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Have You Been Harmed By Lead Solder?
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Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." -- Henry VI, Part 2, William Shakespeare 73 de W6DKN |
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:31:26 -0700, hath writ:
Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. Oh -- just bugger off! OK? Jonesy -- | Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | OS/2 | Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | linux __ | 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK |
On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:31:26 -0700, hath writ:
Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. Oh -- just bugger off! OK? Jonesy -- | Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | OS/2 | Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | linux __ | 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK |
wrote in message ... Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. I have done this for over 50 years now. How much will you pay me to join the class? -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net |
wrote in message ... Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. I have done this for over 50 years now. How much will you pay me to join the class? -- ... Hank Hank: http://horedson.home.att.net W0RLI: http://w0rli.home.att.net |
Dave Platt ) writes:
Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. Naturally, I speak only for myself in saying that it would not cause me undue grief (or any harm) if I were to learn that legions of noxious parasites had infested your codpiece. I've been building and modifying electronics (kits and otherwise) for 35 years. It will be a cold day in hell indeed before I take part in any such lawsuit as you are proposing, class-action or otherwise. I suspect it's a joke. It's specifies a couple of kit manufacturers, one of which has pretty much disappeared and the other one of the big names nowadays, and talks of modifying commercial equipment, but says nothing about those who actually build stuff with solder. Spoofs tend to have that sort of narrowminded silliness about them. And it's obvious to me that if anyone was liable, it would be the solder manufacturers (or even the government for lax standards) and not specific kit manufacturers. A few puffs of solder when someone is taking a diode out of their rig is not going to do anyone damage. Kit building does allow for more contact with solder. But it's the build from scratch people who have the most contact. I have little bits of solder all over the place, to keep it handy just in case I need it or because I've had it in a pocket or whatever. Michael VE2BVW |
Dave Platt ) writes:
Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. Naturally, I speak only for myself in saying that it would not cause me undue grief (or any harm) if I were to learn that legions of noxious parasites had infested your codpiece. I've been building and modifying electronics (kits and otherwise) for 35 years. It will be a cold day in hell indeed before I take part in any such lawsuit as you are proposing, class-action or otherwise. I suspect it's a joke. It's specifies a couple of kit manufacturers, one of which has pretty much disappeared and the other one of the big names nowadays, and talks of modifying commercial equipment, but says nothing about those who actually build stuff with solder. Spoofs tend to have that sort of narrowminded silliness about them. And it's obvious to me that if anyone was liable, it would be the solder manufacturers (or even the government for lax standards) and not specific kit manufacturers. A few puffs of solder when someone is taking a diode out of their rig is not going to do anyone damage. Kit building does allow for more contact with solder. But it's the build from scratch people who have the most contact. I have little bits of solder all over the place, to keep it handy just in case I need it or because I've had it in a pocket or whatever. Michael VE2BVW |
wrote in message ... Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? Sure. And I avoid breathing in the resulting smoke and I wash my hands afterwards, all of which should help me to avoid resulting lead poisoning problems. Oh, and I make it a point to avoid eating paint chips as well. Guess I'm covered! Jack. |
wrote in message ... Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? Sure. And I avoid breathing in the resulting smoke and I wash my hands afterwards, all of which should help me to avoid resulting lead poisoning problems. Oh, and I make it a point to avoid eating paint chips as well. Guess I'm covered! Jack. |
"W6DKN" wrote:
wrote: Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." -- Henry VI, Part 2, William Shakespeare However, you probably want to look up the context. It is something to the effect of, if you want to take over the government, you have to kill all the lawyers, because they *are* the government. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
"W6DKN" wrote:
wrote: Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." -- Henry VI, Part 2, William Shakespeare However, you probably want to look up the context. It is something to the effect of, if you want to take over the government, you have to kill all the lawyers, because they *are* the government. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder?
Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products No, never harmed by lead solder, but I've been harmed by lawyers. Wanna try a class action suit against yourself? :-A "...if one tolerates bad manners, they grow worse. I must find the oaf who did this thing, explain to him his offense, give him a chance to apologise, then kill him." (R.A. Heinlein, "The Cat Who Walks Through Walls") |
Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder?
Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products No, never harmed by lead solder, but I've been harmed by lawyers. Wanna try a class action suit against yourself? :-A "...if one tolerates bad manners, they grow worse. I must find the oaf who did this thing, explain to him his offense, give him a chance to apologise, then kill him." (R.A. Heinlein, "The Cat Who Walks Through Walls") |
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Michael Black wrote: I suspect it's a joke. It's specifies a couple of kit manufacturers, one of which has pretty much disappeared and the other one of the big names nowadays, and talks of modifying commercial equipment, but says nothing about those who actually build stuff with solder. I hope you're right. I fear, though, that it might be the sort of bottom-feeding "look for any excuse, file a class-action suit against a bunch of deep-pocket companies, and aim for an out-of-court settlement" sort of thing. The deep-pocket companies (Kenwood, Icom, and Yaesu look like the targets) buy off the suit for a few million dollars (because the costs of defending the suit, even successfully, would run to rather more than that). The people suckered into agreeing to act as members of the class end up filing claims and getting $0.50 each, and the lawyers take at least a third of the total as fees. Spoofs tend to have that sort of narrowminded silliness about them. And it's obvious to me that if anyone was liable, it would be the solder manufacturers (or even the government for lax standards) and not specific kit manufacturers. Alas, here in the United States, anybody can sue anyone over anything, and force the defendants to shell out big bucks in legal fees. Even if the defendants win, they may not be able to recover their legal costs from the plaintiff. It's distressingly common for lawyers to file "shotgun" liability suits, including as defendants any party who had _any_ involvement in the matter. In many states, if the plaintiff wins a judgement, and most of the defendants have no money (e.g. the companies which are bankrupt or nearly so), then any defendant _with_ money can be held liable for the full judgement even if the court had found them only 1% responsible for whatever damages occurred. This is one reason why many companies "buy off" such lawsuits with an out-of-court settlement which doesn't admit any liability. The possible financial risk of losing the suit is often far too great. A few puffs of solder when someone is taking a diode out of their rig is not going to do anyone damage. Kit building does allow for more contact with solder. But it's the build from scratch people who have the most contact. I have little bits of solder all over the place, to keep it handy just in case I need it or because I've had it in a pocket or whatever. You _do_ wash your hands before eating, if you've been handling it? -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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Michael Black wrote: I suspect it's a joke. It's specifies a couple of kit manufacturers, one of which has pretty much disappeared and the other one of the big names nowadays, and talks of modifying commercial equipment, but says nothing about those who actually build stuff with solder. I hope you're right. I fear, though, that it might be the sort of bottom-feeding "look for any excuse, file a class-action suit against a bunch of deep-pocket companies, and aim for an out-of-court settlement" sort of thing. The deep-pocket companies (Kenwood, Icom, and Yaesu look like the targets) buy off the suit for a few million dollars (because the costs of defending the suit, even successfully, would run to rather more than that). The people suckered into agreeing to act as members of the class end up filing claims and getting $0.50 each, and the lawyers take at least a third of the total as fees. Spoofs tend to have that sort of narrowminded silliness about them. And it's obvious to me that if anyone was liable, it would be the solder manufacturers (or even the government for lax standards) and not specific kit manufacturers. Alas, here in the United States, anybody can sue anyone over anything, and force the defendants to shell out big bucks in legal fees. Even if the defendants win, they may not be able to recover their legal costs from the plaintiff. It's distressingly common for lawyers to file "shotgun" liability suits, including as defendants any party who had _any_ involvement in the matter. In many states, if the plaintiff wins a judgement, and most of the defendants have no money (e.g. the companies which are bankrupt or nearly so), then any defendant _with_ money can be held liable for the full judgement even if the court had found them only 1% responsible for whatever damages occurred. This is one reason why many companies "buy off" such lawsuits with an out-of-court settlement which doesn't admit any liability. The possible financial risk of losing the suit is often far too great. A few puffs of solder when someone is taking a diode out of their rig is not going to do anyone damage. Kit building does allow for more contact with solder. But it's the build from scratch people who have the most contact. I have little bits of solder all over the place, to keep it handy just in case I need it or because I've had it in a pocket or whatever. You _do_ wash your hands before eating, if you've been handling it? -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
The so called no-lead solder (in my opinion) is worthless. I can't get it
