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an_old_friend wrote:
I never get an answer to just what good Morse code would be in this doomday world. 1) It keeps some of us busy, doing our favorite thing 2) It makes it possible for some people to communicate with others, even when they don't have the motor skills to do so in the first place 3) It allows you to reach longer than any other form of HF communication 4) It will come in handy it *that* ever happens and so on -- 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com |
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Sigurd Stenersen wrote: an_old_friend wrote: Sigurd Stenersen wrote: Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote: Morse is dead...hang it up! I don't know your reasoning for making a statement like that, but no matter what it is it applies to ham radio in general. What do you need ham radio for in the first place ? A cell phone is all you need to talk to anybody, anywhere, anytime. Morse is more properly moribund but Morse is not the the whole of Ham radio Yes... And... So ? you reasoning is clearly flawed saying Morse is dead has nothing to do with the rest of your wordage -- 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com |
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Sigurd Stenersen wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I never get an answer to just what good Morse code would be in this doomday world. 1) It keeps some of us busy, doing our favorite thing fiddling while rome burn nero 2) It makes it possible for some people to communicate with others, even when they don't have the motor skills to do so in the first place 3) It allows you to reach longer than any other form of HF communication plain flase or at best incomplete Morse encoded CW does not allowed a greater range than say Heilshrieber would 4) It will come in handy it *that* ever happens how? still waiting for an answer to the question, asked many times and many ways I'll try another how will Morse be able to deliver anything of objective value if the world is so far gone that morse encoded cw was ALL there was and so on -- 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com |
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an old friend wrote:
still waiting for an answer to the question, asked many times and many ways I'll try another how will Morse be able to deliver anything of objective value if the world is so far gone that morse encoded cw was ALL there was Who gives a hoot ? Get a life... 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com |
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I don't know dude.. use your imagination. Do I have to write a
post-apocalyptic story for you? Ok, let's say that a big ass asteroid hit the earth and blew up a lot of ****, wiped out all the telecommunications stuff and there were only pockets of people left, scattered all over. You rip a battery out of a car and power up your HF rig, hoist up a simple antenna and start beaming **** as far out as you can. Maybe the atmosphere is so ****ed by the crap in the air that voice is totally garbled, or maybe the only people are 10000 miles away and you can barely reach them with your ****ty antenna. Or maybe they don't even speak your language but can understand some rudimentary morse stuff. Who knows? I'm obviously not saying this situation is at all likely, but it and others are certainly possible. Would I spend my time learning code for this possibility? No, but I can understand that some people might. "an old friend" wrote in message ups.com... Sigurd Stenersen wrote: an_old_friend wrote: I never get an answer to just what good Morse code would be in this doomday world. 1) It keeps some of us busy, doing our favorite thing fiddling while rome burn nero 2) It makes it possible for some people to communicate with others, even when they don't have the motor skills to do so in the first place 3) It allows you to reach longer than any other form of HF communication plain flase or at best incomplete Morse encoded CW does not allowed a greater range than say Heilshrieber would 4) It will come in handy it *that* ever happens how? still waiting for an answer to the question, asked many times and many ways I'll try another how will Morse be able to deliver anything of objective value if the world is so far gone that morse encoded cw was ALL there was and so on -- 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:28:15 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote: Oh, I don't think your little example makes my characterization "baseless." But it does looks as though I tweaked some people by calling their choice of study a waste of time. Studying Latin has done more for my English composition than any English class I ever took. Your characterization is baseless. Oooohhhhhhh -- a tweaker. Is that the best you have to occupy your useless life? |
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote: Jerseyj wrote: Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version! Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being paid... One user reported that the executable runs just fine on Linux under the WINE emulator, tho. 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com If you published the source under the GPL, you might find a few people interested in porting it to a real OS. I wouldn't dare install DirectX on any computer with a NIC, but don't have any use for a box without one. Bob McConnell N2SPP |
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On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:37:45 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote: I don't know dude.. use your imagination. Do I have to write a post-apocalyptic story for you? Ok, let's say that a big ass asteroid hit the earth and blew up a lot of ****, wiped out all the telecommunications stuff and there were only pockets of people left, scattered all over. You rip a battery out of a car and power up your HF rig, hoist up a simple antenna and start beaming **** as far out as you can. Maybe the atmosphere is so ****ed by the crap in the air that voice is totally garbled, or maybe the only people are 10000 miles away and you can barely reach them with your ****ty antenna. Or maybe they don't even speak your language but can understand some rudimentary morse stuff. Who knows? I'm obviously not saying this situation is at all likely, but it and others are certainly possible. Would I spend my time learning code for this possibility? No, but I can understand that some people might. Wow, "On the Beach", huh. :-) |
