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[email protected] October 28th 05 09:41 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A

I have heard some of my greatest detractors say on the air (when they
didn't consider that I might just happen too be listening) things
something like:

1. "Glenn is so talented, but ..............."

2. "Glenn is so bright, but .........................."

3. "Glenn has the best bulletin service, but ...................."

4. "Glenn did such a great job on such-and-such emergency, but....."

5. "Glenn could be an alternative to ARRL, but...................."

6. "Glenn could have been so big, but.........................."

The problem is that nobody can please all the people all the time, and
if you try to do anything really significant in life, you are going to
**** a lot of other people off, no matter what. Church politics is a
good example of this, and I see no difference regarding hobby politics
in particular and ham radio politics in general.

Typically, those who try to make major changes in the world get
"hung," so to speak, (like Socrates, Galileo, or Jesus), or else THEY
do the hanging (like Alexander the Great, Stalin, or Hitler). Other
people just find some middle ground somewhere, while still others do
next to nothing "spectacular" and cross their fingers while hoping
they don't "get run over." Most people sincerely think that others
would do much better if they just did it THEIR way.

The fact is that everybody is right and everybody is wrong. Whatever
works best for you is all that you have unless you make major mid
course "corrections" from time to time. Some make frequent minor
"corrections" to best fit the changing world being experienced. Who
has more fun than people?

Lots of people manipulate and even abuse their way around life.
Everyone "manipulates" others to some degree, of course, but here
again, this goes from one end of the spectrum to the other. If you
buy flowers for your wife, aren't you trying to "manipulate" her? If
you do unto others as you would have them do unto you, aren't you
really trying to manipulate them?

One thing common to most humans in particular and mammals in general
is the desire to be loved and accepted. People need to be
recognized. Scientific American for November 2005 has an interesting
article about how the brain comes up with the feeling of "self." The
fact is that we have a very poor understanding of how the brain works,
much less how the universe works.

I still cannot fathom why ALL hams don't welcome an on the air hf
amateur information bulletin service on 20 and 80 meters. Free
information! Listen to it in the shack while you are soldering a
connection. Call in your comments, unedited, to an 800 number. A
wide variety of information including Newsline and RAIN. Taped
Dayton forums, interviews, hard hitting editorials, etc. etc. A great
beacon station to evaluate propagation! The answer is simply "hobby
politics" which overrides common sense. Jealousy! The human need
to be recognized and to feel important. If the bulletin service
threatens this self image the of the self importance of another
person, that person is against it, apparently. This is why humans
have wars and kill each other. They just can't agree on what is best
for all concerned. They can't accommodate much at all. Doesn't make
much sense to me, but I do recognize that it is a very common reality.
Such is life! Being a wild animal wouldn't seem to be so bad, by
comparison, it would seem to me!

Now, don't you feel more important already? Let's see, let's tune
across 20 meters. Not much there anymore is there? Not much
diversity. No wonder amateur radio is dying! 73 and GL.

Glenn Baxter, K1MAN

AARA Membership

www.K1MAN.com

GLENN BAXTER, K1MAN, AUTOBIOGRAPHY

BELGRADE LAKES INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED RESEARCH


Dr.Ace October 28th 05 10:31 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

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K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A

I have heard some of my greatest detractors say on the air (when they
didn't consider that I might just happen too be listening) things
something like:

1. "Glenn is so talented, but ..............."

2. "Glenn is so bright, but .........................."

3. "Glenn has the best bulletin service, but ...................."

4. "Glenn did such a great job on such-and-such emergency, but....."

5. "Glenn could be an alternative to ARRL, but...................."

6. "Glenn could have been so big, but.........................."

The problem is that nobody can please all the people all the time, and
if you try to do anything really significant in life, you are going to
**** a lot of other people off, no matter what. Church politics is a
good example of this, and I see no difference regarding hobby politics
in particular and ham radio politics in general.

Typically, those who try to make major changes in the world get
"hung," so to speak, (like Socrates, Galileo, or Jesus), or else THEY
do the hanging (like Alexander the Great, Stalin, or Hitler). Other
people just find some middle ground somewhere, while still others do
next to nothing "spectacular" and cross their fingers while hoping
they don't "get run over." Most people sincerely think that others
would do much better if they just did it THEIR way.

The fact is that everybody is right and everybody is wrong. Whatever
works best for you is all that you have unless you make major mid
course "corrections" from time to time. Some make frequent minor
"corrections" to best fit the changing world being experienced. Who
has more fun than people?

Lots of people manipulate and even abuse their way around life.
Everyone "manipulates" others to some degree, of course, but here
again, this goes from one end of the spectrum to the other. If you
buy flowers for your wife, aren't you trying to "manipulate" her? If
you do unto others as you would have them do unto you, aren't you
really trying to manipulate them?

