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Kevin Gibson September 29th 03 02:31 AM

Logbook of the World (LoTW) Yahoo Group
 
I've created a Yahoo discussion group for the ARRL Logbook of the
World. Any LoTW user is invited to join at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ARRL-LOTW

See you there.

Hank Oredson September 29th 03 03:18 AM


"Kevin Gibson" wrote in message
om...
I've created a Yahoo discussion group for the ARRL Logbook of the
World. Any LoTW user is invited to join at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ARRL-LOTW

See you there.


Why not discuss it here?

LOTW might be interesting once it is working.

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Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
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Hank Oredson September 29th 03 03:18 AM


"Kevin Gibson" wrote in message
om...
I've created a Yahoo discussion group for the ARRL Logbook of the
World. Any LoTW user is invited to join at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ARRL-LOTW

See you there.


Why not discuss it here?

LOTW might be interesting once it is working.

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net



KC3AK September 29th 03 05:41 AM

I agree, more people need to submit logs. I have 1280 log entries and
only 3 hits! Come on, put those logs up on LoTW!

Terry
KC3AK

Hank Oredson wrote:
"Kevin Gibson" wrote in message
om...

I've created a Yahoo discussion group for the ARRL Logbook of the
World. Any LoTW user is invited to join at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ARRL-LOTW

See you there.



Why not discuss it here?

LOTW might be interesting once it is working.



KC3AK September 29th 03 05:41 AM

I agree, more people need to submit logs. I have 1280 log entries and
only 3 hits! Come on, put those logs up on LoTW!

Terry
KC3AK

Hank Oredson wrote:
"Kevin Gibson" wrote in message
om...

I've created a Yahoo discussion group for the ARRL Logbook of the
World. Any LoTW user is invited to join at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ARRL-LOTW

See you there.



Why not discuss it here?

LOTW might be interesting once it is working.



Hank Oredson September 29th 03 06:48 AM

About 6500 log entries, and 20 hits.

But it is simply too complex to use ... they gotta fix that.

--

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Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net

"KC3AK" wrote in message ...
I agree, more people need to submit logs. I have 1280 log entries and
only 3 hits! Come on, put those logs up on LoTW!

Terry
KC3AK

Hank Oredson wrote:
"Kevin Gibson" wrote in message
om...

I've created a Yahoo discussion group for the ARRL Logbook of the
World. Any LoTW user is invited to join at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ARRL-LOTW

See you there.



Why not discuss it here?

LOTW might be interesting once it is working.





Hank Oredson September 29th 03 06:48 AM

About 6500 log entries, and 20 hits.

But it is simply too complex to use ... they gotta fix that.

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net

"KC3AK" wrote in message ...
I agree, more people need to submit logs. I have 1280 log entries and
only 3 hits! Come on, put those logs up on LoTW!

Terry
KC3AK

Hank Oredson wrote:
"Kevin Gibson" wrote in message
om...

I've created a Yahoo discussion group for the ARRL Logbook of the
World. Any LoTW user is invited to join at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ARRL-LOTW

See you there.



Why not discuss it here?

LOTW might be interesting once it is working.





Peter Lemken September 29th 03 07:20 AM

Hank Oredson wrote:
About 6500 log entries, and 20 hits.

But it is simply too complex to use ... they gotta fix that.


I believe they have found a good compromise between security, complexity and
ease of use.

I particularly applaud them for providing a working Linux client, together
with the source code. With that, it should be easy to integrate LOTW into
other log applications, either natively or as a plug in.

There is no other way than a digital certificate to positively and uniquely
identifiy a participant, but in a couple of years we will all have a digital
identity and sending in snail mail to verify one's existence will no longer
be necessary.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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Peter Lemken September 29th 03 07:20 AM

Hank Oredson wrote:
About 6500 log entries, and 20 hits.

But it is simply too complex to use ... they gotta fix that.


I believe they have found a good compromise between security, complexity and
ease of use.

I particularly applaud them for providing a working Linux client, together
with the source code. With that, it should be easy to integrate LOTW into
other log applications, either natively or as a plug in.