solder to clean pc boards, component lead to lead or even leads to chassis. Guess I need to put away the Weller SP-60 (let alone the 30 watt for pc boards) and use "Big Bertha" (100 Watt American Beauty), too large a tip for pc boards. Just my observations. Chuck wrote in message ... Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. |
The so called no-lead solder (in my opinion) is worthless. I can't get it
solder to clean pc boards, component lead to lead or even leads to chassis. Guess I need to put away the Weller SP-60 (let alone the 30 watt for pc boards) and use "Big Bertha" (100 Watt American Beauty), too large a tip for pc boards. Just my observations. Chuck wrote in message ... Have you soldered parts or built radios using lead solder? If you have built Heathkit, Elecraft or modified other radios like Yaesu, Icom or Kenwood using solder containing lead you could join a possible class action lawsuit against these corporations and their harmful products that has put your life and family members life in jeopardy. If you have radios or receipts or other proof then you could join in this possible class action lawsuit. Please contact us if you feel you are victim of these manufacturers and their products. |
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:43:54 -0700, Dr. John
wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:12:11 GMT, belch-spoke these words: Well no, but I have been harmed by snakes, I mean lawyers. Can we get a class action suit against lawyers? Lawyers have done more harm than solder. So let's start with a class action against lawyers. So many things wrong with that statement.... cant compute....errr. beep. John I think his statement is perfectly clear. All Lawyers are SELF SERVING.. If we did not have these PARASITES chaseing every AMBULANCE the Doctors may continue to practice.. Just My Opinion.. Bob |
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:43:54 -0700, Dr. John
wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:12:11 GMT, belch-spoke these words: Well no, but I have been harmed by snakes, I mean lawyers. Can we get a class action suit against lawyers? Lawyers have done more harm than solder. So let's start with a class action against lawyers. So many things wrong with that statement.... cant compute....errr. beep. John I think his statement is perfectly clear. All Lawyers are SELF SERVING.. If we did not have these PARASITES chaseing every AMBULANCE the Doctors may continue to practice.. Just My Opinion.. Bob |
Robert Hawk wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:43:54 -0700, Dr. John wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:12:11 GMT, belch-spoke these words: Well no, but I have been harmed by snakes, I mean lawyers. Can we get a class action suit against lawyers? Lawyers have done more harm than solder. So let's start with a class action against lawyers. So many things wrong with that statement.... cant compute....errr. beep. John I think his statement is perfectly clear. All Lawyers are SELF SERVING.. If we did not have these PARASITES chaseing every AMBULANCE the Doctors may continue to practice.. Including the incompentent ones that take out the wrong organs, kill people with overdoses, etc. etc. Lawyers sure are horrible... until you need one. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
Robert Hawk wrote:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:43:54 -0700, Dr. John wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:12:11 GMT, belch-spoke these words: Well no, but I have been harmed by snakes, I mean lawyers. Can we get a class action suit against lawyers? Lawyers have done more harm than solder. So let's start with a class action against lawyers. So many things wrong with that statement.... cant compute....errr. beep. John I think his statement is perfectly clear. All Lawyers are SELF SERVING.. If we did not have these PARASITES chaseing every AMBULANCE the Doctors may continue to practice.. Including the incompentent ones that take out the wrong organs, kill people with overdoses, etc. etc. Lawyers sure are horrible... until you need one. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
On 14 Jul 2003 02:52:08 -0800, Floyd Davidson wrote:
Lawyers sure are horrible... until you need one. The only time you "need one" is when you are forced to deal with another one (or leavings from same). sdb -- | Sylvan Butler | Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard | sbutler-boi.hp.com | | Watch out for my e-mail address. Thank UCE. change ^ to @ | It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences. -- C. S. Lewis |
On 14 Jul 2003 02:52:08 -0800, Floyd Davidson wrote:
Lawyers sure are horrible... until you need one. The only time you "need one" is when you are forced to deal with another one (or leavings from same). sdb -- | Sylvan Butler | Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard | sbutler-boi.hp.com | | Watch out for my e-mail address. Thank UCE. change ^ to @ | It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their consciences. -- C. S. Lewis |
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Sylvan Butler d wrote: Lawyers sure are horrible... until you need one. The only time you "need one" is when you are forced to deal with another one (or leavings from same). What's the old story? Oh, yeah. Lawyer moves from the East Coast back to a small frontier town, back sometime in the 1800's. Six months later, he's nearly destitute... nobody in town needs a lawyer. So, he writes to an old school friend of his, and encourages his friend to move to the same town and open a competing legal practice. Ten years later, they are both sufficiently wealthy to retire in comfort. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