One thing common to most humans in particular and mammals in general
is the desire to be loved and accepted. People need to be
recognized. Scientific American for November 2005 has an interesting
article about how the brain comes up with the feeling of "self." The
fact is that we have a very poor understanding of how the brain works,
much less how the universe works.

I still cannot fathom why ALL hams don't welcome an on the air hf
amateur information bulletin service on 20 and 80 meters. Free
information! Listen to it in the shack while you are soldering a
connection. Call in your comments, unedited, to an 800 number. A
wide variety of information including Newsline and RAIN. Taped
Dayton forums, interviews, hard hitting editorials, etc. etc. A great
beacon station to evaluate propagation! The answer is simply "hobby
politics" which overrides common sense. Jealousy! The human need
to be recognized and to feel important. If the bulletin service
threatens this self image the of the self importance of another
person, that person is against it, apparently. This is why humans
have wars and kill each other. They just can't agree on what is best
for all concerned. They can't accommodate much at all. Doesn't make
much sense to me, but I do recognize that it is a very common reality.
Such is life! Being a wild animal wouldn't seem to be so bad, by
comparison, it would seem to me!

Now, don't you feel more important already? Let's see, let's tune
across 20 meters. Not much there anymore is there? Not much
diversity. No wonder amateur radio is dying! 73 and GL.

Glenn Baxter, K1MAN

AARA Membership

www.K1MAN.com

GLENN BAXTER, K1MAN, AUTOBIOGRAPHY

BELGRADE LAKES INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED RESEARCH


Calling this an "AUTOBIOGRAPHY" is quite a stretch.
Ace - WH2T



wheeeeeee October 29th 05 05:25 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

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------- F.O.A.D.


[email protected] October 29th 05 09:27 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:16:45 -0500, Michael Gardner
wrote:

In article .com,
wrote:


Top posting because I don't want people to have to slide through this
again....

This is nothing more than a long list of rationalizations. Yes,
everyone makes mistakes and is at times wrong, but stupid statements
like "everyone is right and everyone is wrong" is just a justification
for being wrong most of the time. Welcome to my kill file and I hope I
never hear you on the air.


K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A


Not that I have anything against top posting, but if you just
quote a single line for context and snip the rest of the other
poster's crap, you don't end up continuing to propagate his moronic
message.

[email protected] October 29th 05 09:29 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:31:36 -0500, "Dr.Ace"
wrote:


GLENN BAXTER, K1MAN, AUTOBIOGRAPHY

BELGRADE LAKES INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED RESEARCH


Calling this an "AUTOBIOGRAPHY" is quite a stretch.
Ace - WH2T


And it's idiots like you who make me believe in top posting.
Thanks much for the 57th repeat of Glenn's wacko musings.

Unk October 30th 05 01:04 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:29:01 GMT, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:31:36 -0500, "Dr.Ace"
wrote:


GLENN BAXTER, K1MAN, AUTOBIOGRAPHY

BELGRADE LAKES INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED RESEARCH


Calling this an "AUTOBIOGRAPHY" is quite a stretch.
Ace - WH2T


And it's idiots like you who make me believe in top posting.
Thanks much for the 57th repeat of Glenn's wacko musings.



Jesus Christ, Clyde, chill.

unk

CBers=CHOADS October 30th 05 01:37 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
It will be a grand day when Glenn "the Choad" Baxtor fades away.
All of Amateur Radio **** on his grave.



[email protected] October 30th 05 08:50 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 18:04:13 -0700, Unk wrote:

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005 20:29:01 GMT, wrote:

On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 16:31:36 -0500, "Dr.Ace"
wrote:


GLENN BAXTER, K1MAN, AUTOBIOGRAPHY

BELGRADE LAKES INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED RESEARCH


Calling this an "AUTOBIOGRAPHY" is quite a stretch.
Ace - WH2T


And it's idiots like you who make me believe in top posting.
Thanks much for the 57th repeat of Glenn's wacko musings.



Jesus Christ, Clyde, chill.


Only arrogant ****s still tell others to "chill". Get out of
the 70s.


unk



Wayne P. Muckleroy October 30th 05 04:43 PM

How can...
 
....K1MAN compare himself (granted, indirectly) to the great minds:
Socrates, Galileo, and Jesus.

Oh... I see the connection! They were not hams and neither is K1MAN.


wrote in message
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K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A

I have heard some of my greatest detractors say on the air (when they
didn't consider that I might just happen too be listening) things
something like:

1. "Glenn is so talented, but ..............."

2. "Glenn is so bright, but .........................."

3. "Glenn has the best bulletin service, but ...................."

