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Sigurd Stenersen October 11th 05 06:22 PM

Morse code learning software
 
I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code, and
have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the code. The
program can be downloaded from http://justlearnmorsecode.com

If you like the program, please make the URL known to the members of your
club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



Has October 12th 05 08:39 AM


"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code, and
have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the code. The
program can be downloaded from http://justlearnmorsecode.com

If you like the program, please make the URL known to the members of your
club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.



Congrats for offering another way for folks to learn CW.
Thing is, there is no Easy way. Learning the code takes practice, time, but
most importantly--desire.
The time seems to be coming when learning even 5WPM will not be an issue to
get a ham license, and more than a few are waiting on that. And I won't say
if that's a good or bad thing, but from my experience learing CW is far
easier that what you need to know than what's required for an Extra license.
But again, wanting to learn makes all the difference. And if someone comes
up with an easier way to absorb that knowledge, more power to them, and to
you.

-Has



Sigurd Stenersen October 12th 05 01:56 PM

Has wrote:
"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code,
and have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the
code. The program can be downloaded from
http://justlearnmorsecode.com If you like the program, please make the
URL known to the members of
your club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.



Congrats for offering another way for folks to learn CW.


Thank you.


Thing is, there is no Easy way.


Yes there is. That is what I was posting about.


Learning the code takes practice,
time, but most importantly--desire.


Sure. But using the above mentioned software makes it take less practice,
less time, and even less desire.


But again, wanting to learn makes all the difference.


Wanting to learn is important, but having good tools for learning also makes
a big difference.


And if someone comes up with an easier way to absorb
that knowledge, more power to them, and to you.


Actually, Koch and Farnsworth did just that, a LONG time ago. And the
http://justlearnmorsecode.com web site includes descriptions of both these
methods.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



[email protected] October 15th 05 02:06 PM

On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:22:22 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote:

I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code, and
have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the code. The
program can be downloaded from http://justlearnmorsecode.com

If you like the program, please make the URL known to the members of your
club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd


SWEET and XP Likes it.
Very professionally done.
I used to have cassettes each with one method, one ARRL and
one from, I think CQ magazine. long gone.
I've been on 10 metres so long I can't recognise my own callsign
your software will help change that.
Thank you so very much
Ed
73 de KA9AHQ/7



Dan/W4NTI October 15th 05 10:15 PM

Morse code learning software
 

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:22:22 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote:

I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code, and
have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the code. The
program can be downloaded from http://justlearnmorsecode.com

If you like the program, please make the URL known to the members of your
club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd


SWEET and XP Likes it.
Very professionally done.
I used to have cassettes each with one method, one ARRL and
one from, I think CQ magazine. long gone.
I've been on 10 metres so long I can't recognise my own callsign
your software will help change that.
Thank you so very much
Ed
73 de KA9AHQ/7


I don't need to learn Morse, but I decided to look it over, I am quite
impressed. Nice program to practice with also.

Wish it had some more speed though.

Any possibility of cranking it up a bit?

Dan/W4NTI



Wayne P. Muckleroy October 15th 05 10:22 PM

Morse code learning software
 
Morse is dead...hang it up!


"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code, and
have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the code. The
program can be downloaded from http://justlearnmorsecode.com

If you like the program, please make the URL known to the members of your
club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd




Sigurd Stenersen October 15th 05 10:44 PM

Morse code learning software
 
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
wrote:

I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse
code, and have created a computer program that makes it easy to
learn the code. The program can be downloaded from
http://justlearnmorsecode.com


I don't need to learn Morse, but I decided to look it over, I am
quite impressed. Nice program to practice with also.


Thank you.


Wish it had some more speed though.
Any possibility of cranking it up a bit?


I'm assuming that you're not asking for more than 100 WPM ?

The easiest way to change the speed is to change the two numbers next to the
label "Speed" on the line below the menu.

You might also change the speed by selecting /Tools/Options (select Options
in the Tools menu) and then change the two numbers next to "Speed" in there.
There is also a Help button in that screen.

/Help/Contents is another good place to start.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



Sigurd Stenersen October 15th 05 10:48 PM

Morse code learning software
 
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code,
and have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the
code. The program can be downloaded from
http://justlearnmorsecode.com If you like the program, please make the
URL known to the members of
your club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.