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Sigurd Stenersen wrote: an old friend wrote: still waiting for an answer to the question, asked many times and many ways I'll try another how will Morse be able to deliver anything of objective value if the world is so far gone that morse encoded cw was ALL there was Who gives a hoot ? obviously yourself Get a life... I have one 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com |
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Falky foo wrote: I don't know dude.. use your imagination. Do I have to write a post-apocalyptic story for you? Ok, let's say that a big ass asteroid hit the earth and blew up a lot of ****, wiped out all the telecommunications stuff and there were only pockets of people left, scattered all over. You rip a battery out of a car and power up your HF rig, hoist up a simple antenna and start beaming **** as far out as you can. Maybe the atmosphere is so ****ed by the crap in the air that voice is totally garbled, or maybe the only people are 10000 miles away and you can barely reach them with your ****ty antenna. Or maybe they don't even speak your language but can understand some rudimentary morse stuff. Who knows? and just what is this "commincation going to achieve? I'm obviously not saying this situation is at all likely, but it and others are certainly possible. Would I spend my time learning code for this possibility? No, but I can understand that some people might. your imagination exceeds mine obviously |
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You really shouldn't show your ignorance in such a public forum Wayne.
Dan/W4NTI "Wayne P. Muckleroy" wrote in message . .. Morse is dead...hang it up! "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message ... I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code, and have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the code. The program can be downloaded from http://justlearnmorsecode.com If you like the program, please make the URL known to the members of your club and anybody else that might be interested. Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome. 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd |
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Gee Wayne....with your standard I reckon you need to dump that Lead Acid
Battery, it was designed way back in the 20th century. And that antiquated Telephone got to go too. Heck, AM radio and FM radio needs to go too. And Television with all that old Analog stuff....Hey how about that internal combustion engine too? Wayne baby....just because it is old, does not mean it is not useful. Have a good day. Dan/W4NTI "Wayne P. Muckleroy" wrote in message . .. antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a miracle that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and (slowly) communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of spark generators were invented and we were really advanced because we could lose the wire sets and communicate across the big pond. I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the importance of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time in here. However, if I need to order a pizza on my way home from work, I don't pull out my HT and patch into the local pizzeria. I use my cell phone of course. But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously, the cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my key and start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal contact via an HF mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could find other modes to use that are almost as efficient as Morse. If all else fails, I could hook up my lap-top, and let it do all the work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the off chance my lap-top is dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me to 20, 40, 60 wpm. I have much more important things to do with my time than practice this dead language. Wayne- (KC8UIO) co communicatio "Has" wrote in message ... "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message ... Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote: "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code, and have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the code. The program can be downloaded from http://justlearnmorsecode.com If you like the program, please make the URL known to the members of your club and anybody else that might be interested. Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome. Morse is dead...hang it up! I don't know your reasoning for making a statement like that, but no matter what it is it applies to ham radio in general. What do you need ham radio for in the first place ? A cell phone is all you need to talk to anybody, anywhere, anytime. So what are you doing here on the ham radio newsgroups in the first place ? Indeed. -has |
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"Dean Norris" wrote in message ... On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:52:52 GMT, "Wayne P. Muckleroy" wrote: antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a miracle that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and (slowly) communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of spark generators were invented and we were really advanced because we could lose the wire sets and communicate across the big pond. I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the importance of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time in here. However, if I need to order a pizza on my way home from work, I don't pull out my HT and patch into the local pizzeria. I use my cell phone of course. But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously, the cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my key and start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal contact via an HF mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could find other modes to use that are almost as efficient as Morse. If all else fails, I could hook up my lap-top, and let it do all the work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the off chance my lap-top is dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me to 20, 40, 60 wpm. I have much more important things to do with my time than practice this dead language. Wayne- (KC8UIO) Well, la-de-dah! That's norris code for who gives a ****. I happen to enjoy code. You do your thing, I'll do mine. I agree, also it keeps the QRM. Dan/W4NTI |
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One more reason to close the borders.