4. "Glenn did such a great job on such-and-such emergency, but....."

5. "Glenn could be an alternative to ARRL, but...................."

6. "Glenn could have been so big, but.........................."

The problem is that nobody can please all the people all the time, and
if you try to do anything really significant in life, you are going to
**** a lot of other people off, no matter what. Church politics is a
good example of this, and I see no difference regarding hobby politics
in particular and ham radio politics in general.

Typically, those who try to make major changes in the world get
"hung," so to speak, (like Socrates, Galileo, or Jesus), or else THEY
do the hanging (like Alexander the Great, Stalin, or Hitler). Other
people just find some middle ground somewhere, while still others do
next to nothing "spectacular" and cross their fingers while hoping
they don't "get run over." Most people sincerely think that others
would do much better if they just did it THEIR way.

The fact is that everybody is right and everybody is wrong. Whatever
works best for you is all that you have unless you make major mid
course "corrections" from time to time. Some make frequent minor
"corrections" to best fit the changing world being experienced. Who
has more fun than people?

Lots of people manipulate and even abuse their way around life.
Everyone "manipulates" others to some degree, of course, but here
again, this goes from one end of the spectrum to the other. If you
buy flowers for your wife, aren't you trying to "manipulate" her? If
you do unto others as you would have them do unto you, aren't you
really trying to manipulate them?

One thing common to most humans in particular and mammals in general
is the desire to be loved and accepted. People need to be
recognized. Scientific American for November 2005 has an interesting
article about how the brain comes up with the feeling of "self." The
fact is that we have a very poor understanding of how the brain works,
much less how the universe works.

I still cannot fathom why ALL hams don't welcome an on the air hf
amateur information bulletin service on 20 and 80 meters. Free
information! Listen to it in the shack while you are soldering a
connection. Call in your comments, unedited, to an 800 number. A
wide variety of information including Newsline and RAIN. Taped
Dayton forums, interviews, hard hitting editorials, etc. etc. A great
beacon station to evaluate propagation! The answer is simply "hobby
politics" which overrides common sense. Jealousy! The human need
to be recognized and to feel important. If the bulletin service
threatens this self image the of the self importance of another
person, that person is against it, apparently. This is why humans
have wars and kill each other. They just can't agree on what is best
for all concerned. They can't accommodate much at all. Doesn't make
much sense to me, but I do recognize that it is a very common reality.
Such is life! Being a wild animal wouldn't seem to be so bad, by
comparison, it would seem to me!

Now, don't you feel more important already? Let's see, let's tune
across 20 meters. Not much there anymore is there? Not much
diversity. No wonder amateur radio is dying! 73 and GL.

Glenn Baxter, K1MAN

AARA Membership

www.K1MAN.com

GLENN BAXTER, K1MAN, AUTOBIOGRAPHY

BELGRADE LAKES INSTITUTE FOR ADVANCED RESEARCH




Dana November 14th 05 02:51 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILLDIE WITHOUT THEM
 
I hear ya!!

On Sun, 30 Oct 2005, CBers=CHOADS wrote:

It will be a grand day when Glenn "the Choad" Baxtor fades away.
All of Amateur Radio **** on his grave.




Bob Sherin, W4ASX November 21st 05 05:21 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

W4ASX RESPONSE TIME, 11/18/2005 to K1MAN Essay ES051115

Open minded, I look for the wisdom, despite the nonsense that preceeded
it. In this case, Glenn, rambling masquerading as wisdom is what I
read. You'd do well to figure out what you're trying to say before you
say it. Readers want to see a topical sentence, not stream of
conscience writing. When the writing goes on and on without
materiality, then we conclude the writer is over impressed with
himself, writers who are generally poor listeners and readers. Such
people have difficulty perceiving reality.

I'm afraid, Glenn, that's where you fall in. Many of your
statements/conclusions are rife with fallacy, i.e. the fact that
someone fails to answer a CW call means he doesn't know the code. A
ham for 53 years, I do not answer code because I want to talk sideband.
So, by your logic, you question whether I ever knew the code on
account of ignoring a cw signal.

And this bit about law. God, Glenn, get a grip. Law is so deep and
intoxicating that even the most educated lawyer wouldn't make the
claims you do. Only someone who doesn't know what he doesn't know
would talk about law the way you do. Being honest, I know of one
exception: The jury trial you won against the law professor. Now, that
was a case you can be proud of, one you thought about and prepared for.
For the most part, however, you're way behind me in law, and I don't
fancy myself anything in law. I mean, consider what I don't know:
proof of facts, evidence, hearsay exceptions, theories of damages.
That's just within in the ambit of what comes immediately to mind;
imagine the big iceberg of law under the sea that isn't readily
visible.

