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Brenda Ann wrote:
Don't feel too bad, Paul. You'll often notice in the same listings that
(even if they ship solely by USPS) they will not ship to US military APO/FPO
addresses, either. We get left out in the cold even more often than any of
the above named locations. So much for supporting the troops as it were.--


That's because shipping to an an APO/FPO is no longer a service provided
by the U.S. government. At one time mail to an APO/FPO was delivered to
a U.S. millitary post office that then shipped it using U.S. milltary
transport, There was a good chance that the mail would actually arrive
and it would be undamaged. Now APO/FPO mail is sent via the regular
postal system, but the U.S. government picks up the tab.

Now, the chance of the mail arriving is much less as it stands out.

As for Paul's comments, they really don't hold any water. Small sellers
don't ship outside the continental U.S. because they don't want the risk.

If an item is lost, stolen, damaged, or takes a month or two to get delivered,
they can't afford to replace it, or "eat" the loss. Paul even has more problems
because Canadian customs may hold an item to determine its value, or if it
can be legally imported as long as they wish. They can also assess the
value for sales and other taxes.

Obviously he never has had any experience clearing an item through customs.
If he had he would have praised the low fees, speedy processing and general
reliablity of the courier services.

Considering the general quality of things sold on eBay, the sellers are
actually doing you a favor. While many of the sellers will attempt to
keep you satisfied, if you have to wait a month for something to arrive
and in Paul's case pay GST (general sales tax), import duty and customs
clearing fees, then have to send it back, he would loose a lot.

Besides paying for shipping both ways, he would have to pay customs clearing
fees at the U.S. border and prove that the item he is sending back was
actually being returned to the U.S. as a defective purchase and not scamming
the customs people by claiming it was.

This means that some items both of you either have to keep or pay for
and never get no matter what it costs. Where do you draw the line?
$100, $200, $500? If it costs $100 to ship a radio to you and $100 to
send it back, it does not make much sense.


Geoff.

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(Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in
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Brenda Ann wrote:
Don't feel too bad, Paul. You'll often notice in the same listings
that (even if they ship solely by USPS) they will not ship to US
military APO/FPO addresses, either. We get left out in the cold even
more often than any of the above named locations. So much for
supporting the troops as it were.--


That's because shipping to an an APO/FPO is no longer a service
provided by the U.S. government. At one time mail to an APO/FPO was
delivered to a U.S. millitary post office that then shipped it using
U.S. milltary transport, There was a good chance that the mail would
actually arrive and it would be undamaged. Now APO/FPO mail is sent
via the regular postal system, but the U.S. government picks up the
tab.

Now, the chance of the mail arriving is much less as it stands out.

As for Paul's comments, they really don't hold any water. Small
sellers don't ship outside the continental U.S. because they don't
want the risk.

If an item is lost, stolen, damaged, or takes a month or two to get
delivered, they can't afford to replace it, or "eat" the loss. Paul
even has more problems because Canadian customs may hold an item to
determine its value, or if it can be legally imported as long as they
wish. They can also assess the value for sales and other taxes.


The only possible problem is loss or damage. USPS air delivers in a few
days and for a reasonable border fee, most of which is sales tax at this
end. If the customs declaration is made out properly, stating that the
contents are amateur radio equipment and if the eBay auction price is
stated as the value, there is rarely any problem unless the merchandise
is misrepresented in the first place. There is no duty on amateur
equipment entering Canada from ANYWHERE, just sales taxes.


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The only possible problem is loss or damage. USPS air delivers in a few
days and for a reasonable border fee, most of which is sales tax at this



The issue is cost, I believe.

For some reason sellers dont want to pay the cost to the last two
states, EVEN IF THE BUYER IS FRONTING THE FEES DOnt know why.

I have shipped to Hawaii several times with no issues at all other than
time.

I have had no problems with Canada, other than time. Sometimes it
takes an inordinate amount of time . But you can accept that if BOTH
parties are good communicators.

Keep in touch with your seller or buyer, dont just fail to respond. It
makes them nervous, folks.

Mark
K8VF
Michigan

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Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:

Brenda Ann wrote:


Don't feel too bad, Paul. You'll often notice in the same listings that
(even if they ship solely by USPS) they will not ship to US military APO/FPO
addresses, either. We get left out in the cold even more often than any of
the above named locations. So much for supporting the troops as it were.--



That's because shipping to an an APO/FPO is no longer a service provided
by the U.S. government. At one time mail to an APO/FPO was delivered to
a U.S. millitary post office that then shipped it using U.S. milltary
transport, There was a good chance that the mail would actually arrive
and it would be undamaged. Now APO/FPO mail is sent via the regular
postal system, but the U.S. government picks up the tab.

Now, the chance of the mail arriving is much less as it stands out.

As for Paul's comments, they really don't hold any water. Small sellers
don't ship outside the continental U.S. because they don't want the risk.

If an item is lost, stolen, damaged, or takes a month or two to get delivered,
they can't afford to replace it, or "eat" the loss. Paul even has more problems
because Canadian customs may hold an item to determine its value, or if it
can be legally imported as long as they wish. They can also assess the
value for sales and other taxes.

Obviously he never has had any experience clearing an item through customs.
If he had he would have praised the low fees, speedy processing and general
reliablity of the courier services.

Considering the general quality of things sold on eBay, the sellers are
actually doing you a favor. While many of the sellers will attempt to
keep you satisfied, if you have to wait a month for something to arrive
and in Paul's case pay GST (general sales tax), import duty and customs
clearing fees, then have to send it back, he would loose a lot.

Besides paying for shipping both ways, he would have to pay customs clearing
fees at the U.S. border and prove that the item he is sending back was
actually being returned to the U.S. as a defective purchase and not scamming
the customs people by claiming it was.

This means that some items both of you either have to keep or pay for
and never get no matter what it costs. Where do you draw the line?
$100, $200, $500? If it costs $100 to ship a radio to you and $100 to
send it back, it does not make much sense.


Geoff.



I recently recieved three packages, one from the US via FEDEX GROUND,
another from the US via USPS, and another from Canada via Canada Post.
They all arrived in less than a week, and I paid no customs. There are
no customs duties for ham radio equipment.

Paul

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