Sylvan Butler wrote:
In fact, dealing with a lawyer in the first place
is the best way to avoid having to deal with more lawyers later!

Because the lawyers have been too much involved in the law, and it
gets created and twisted so that only lawyers are allowed to
interpret it. If you try to skip that step, as you note, the lawyer
cartel is likely to come after you.

In fact lawyers *are* the only ones allowed to interpret it.
That is exactly what passing a Bar exam buys them.

If you skip that step, what you have is fools like yourself who
think they know something about it, but don't.

If I want a contract, or any other legal document, to actually
say what is necessary (as an example of when a lawyer is
useful), I'm certainly going to actually have a lawyer look at
it rather than someone like you!

--
Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

On 17 Jul 2003 15:53:00 -0800, Floyd Davidson wrote:
Sylvan Butler wrote:
In fact, dealing with a lawyer in the first place
is the best way to avoid having to deal with more lawyers later!

Because the lawyers have been too much involved in the law, and it
gets created and twisted so that only lawyers are allowed to
interpret it. If you try to skip that step, as you note, the lawyer
cartel is likely to come after you.

In fact lawyers *are* the only ones allowed to interpret it.
That is exactly what passing a Bar exam buys them.

Not true. Passing the bar is ONLY required to interpret the law for
someone else. And why is that? Because lawyers made it so. It's
nice to make the rules that prevent competition, and then have
someone else with big guns enforce your rules.

If I want a contract, or any other legal document, to actually
say what is necessary (as an example of when a lawyer is
useful), I'm certainly going to actually have a lawyer look at

And why do you feel that is necessary? Because other lawyers are
out there to twist and tangle what should be clear meaning.

Lawyers have taken over and stolen the law from the people it was
intended from the beginning to serve.

sdb
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| Sylvan Butler | Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard | sbutler-boi.hp.com |
| Watch out for my e-mail address. Thank UCE. change ^ to @ |
It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral
busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his
cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our
own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval
of their consciences. -- C. S. Lewis

This is a long running thread. I'm going to filter now. Goodbye.

This is a long running thread. I'm going to filter now. Goodbye.

On 17 Jul 2003 15:53:00 -0800, Floyd Davidson wrote:
Sylvan Butler wrote:
In fact, dealing with a lawyer in the first place
is the best way to avoid having to deal with more lawyers later!

Because the lawyers have been too much involved in the law, and it
gets created and twisted so that only lawyers are allowed to
interpret it. If you try to skip that step, as you note, the lawyer
cartel is likely to come after you.

In fact lawyers *are* the only ones allowed to interpret it.
That is exactly what passing a Bar exam buys them.

Not true. Passing the bar is ONLY required to interpret the law for
someone else. And why is that? Because lawyers made it so. It's
nice to make the rules that prevent competition, and then have
someone else with big guns enforce your rules.

If I want a contract, or any other legal document, to actually
say what is necessary (as an example of when a lawyer is
useful), I'm certainly going to actually have a lawyer look at

And why do you feel that is necessary? Because other lawyers are
out there to twist and tangle what should be clear meaning.

Lawyers have taken over and stolen the law from the people it was
intended from the beginning to serve.

sdb
--
| Sylvan Butler | Not speaking for Hewlett-Packard | sbutler-boi.hp.com |
| Watch out for my e-mail address. Thank UCE. change ^ to @ |
It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral
busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his
cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our
own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval
of their consciences. -- C. S. Lewis