At least when I write about you, I write on the basis of facts. For
example, when I alleged you were a narcissist, I drew directly from
your Wife, Bonny. Fact is, you don't know anything about Brian. I can
tell you that Brian is one hell of a genius in psychology, rendering my
psychological musings child's play.

You are certainly right when you say he sets up institutes and
pseudonyms, but don't many of us? My company is called Entertainment
Central, a registered dba of my person here in Florida. Don't you have
IARN and AARU? I've always thought that the way we Americans market
our material is through all kinds of names that are not necessarily our
own. In your mind, however, something is wrong when Brian employs
traditional Americana.

Glenn, again I reiterate at one point you were on the way up, but you
took a wrong turn. You are no great thinker, no great lawyer, a poor
writer, a poor communicator, a very, very poor ham, and a mentally
disordered individual, growing worse. Take stock of yourself, my
friend, and turn it around.

Bob Sherin,
W4ASX

P.S. If you send me material, please publish any response with the same
prominence as the original material. Thanks.
K1MAN Responds November 20, 2005
________________________________________
From:
To:

CC:


To: W4ASX

cc: K3VR

Date: 19 November 2005


You are right about two things, Bob: 1) I don't know anything about
Brian Crow, K3VR, and 2) Your iceberg analogy is a very goog one, but,
as an engineer, I do understand the scientific reasons why 9/10 of an
iceberg remains unseen under the water. I also understand the basic
principles that support the other 9/10 of the law, as you correctly
state that I do not know. I don't, of course.

Likewise, Bob, you don't know about 9/10 of my legal work or 9/10 of
my other work either. This, at best, will have to wait until all of
my books are finished and published at
www.K1MAN.com as well as in
"Scientific American," etc.

My biggest legal case to date, by far, is currently pending in a Maine
Superior Court.

Thanks for reading my essay. It was great to hear from you after so
many years. God bless you! 73 and GL de K1MAN.


"Great causes are never tried on the merits; but the cause is reduced
to particulars to suit the size of the partisans, and the contention
is ever hottest on minor matters." - Ralph Waldo Emerson - From his
essay "Nature" 1844.



W4ASX Replies, November 21, 2005

What a lame response, Glenn. God, I could tell you that my biggest
case is right now, and it will go down in legal history. That it very
well. But this doesn't address the level of my legal knowledge nor
countless cases of others that are likely more important than mine and
better advocated.

What I get from you Glenn is this notion of entitlement, that only
other special people can understand you. I may not know 9/10ths of
your law any more than you know 9/10ths of mine. However, I do know
what I read as public record, and far from good lawyering, it is
pitiful, in my view. I see the way you comport yourself as highly
disordered.

Let me give you some examples. You take civil matters and put them in
the criminal arena. Where do you think you're going to get with all
your felony affidavit complaints and those green cards? By making
those matters criminal, do you think the U.S. Attorney is going to
pursue them? To the contrary, everyone with whom I communicate in
privity thinks you're nuts.

A good part of law is in the chosen remedy. Consider: If you have a
complaint against a ham interfering with your broadcast, pursue the
traditional civil route. Get an injunction. Given good cause, it's a
piece of cake and you could join the FCC as an indispensable party (to
interpleed).

Your remedy with Riley is the epitome of what not to do from
perspectives too numerous to enumerate. If you sincerely believe all
the things you allege in the public forum, why not frame it in a 42 USC
1983 federal action, which, designed for the purpose, has teeth? Of
course, you're not going to get anywhere unless you learn how to plead,
your weakest part (of which I was aware). For, if your pleading
doesn't pass muster, the case will go nowhere, like all of your cases,
except the Corson one.

Now, permit me to enlighten you about that 9/10ths iceberg of law
underneath. It is not governed by engineering formulas. In this case,
it is the sheer intoxication that no matter how far you go in law on
any given subject, the library is still replete with more. And every
subject can be attacked from so many different angles. Far from
governed by formulas, it is governed by education: Smart legal people
have a notion of what they don't know.

Your very manner of expression about law, Glenn, is arrogant and
pompous. What successful advocate would call an FCC NAL with prima
facia efficacy puny and anemic? If that is your idea of Soloman's law,
you need more than legal help.

Every would-be author wants to be published. The more respected the
publication, the better the author looks. So, apparently you have some
massive need to tell me to watch for you in Scientific American. Need
I tell you to watch for my best seller "Death of a River Pilot?" While
I have high hopes, I don't know for sure that it will be a best seller
-- or even published, for that matter. Only time will tell. But
you've got this need to hype yourself in the present for something that
may happen in the future. Has seasonal depression got you down? (I
know that Maine isn't the brightest spot at this time of year.)