There is no other way than a digital certificate to positively and uniquely
identifiy a participant, but in a couple of years we will all have a digital
identity and sending in snail mail to verify one's existence will no longer
be necessary.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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Joop Stakenborg September 29th 03 02:33 PM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:20:26 +0000, Peter Lemken wrote:


I particularly applaud them for providing a working Linux client, together
with the source code. With that, it should be easy to integrate LOTW into
other log applications, either natively or as a plug in.


Have you studied the license under which LoTW is distributed? I am unsure
whether linking against their libraries is allowed at all:

5. Products derived from or including this software may not use "Logbook
of the World" or "LoTW" or any other American Radio Relay League,
Incorporated trademarks or servicemarks in their names without prior
written permission of the ARRL.

So I would have to ask permission to link against the LoTW libraries? So
much for distributing source-code.

If only they would have picked a more sensible license, I might have
started using LoTW. Their license rules kindof suck, read the LICENSE file
included with the source code.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin


Joop, PG4I

Joop Stakenborg September 29th 03 02:33 PM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:20:26 +0000, Peter Lemken wrote:


I particularly applaud them for providing a working Linux client, together
with the source code. With that, it should be easy to integrate LOTW into
other log applications, either natively or as a plug in.


Have you studied the license under which LoTW is distributed? I am unsure
whether linking against their libraries is allowed at all:

5. Products derived from or including this software may not use "Logbook
of the World" or "LoTW" or any other American Radio Relay League,
Incorporated trademarks or servicemarks in their names without prior
written permission of the ARRL.

So I would have to ask permission to link against the LoTW libraries? So
much for distributing source-code.

If only they would have picked a more sensible license, I might have
started using LoTW. Their license rules kindof suck, read the LICENSE file
included with the source code.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin


Joop, PG4I

Peter Lemken September 29th 03 04:56 PM

Joop Stakenborg wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:20:26 +0000, Peter Lemken wrote:


I particularly applaud them for providing a working Linux client, together
with the source code. With that, it should be easy to integrate LOTW into
other log applications, either natively or as a plug in.


Have you studied the license under which LoTW is distributed? I am unsure
whether linking against their libraries is allowed at all:

5. Products derived from or including this software may not use "Logbook
of the World" or "LoTW" or any other American Radio Relay League,
Incorporated trademarks or servicemarks in their names without prior
written permission of the ARRL.

So I would have to ask permission to link against the LoTW libraries? So
much for distributing source-code.


I actually read the license before the posting and stumbled upon this
paragraph. However, please see that it refers to the *name* of a product you
actually want to use, it is a trademark restriction, not a copyright
restriction. In a previous paragraph you will find that the source
can freely distributed and *modified*, and that's what counts.

If only they would have picked a more sensible license, I might have
started using LoTW. Their license rules kindof suck, read the LICENSE file
included with the source code.


I feel you may want to read it again from a different angle. As far as I can
see, there are no restrictions of use, either as plugins or integration into
a new product, quite on the contrary.

The introductory sentence makes this rather clear:

"Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
met"


Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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Peter Lemken September 29th 03 04:56 PM

Joop Stakenborg wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:20:26 +0000, Peter Lemken wrote:


I particularly applaud them for providing a working Linux client, together
with the source code. With that, it should be easy to integrate LOTW into
other log applications, either natively or as a plug in.


Have you studied the license under which LoTW is distributed? I am unsure
whether linking against their libraries is allowed at all:

5. Products derived from or including this software may not use "Logbook
of the World" or "LoTW" or any other American Radio Relay League,
Incorporated trademarks or servicemarks in their names without prior
written permission of the ARRL.

So I would have to ask permission to link against the LoTW libraries? So
much for distributing source-code.


I actually read the license before the posting and stumbled upon this
paragraph. However, please see that it refers to the *name* of a product you
actually want to use, it is a trademark restriction, not a copyright
restriction. In a previous paragraph you will find that the source
can freely distributed and *modified*, and that's what counts.