Morse is dead...hang it up!


I don't know your reasoning for making a statement like that, but no matter
what it is it applies to ham radio in general. What do you need ham radio
for in the first place ? A cell phone is all you need to talk to anybody,
anywhere, anytime.

So what are you doing here on the ham radio newsgroups in the first place ?


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



Sigurd Stenersen October 15th 05 11:12 PM

Morse code learning software
 
Sigurd Stenersen wrote:
The easiest way to change the speed is to change the two numbers next
to the label "Speed" on the line below the menu.


To "clarifuse" a bit - if you want to set the speed to 25 WPM and use
standard timing, you have to change both numbers to 25.

The first number is the word speed, or overall transmit speed. The second
number is the character speed. If the numbers are equal, you're using
standard timing. If the first number is less than the second number, you're
using Farnsworth timing, which means characters are transmitted at the
higher speed with extra spacing inserted between characters and words to
slow the transmission down to match the lower number.

Oh, and you can change settings during a session (while Morse code is being
sent).


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



Has October 16th 05 01:03 AM

Morse code learning software
 

"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code,
and have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the
code. The program can be downloaded from
http://justlearnmorsecode.com If you like the program, please make the
URL known to the members of
your club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.

Morse is dead...hang it up!


I don't know your reasoning for making a statement like that, but no
matter what it is it applies to ham radio in general. What do you need
ham radio for in the first place ? A cell phone is all you need to talk
to anybody, anywhere, anytime.

So what are you doing here on the ham radio newsgroups in the first place
?



Indeed.

-has



Wayne P. Muckleroy October 16th 05 02:52 AM

Morse is...
 
antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a miracle
that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and (slowly)
communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of spark generators
were invented and we were really advanced because we could lose the wire
sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the importance
of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time in here. However,
if I need to order a pizza on my way home from work, I don't pull out my HT
and patch into the local pizzeria. I use my cell phone of course.

But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously, the
cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my key and
start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal contact via an HF
mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could find other modes to use that
are almost as efficient as Morse. If all else fails, I could hook up my
lap-top, and let it do all the work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the
off chance my lap-top is dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In
which case, I still don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me
to 20, 40, 60 wpm.

I have much more important things to do with my time than practice this dead
language.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)

co
communicatio
"Has" wrote in message
...

"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code,
and have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the
code. The program can be downloaded from
http://justlearnmorsecode.com If you like the program, please make the
URL known to the members of
your club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.

Morse is dead...hang it up!


I don't know your reasoning for making a statement like that, but no
matter what it is it applies to ham radio in general. What do you need
ham radio for in the first place ? A cell phone is all you need to talk
to anybody, anywhere, anytime.

So what are you doing here on the ham radio newsgroups in the first place
?



Indeed.

-has




Dean Norris October 16th 05 03:01 AM

Morse is...
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:52:52 GMT, "Wayne P. Muckleroy"
wrote:

antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a miracle
that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and (slowly)
communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of spark generators
were invented and we were really advanced because we could lose the wire
sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the importance
of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time in here. However,
if I need to order a pizza on my way home from work, I don't pull out my HT
and patch into the local pizzeria. I use my cell phone of course.

But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously, the
cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my key and
start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal contact via an HF
mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could find other modes to use that
are almost as efficient as Morse. If all else fails, I could hook up my
lap-top, and let it do all the work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the
off chance my lap-top is dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In
which case, I still don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me
to 20, 40, 60 wpm.

I have much more important things to do with my time than practice this dead
language.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)


Well, la-de-dah! That's norris code for who gives a ****. I happen
to enjoy code. You do your thing, I'll do mine.


Sigurd Stenersen October 16th 05 03:06 AM

Morse is...
 
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a
miracle that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and
(slowly) communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of
spark generators were invented and we were really advanced because we
could lose the wire sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the
importance of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time
in here. However, if I need to order a pizza on my way home from
work, I don't pull out my HT and patch into the local pizzeria. I use
my cell phone of course.
But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously,
the cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my
key and start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal
contact via an HF mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could
find other modes to use that are almost as efficient as Morse. If all
else fails, I could hook up my lap-top, and let it do all the
work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the off chance my lap-top is
dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still
don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me to 20, 40, 60
wpm.
I have much more important things to do with my time than practice
this dead language.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)


Wayne, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you really are an
idiot.