In the 1950s, I elmered Aaron Fishman, K1BAF, and in recent years he
was in fact published in Scientific American regarding the history of
sun spot cycles. Not one to promote himself, Aaron just one day sent
me the article, whereupon I marvelled at his achievement. He wasn't
aware of what an honor it was. Now Aaron is a mensch, not a pompous
ass, as, quite honestly, you come off.

Like your stream of consciousness musings, your reply is stilted.
Memoirs. Anyone who has a life worth studying can write a memoir, but,
from what I know, yours isn't worth reading, and neither is mine.
You're far more likely to wind up a classic case study in DSM.

Please pardon me for expressing the thoughts stirring within.
Obviously, if you are enamored with marching to the beat of your own,
off-beat drummer, proceed! Be assured that I will evaluate any of your
prospective writings unprejudiced and with an open heart. To be
honest, I like communicating compliments but have the opposite animus
based upon the totality of your utterances in the public domain.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX


Rabbi Phil November 21st 05 04:54 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
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W4ASX RESPONSE TIME, 11/18/2005 to K1MAN Essay ES051115



Sherin, you are a well known cry baby and one of the
biggest whiners in ham radio. Get a Life! You go from
controversy to controversy, spewing your psycho-babble.
Get a grip boy!




Bob Sherin, W4ASX November 21st 05 11:49 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
Rabbi Phil,

Before I post the latest exchange, let me address your commentary.
Yes, I do go from controversy to controversy, in ham radio because I
was apart of the subjects' lives of which I write. I like to think I'm
empathetic (see "K1MAN Has a Case"), using the First Amendment to make
a difference (see "The Florida Bar is Corrupt, both a newsgroup and an
article).

My life at 66 is extremely full: Angelic Wife of 12 years, great grand
children, a novel "Death of a River Pilot," slated for publication
(hopefully) in the future, from retirement a new business called
Entertainment Central, which is more successful than any of my
businesses in my "working days.'

Now informed, perhaps you need ask yourself about getting your own
life, lest you continue with wasted words on faulty predicates.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX

And now the latest W4ASX/K1MAN Exchange for those interested.

W4ASX Answers K1MAN's Haughty Quotation 11/21/2005

Trouble is, when you think you know more than the regulators, when you
think you can interpret the Constitution without the Supreme Court,
when you see agents and conspiracies all around you, when you assume
falsely, when you are unwilling to listen and comprehend your reading,
when you resort to the bombast of glittering generailities, instead of
addressing specifics, when you break your arm complimenting yourself on
stellar legal knowledge while, at the same time, declaring essentially
you won't be regulated, your deathknell..

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance."
Confucius quotes (China's most famous teacher, philosopher, and
political theorist, 551-479 BC)

In a message dated 11/21/2005 3:39:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
K1MAN14275 writes:


To: W4ASX

From: K1MAN

Date: 21 November 2005

Bob,

"Whatsoever things are true, whatsoever
things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are
pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good
report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on
these things." - Paul to the Philippians

73 and GL de K1MAN


Morris November 21st 05 11:55 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
W5ASX to K1MAN 11/21/2005
Force without wisdom falls of its own weight.
Horace (65 BC - 8 BC), Odes

K1MAN to W4ASX 11/21/2005

In a message dated 11/21/2005 6:19:38 PM Eastern Standard Time,
K1MAN14275 writes:



Bob,

Paul wrote to the Philippians, New Living Translation:

1-28. "Don't be intimidated by your enemies. This will be a sign to
them that they are going to be destroyed, but that you are going to be
saved, even by God himself."


73 and GL de K1MAN

W4ASX Answers K1MAN's Haughty Quotation 11/21/2005

Trouble is, when you think you know more than the regulators, when you
think you can interpret the Constitution without the Supreme Court,
when you see agents and conspiracies all around you, when you assume
falsely, when you are unwilling to listen and comprehend your reading,
when you resort to the bombast of glittering generailities, instead of
addressing specifics, when you break your arm complimenting yourself on
stellar legal knowledge while, at the same time, declaring essentially
you won't be regulated, your deathknell..

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance."
Confucius quotes (China's most famous teacher, philosopher, and
political theorist, 551-479 BC)

In a message dated 11/21/2005 3:39:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
K1MAN14275 writes:


To: W4ASX

From: K1MAN

Date: 21 November 2005

Bob,

"Whatsoever things are true, whatsoever
things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are
pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good
report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on
these things." - Paul to the Philippians

73 and GL de K1MAN


Bullcrap Bob November 21st 05 11:58 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

You are so full of Bull**** that your eyes are brown Sherin.

You were the only 14313 player that people would actually
turn off and go listen to another freq.