Dan/W4NTI "Wayne P. Muckleroy" wrote in message .. . ...for calling me an idiot and then wishing me 73. Somehow, I doubt your sincerity. Don't worry...I have not wasted any time on code. The only time I spent on code was the two weeks I needed to get to 5 wpm. This was to pass the code element in the States. My sincere thanks to Samuel and Guglielmo for their contributions to communication technology. Thank God that their pioneering efforts have lead the way to much more! Goodbye clicks, dots, and dashes. Hello ones and zeros. Wayne- (KC8UIO) "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message ... Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote: antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a miracle that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and (slowly) communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of spark generators were invented and we were really advanced because we could lose the wire sets and communicate across the big pond. I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the importance of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time in here. However, if I need to order a pizza on my way home from work, I don't pull out my HT and patch into the local pizzeria. I use my cell phone of course. But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously, the cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my key and start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal contact via an HF mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could find other modes to use that are almost as efficient as Morse. If all else fails, I could hook up my lap-top, and let it do all the work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the off chance my lap-top is dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me to 20, 40, 60 wpm. I have much more important things to do with my time than practice this dead language. Wayne- (KC8UIO) Wayne, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you really are an idiot. Now go order yourself a pizza with your HF voice rig or something. You're clearly a very efficient guy, so why waste your time arguing about a technology that you don't want to spend any time on ? 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd |
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Bob McConnell wrote:
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote: Jerseyj wrote: Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version! Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being paid... One user reported that the executable runs just fine on Linux under the WINE emulator, tho. If you published the source under the GPL, you might find a few people interested in porting it to a real OS. I wouldn't dare install DirectX on any computer with a NIC, but don't have any use for a box without one. Really ? Wow ! How incredibly interesting... LB3KB, Sigurd |
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On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:16:40 +0200, Sigurd Stenersen wrote:
Bob McConnell wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote: Jerseyj wrote: Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version! Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being paid... One user reported that the executable runs just fine on Linux under the WINE emulator, tho. If you published the source under the GPL, you might find a few people interested in porting it to a real OS. I wouldn't dare install DirectX on any computer with a NIC, but don't have any use for a box without one. Really ? Wow ! How incredibly interesting... LB3KB, Sigurd Interesting because someone else might be interested in the code, or because someone actually cares about the security of their computers? Bob McConnell N2SPP |
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wrote in message ... On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:17:50 GMT, wrote: On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:37:45 GMT, "Falky foo" wrote: I don't know dude.. use your imagination. Do I have to write a post-apocalyptic story for you? Ok, let's say that a big ass asteroid hit the earth and blew up a lot of ****, wiped out all the telecommunications stuff and there were only pockets of people left, scattered all over. You rip a battery out of a car and power up your HF rig, hoist up a simple antenna and start beaming **** as far out as you can. Maybe the atmosphere is so ****ed by the crap in the air that voice is totally garbled, or maybe the only people are 10000 miles away and you can barely reach them with your ****ty antenna. Or maybe they don't even speak your language but can understand some rudimentary morse stuff. Who knows? I'm obviously not saying this situation is at all likely, but it and others are certainly possible. Would I spend my time learning code for this possibility? No, but I can understand that some people might. Wow, "On the Beach", huh. :-) and what goodCW do in that movie/ senario it draged to sub across the ocean to find a CW key hooked on a flaping blind The key was not "hooked" on a flapping blind. The blind was blowing in the wind and a empty bottle of Coca Cola was hitting the key, it then made contact and was sending the following message; BUY MORE OVALTINE. Dan/W4NTI |