Now go order yourself a pizza with your HF voice rig or something. You're
clearly a very efficient guy, so why waste your time arguing about a
technology that you don't want to spend any time on ?


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



Wayne P. Muckleroy October 16th 05 10:06 AM

Thanks...
 
....for calling me an idiot and then wishing me 73. Somehow, I doubt your
sincerity.

Don't worry...I have not wasted any time on code. The only time I spent on
code was the two weeks I needed to get to 5 wpm. This was to pass the code
element in the States.

My sincere thanks to Samuel and Guglielmo for their contributions to
communication technology. Thank God that their pioneering efforts have lead
the way to much more! Goodbye clicks, dots, and dashes. Hello ones and
zeros.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)

"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a
miracle that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and
(slowly) communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of
spark generators were invented and we were really advanced because we
could lose the wire sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the
importance of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time
in here. However, if I need to order a pizza on my way home from
work, I don't pull out my HT and patch into the local pizzeria. I use
my cell phone of course.
But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously,
the cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my
key and start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal
contact via an HF mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could
find other modes to use that are almost as efficient as Morse. If all
else fails, I could hook up my lap-top, and let it do all the
work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the off chance my lap-top is
dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still
don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me to 20, 40, 60
wpm.
I have much more important things to do with my time than practice
this dead language.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)


Wayne, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you really are an
idiot.

Now go order yourself a pizza with your HF voice rig or something. You're
clearly a very efficient guy, so why waste your time arguing about a
technology that you don't want to spend any time on ?


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd




Jerseyj October 16th 05 11:43 AM

Morse code learning software
 
In article ,
stuff cut

Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!

Oh, and you can change settings during a session (while Morse code is being
sent).


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



Dee Flint October 16th 05 12:30 PM

Thanks...
 

"Wayne P. Muckleroy" wrote in message
.. .
...for calling me an idiot and then wishing me 73. Somehow, I doubt your
sincerity.

Don't worry...I have not wasted any time on code. The only time I spent on
code was the two weeks I needed to get to 5 wpm. This was to pass the code
element in the States.

My sincere thanks to Samuel and Guglielmo for their contributions to
communication technology. Thank God that their pioneering efforts have
lead the way to much more! Goodbye clicks, dots, and dashes. Hello ones
and zeros.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)


You do realize of course that, since you do not intend to do anything
further with the morse code skill, learning it to only 5wpm is not
sufficient to retain the knowledge and it will not be available to you
should you ever need.

You do realize of course that the ones and zeros modes become unuseable when
there are auroras, thunderstorms, geomagnetic disturbances, etc.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Sigurd Stenersen October 16th 05 01:25 PM

Thanks...
 
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
If on the off chance my lap-top is dead, I could resort to manual
Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still don't need


the stupid Morse learning software


to get me to 20, 40, 60 wpm.
I have much more important things to do with my time than practice
this dead language.

Wayne, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you really are
an idiot.


[Thanks...]
...for calling me an idiot and then wishing me 73. Somehow, I doubt
your sincerity.


Actually, I didn't really mean that you're an idiot so you're right about
that. Me calling you an idiot was a response to you referring to my work as
"stupid morse learning software".

Of course you are entitled to think whatever you want about anything.
Still, it seems selfish at best to be that condescending about other peoples
interests and hard work just because it doesn't fit YOUR abilities to learn
and become interested.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



Sigurd Stenersen October 16th 05 01:33 PM

Morse code learning software
 
Jerseyj wrote:
Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!


Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the
little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to
Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular
ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being
paid...

One user reported that the executable runs just fine on Linux under the WINE
emulator, tho.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd
http://justlearnmorsecode.com



VE3PMK October 16th 05 03:10 PM

Morse code learning software
 
There are lots of nice code programs for MacOS.

Just go to www.google.com/mac and type morse code software in the search
string.

Sorry, can't help you on Linux, but I'm sure they're out there also.