When Bob talks, people sleep,
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Bob Sherin, W4ASX November 22nd 05 12:01 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
You obviously read, comprehended, formed analytical thought and
expressed it. Accordingly, your response belies its own content.

Bob Sherin, W 4ASX


Bullcrap Bob November 22nd 05 12:06 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
oups.com...
You obviously read, comprehended, formed analytical thought and
expressed it. Accordingly, your response belies its own content.



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Babling Bob November 22nd 05 04:04 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Morris" wrote in message
oups.com...
My friend, I don't mind being lampooned

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blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah,
and Bablin Bob bables on ad nauseam................blah blah blah blah
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Cry Baby Bob November 22nd 05 07:01 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
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Bob Sherin, W4ASX November 22nd 05 07:50 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
You appear to be the only one crying -- in your erudite contribution.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX


Bob Whines More November 22nd 05 08:07 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
oups.com...
You appear to be the only one crying -- in your erudite contribution.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX



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Bob Sherin, W4ASX November 22nd 05 08:09 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
Good friends, Above an imposter with a repetitive refrain, not me.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX


Bob Whines More November 22nd 05 08:14 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
ups.com...
Good friends, Above an imposter with a repetitive refrain, not me.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX



Not me Not me
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[email protected] November 22nd 05 08:53 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
That or for his constant audio checks.


Bawling Bobby November 22nd 05 08:53 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

Poor Bob, no more audience on 20 meters for his diatribes.





Bob Sherin, W4ASX November 23rd 05 04:17 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
To the contrary, I find 20 meters prime spectrum of interesting hams.
Taking a break from business, I had the pleasure of talking all day on
20, only a minor part about the K1MAN story.

I'm glad you raised 20, because Glenn has weighed in within this thread
on the subject, decrying its decay.. Contrary to his view, I find 20
meters upbeat. Quite a change from a short time ago when Riley came on
board. Respect has replaced disrespect, a decent atmosphere has
replaced one which was polluted (now the kids can listen), contesters
are as avid as ever, friendly nets are ordinary operations, and hams,
for the most part, act courteously toward one another.

In my view, 20 has undergone a sea shift for the better. Diatribes?
If that is the way you wish to characterize this type of communication,
be my guest.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX


Bwah Bwah Bob November 23rd 05 04:37 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
oups.com...
To the contrary, I find 20 meters prime spectrum

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Blah Blah Blah Bob November 23rd 05 07:14 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
oups.com...
To the contrary, I find 20 meters prime spectrum of interesting hams.
Taking a break from business, I had the pleasure of talking all day on
20, only a minor part about the K1MAN story.
,

At the risk, "Preacher", of being characterized as being one of the
uninteresting Hams on 20 meters, may I?
Yes, you often do talk "all day on 20". And you talk, and you talk, and you
talk. At the end of the day, Bob, you have spent hours talking, and in the
process you actually say little.

Yes, previous posters are, in the vernacular, 'right on the money' when they
comment that many of them have made it a habit to spin their VFO to another
frequency when you arrive on scene. Why do you suppose this is, Bob?
Obviously what you have to say/bloviate is of little to no importance to the
majority of Hams within earshot of you, but that hardly gave you reason to
pause, did it? You blab on, undeterred, and are somehow convinced that you
are offering something of interest and value.

And, Bob? Please DO try to be just a tad bit less verbose. I realize that
you fancy yourself as a wordsmith, but try, at least, to keep your
vocabulary within the context of what it is you are attempting to convey.
You are, for the most part, not dazzling any of us with your attempts at
brilliance.
,
In my view, 20 has undergone a sea shift for the better. Diatribes?
If that is the way you wish to characterize this type of communication,
be my guest.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX
,

Yes, Bob. In your view I am sure it has. Meanwhile, Bob, many of us will
continue to do as we have been doing when we hear you on 20M. Turn you off.





Bob Sherin, W4ASX November 23rd 05 02:59 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
Blah, Blah,

Turn me off; that is surely your prerogative. Based upon my results,
though, for every individual exercising your type of disgression, there
are hundreds who call, talk and befriend. My cup runneth over.

Now the latest on K1MAN as of November 23, 2005

K1MAN email to Riley Hollingsworth, Esq, FCC of November 22, 2005

"you QSYed to 14.313 so as to
wipe out everyone up there! You were in clear violation of FCC rules
by using more power than required to maintain your amateur radio
communications, and you deserve a $22,000 NAL!"

Last night, troubled by the K1MAN email to the FCC, I mulled it. And
what I came up with is dispositive of K1MAN's final disposition. Not
one to readily use the word lie, meaning misrepresentation with
scienter, I'm compelled to write that K1MAN's intention yesterday was
to deceive the FCC.

