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"Derek Wills" wrote in message ... I'm looking to buy some IRC's. I'm mainly interested in the new larger size ones. Does anyone have some to sell? Best bet is the Post Office. Though in some areas you'll have to get them to special order them. I disagree - why pay $1.75 at the PO when QSL managers will sell them for 80c to $1 each? The poster did the right thing by asking here. Also try QSL managers of recent expeditions or managers of busy stations. I sold my last lot for 80c each, but now that I'm not an active manager I'm hanging on to my last 100 or so for my own QSLing. And where do the QSL managers get them so cheap? From hams who send them? Why aren't the QSL managers using them as intended, that is to send a QSL direct to the ham that provided that IRC and the envelope. Are the QSL managers keeping the IRCs and sending the QSLs via the bureau? That would be quite unethical. One of the perks of being a QSL manager is that you get a steady supply of IRCs, but I wouldn't do it just for that! There shouldn't be any IRCs left over for the manager. The hams who send them are doing so to get direct QSL responses. So how do you have an excess?? Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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There's nothing unethical about this process! The manager gets loads of
IRCs and replies to the cards via airmail, as would be expected. But, rather than redeeming them at the Post Office for $0.80 (in the US), he/she sells them for face value or a slight markup (I've seen them go for $0.80-$1.10 recently) to other DXers as a service. That way, DXers get the IRCs at a significant discount compared to Post Office prices and the manager gets what he would have if he had redeemed them at the Post Office, or possibly a slight profit that can be rolled into printing more QSL cards or other operating expenses. I haven't purchased an IRC from the Post Office since the early 1970s, when they were considerably less expensive. I've never redeemed an IRC at the Post Office. I've been buying them from QSL managers for years. They simply continue making the rounds as a sort of currency. The new IRCs have an expiration date which will somewhat short circuit this wonderful process. I certainly appreciate the efforts of Derek and other QSL managers for selling IRCs back to the DX community. Regards, Rich Eckman KO4MR Hampton, VA -- "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message gy.com... "Derek Wills" wrote in message ... I'm looking to buy some IRC's. I'm mainly interested in the new larger size ones. Does anyone have some to sell? Best bet is the Post Office. Though in some areas you'll have to get them to special order them. I disagree - why pay $1.75 at the PO when QSL managers will sell them for 80c to $1 each? The poster did the right thing by asking here. Also try QSL managers of recent expeditions or managers of busy stations. I sold my last lot for 80c each, but now that I'm not an active manager I'm hanging on to my last 100 or so for my own QSLing. And where do the QSL managers get them so cheap? From hams who send them? Why aren't the QSL managers using them as intended, that is to send a QSL direct to the ham that provided that IRC and the envelope. Are the QSL managers keeping the IRCs and sending the QSLs via the bureau? That would be quite unethical. One of the perks of being a QSL manager is that you get a steady supply of IRCs, but I wouldn't do it just for that! There shouldn't be any IRCs left over for the manager. The hams who send them are doing so to get direct QSL responses. So how do you have an excess?? Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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"Richard Eckman" wrote in message news:ym4Kb.34762$F22.17774@lakeread02... There's nothing unethical about this process! The manager gets loads of IRCs and replies to the cards via airmail, as would be expected. But, rather than redeeming them at the Post Office for $0.80 (in the US), he/she sells them for face value or a slight markup (I've seen them go for $0.80-$1.10 recently) to other DXers as a service. That way, DXers get the IRCs at a significant discount compared to Post Office prices and the manager gets what he would have if he had redeemed them at the Post Office, or possibly a slight profit that can be rolled into printing more QSL cards or other operating expenses. Some one bought them at post office prices originally. And somewhere along the line the QSL manager has to buy postage. If he is buying postage for $0.80 and selling the IRCs for $1 that is probably illegal. I haven't purchased an IRC from the Post Office since the early 1970s, when they were considerably less expensive. I've never redeemed an IRC at the Post Office. I've been buying them from QSL managers for years. They simply continue making the rounds as a sort of currency. The new IRCs have an expiration date which will somewhat short circuit this wonderful process. I certainly appreciate the efforts of Derek and other QSL managers for selling IRCs back to the DX community. Since they were never intended to be "currency" this is probably illegal and no doubt one of several reasons that expiration dates are now put on them. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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I would seriously doubt that there is any law (in the US) that makes this