If only they would have picked a more sensible license, I might have
started using LoTW. Their license rules kindof suck, read the LICENSE file
included with the source code.


I feel you may want to read it again from a different angle. As far as I can
see, there are no restrictions of use, either as plugins or integration into
a new product, quite on the contrary.

The introductory sentence makes this rather clear:

"Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
met"


Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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[email protected] September 29th 03 07:23 PM

On 29 Sep 2003 15:56:18 GMT, Peter Lemken wrote:
Joop Stakenborg wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:20:26 +0000, Peter Lemken wrote:


I particularly applaud them for providing a working Linux client, together
with the source code. With that, it should be easy to integrate LOTW into
other log applications, either natively or as a plug in.


Have you studied the license under which LoTW is distributed? I am unsure
whether linking against their libraries is allowed at all:

5. Products derived from or including this software may not use "Logbook
of the World" or "LoTW" or any other American Radio Relay League,
Incorporated trademarks or servicemarks in their names without prior
written permission of the ARRL.

So I would have to ask permission to link against the LoTW libraries? So
much for distributing source-code.


I actually read the license before the posting and stumbled upon this
paragraph. However, please see that it refers to the *name* of a product you
actually want to use, it is a trademark restriction, not a copyright
restriction. In a previous paragraph you will find that the source
can freely distributed and *modified*, and that's what counts.

If only they would have picked a more sensible license, I might have
started using LoTW. Their license rules kindof suck, read the LICENSE file
included with the source code.


I feel you may want to read it again from a different angle. As far as I can
see, there are no restrictions of use, either as plugins or integration into
a new product, quite on the contrary.

The introductory sentence makes this rather clear:

"Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
met"


- hmm... sorta BSDish, isn't it? at least the source is available! this
should help adoption by the Linux/BSD crowd?


Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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[email protected] September 29th 03 07:23 PM

On 29 Sep 2003 15:56:18 GMT, Peter Lemken wrote:
Joop Stakenborg wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 06:20:26 +0000, Peter Lemken wrote:


I particularly applaud them for providing a working Linux client, together
with the source code. With that, it should be easy to integrate LOTW into
other log applications, either natively or as a plug in.


Have you studied the license under which LoTW is distributed? I am unsure
whether linking against their libraries is allowed at all:

5. Products derived from or including this software may not use "Logbook
of the World" or "LoTW" or any other American Radio Relay League,
Incorporated trademarks or servicemarks in their names without prior
written permission of the ARRL.

So I would have to ask permission to link against the LoTW libraries? So
much for distributing source-code.


I actually read the license before the posting and stumbled upon this
paragraph. However, please see that it refers to the *name* of a product you
actually want to use, it is a trademark restriction, not a copyright
restriction. In a previous paragraph you will find that the source
can freely distributed and *modified*, and that's what counts.

If only they would have picked a more sensible license, I might have
started using LoTW. Their license rules kindof suck, read the LICENSE file
included with the source code.


I feel you may want to read it again from a different angle. As far as I can
see, there are no restrictions of use, either as plugins or integration into
a new product, quite on the contrary.

The introductory sentence makes this rather clear:

"Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are
met"


- hmm... sorta BSDish, isn't it? at least the source is available! this
should help adoption by the Linux/BSD crowd?


Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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[email protected] September 29th 03 10:49 PM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:23:55 GMT, wrote:

- hmm... sorta BSDish, isn't it? at least the source is available! this
should help adoption by the Linux/BSD crowd?


Are all three of them hams ?

73, Jim KH2D


[email protected] September 29th 03 10:49 PM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:23:55 GMT, wrote:

- hmm... sorta BSDish, isn't it? at least the source is available! this
should help adoption by the Linux/BSD crowd?


Are all three of them hams ?

73, Jim KH2D


Dave, AA6YQ September 30th 03 09:09 AM

re "easy to integrate LOTW into other log applications" -- where's the
documented, public API?

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:
About 6500 log entries, and 20 hits.

But it is simply too complex to use ... they gotta fix that.