As to the bashing of morse code, if a group of people wanted to play
with communication via smoke signals or tin cans connected with yarn,
it's difficult to understand the mindset of another group who chooses to
flame them for it. Peculiar thinking indeed. Why not flame those
microwave guys who drive around from mountain top to mountain top with
their feed horns and tripods? Perhaps it's because if they enjoy doing
it then all the power to them! It's all about what you enjoy in the
hobby, and if some like morse and others like microwave and yet others
enjoy APRS... hurrah for all of them. Have fun and let others have their
fun too.

VE3PMK





Jerseyj wrote:
In article ,
stuff cut

Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!

Oh, and you can change settings during a session (while Morse code is being
sent).


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



Dan Richardson October 16th 05 03:17 PM

Morse code learning software
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote:

Jerseyj wrote:
Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!


Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the
little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to
Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular
ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being
paid...

Sigurd,

I've been following this for awhile and I find it ironic that someone
takes the time to create a piece of software and then offer it free to
anyone who would like to use it only to have a bunch of complainers
giving you flak that they don't like it or aren't getting there monies
worth.

Thank you for your efforts and providing it free in the best of
amateur radio traditions.

Very 73,
Danny, K6MHE



VE3PMK October 16th 05 03:36 PM

Morse code learning software
 
Likewise, Thanks Sigurd!

VE3PMK


Sigurd,

I've been following this for awhile and I find it ironic that someone
takes the time to create a piece of software and then offer it free to
anyone who would like to use it only to have a bunch of complainers
giving you flak that they don't like it or aren't getting there monies
worth.

Thank you for your efforts and providing it free in the best of
amateur radio traditions.

Very 73,
Danny, K6MHE



Sigurd Stenersen October 16th 05 03:52 PM

Morse code learning software
 
Dan Richardson wrote:
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote:

Jerseyj wrote:
Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!


Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to
spend the little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to
add more features to Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to
spend some time on regular ham activities rather than just extending
my working hours without being paid...


I've been following this for awhile and I find it ironic that someone
takes the time to create a piece of software and then offer it free to
anyone who would like to use it only to have a bunch of complainers
giving you flak that they don't like it or aren't getting there monies
worth.


If that was all I got I would have given up. But fortunately, I get
positive feedback, too. A lot of people send me encouraging emails, a few
people (like yourself) make positive comments on newsgroups and there has
even been a few donations.

(It's not like I'm going to get anything substantial out of this in terms of
money, but the very idea that somebody is willing to part with money when
they don't have to is a very strong indication that what I have created is
perceived as valuable to others.)

Also, checking the download counter has been very encouraging. Approaching
2000 downloads after just a couple of weeks of "air time" is WAY beyond what
I expected for a Morse code learning program.


Thank you for your efforts and providing it free in the best of
amateur radio traditions.


Thank you !


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd
http://justlearnmorsecode.com



Dr.Ace October 16th 05 04:40 PM

Morse code learning software
 
Thank you Sigurd.
As we all know, many of the posters in this NG just want something to bitch
about.
Ace - WH2T


Dan Richardson wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote:

Jerseyj wrote:
Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!


Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the
little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features
to
Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular
ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being
paid...

Sigurd,

I've been following this for awhile and I find it ironic that someone
takes the time to create a piece of software and then offer it free to
anyone who would like to use it only to have a bunch of complainers
giving you flak that they don't like it or aren't getting there monies
worth.

Thank you for your efforts and providing it free in the best of
amateur radio traditions.

Very 73,
Danny, K6MHE





Falky foo October 16th 05 09:03 PM

Morse is...
 
very true. the only time you would NEED code would be in EXTREMELY bad
situations -- ie, the world as we know it is gone gone gone. Otherwise
it's truly an anachronism. I suppose it's good to have folks who know it
just in case of some major MAJOR catastrophe; and there are some people who
enjoy learning Latin too, a fairly useless language. So good-on-em if
that's their thing.



Has October 17th 05 12:07 AM

Morse is...
 

"Wayne P. Muckleroy" wrote in message
. ..
antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a
miracle that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and (slowly)
communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of spark
generators were invented and we were really advanced because we could lose
the wire sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the
importance of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time in
here. However, if I need to order a pizza on my way home from work, I
don't pull out my HT and patch into the local pizzeria. I use my cell
phone of course.




