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"W6DKN" wrote:
wrote: Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." -- Henry VI, Part 2, William Shakespeare However, you probably want to look up the context. It is something to the effect of, if you want to take over the government, you have to kill all the lawyers, because they *are* the government. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder?
Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products No, never harmed by lead solder, but I've been harmed by lawyers. Wanna try a class action suit against yourself? :-A "...if one tolerates bad manners, they grow worse. I must find the oaf who did this thing, explain to him his offense, give him a chance to apologise, then kill him." (R.A. Heinlein, "The Cat Who Walks Through Walls") |
Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder?
Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products No, never harmed by lead solder, but I've been harmed by lawyers. Wanna try a class action suit against yourself? :-A "...if one tolerates bad manners, they grow worse. I must find the oaf who did this thing, explain to him his offense, give him a chance to apologise, then kill him." (R.A. Heinlein, "The Cat Who Walks Through Walls") |
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Michael Black wrote: I suspect it's a joke. It's specifies a couple of kit manufacturers, one of which has pretty much disappeared and the other one of the big names nowadays, and talks of modifying commercial equipment, but says nothing about those who actually build stuff with solder. I hope you're right. I fear, though, that it might be the sort of bottom-feeding "look for any excuse, file a class-action suit against a bunch of deep-pocket companies, and aim for an out-of-court settlement" sort of thing. The deep-pocket companies (Kenwood, Icom, and Yaesu look like the targets) buy off the suit for a few million dollars (because the costs of defending the suit, even successfully, would run to rather more than that). The people suckered into agreeing to act as members of the class end up filing claims and getting $0.50 each, and the lawyers take at least a third of the total as fees. Spoofs tend to have that sort of narrowminded silliness about them. And it's obvious to me that if anyone was liable, it would be the solder manufacturers (or even the government for lax standards) and not specific kit manufacturers. Alas, here in the United States, anybody can sue anyone over anything, and force the defendants to shell out big bucks in legal fees. Even if the defendants win, they may not be able to recover their legal costs from the plaintiff. It's distressingly common for lawyers to file "shotgun" liability suits, including as defendants any party who had _any_ involvement in the matter. In many states, if the plaintiff wins a judgement, and most of the defendants have no money (e.g. the companies which are bankrupt or nearly so), then any defendant _with_ money can be held liable for the full judgement even if the court had found them only 1% responsible for whatever damages occurred. This is one reason why many companies "buy off" such lawsuits with an out-of-court settlement which doesn't admit any liability. The possible financial risk of losing the suit is often far too great. A few puffs of solder when someone is taking a diode out of their rig is not going to do anyone damage. Kit building does allow for more contact with solder. But it's the build from scratch people who have the most contact. I have little bits of solder all over the place, to keep it handy just in case I need it or because I've had it in a pocket or whatever. You _do_ wash your hands before eating, if you've been handling it? -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
In article ,
Michael Black wrote: I suspect it's a joke. It's specifies a couple of kit manufacturers, one of which has pretty much disappeared and the other one of the big names nowadays, and talks of modifying commercial equipment, but says nothing about those who actually build stuff with solder. I hope you're right. I fear, though, that it might be the sort of bottom-feeding "look for any excuse, file a class-action suit against a bunch of deep-pocket companies, and aim for an out-of-court settlement" sort of thing. The deep-pocket companies (Kenwood, Icom, and Yaesu look like the targets) buy off the suit for a few million dollars (because the costs of defending the suit, even successfully, would run to rather more than that). The people suckered into agreeing to act as members of the class end up filing claims and getting $0.50 each, and the lawyers take at least a third of the total as fees. Spoofs tend to have that sort of narrowminded silliness about them. And it's obvious to me that if anyone was liable, it would be the solder manufacturers (or even the government for lax standards) and not specific kit manufacturers. Alas, here in the United States, anybody can sue anyone over anything, and force the defendants to shell out big bucks in legal fees. Even if the defendants win, they may not be able to recover their legal costs from the plaintiff. It's distressingly common for lawyers to file "shotgun" liability suits, including as defendants any party who had _any_ involvement in the matter. In many states, if the plaintiff wins a judgement, and most of the defendants have no money (e.g. the companies which are bankrupt or nearly so), then any defendant _with_ money can be held liable for the full judgement even if the court had found them only 1% responsible for whatever damages occurred. This is one reason why many companies "buy off" such lawsuits with an out-of-court settlement which doesn't admit any liability. The possible financial risk of losing the suit is often far too great. A few puffs of solder when someone is taking a diode out of their rig is not going to do anyone damage. Kit building does allow for more contact with solder. But it's the build from scratch people who have the most contact. I have little bits of solder all over the place, to keep it handy just in case I need it or because I've had it in a pocket or whatever. You _do_ wash your hands before eating, if you've been handling it? -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
The so called no-lead solder (in my opinion) is worthless. I can't get it
solder to clean pc boards, component lead to lead or even leads to chassis. Guess I need to put away the Weller SP-60 (let alone the 30 watt for pc boards) and use "Big Bertha" (100 Watt American Beauty), too large a tip for pc boards. Just my observations. Chuck wrote in message ... Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. |
The so called no-lead solder (in my opinion) is worthless. I can't get it
solder to clean pc boards, component lead to lead or even leads to chassis. Guess I need to put away the Weller SP-60 (let alone the 30 watt for pc boards) and use "Big Bertha" (100 Watt American Beauty), too large a tip for pc boards. Just my observations. Chuck wrote in message ... Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. |
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:43:54 -0700, Dr. John
wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:12:11 GMT, belch-spoke these words: Well no, but I have been harmed by snakes, I mean lawyers. Can we get a class action suit against lawyers? Lawyers have done more harm than solder. So let's start with a class action against lawyers. So many things wrong with that statement.... cant compute....errr. beep. John I think his statement is perfectly clear. All Lawyers are SELF SERVING.. If we did not have these PARASITES chaseing every AMBULANCE the Doctors may continue to practice.. Just My Opinion.. Bob |
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:43:54 -0700, Dr. John
wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:12:11 GMT, belch-spoke these words: Well no, but I have been harmed by snakes, I mean lawyers. Can we get a class action suit against lawyers? Lawyers have done more harm than solder. So let's start with a class action against lawyers. So many things wrong with that statement.... cant compute....errr. beep. John I think his statement is perfectly clear. All Lawyers are SELF SERVING.. If we did not have these PARASITES chaseing every AMBULANCE the Doctors may continue to practice.. Just My Opinion.. Bob |
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