I believe they have found a good compromise between security, complexity

and
ease of use.

I particularly applaud them for providing a working Linux client, together
with the source code. With that, it should be easy to integrate LOTW into
other log applications, either natively or as a plug in.

There is no other way than a digital certificate to positively and

uniquely
identifiy a participant, but in a couple of years we will all have a

digital
identity and sending in snail mail to verify one's existence will no

longer
be necessary.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
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Überprüfung der Mailfunktion des Absenders dar und wird mit einer
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Dave, AA6YQ September 30th 03 09:09 AM

re "easy to integrate LOTW into other log applications" -- where's the
documented, public API?

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:
About 6500 log entries, and 20 hits.

But it is simply too complex to use ... they gotta fix that.


I believe they have found a good compromise between security, complexity

and
ease of use.

I particularly applaud them for providing a working Linux client, together
with the source code. With that, it should be easy to integrate LOTW into
other log applications, either natively or as a plug in.

There is no other way than a digital certificate to positively and

uniquely
identifiy a participant, but in a couple of years we will all have a

digital
identity and sending in snail mail to verify one's existence will no

longer
be necessary.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
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Überprüfung der Mailfunktion des Absenders dar und wird mit einer
Bearbeitungsgebühr von EUR 1000,- in Rechnung gestellt.




Peter Lemken September 30th 03 10:10 AM

Dave, AA6YQ wrote:
re "easy to integrate LOTW into other log applications" -- where's the
documented, public API?


In the source code?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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Peter Lemken September 30th 03 10:10 AM

Dave, AA6YQ wrote:
re "easy to integrate LOTW into other log applications" -- where's the
documented, public API?


In the source code?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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[email protected] September 30th 03 01:44 PM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:49:29 GMT, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:23:55 GMT,
wrote:

- hmm... sorta BSDish, isn't it? at least the source is available! this
should help adoption by the Linux/BSD crowd?


Are all three of them hams ?


- but does that matter? whether it's one, two, or a dozen or a million,
the ability to participate is important...

- for accessibility issues, perhaps this will help blind hams too?
GNOME (
http://www.gnome.org) has good support for such applications,
and with some help from fellow programmers, perhaps the ability to
contribute or use electronic qls'ng/logging can be extended to
fellow amateur radio operators around the world...

- just my $0.02

73, Jim KH2D


[email protected] September 30th 03 01:44 PM

On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 21:49:29 GMT, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:23:55 GMT,
wrote:

- hmm... sorta BSDish, isn't it? at least the source is available! this
should help adoption by the Linux/BSD crowd?


Are all three of them hams ?


- but does that matter? whether it's one, two, or a dozen or a million,
the ability to participate is important...

- for accessibility issues, perhaps this will help blind hams too?
GNOME (
http://www.gnome.org) has good support for such applications,
and with some help from fellow programmers, perhaps the ability to
contribute or use electronic qls'ng/logging can be extended to
fellow amateur radio operators around the world...

- just my $0.02

73, Jim KH2D


Hank Oredson September 30th 03 04:07 PM


"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Dave, AA6YQ wrote:
re "easy to integrate LOTW into other log applications" -- where's the
documented, public API?


In the source code?

Peter Lemken



I've not located the sources yet.
Where does one get them?

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net



Hank Oredson September 30th 03 04:07 PM


"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Dave, AA6YQ wrote:
re "easy to integrate LOTW into other log applications" -- where's the
documented, public API?


In the source code?

Peter Lemken



I've not located the sources yet.
Where does one get them?

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net



Peter Lemken September 30th 03 05:01 PM

Hank Oredson wrote:

I've not located the sources yet.


Where have you looked?

Where does one get them?


www.google.com

Peter Lemken
Berlin

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Peter Lemken September 30th 03 05:01 PM

Hank Oredson wrote:

I've not located the sources yet.


Where have you looked?

Where does one get them?


www.google.com

Peter Lemken
Berlin

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Hank Oredson September 30th 03 06:13 PM


"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

I've not located the sources yet.