Of course.

There are those however who find using the code to be an enjoyable way of
communicating, for any number of reasons.

Thanks to LB3KB for offering another good way to learn for those folks who
choose to do so.

-Has
KC6TRC



Dr.Ace October 17th 05 06:02 AM

Morse is...
 
Absconde obesito illegitimo
Ace - WH2T

"Falky foo" wrote in message
om...
very true. the only time you would NEED code would be in EXTREMELY bad
situations -- ie, the world as we know it is gone gone gone. Otherwise
it's truly an anachronism. I suppose it's good to have folks who know it
just in case of some major MAJOR catastrophe; and there are some people
who
enjoy learning Latin too, a fairly useless language. So good-on-em if
that's their thing.





Falky foo October 17th 05 07:45 AM

Morse is...
 
Absconde obesito illegitimo
Ace - WH2T


exactly



Has October 17th 05 08:06 AM

Morse is...
 
Interesting that the rather useless and antiquated Usenet still thrives...

-has


"Dr.Ace" wrote in message
...
Absconde obesito illegitimo
Ace - WH2T

"Falky foo" wrote in message
om...
very true. the only time you would NEED code would be in EXTREMELY bad
situations -- ie, the world as we know it is gone gone gone. Otherwise
it's truly an anachronism. I suppose it's good to have folks who know it
just in case of some major MAJOR catastrophe; and there are some people
who
enjoy learning Latin too, a fairly useless language. So good-on-em if
that's their thing.







[email protected] October 17th 05 08:58 AM

Morse code learning software
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:17:05 -0700, Dan Richardson wrote:

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:33:32 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote:

Jerseyj wrote:
Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!


Well, this is a hobby project and I have to select how I want to spend the
little time I have for hobbies. Currently, I choose to add more features to
Just Learn Morse Code and later I might want to spend some time on regular
ham activities rather than just extending my working hours without being
paid...

Sigurd,

I've been following this for awhile and I find it ironic that someone
takes the time to create a piece of software and then offer it free to
anyone who would like to use it only to have a bunch of complainers
giving you flak that they don't like it or aren't getting there monies
worth.



The common saying is -- they'd bitch if you hung tthem with a
brand new rope.


Thank you for your efforts and providing it free in the best of
amateur radio traditions.

Very 73,
Danny, K6MHE



[email protected] October 17th 05 09:00 AM

Morse code learning software
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:10:07 -0400, VE3PMK wrote:

There are lots of nice code programs for MacOS.

Just go to www.google.com/mac and type morse code software in the search
string.

Sorry, can't help you on Linux, but I'm sure they're out there also.

As to the bashing of morse code, if a group of people wanted to play
with communication via smoke signals or tin cans connected with yarn,
it's difficult to understand the mindset of another group who chooses to
flame them for it. Peculiar thinking indeed.


Yep. Right along the lines of, "Kill all the horses; we have
cars now."

Why not flame those
microwave guys who drive around from mountain top to mountain top with
their feed horns and tripods? Perhaps it's because if they enjoy doing
it then all the power to them! It's all about what you enjoy in the
hobby, and if some like morse and others like microwave and yet others
enjoy APRS... hurrah for all of them. Have fun and let others have their
fun too.

VE3PMK





Jerseyj wrote:
In article ,
stuff cut

Too band there isn't a Linux or MacOS version!

Oh, and you can change settings during a session (while Morse code is being
sent).


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd




[email protected] October 17th 05 09:05 AM

Morse is...
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:52:52 GMT, "Wayne P. Muckleroy"
wrote:

antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a miracle
that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and (slowly)
communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of spark generators
were invented and we were really advanced because we could lose the wire
sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the importance
of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time in here. However,
if I need to order a pizza on my way home from work, I don't pull out my HT
and patch into the local pizzeria. I use my cell phone of course.

But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously, the
cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my key and
start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal contact via an HF
mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could find other modes to use that
are almost as efficient as Morse. If all else fails, I could hook up my
lap-top, and let it do all the work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the
off chance my lap-top is dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In
which case, I still don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me
to 20, 40, 60 wpm.