Here's why. "you QSYed (changed frequency) so as to wipe out everyone
up there!" Here K1MAN arrogates unto himself knowledge of intentional
interference and charges that I went on 14.313 to "wipe out everyone up
there." Nothing could be further from the truth. I made one
transmission the "Is this frequency occupied?" When the answer was
affirmative, I moved.

By making a false charge and failing to produce the mitigating or
exculpatory information of what, in fact, happened, K1MAN, who holds
himself out as a ham radio leader, maliciously misleads our regulator,
the FCC. Where a good part of ham radio is voluntary compliance and
cooperation in the resolution of problems, K1MAN does not possess the
moral character to be part of this colossus..

If this were his only transgression, a fair minded person might be
prone to let it slide with a slap on the wrist. However, the on-air
course of his performance shows that his conduct here is but a minor
part thereof.

Please make this part of the K1MAN record at the FCC.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX
Miami, Florida


Bob Sherin, W4ASX November 23rd 05 03:39 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
All right, here's a well drawn post in which I can sink my teeth. Bob
Sherin, W4ASX

Blah Blah Blah Bob
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Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:14:16 -0500
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"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
oups.com...
To the contrary, I find 20 meters prime spectrum of interesting hams.
Taking a break from business, I had the pleasure of talking all day on
20, only a minor part about the K1MAN story.
,


At the risk, "Preacher", of being characterized as being one of the
uninteresting Hams on 20 meters, may I?
Yes, you often do talk "all day on 20". And you talk, and you talk, and
you
talk. At the end of the day, Bob, you have spent hours talking, and in
the
process you actually say little.


Yes, previous posters are, in the vernacular, 'right on the money' when
they
comment that many of them have made it a habit to spin their VFO to
another
frequency when you arrive on scene. Why do you suppose this is, Bob?
Obviously what you have to say/bloviate is of little to no importance
to the
majority of Hams within earshot of you, but that hardly gave you reason
to
pause, did it? You blab on, undeterred, and are somehow convinced that
you
are offering something of interest and value.


And, Bob? Please DO try to be just a tad bit less verbose. I realize
that
you fancy yourself as a wordsmith, but try, at least, to keep your
vocabulary within the context of what it is you are attempting to
convey.
You are, for the most part, not dazzling any of us with your attempts
at
brilliance.
,
In my view, 20 has undergone a sea shift for the better. Diatribes?
If that is the way you wish to characterize this type of communication,

be my guest.


Bob Sherin, W4ASX
,


Yes, Bob. In your view I am sure it has. Meanwhile, Bob, many of us
will
continue to do as we have been doing when we hear you on 20M. Turn you
off.

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W4ASX Replies 11/23/2005

Blah Blah Blah,

Thank you for your post. I especially appreciate it because your
points and position, well expressed, are clear.

Pluralism, the concept essentially of "different strokes for different
folks" is the responsive topical sentence. For sure, the realization
is there that not everyone is interested in the subject-matter of my
posts. Also, that writing, as an art form, is challenging. What turns
me on is to sink my teeth into a story of which I have unique knowlege
and try to reach an audience with that knowledge who come away
entertained and better informed.

Well understood is the difficulty of word-smithing. For our language
is so very rich when wielded to its full extent. All words have
semantical frameworks, so the choice is exacting. Does my effort to
write mean I'm a great writer? No. Ever since trying to go beyond
myself in writing 30 years ago, I've struggled to improve, marvelling
at those successful people whose text leaps off the page.

Notwithstanding, I think through my posts, spend time editing, read
responses with arespect, then try to participate, changing according to
the input coming back.

If you put my call and name into a newsgroup search, you'd be surprised
with the results. This isn't the only place nor subject on which I
post. I've posted in groups on religion and law as well. I'm also a
published author in publications too numerous to list here, but here
are some: The Miami Herald, The Miami News, Computer World, Datamation,
the Westside Gazette, Florida Skip, South Florida Business Journal.

I was paid for some of the articles. So to tell me, I'm not read is
clearly false. I know I'm read from your responsive posts, calls,
emails, and knowledge people often show who communicate with me. You
can also read it on the Net: One ham posted (about the KV4FZ story):
to understand the KV4FZ story, "see Bob Sherin, W4ASX's work."

More, to critcize operation on ham radio is self defeating. If we need
anything, we need to get the hams out and on the air, whether it be
code, rag chewing or contests. To characterize my operation on ham
radio is a waste of time in the face of my disclosure that I'm up to my
ears in business and use this collosssus for relaxation, is a
misrepresentation. The fact is, I'm not on much of the time when I'm
on the road doing gigs.

Whatever your opinions, fellow hams, have a happy holiday, at a time
when I have 3 gigs scheduled, moving my 85 pound Peavy speakers and
sound systems around. You enjoy while I work.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX


Big Mouth Bob November 23rd 05 06:00 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
ups.com...