practice illegal. Amateur radio operators are hardly the only group that barters IRCs. Do a Google search on "International Reply Coupons Barter" and you'll see that this is a very common practice. I'm worried about a lot of things, but not about a visit from the Post Office Police! Rich Eckman KO4MR Hampton, VA -- "Dee D. Flint" wrote in message gy.com... "Richard Eckman" wrote in message news:ym4Kb.34762$F22.17774@lakeread02... There's nothing unethical about this process! The manager gets loads of IRCs and replies to the cards via airmail, as would be expected. But, rather than redeeming them at the Post Office for $0.80 (in the US), he/she sells them for face value or a slight markup (I've seen them go for $0.80-$1.10 recently) to other DXers as a service. That way, DXers get the IRCs at a significant discount compared to Post Office prices and the manager gets what he would have if he had redeemed them at the Post Office, or possibly a slight profit that can be rolled into printing more QSL cards or other operating expenses. Some one bought them at post office prices originally. And somewhere along the line the QSL manager has to buy postage. If he is buying postage for $0.80 and selling the IRCs for $1 that is probably illegal. I haven't purchased an IRC from the Post Office since the early 1970s, when they were considerably less expensive. I've never redeemed an IRC at the Post Office. I've been buying them from QSL managers for years. They simply continue making the rounds as a sort of currency. The new IRCs have an expiration date which will somewhat short circuit this wonderful process. I certainly appreciate the efforts of Derek and other QSL managers for selling IRCs back to the DX community. Since they were never intended to be "currency" this is probably illegal and no doubt one of several reasons that expiration dates are now put on them. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:22:33 -0500, "Richard Eckman"
wrote: I would seriously doubt that there is any law (in the US) that makes this practice illegal. Amateur radio operators are hardly the only group that barters IRCs. Do a Google search on "International Reply Coupons Barter" and you'll see that this is a very common practice. I'm worried about a lot of things, but not about a visit from the Post Office Police! Rich Eckman KO4MR Hampton, VA For that matter, is there even a law that says I can't buy $0.37 stamps at the PO and sell them for a buck? It certainly doesn't seem to be a problem for third party stamp machines that take a cut for the convenience of not having to go to the PO. |
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On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 22:22:33 -0500, "Richard Eckman"
wrote: I would seriously doubt that there is any law (in the US) that makes this practice illegal. Amateur radio operators are hardly the only group that barters IRCs. Do a Google search on "International Reply Coupons Barter" and you'll see that this is a very common practice. I'm worried about a lot of things, but not about a visit from the Post Office Police! Rich Eckman KO4MR Hampton, VA For that matter, is there even a law that says I can't buy $0.37 stamps at the PO and sell them for a buck? It certainly doesn't seem to be a problem for third party stamp machines that take a cut for the convenience of not having to go to the PO. |
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Dee D. Flint wrote:
If he is buying postage for $0.80 and selling the IRCs for $1 that is probably illegal. .... Since they were never intended to be "currency" this is probably illegal What!!! That's an outrage! We better shock and awe before they develop nuclear weapons. WA7AA -- Anti-spam measu look me up on qrz.com if you need to reply directly |
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:09:39 GMT, "Dee D. Flint"
wrote: Some one bought them at post office prices originally. And somewhere along the line the QSL manager has to buy postage. If he is buying postage for $0.80 and selling the IRCs for $1 that is probably illegal. Dee Dee. Scurry on back over to QRZ.Com and argue with the repeater geeks, where your inexperience with ham radio doesn't stick out so much, like it does here. You been smokin' RG59 again? 73, Jim KH2D |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 03:09:39 GMT, "Dee D. Flint" wrote: Some one bought them at post office prices originally. And somewhere along the line the QSL manager has to buy postage. If he is buying postage for $0.80 and selling the IRCs for $1 that is probably illegal. Dee Dee. Scurry on back over to QRZ.Com and argue with the repeater geeks, where your inexperience with ham radio doesn't stick out so much, like it does here. You been smokin' RG59 again? 73, Jim KH2D While I may not be knowledgeable on the subject of IRCs, if you will check the FCC database, you will find that I have been an Extra class operator since 1993. I have a good bit of experience with ham radio overall just not with IRCs. So check your facts before slinging mud. Dee D. Flint, N8UZE |
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On Tue, 06 Jan 2004 03:00:26 GMT, "Dee D. Flint"
wrote: While I may not be knowledgeable on the subject of IRCs...... Obviously. Now run on back over to QRZ.com and argue with the Morse Code Monkeys. 73, Jim KH2D |
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