In article pZ.com.invalid,
Sylvan Butler d wrote: Lawyers sure are horrible... until you need one. The only time you "need one" is when you are forced to deal with another one (or leavings from same). What's the old story? Oh, yeah. Lawyer moves from the East Coast back to a small frontier town, back sometime in the 1800's. Six months later, he's nearly destitute... nobody in town needs a lawyer. So, he writes to an old school friend of his, and encourages his friend to move to the same town and open a competing legal practice. Ten years later, they are both sufficiently wealthy to retire in comfort. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
Sylvan Butler d wrote:
On 14 Jul 2003 02:52:08 -0800, Floyd Davidson wrote: Lawyers sure are horrible... until you need one. The only time you "need one" is when you are forced to deal with another one (or leavings from same). sdb I hire lawyers to do work that I personally don't care much for and am not good at. (They pay me to do things they aren't so good at either, so this it's a good deal both ways.) Dealing with legalities is not something which happens because someone is "forced" to deal with another lawyer. Instead, it happens every time you do something that is affected by a law, and laws are written by politicians (who unfortunately are often not lawyers and don't have a clue what they're doing when the pass laws). In fact, dealing with a lawyer in the first place is the best way to avoid having to deal with more lawyers later! -- Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
Sylvan Butler d wrote:
On 14 Jul 2003 02:52:08 -0800, Floyd Davidson wrote: Lawyers sure are horrible... until you need one. The only time you "need one" is when you are forced to deal with another one (or leavings from same). sdb I hire lawyers to do work that I personally don't care much for and am not good at. (They pay me to do things they aren't so good at either, so this it's a good deal both ways.) Dealing with legalities is not something which happens because someone is "forced" to deal with another lawyer. Instead, it happens every time you do something that is affected by a law, and laws are written by politicians (who unfortunately are often not lawyers and don't have a clue what they're doing when the pass laws). In fact, dealing with a lawyer in the first place is the best way to avoid having to deal with more lawyers later! -- Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:47:47 GMT, Robert Hawk belch-spoke these words:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:43:54 -0700, Dr. John wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:12:11 GMT, belch-spoke these words: Well no, but I have been harmed by snakes, I mean lawyers. Can we get a class action suit against lawyers? Lawyers have done more harm than solder. So let's start with a class action against lawyers. So many things wrong with that statement.... cant compute....errr. beep. John I think his statement is perfectly clear. All Lawyers are SELF SERVING.. If we did not have these PARASITES chaseing every AMBULANCE the Doctors may continue to practice.. I didn't say it was unclear, I said it was wrong. Suing lawyers if you are one is hypocrisy and if you are not, is suicide. And I know PLENTY of lawyers that don't chase ambulances or doctors. What goddamn world are you living in? John |
On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:47:47 GMT, Robert Hawk belch-spoke these words:
On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:43:54 -0700, Dr. John wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:12:11 GMT, belch-spoke these words: Well no, but I have been harmed by snakes, I mean lawyers. Can we get a class action suit against lawyers? Lawyers have done more harm than solder. So let's start with a class action against lawyers. So many things wrong with that statement.... cant compute....errr. beep. John I think his statement is perfectly clear. All Lawyers are SELF SERVING.. If we did not have these PARASITES chaseing every AMBULANCE the Doctors may continue to practice.. I didn't say it was unclear, I said it was wrong. Suing lawyers if you are one is hypocrisy and if you are not, is suicide. And I know PLENTY of lawyers that don't chase ambulances or doctors. What goddamn world are you living in? John |
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:01:28 -0700, Dr. John
wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:47:47 GMT, Robert Hawk belch-spoke these words: On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:43:54 -0700, Dr. John wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:12:11 GMT, belch-spoke these words: Well no, but I have been harmed by snakes, I mean lawyers. Can we get a class action suit against lawyers? Lawyers have done more harm than solder. So let's start with a class action against lawyers. So many things wrong with that statement.... cant compute....errr. beep. John I think his statement is perfectly clear. All Lawyers are SELF SERVING.. If we did not have these PARASITES chaseing every AMBULANCE the Doctors may continue to practice.. I didn't say it was unclear, I said it was wrong. Suing lawyers if you are one is hypocrisy and if you are not, is suicide. All Lawyers ARE hypocrites AND they would be dooing us a favor by taking the gas pipe.. Or as you put it "Suicide" And I know PLENTY of lawyers that don't chase ambulances or doctors. What goddamn world are you living in? NOT Your world Where everybody has their head "up their ass" Oh the High Classed MouthPiece who makes the rounds with the sleazy Gumshoes, Kicking in motel room doors, thumping his Bible. A class act for sure.. BFG John Hey john, Are you one of them scumbag lawyers?? Just My Opinions.. Bob |