Where have you looked?


ARRL, TrustedQSL, SourceForge.

Where does one get them?


www.google.com


The only sources I can find are just the little applications
for Trusted QSL. Cannot find anything with an API to
the database. Seems that API is via email, or the upload
page on the web site. Maybe I missed something ...

--

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Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net



Hank Oredson September 30th 03 06:13 PM


"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

I've not located the sources yet.


Where have you looked?


ARRL, TrustedQSL, SourceForge.

Where does one get them?


www.google.com


The only sources I can find are just the little applications
for Trusted QSL. Cannot find anything with an API to
the database. Seems that API is via email, or the upload
page on the web site. Maybe I missed something ...

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net



Peter Lemken September 30th 03 06:18 PM

Hank Oredson wrote:

The only sources I can find are just the little applications
for Trusted QSL. Cannot find anything with an API to
the database. Seems that API is via email, or the upload
page on the web site. Maybe I missed something ...


I doubt you searched with the relevant keywords.

"lotw" "arrl"

http://trustedqsl.sourceforge.net/lotwspec.pdf

as the first hit on google.

Really.

Peter Lemken
Berlin

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Peter Lemken September 30th 03 06:18 PM

Hank Oredson wrote:

The only sources I can find are just the little applications
for Trusted QSL. Cannot find anything with an API to
the database. Seems that API is via email, or the upload
page on the web site. Maybe I missed something ...


I doubt you searched with the relevant keywords.

"lotw" "arrl"

http://trustedqsl.sourceforge.net/lotwspec.pdf

as the first hit on google.

Really.

Peter Lemken
Berlin

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Hank Oredson September 30th 03 06:29 PM


"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

The only sources I can find are just the little applications
for Trusted QSL. Cannot find anything with an API to
the database. Seems that API is via email, or the upload
page on the web site. Maybe I missed something ...


I doubt you searched with the relevant keywords.

"lotw" "arrl"

http://trustedqsl.sourceforge.net/lotwspec.pdf

as the first hit on google.

Really.



3rd hit. Already have that document.
No API specification in that document.

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Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
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Hank Oredson September 30th 03 06:29 PM


"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

The only sources I can find are just the little applications
for Trusted QSL. Cannot find anything with an API to
the database. Seems that API is via email, or the upload
page on the web site. Maybe I missed something ...


I doubt you searched with the relevant keywords.

"lotw" "arrl"

http://trustedqsl.sourceforge.net/lotwspec.pdf

as the first hit on google.

Really.



3rd hit. Already have that document.
No API specification in that document.

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net



Peter Lemken September 30th 03 07:31 PM

Hank Oredson wrote:

3rd hit. Already have that document.
No API specification in that document.


OK, Hank, you seem to need spoonfeeding:

http://www.trustedqsl.org/

Not very obvious and *very* hard to find. But it has an FAQ.

http://cesnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sou...qsllib-doc.zip

That's on Sourceforge. You *did* look there, didn't you?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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Peter Lemken September 30th 03 07:31 PM

Hank Oredson wrote:

3rd hit. Already have that document.
No API specification in that document.


OK, Hank, you seem to need spoonfeeding:

http://www.trustedqsl.org/

Not very obvious and *very* hard to find. But it has an FAQ.

http://cesnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sou...qsllib-doc.zip

That's on Sourceforge. You *did* look there, didn't you?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

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Hank Oredson September 30th 03 09:35 PM


"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

3rd hit. Already have that document.
No API specification in that document.


OK, Hank, you seem to need spoonfeeding:

http://www.trustedqsl.org/

Not very obvious and *very* hard to find. But it has an FAQ.

http://cesnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sou...qsllib-doc.zip

That's on Sourceforge. You *did* look there, didn't you?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin



Yes, I have this also. The same for everything on SourceForge.
This is *not* what I look for. It is the description of the library
you must use to do things on the local machine. Of course this
is needed, and I have it already. I'm looking for the next part.