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Bob McConnell wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:16:40 +0200, Sigurd Stenersen wrote: Bob McConnell wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote: Jerseyj wrote: Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version! Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being paid... One user reported that the executable runs just fine on Linux under the WINE emulator, tho. If you published the source under the GPL, you might find a few people interested in porting it to a real OS. I wouldn't dare install DirectX on any computer with a NIC, but don't have any use for a box without one. Really ? Wow ! How incredibly interesting... Interesting because someone else might be interested in the code, or because someone actually cares about the security of their computers? Neither. I was being ironic. Why don't you just make your own software and throw it away like that, if you have the skills ? Or are you just bitching because you don't have the ability ? So far, I'm the only one giving away great work for free here... LB3KB, Sigurd |
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your imagination exceeds mine obviously
obviously.. you must be an accountant. |
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Falky foo wrote: your imagination exceeds mine obviously obviously.. you must be an accountant. nope |
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(Snip)
Ahem, If you have a Linux box setup with a sound card and have a reasonably current installation of the WINE emulator, the Just Learn Morse Code executable runs just fine. The helpfiles don't work in WINE but the program is a go. I lifted the executable off of my win2000 box though some versions of WINE will install an .msi file. Kurt Savegnago Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version! Oh, and you can change settings during a session (while Morse code is being sent). 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd |
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"an_old_friend" wrote in message oups.com... Falky foo wrote: very true. the only time you would NEED code would be in EXTREMELY bad situations -- ie, the world as we know it is gone gone gone. Otherwise it's truly an anachronism. I suppose it's good to have folks who know it just in case of some major MAJOR catastrophe; and there are some people who enjoy learning Latin too, a fairly useless language. So good-on-em if that's their thing. I have read this suggestion over the year and always aks just what good that Morse Coded CW is going to do if things ever went that far to hell (if morse were needed as opposed to just being useful for hobby proposes that is) I never get an answer to just what good Morse code would be in this doomday world. the best answer I have seen to that is the unlikely "Independance day" senario Try hurricane aftermath combined with serious solar/geomagnetic disturbances. This scenario has actually happened this very year according to what I've read. |
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:10:09 -0400, "Dee Flint"
wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message roups.com... Falky foo wrote: very true. the only time you would NEED code would be in EXTREMELY bad situations -- ie, the world as we know it is gone gone gone. Otherwise it's truly an anachronism. I suppose it's good to have folks who know it just in case of some major MAJOR catastrophe; and there are some people who enjoy learning Latin too, a fairly useless language. So good-on-em if that's their thing. I have read this suggestion over the year and always aks just what good that Morse Coded CW is going to do if things ever went that far to hell (if morse were needed as opposed to just being useful for hobby proposes that is) I never get an answer to just what good Morse code would be in this doomday world. the best answer I have seen to that is the unlikely "Independance day" senario Try hurricane aftermath combined with serious solar/geomagnetic disturbances. This scenario has actually happened this very year according to what I've read. you are just plain wrong if you are refering to Katrina at no time was Morse the only working mode _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:10:09 -0400, "Dee Flint" wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message groups.com... Falky foo wrote: very true. the only time you would NEED code would be in EXTREMELY bad situations -- ie, the world as we know it is gone gone gone. Otherwise it's truly an anachronism. I suppose it's good to have folks who know it just in case of some major