I have much more important things to do with my time than practice this dead
language.


And I have much more important things to do than listen to
your whining that others may enjoy something you don't enjoy. If
you're so unhappy with morse, **** off and let those who care talk
about it or learn it. None of your goddamnes business anyway.

Do you go out on the street and bitch at peole who drive a
different make of car from yours?


Wayne-
(KC8UIO)

co
communicatio
"Has" wrote in message
...

"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code,
and have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the
code. The program can be downloaded from
http://justlearnmorsecode.com If you like the program, please make the
URL known to the members of
your club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.

Morse is dead...hang it up!

I don't know your reasoning for making a statement like that, but no
matter what it is it applies to ham radio in general. What do you need
ham radio for in the first place ? A cell phone is all you need to talk
to anybody, anywhere, anytime.

So what are you doing here on the ham radio newsgroups in the first place
?



Indeed.

-has




[email protected] October 17th 05 09:06 AM

Morse is...
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:06:49 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote:

Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a
miracle that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and
(slowly) communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of
spark generators were invented and we were really advanced because we
could lose the wire sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the
importance of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time
in here. However, if I need to order a pizza on my way home from
work, I don't pull out my HT and patch into the local pizzeria. I use
my cell phone of course.
But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously,
the cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my
key and start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal
contact via an HF mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could
find other modes to use that are almost as efficient as Morse. If all
else fails, I could hook up my lap-top, and let it do all the
work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the off chance my lap-top is
dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still
don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me to 20, 40, 60
wpm.
I have much more important things to do with my time than practice
this dead language.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)


Wayne, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you really are an
idiot.

Now go order yourself a pizza with your HF voice rig or something. You're
clearly a very efficient guy, so why waste your time arguing about a
technology that you don't want to spend any time on ?



Better yet, crawl to the pizza shop and order it in person.
It'll keep you off usenet for a couple of hours.

73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



[email protected] October 17th 05 09:09 AM

Morse is...
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:03:37 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote:

very true. the only time you would NEED code would be in EXTREMELY bad
situations -- ie, the world as we know it is gone gone gone. Otherwise
it's truly an anachronism. I suppose it's good to have folks who know it
just in case of some major MAJOR catastrophe; and there are some people who
enjoy learning Latin too, a fairly useless language.


Studying Latin has done more for my English composition than
any English class I ever took. Your characterization is baseless.

So good-on-em if
that's their thing.



[email protected] October 17th 05 09:11 AM

Thanks...
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:06:11 GMT, "Wayne P. Muckleroy"
wrote:

...for calling me an idiot and then wishing me 73. Somehow, I doubt your
sincerity.

Don't worry...I have not wasted any time on code. The only time I spent on
code was the two weeks I needed to get to 5 wpm. This was to pass the code
element in the States.

My sincere thanks to Samuel and Guglielmo for their contributions to
communication technology. Thank God that their pioneering efforts have lead
the way to much more! Goodbye clicks, dots, and dashes. Hello ones and
zeros.


Typical binary thinker -- there only two ways -- his and the
wrong ways. Narrow-minded POS.


Wayne-
(KC8UIO)

"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
...
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
antiquated. It was developed during a time when it was considered a
miracle that we could string wire sets for thousands of miles and
(slowly) communicate with a series of "clicks." Then the miracle of
spark generators were invented and we were really advanced because we
could lose the wire sets and communicate across the big pond.

I tend to be practical when it comes to technology. I realize the
importance of amateur radio or else I would not be spending my time
in here. However, if I need to order a pizza on my way home from
work, I don't pull out my HT and patch into the local pizzeria. I use
my cell phone of course.
But, during a time of power failure or disastrous periods, obviously,
the cell will not function. So then, I would use a portable method of
communication. This does not mean I would automatically pull out my
key and start sending Morse. Most likely, I would attempt verbal
contact via an HF mode. If bandwidth is limited, I'm sure I could
find other modes to use that are almost as efficient as Morse. If all
else fails, I could hook up my lap-top, and let it do all the
work--sending and receiving Morse. If on the off chance my lap-top is
dead, I could resort to manual Morse at 5 wpm. In which case, I still
don't need the stupid Morse learning software to get me to 20, 40, 60
wpm.
I have much more important things to do with my time than practice
this dead language.