Maybe the term "data interchange protocol" will be better.
I am looking for the API *to the LotW database*.
One could reverse engineer an API from the web page code.
It would be better if I had the specification instead.
eQSL provides such a specification for their database.

I am aware of the architecture, understand how the certificates
are used, have my own database and software for dealing with
logs, station identification, DX entities, have ADIF
reading and writing functions for that database, etc.

What I have not yet found is the API into the LotW database, so that I
can create my own client to view, modify, delete and insert QSO data.

For eQSL this is simple. Now I want to do it for LotW.

--

... Hank

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Hank Oredson September 30th 03 09:35 PM


"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

3rd hit. Already have that document.
No API specification in that document.


OK, Hank, you seem to need spoonfeeding:

http://www.trustedqsl.org/

Not very obvious and *very* hard to find. But it has an FAQ.

http://cesnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sou...qsllib-doc.zip

That's on Sourceforge. You *did* look there, didn't you?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin



Yes, I have this also. The same for everything on SourceForge.
This is *not* what I look for. It is the description of the library
you must use to do things on the local machine. Of course this
is needed, and I have it already. I'm looking for the next part.

Maybe the term "data interchange protocol" will be better.
I am looking for the API *to the LotW database*.
One could reverse engineer an API from the web page code.
It would be better if I had the specification instead.
eQSL provides such a specification for their database.

I am aware of the architecture, understand how the certificates
are used, have my own database and software for dealing with
logs, station identification, DX entities, have ADIF
reading and writing functions for that database, etc.

What I have not yet found is the API into the LotW database, so that I
can create my own client to view, modify, delete and insert QSO data.

For eQSL this is simple. Now I want to do it for LotW.

--

... Hank

Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net
W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net



Dave, AA6YQ October 1st 03 06:36 AM

There is no API in http://trustedqsl.sourceforge.net/lotwspec.pdf , nor in
any other available document.

I presume that the earlier "its in the code" was a joke, though not a very
funny one.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

The only sources I can find are just the little applications
for Trusted QSL. Cannot find anything with an API to
the database. Seems that API is via email, or the upload
page on the web site. Maybe I missed something ...


I doubt you searched with the relevant keywords.

"lotw" "arrl"

http://trustedqsl.sourceforge.net/lotwspec.pdf

as the first hit on google.

Really.

Peter Lemken
Berlin

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Dave, AA6YQ October 1st 03 06:36 AM

There is no API in http://trustedqsl.sourceforge.net/lotwspec.pdf , nor in
any other available document.

I presume that the earlier "its in the code" was a joke, though not a very
funny one.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

The only sources I can find are just the little applications
for Trusted QSL. Cannot find anything with an API to
the database. Seems that API is via email, or the upload
page on the web site. Maybe I missed something ...


I doubt you searched with the relevant keywords.

"lotw" "arrl"

http://trustedqsl.sourceforge.net/lotwspec.pdf

as the first hit on google.

Really.

Peter Lemken
Berlin

--
Mail an die im From: angegebene Adresse stellt eine Beauftragung zur
Überprüfung der Mailfunktion des Absenders dar und wird mit einer
Bearbeitungsgebühr von EUR 1000,- in Rechnung gestellt.




Dave, AA6YQ October 1st 03 06:39 AM

A pile of code is not an API, its a pile of code. An API is a designated,
documented interface designed to be stable (in an upwardly-compatible way)
over time so that client applications can interact reliably.

I'm beginning to think you weren't joking.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Hank Oredson wrote:

3rd hit. Already have that document.
No API specification in that document.


OK, Hank, you seem to need spoonfeeding:

http://www.trustedqsl.org/

Not very obvious and *very* hard to find. But it has an FAQ.

http://cesnet.dl.sourceforge.net/sou...qsllib-doc.zip

That's on Sourceforge. You *did* look there, didn't you?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Mail an die im From: angegebene Adresse stellt eine Beauftragung zur
Überprüfung der Mailfunktion des Absenders dar und wird mit einer
Bearbeitungsgebühr von EUR 1000,- in Rechnung gestellt.





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