MAJOR catastrophe; and there are some people who enjoy learning Latin too, a fairly useless language. So good-on-em if that's their thing. I have read this suggestion over the year and always aks just what good that Morse Coded CW is going to do if things ever went that far to hell (if morse were needed as opposed to just being useful for hobby proposes that is) I never get an answer to just what good Morse code would be in this doomday world. the best answer I have seen to that is the unlikely "Independance day" senario Try hurricane aftermath combined with serious solar/geomagnetic disturbances. This scenario has actually happened this very year according to what I've read. you are just plain wrong if you are refering to Katrina at no time was Morse the only working mode And just how would you know Markie? A no code, no want Tech with ZERO experience or Knowledge of the mode. Dan/W4NTI |
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wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:10:09 -0400, "Dee Flint" wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message groups.com... Falky foo wrote: very true. the only time you would NEED code would be in EXTREMELY bad situations -- ie, the world as we know it is gone gone gone. Otherwise it's truly an anachronism. I suppose it's good to have folks who know it just in case of some major MAJOR catastrophe; and there are some people who enjoy learning Latin too, a fairly useless language. So good-on-em if that's their thing. I have read this suggestion over the year and always aks just what good that Morse Coded CW is going to do if things ever went that far to hell (if morse were needed as opposed to just being useful for hobby proposes that is) I never get an answer to just what good Morse code would be in this doomday world. the best answer I have seen to that is the unlikely "Independance day" senario Try hurricane aftermath combined with serious solar/geomagnetic disturbances. This scenario has actually happened this very year according to what I've read. you are just plain wrong if you are refering to Katrina at no time was Morse the only working mode Didn't say it was the only working mode. Just that it was used due to bad conditions. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 02:10:36 +0200, Sigurd Stenersen wrote:
Bob McConnell wrote: On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:16:40 +0200, Sigurd Stenersen wrote: Bob McConnell wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote: Jerseyj wrote: Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version! Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being paid... One user reported that the executable runs just fine on Linux under the WINE emulator, tho. If you published the source under the GPL, you might find a few people interested in porting it to a real OS. I wouldn't dare install DirectX on any computer with a NIC, but don't have any use for a box without one. Really ? Wow ! How incredibly interesting... Interesting because someone else might be interested in the code, or because someone actually cares about the security of their computers? Neither. I was being ironic. Why don't you just make your own software and throw it away like that, if you have the skills ? Or are you just bitching because you don't have the ability ? So far, I'm the only one giving away great work for free here... LB3KB, Sigurd I can and have written code to give away, as well as finding bugs, indentifying fixes and adding enhancements for other programs. I attempt to contribute back to any project that I use and some that I only considered using. But my expertise is in communications and embedded systems with no user interface. Most of my targets don't have a disk drive, keyboard, display or an X86 CPU. I usually work is in 'C' and assembler and ocassionally have to write my own interrupt service routines. So while the back end is easy, I don't have a clue how to create a working user interface. I prefer the GPL so that if someone wants to use my code to make money, they either share all their code or come talk to me about using a different license and share some of the money. On the other hand, one of the advantages of the GPL is that if just 10 people contribute one hour each to a project, they all get ten hours of value back. But to create the most value, each should work in an area where they are proficient. Bob McConnell N2SPP |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:06:41 -0400, "Dee Flint"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:10:09 -0400, "Dee Flint" wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message egroups.com... Falky foo wrote: cut Try hurricane aftermath combined with serious solar/geomagnetic disturbances. This scenario has actually happened this very year according to what I've read. you are just plain wrong if you are refering to Katrina at no time was Morse the only working mode Didn't say it was the only working mode. Just that it was used