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 16:01:28 -0700, Dr. John
wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 10:47:47 GMT, Robert Hawk belch-spoke these words: On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 23:43:54 -0700, Dr. John wrote: On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 15:12:11 GMT, belch-spoke these words: Well no, but I have been harmed by snakes, I mean lawyers. Can we get a class action suit against lawyers? Lawyers have done more harm than solder. So let's start with a class action against lawyers. So many things wrong with that statement.... cant compute....errr. beep. John I think his statement is perfectly clear. All Lawyers are SELF SERVING.. If we did not have these PARASITES chaseing every AMBULANCE the Doctors may continue to practice.. I didn't say it was unclear, I said it was wrong. Suing lawyers if you are one is hypocrisy and if you are not, is suicide. All Lawyers ARE hypocrites AND they would be dooing us a favor by taking the gas pipe.. Or as you put it "Suicide" And I know PLENTY of lawyers that don't chase ambulances or doctors. What goddamn world are you living in? NOT Your world Where everybody has their head "up their ass" Oh the High Classed MouthPiece who makes the rounds with the sleazy Gumshoes, Kicking in motel room doors, thumping his Bible. A class act for sure.. BFG John Hey john, Are you one of them scumbag lawyers?? Just My Opinions.. Bob |
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On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:07:42 -0000, Dave Platt wrote:
What's the old story? Oh, yeah. Lawyer moves from the East Coast back to a small frontier town, back sometime in the 1800's. Six months later, he's nearly destitute... nobody in town needs a lawyer. So, he writes to an old school friend of his, and encourages his friend to move to the same town and open a competing legal practice. Ten years later, they are both sufficiently wealthy to retire in comfort. That old saw, coupled with the "if you build it, they will come" didn't work when I retired from an over-full desk of cases in the Federal service to an empty desk and lots of scrounging as a sole practitioner in the private sector. I loved doing the legal work. I hated running the business. And "they" didn't come - I had to go out and snag them. I hated that, too. So I retired "for real" and do just about as much (free) legal consulting as I feel like doing. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon Retired and loving every minute of it.... Work was getting in the way of my hobbies |
On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 20:07:42 -0000, Dave Platt wrote:
What's the old story? Oh, yeah. Lawyer moves from the East Coast back to a small frontier town, back sometime in the 1800's. Six months later, he's nearly destitute... nobody in town needs a lawyer. So, he writes to an old school friend of his, and encourages his friend to move to the same town and open a competing legal practice. Ten years later, they are both sufficiently wealthy to retire in comfort. That old saw, coupled with the "if you build it, they will come" didn't work when I retired from an over-full desk of cases in the Federal service to an empty desk and lots of scrounging as a sole practitioner in the private sector. I loved doing the legal work. I hated running the business. And "they" didn't come - I had to go out and snag them. I hated that, too. So I retired "for real" and do just about as much (free) legal consulting as I feel like doing. -- 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon Retired and loving every minute of it.... Work was getting in the way of my hobbies |
Sylvan Butler wrote:
In fact, dealing with a lawyer in the first place is the best way to avoid having to deal with more lawyers later! Because the lawyers have been too much involved in the law, and it gets created and twisted so that only lawyers are allowed to interpret it. If you try to skip that step, as you note, the lawyer cartel is likely to come after you. In fact lawyers *are* the only ones allowed to interpret it. That is exactly what passing a Bar exam buys them. If you skip that step, what you have is fools like yourself who think they know something about it, but don't. If I want a contract, or any other legal document, to actually say what is necessary (as an example of when a lawyer is useful), I'm certainly going to actually have a lawyer look at it rather than someone like you! -- Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
Sylvan Butler wrote:
In fact, dealing with a lawyer in the first place is the best way to avoid having to deal with more lawyers later! Because the lawyers have been too much involved in the law, and it gets created and twisted so that only lawyers are allowed to interpret it. If you try to skip that step, as you note, the lawyer cartel is likely to come after you. In fact lawyers *are* the only ones allowed to interpret it. That is exactly what passing a Bar exam buys them. If you skip that step, what you have is fools like yourself who think they know something about it, but don't. If I want a contract, or any other legal document, to actually say what is necessary (as an example of when a lawyer is useful), I'm certainly going to actually have a lawyer look at it rather than someone like you! -- Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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