real ham equipment. I did copy and build a keyer out of QST that a
real radio Ham designed and built, and a Ten Tec 40 meter QRP
transceiver, but alas, it was a kit. A real radio Ham person designed
that beautifull thing and all I did was put it together following some
very easy step-by-step instructions provided. But I tell you I felt
like it's proud father when it worked when I tried it out! When I get
to heaven perhaps Jesus will be my Elmer and help me become a real radio
Ham. I sure love this hobby. I just hate that I'm sooo,....DUH!

Butch KF5DE

Airy R. Bean wrote:
I append a short article to help you.

"Bob Bob" wrote in message
...

How is this relevent to the original posters question?
Pls point to a reference and definition of a _REAL_ Radio Ham...
Airy R. Bean wrote:

How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
"tjw" wrote in message
...

Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the


website

and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?



What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!




jeannette July 7th 04 01:28 AM

I don't see anywhere there where it says that a REAL radio ham can
write software..

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:45:40 +0100, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:

I append a short article to help you.

"Bob Bob" wrote in message
...
How is this relevent to the original posters question?
Pls point to a reference and definition of a _REAL_ Radio Ham...
Airy R. Bean wrote:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
"tjw" wrote in message
...
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the

website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?


What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!


Jeannette
aa6jh
Bristol 32, San Francisco
http://www.eblw.com/contepartiro/contepartiro.html

jeannette July 7th 04 01:28 AM

I don't see anywhere there where it says that a REAL radio ham can
write software..

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 18:45:40 +0100, "Airy R. Bean"
wrote:

I append a short article to help you.

"Bob Bob" wrote in message
...
How is this relevent to the original posters question?
Pls point to a reference and definition of a _REAL_ Radio Ham...
Airy R. Bean wrote:
How about being a _REAL_ Radio Ham and writing the
software for yourself?
"tjw" wrote in message
...
Where is a good web site to get wintone decoder software? All the

website
and links I tried will not work. Are thhey all shut down?


What is Ham Radio?

Ham Radio is a technical pursuit for those who
are interested in the science of radio wave
propagation and who are also interested in the
way that their radios function. It has a long-standing
tradition of providing a source of engineers who
are born naturals.

Ham Radio awakens in its aficionados a whole-life
fascination with all things technical and gives
an all-abiding curiosity to improve one's scientific
knowledge. It's a great swimming pool, please dive in!

This excitement causes a wish to share the experience
with ones fellow man, and shows itself in the
gentlemanly traditions of Ham Radio.

Radio Hams are qualified to design, build and then
operate their own pieces of equipment. They do this
with gusto, and also repair and modify their own
equipment.

The excitement that drives a Radio Ham starts with
relatively simple technologies at first, perhaps making
his own Wimshurst machine and primary cells. Small pieces
of test equipment follow, possibly multimeters and signal
generators. Then comes receivers and transmitters. It is with
the latter that communication with like-minded technically
motivated people takes off. The scope for technical
development grows with the years
and now encompasses DSP and DDS. There is also a great deal
of excitement in the areas of computer programming to
be learnt and applied.

The technical excitement motivates Radio Hams to compete
with each other to determine who has designed and manufactured
the best-quality station. This competitiveness is found in DXing,
competitions and fox-hunts.

-----OOOOO----

However, beware! A Ham Radio licence is such a
desirable thing to have that there are large
numbers of people who wish to be thought of
as Radio Hams when, in fact, they are nothing
of the kind! Usually such people are a
variation of the CB Radio hobbyist; they buy their
radios off the shelf and send them back to be
repaired; they are not interested in technical discussion
and sneer at those who are; they have no idea how
their radios work inside and have no wish to find out;
they are free with rather silly personal insults;
they have not satisfied any technical qualification
and their licences prevent the use of
self-designed-and-built equipment.

These CB types engage in the competitive activities
with their Cheque-Book-purchased off-the-shelf radios
in a forlorn effort to prove that they are Radio Hams.

No _REAL_ Radio Hams are deceived by such people!


Jeannette
aa6jh
Bristol 32, San Francisco
http://www.eblw.com/contepartiro/contepartiro.html

Dr. Anton T. Squeegee July 7th 04 04:11 AM

In article , says...

In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.

Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?


Well, I have been back reading the amateur radio newsgroups for
only about two weeks after abandoning them quite some time ago.
I see nothing has changed. I have better things to do with my
time.


snip

It can still be a helpful resource with a little help from your
newsreader's filter file.

In other words, don't let the Beaner, or any of the other rude
posters, upset you. Usenet is as full of kooks and trolls today as it
was when it came into being (probably more so, actually). This group is
no exception.

73 de KC7GR


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm --
www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"

Dr. Anton T. Squeegee July 7th 04 04:11 AM

In article , says...

In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.

Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham

Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?


Well, I have been back reading the amateur radio newsgroups for
only about two weeks after abandoning them quite some time ago.
I see nothing has changed. I have better things to do with my
time.


snip

It can still be a helpful resource with a little help from your
newsreader's filter file.

In other words, don't let the Beaner, or any of the other rude
posters, upset you. Usenet is as full of kooks and trolls today as it
was when it came into being (probably more so, actually). This group is
no exception.

73 de KC7GR


--
Dr. Anton T. Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute.
(Known to some as Bruce Lane, ARS KC7GR,
kyrrin (a/t) bluefeathertech[d=o=t]calm --
www.bluefeathertech.com
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped
with surreal ports?"

Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:39 AM

Better things? Playing with your CB set, perhaps?

10-4, Good Buddy!

"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.
Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham
Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?

Well, I have been back reading the amateur radio newsgroups for
only about two weeks after abandoning them quite some time ago.
I see nothing has changed. I have better things to do with my
time.




Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:39 AM

Better things? Playing with your CB set, perhaps?

10-4, Good Buddy!

"Bill Gunshannon" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Airy R. Bean" writes:
The spirit of Ham Radio is doing the technical things for
yourself.
Anything else is CB Radio, perhaps in its insidious form of
the CBer-Masquerading-As-A-Radio-Ham
Perhaps those who replied below are closet CBers - did they
buy their rigs off-the-shelf and do they send them back to be repaired?

Well, I have been back reading the amateur radio newsgroups for
only about two weeks after abandoning them quite some time ago.
I see nothing has changed. I have better things to do with my
time.




Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:40 AM

And KC7GR is no exception.

"Dr. Anton T. Squeegee" wrote in message
...
Usenet is as full of kooks and trolls today as it
was when it came into being (probably more so, actually). This group is
no exception.
73 de KC7GR




Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:40 AM

And KC7GR is no exception.

"Dr. Anton T. Squeegee" wrote in message
...
Usenet is as full of kooks and trolls today as it
was when it came into being (probably more so, actually). This group is
no exception.
73 de KC7GR




Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:42 AM

I think that if there is any trolling being done, it is being
done by the rather infantile and silly escapee from the
school playground who is being quoted below?

Perhaps she or he is a closet CBer who is furious at
being outed?

"Hamhtr" wrote in message
...
As you can see, this message actually came from uni-berlin.de, so this

'person'
is a troll and probably a kid.
Hey kid, what language do you program in? Are you a real programmer? (The
answer is no, because until you get out of school, you don't get paid to

write
code.) So you're not a real programmer, just a kid.




Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:42 AM

I think that if there is any trolling being done, it is being
done by the rather infantile and silly escapee from the
school playground who is being quoted below?

Perhaps she or he is a closet CBer who is furious at
being outed?

"Hamhtr" wrote in message
...
As you can see, this message actually came from uni-berlin.de, so this

'person'
is a troll and probably a kid.
Hey kid, what language do you program in? Are you a real programmer? (The
answer is no, because until you get out of school, you don't get paid to

write
code.) So you're not a real programmer, just a kid.




Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:43 AM

Ham Radio has traditions of gentlemanly behaviour.

CBers reveal themselves every time that they use the keyboard.....

"D. Strang" wrote in message
news:G3FGc.4282$r3.3548@okepread03...
Bull****. The spirit is to have fun, something you are obviously
missing with the level of mental retardation you are displaying here.
If you're not having fun, then why not find a new hobby?




Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:43 AM

Ham Radio has traditions of gentlemanly behaviour.

CBers reveal themselves every time that they use the keyboard.....

"D. Strang" wrote in message
news:G3FGc.4282$r3.3548@okepread03...
Bull****. The spirit is to have fun, something you are obviously
missing with the level of mental retardation you are displaying here.
If you're not having fun, then why not find a new hobby?




Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:44 AM

Butch - you've the makings of being a _REAL_ Radio Ham.

Well done there!

"Butch" wrote in message
...
Well Duh on me. My son and I did a father/son project some 25 years ago
and all this time I thought I was a real radio ham. Is there another
type of Ham other than a real radio Ham? That is the only type of Ham
you ever mention is a "real radio Ham". I must be what ever is left on
your list of "Hams", I surly can't design and build anything close to
the equipment I operate, my son can't either, but then he is only a
computer engineer, not a real Ham engineer. Actually, I can't design
any real ham equipment. I did copy and build a keyer out of QST that a
real radio Ham designed and built, and a Ten Tec 40 meter QRP
transceiver, but alas, it was a kit. A real radio Ham person designed
that beautifull thing and all I did was put it together following some
very easy step-by-step instructions provided. But I tell you I felt
like it's proud father when it worked when I tried it out! When I get
to heaven perhaps Jesus will be my Elmer and help me become a real radio
Ham. I sure love this hobby. I just hate that I'm sooo,....DUH!




Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:44 AM

Butch - you've the makings of being a _REAL_ Radio Ham.

Well done there!

"Butch" wrote in message
...
Well Duh on me. My son and I did a father/son project some 25 years ago
and all this time I thought I was a real radio ham. Is there another
type of Ham other than a real radio Ham? That is the only type of Ham
you ever mention is a "real radio Ham". I must be what ever is left on
your list of "Hams", I surly can't design and build anything close to
the equipment I operate, my son can't either, but then he is only a
computer engineer, not a real Ham engineer. Actually, I can't design
any real ham equipment. I did copy and build a keyer out of QST that a
real radio Ham designed and built, and a Ten Tec 40 meter QRP
transceiver, but alas, it was a kit. A real radio Ham person designed
that beautifull thing and all I did was put it together following some
very easy step-by-step instructions provided. But I tell you I felt
like it's proud father when it worked when I tried it out! When I get
to heaven perhaps Jesus will be my Elmer and help me become a real radio
Ham. I sure love this hobby. I just hate that I'm sooo,....DUH!




Airy R. Bean July 7th 04 08:45 AM

A _REAL_ Radio Ham has the spirit to tackle and be effective
in any technology that is germane to her station.

"jeannette" wrote in message
...
I don't see anywhere there where it says that a REAL radio ham can
write software..





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