due to bad conditions. as a point of fact you did say it was the only working , by virtue of answering the quetion situations where it would be the only working mode and that the senario had occured this year at best then your post was sloppy and since you deem yourself to critize me for not taking greater I remind you to live up to the standards you seek to foist on other as you should remmber I have phrase for when you don't Dee D. Flint, N8UZE _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:06:41 -0400, "Dee Flint" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:10:09 -0400, "Dee Flint" wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message legroups.com... Falky foo wrote: cut Try hurricane aftermath combined with serious solar/geomagnetic disturbances. This scenario has actually happened this very year according to what I've read. you are just plain wrong if you are refering to Katrina at no time was Morse the only working mode Didn't say it was the only working mode. Just that it was used due to bad conditions. as a point of fact you did say it was the only working , by virtue of answering the quetion situations where it would be the only working mode and that the senario had occured this year at best then your post was sloppy and since you deem yourself to critize me for not taking greater I remind you to live up to the standards you seek to foist on other as you should remmber I have phrase for when you don't Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I commented on the original post before I knew who made it. Missed the change in screen name. I respond to no more. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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Bob McConnell wrote:
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 02:10:36 +0200, Sigurd Stenersen wrote: Bob McConnell wrote: On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:16:40 +0200, Sigurd Stenersen wrote: Bob McConnell wrote: On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote: Jerseyj wrote: Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version! Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being paid... One user reported that the executable runs just fine on Linux under the WINE emulator, tho. That was me who reported it. I used a 6 month old version of WINE and a current version of WINE in two differenct computers. One had the standard OSS sound system and one had the commercial 4Front Technologies code for sound setup. One machine is a Quad 6 four Pentium-Pro 333Mhz cpu machine and the other is a very old PR440FX dual Pentium-Pro 333Mhz. Only thing that doesn't work is the helpfiles. To get the program to work under WINE, lift the Just-Learn-Morse-Code.exe file off of a Windows machine. Stick it in your Linux box and start it with the usual WINE command. I tried to do an install using WINE and the .msi program but the install hung up. Manually getting and using the executable works fine for me. Sheesh, I gotta work harder. Can send well but receiving is a whole 'nother ballgame. Fired up JLMC last night and gave it a serious go and it is indeed going to take 30 minutes a night for sometime to get me up to speed. I was a bit saddened but felt better when I reminded myself I haven't put myself on a timeframe and still need to study the Tech and General Manuals. Passed an OnLine tech exam, but I would like to get a higher score. Kurt Savegnago Kurt Savegnago If you published the source under the GPL, you might find a few people interested in porting it to a real OS. I wouldn't dare install DirectX on any computer with a NIC, but don't have any use for a box without one. Really ? Wow ! How incredibly interesting... Interesting because someone else might be interested in the code, or because someone actually cares about the security of their computers? Neither. I was being ironic. Why don't you just make your own software and throw it away like that, if you have the skills ? Or are you just bitching because you don't have the ability ? So far, I'm the only one giving away great work for free here... LB3KB, Sigurd I can and have written code to give away, as well as finding bugs, indentifying fixes and adding enhancements for other programs. I attempt to contribute back to any project that I use and some that I only considered using. But my expertise is in communications and embedded systems with no user interface. Most of my targets don't have a disk drive, keyboard, display or an X86 CPU. I usually work is in 'C' and assembler and ocassionally have to write my own interrupt service routines. So while the back end is easy, I don't have a clue how to create a working user interface. I prefer the GPL so that if someone wants to use my code to make money, they either share all their code or come talk to me about using a different license and share some of the money. On the other hand, one of the advantages of the GPL is that if just 10 people contribute one hour each to a project, they all get ten hours of value back. But to create the most value, each should work in an area where they are proficient. Bob McConnell N2SPP |