Wayne-
(KC8UIO)


Wayne, I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but you really are an
idiot.

Now go order yourself a pizza with your HF voice rig or something. You're
clearly a very efficient guy, so why waste your time arguing about a
technology that you don't want to spend any time on ?


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd




Amos Keag October 17th 05 12:42 PM

Morse is...
 
Has wrote:

"Wayne P. Muckleroy" wrote in message
. ..

antiquated. SNIPPED


But, it [Morse Code] is a great way to work those DX-peditions with only
100 watts and a dipole.


Mike Andrews October 17th 05 05:07 PM

Morse code learning software
 
In rec.radio.amateur.dx wrote:
On Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:22:22 +0200, "Sigurd Stenersen"
wrote:


I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code, and
have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the code. The
program can be downloaded from
http://justlearnmorsecode.com

If you like the program, please make the URL known to the members of your
club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd


SWEET and XP Likes it.
Very professionally done.
I used to have cassettes each with one method, one ARRL and
one from, I think CQ magazine. long gone.
I've been on 10 metres so long I can't recognise my own callsign
your software will help change that.
Thank you so very much
Ed
73 de KA9AHQ/7


And a big "What He Said" from me, too. That's a really pretty piece of
code, Sigurd, and I very much appreciate you making it available to
us.

I've been teaching a Morse class to folks in the local club using
G4FON's Koch program, and that's usable, but it appears to have some
issues with character spacing. Yours, on the other hand, gets the
character spacing right.

Thanks very much indeed, es 73 de

--
Mike Andrews, W5EGO

Tired old sysadmin

Falky foo October 17th 05 08:28 PM

Morse is...
 
Oh, I don't think your little example makes my characterization "baseless."
But it does looks as though I tweaked some people by calling their choice of
study a waste of time.

Studying Latin has done more for my English composition than
any English class I ever took. Your characterization is baseless.




an_old_friend October 17th 05 08:54 PM

Morse code learning software
 
Sigurd Stenersen wrote:
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
"Sigurd Stenersen" wrote in message
I decided to make a contribution to the continued use of Morse code,
and have created a computer program that makes it easy to learn the
code. The program can be downloaded from
http://justlearnmorsecode.com If you like the program, please make the
URL known to the members of
your club and anybody else that might be interested.

Also, comments and suggestions are very welcome.

Morse is dead...hang it up!


I don't know your reasoning for making a statement like that, but no matter
what it is it applies to ham radio in general. What do you need ham radio
for in the first place ? A cell phone is all you need to talk to anybody,
anywhere, anytime.


Morse is more properly moribund but Morse is not the the whole of Ham
radio

So what are you doing here on the ham radio newsgroups in the first place ?


73 de LB3KB, Sigurd



an_old_friend October 17th 05 08:54 PM

Morse is...
 
Falky foo wrote:
very true. the only time you would NEED code would be in EXTREMELY bad
situations -- ie, the world as we know it is gone gone gone. Otherwise
it's truly an anachronism. I suppose it's good to have folks who know it
just in case of some major MAJOR catastrophe; and there are some people who
enjoy learning Latin too, a fairly useless language. So good-on-em if
that's their thing.


I have read this suggestion over the year and always aks just what good
that Morse Coded CW is going to do if things ever went that far to hell
(if morse were needed as opposed to just being useful for hobby
proposes that is)

I never get an answer to just what good Morse code would be in this
doomday world.

the best answer I have seen to that is the unlikely "Independance day"
senario


Sigurd Stenersen October 17th 05 09:46 PM

Morse code learning software
 
an_old_friend wrote:
Sigurd Stenersen wrote:
Wayne P. Muckleroy wrote:
Morse is dead...hang it up!


I don't know your reasoning for making a statement like that, but no
matter what it is it applies to ham radio in general. What do you
need ham radio for in the first place ? A cell phone is all you
need to talk to anybody, anywhere, anytime.


Morse is more properly moribund but Morse is not the the whole of Ham
radio


Yes... And... So ?


--
73 de LB3KB, Sigurd
http://justlearnmorsecode.com




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