Turn me off; that is surely your prerogative.

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Big Mouth Bob November 23rd 05 06:02 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
ups.com...
All right, here's a well drawn post in which I can

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Lights Out November 23rd 05 06:24 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
ups.com...
Blah, Blah,

Turn me off; that is surely your prerogative. Based upon my results,
though, for every individual exercising your type of disgression, there
are hundreds who call, talk and befriend. My cup runneth over.

Now the latest on snip

It is not only your cup that runneth over, Bob.



Big Mouth Bob November 23rd 05 06:36 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

Bob has been beside himself, ever since he lost his job as
kv4fz's spin doctor.







Diarrhea-Mouth Bob November 23rd 05 07:26 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
oups.com...
You obviously read

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How many 75 meter nets have now declared you
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Morris November 23rd 05 08:12 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
i haven't been on 75 meters for years.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX


Diarrhea-Mouth Bob November 23rd 05 08:26 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Morris" wrote in message
ups.com...
i haven't been on 75 meters for years.




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Bob Sherin, W4ASX November 23rd 05 09:28 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 
Thread Readers,

Please be aware that the pseudonyms above may likely be one person, a
K1MAN supporter, who, unable to meet the subject-matter, is attempting
to undermine and detract from the posts. When a pseudonym is pitted
against a real person, a ham, with a real name, the discussion is
biased, because while the unidentifed knows about the reality of the
opposing poster, the identified poster doesn't have a provable clue nor
can he assume with whom he is debating.

Permit me, for a moment, to point out how this relates to the above
post about 75 meter operations. Though I haven't been down there in
years, there was a time when I was very much into 75 meters, primarily
because, like many others, it gave me an opportunity to design, build
and test low band antennas.

To be honest, I never felt comfortable on 75 meters, nor did I feel
that I fit in for the most part. There were groups, however, in which
I enjoyed participating, like the Knights of the Round Table. The
above poster knows all this, so taking advantage of his knowledge, he
delivers a cheap shot. And because he remains incognito, there can be
no impeachable dialogue back.

This is why anonymous posts sully real reporting on these Newsgroups.
They can impart a wholly false impression -- of many against one when
the many is actually only one, of innuendo when the issue raised by the
poster cannot be related to the poster's actual behavior, or wholly
fabricated information designed to discredit is disseminated behind a
mask of anonymity.

I ask only readers that you ponder the subject-matter of this thread
and not the tangential calumny, invective, rumor and half baked truths.
This is an important story to ham radio, one in which I've been joined
and outdone by the masterful and all-encompassing research of K3VR,
Brian.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX

Bob Sherin, W4ASX


Diarrhea-Mouth Bob November 23rd 05 10:11 PM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
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Thread Readers,

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Dr.Ace November 24th 05 12:54 AM

K1MAN ESSAY: E051028A - WELCOME AARA AND IARN - HAM RADIO WILL DIE WITHOUT THEM
 

"Bob Sherin, W4ASX" wrote in message
oups.com...
Thread Readers,

Please be aware that the pseudonyms above may likely be one person, a
K1MAN supporter, who, unable to meet the subject-matter, is attempting
to undermine and detract from the posts. When a pseudonym is pitted
against a real person, a ham, with a real name, the discussion is
biased, because while the unidentifed knows about the reality of the
opposing poster, the identified poster doesn't have a provable clue nor
can he assume with whom he is debating.

Permit me, for a moment, to point out how this relates to the above
post about 75 meter operations. Though I haven't been down there in
years, there was a time when I was very much into 75 meters, primarily
because, like many others, it gave me an opportunity to design, build
and test low band antennas.

To be honest, I never felt comfortable on 75 meters, nor did I feel
that I fit in for the most part. There were groups, however, in which
I enjoyed participating, like the Knights of the Round Table. The
above poster knows all this, so taking advantage of his knowledge, he
delivers a cheap shot. And because he remains incognito, there can be
no impeachable dialogue back.

This is why anonymous posts sully real reporting on these Newsgroups.
They can impart a wholly false impression -- of many against one when
the many is actually only one, of innuendo when the issue raised by the
poster cannot be related to the poster's actual behavior, or wholly
fabricated information designed to discredit is disseminated behind a
mask of anonymity.

I ask only readers that you ponder the subject-matter of this thread
and not the tangential calumny, invective, rumor and half baked truths.
This is an important story to ham radio, one in which I've been joined
and outdone by the masterful and all-encompassing research of K3VR,
Brian.

Bob Sherin, W4ASX

Bob Sherin, W4ASX

As far as I am concerned , No Call Sign = No Credibility .
Ace - WH2T




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