Morse code learning software
Kurt wrote:
Sheesh, I gotta work harder. Can send well but receiving is a whole 'nother ballgame. Fired up JLMC last night and gave it a serious go and it is indeed going to take 30 minutes a night for sometime to get me up to speed. I was a bit saddened but felt better when I reminded myself I haven't put myself on a timeframe and still need to study the Tech and General Manuals. Passed an OnLine tech exam, but I would like to get a higher score. What speed setting are you using ? I think it may be harder learning at below 12 WPM than above. But I suppose that's bad news if you're aiming for a 5WPM test... 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com |
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Morse code learning software
Sigurd Stenersen wrote:
Kurt wrote: Sheesh, I gotta work harder. Can send well but receiving is a whole 'nother ballgame. Fired up JLMC last night and gave it a serious go and it is indeed going to take 30 minutes a night for sometime to get me up to speed. I was a bit saddened but felt better when I reminded myself I haven't put myself on a timeframe and still need to study the Tech and General Manuals. Passed an OnLine tech exam, but I would like to get a higher score. What speed setting are you using ? I think it may be harder learning at below 12 WPM than above. But I suppose that's bad news if you're aiming for a 5WPM test... 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com I slowed it down to 10 as I was a bit depressed and I actually haven't been seriously practicing receiving so I just have to do the 30 minutes or more a day routine. Use headphones and such. I memorized by rote the characters and practiced sending in my head whenever I get the chance. Sending and receiving takes different parts of the brain to process so I just have to activate the auditory centers. I did use G4FON's program and other free programs to help me learn the characters. The other incentive I have is I am on the shipping list for a Small Wonders DSW-II 40 meter transceiver kit. When built, I have a dummy load to work with it but won't plug a key in or transmit until I pass the test and get assigned a callsign. A fellow told me he got a rig before he was licensed and used the receiver to listen and never plugged a key or a mic in. (It was a considerably pricey rig) It was the incentive for him to keep studying and worked. It was he who told me that I didn't have to be licensed to buy a rig and just use it to listen. Just can't send a signal. (Makes sense to me.) Kurt Savegnago |
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On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 21:50:57 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:10:09 -0400, "Dee Flint" wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message egroups.com... cut Try hurricane aftermath combined with serious solar/geomagnetic disturbances. This scenario has actually happened this very year according to what I've read. you are just plain wrong if you are refering to Katrina at no time was Morse the only working mode And just how would you know Markie? from the News Dan from listening on air after all at no time when propagation should faallow the UP to hear No wwere voice signal from the area not on the air as well as from Dee and yourself I guess you are admitting you lied about that. that is the only logical deduction A no code, no want Tech with ZERO experience or Knowledge of the mode. wrong again I know a great about the mode, even have some experence using it just not in the manner you apporve of Dan/W4NTI _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 06:14:14 -0400, "Dee Flint"
wrote: wrote in message .. . On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:06:41 -0400, "Dee Flint" wrote: wrote in message ... cut Didn't say it was the only working mode. Just that it was used due to bad conditions. as a point of fact you did say it was the only working , by virtue of answering the quetion situations where it would be the only working mode and that the senario had occured this year at best then your post was sloppy and since you deem yourself to critize me for not taking greater I remind you to live up to the standards you seek to foist on other as you should remmber I have phrase for when you don't Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I commented on the original post before I knew who made it. Missed the change in screen name. I respond to no more. hate to sound like Stevie but if you are posting replies to no one then perhaps you are need of help. mental help Dee D. Flint, N8UZE _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 140,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
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He changed his screen name but not the fact that he is still a jerk!
Ace - WH2T "Dee Flint" wrote in message . .. wrote in message ... On Thu, 20 Oct 2005 18:06:41 -0400, "Dee Flint" wrote: wrote in message ... On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 22:10:09 -0400, "Dee Flint" wrote: "an_old_friend" wrote in message glegroups.com... Falky foo wrote: cut Try hurricane aftermath combined with serious solar/geomagnetic disturbances. This scenario has actually happened this very year according to what I've read. you are just plain wrong if you are refering to Katrina at no time was Morse the only working mode Didn't say it was the only working mode. Just that it was used due to bad conditions. as a point of fact you did say it was the only working , by virtue of answering the quetion situations where it would be the only working mode and that the senario had occured this year at best then your post was sloppy and since you deem yourself to critize me for not taking greater I remind you to live up to the standards you seek to foist on other as you should remmber I have phrase for when you don't Dee D. Flint, N8UZE I commented on the original post before I knew who made it. Missed the change in screen name. I respond to no more. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
Morse code learning software
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:26:00 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote: Kurt wrote: Sheesh, I gotta work harder. Can send well but receiving is a whole 'nother ballgame. Fired up JLMC last night and gave it a serious go and it is indeed going to take 30 minutes a night for sometime to get me up to speed. I was a bit saddened but felt better when I reminded myself I haven't put myself on a timeframe and still need to study the Tech and General Manuals. Passed an OnLine tech exam, but I would like to get a higher score. What speed setting are you using ? I think it may be harder learning at below 12 WPM than above. But I suppose that's bad news if you're aiming for a 5WPM test... 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com try chars at 8wpm with spacing at 16 It gives a better sense of the "flow and rhythm" so its easier to increase speed. Ed de KA9AHQ/7 No Voice, No Vice, Novice :-) and again Thank You Sigurd. |
Morse code learning software
Spooge Geeko wrote:
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:26:00 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote: I think it may be harder learning at below 12 WPM than above. But I suppose that's bad news if you're aiming for a 5WPM test... try chars at 8wpm with spacing at 16 It gives a better sense of the "flow and rhythm" so its easier to increase speed. According to Koch's research it takes longer to learn below 12 WPM. He probably didn't use Farnsworth timing, tho. This is highly subjective either way, so if you find a setting that works for you just stick with it. (On the other hand - if you're going to take a test you should find out what speed is used for that test before you show up. Practicing 5/5 for a test that's given at 5/18 spells t-r-o-u-b-l-e.) I use 12/18 for relearning Morse code 24 years later myself. (I use Just Learn Morse Code whenever I can find the time - currently I spend most of my hobby hours working on the next version.) 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com |
Morse code learning software
Thanks for all the advice. Will work harder once the Midwest winter
sets in and the summer hobbies go on the back burner. My wife won't let me spraypaint in the garage after I poofed the cars.:) Kurt Savegnago Sigurd Stenersen wrote: Spooge Geeko wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:26:00 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote: I think it may be harder learning at below 12 WPM than above. But I suppose that's bad news if you're aiming for a 5WPM test... try chars at 8wpm with spacing at 16 It gives a better sense of the "flow and rhythm" so its easier to increase speed. According to Koch's research it takes longer to learn below 12 WPM. He probably didn't use Farnsworth timing, tho. This is highly subjective either way, so if you find a setting that works for you just stick with it. (On the other hand - if you're going to take a test you should find out what speed is used for that test before you show up. Practicing 5/5 for a test that's given at 5/18 spells t-r-o-u-b-l-e.) I use 12/18 for relearning Morse code 24 years later myself. (I use Just Learn Morse Code whenever I can find the time - currently I spend most of my hobby hours working on the next version.) 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com |
Morse code learning software
On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 13:18:22 -0700, Spooge Geeko
wrote: On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 18:26:00 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen" wrote: Kurt wrote: Sheesh, I gotta work harder. Can send well but receiving is a whole 'nother ballgame. Fired up JLMC last night and gave it a serious go and it is indeed going to take 30 minutes a night for sometime to get me up to speed. I was a bit saddened but felt better when I reminded myself I haven't put myself on a timeframe and still need to study the Tech and General Manuals. Passed an OnLine tech exam, but I would like to get a higher score. What speed setting are you using ? I think it may be harder learning at below 12 WPM than above. But I suppose that's bad news if you're aiming for a 5WPM test... 73 de LB3KB, Sigurd http://justlearnmorsecode.com try chars at 8wpm with spacing at 16 You sure that isn't the character at 16 with the spacing set to give 8 WPM? If the character and spacing are not the same it just doesn't sound right. It was easier for me to learn with the proper spacing for the speed. Now days I can copy 5, but it's work. At 20 I hear word sounds which is easy, but I'd be lost trying to copy 8 with a spacing for 16, or the characters sent at 16 with the spacing set to give 8WPM. Every one is different. It gives a better sense of the "flow and rhythm" so its easier to For me it breaks the flow and rhythm, but OTOH you are learning the character sounds . Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com increase speed. Ed de KA9AHQ/7 No Voice, No Vice, Novice :-) and again Thank You Sigurd. |
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