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Floyd Davidson July 19th 03 04:08 PM

pamme (VHFRadioBuff) wrote:
As far as I am concerned, this gentleman's posting could (should?) have been
posted in each and every user group that relates in any fashion to ham
radio.


Cross posting and off topic posting is a violation of many an ISP's TOS.


No, it was *NOT* crossposted, and it *should* have been.
Instead the message was multiposted to at least 5 newsgroups
individually.

*Multiposting* is *never* appropriate. Crossposting _to_
_appropriate_ newsgroups is _always_ appropriate.

The fact is that every post has it's place. If that were not the case, we'd
eliminate every amateur radio newsgroup except for rec.radio.amateur.


Some posts have many places, and that is why crossposting is a
facility available on Usenet. And while abuse is relatively
common, that particular instance would have been perhaps
reasonable *if* it had been crossposted instead of multiposted.

And while we discuss Usenet protocols, your signature is

1) too long
2) lacks the appropriate delimiter line, "-- ", between
it and the text of your message.

It seems reasonable that if you are going to rant about the
way someone else posts, you might want to be a little more
correct yourself. :-)

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB (ex: KF4KHC/HL9HCT)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com
Fight Spam! http://spamcop.net
National "Do Not Call" Registry: http://donotcall.gov


--
Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)

Allodoxaphobia July 19th 03 04:35 PM

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:48:34 -0400, James Nipper hath writ:

Hey, how about a posting that deals with smart cops and people who try to
moderate legitimate postings? Just what is your definition of spamming?

As far as I am concerned, this gentleman's posting could (should?) have
been posted in each and every user group that relates in any fashion to
ham radio.


It wasn't cross-posted, Mr. Top Poster. It was multi-posted.
Which required folks with slow dial-up lines -- that cannot
read usenet on a shell account with a real newsreader -- to
download the %$@#^%$ thing multiple times.

73
Jonesy W3DHJ

Allodoxaphobia July 19th 03 04:35 PM

On Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:48:34 -0400, James Nipper hath writ:

Hey, how about a posting that deals with smart cops and people who try to
moderate legitimate postings? Just what is your definition of spamming?

As far as I am concerned, this gentleman's posting could (should?) have
been posted in each and every user group that relates in any fashion to
ham radio.


It wasn't cross-posted, Mr. Top Poster. It was multi-posted.
Which required folks with slow dial-up lines -- that cannot
read usenet on a shell account with a real newsreader -- to
download the %$@#^%$ thing multiple times.

73
Jonesy W3DHJ

Spamhater July 20th 03 01:06 AM

Ya got to love those net gods! Unfortunately, they aren't as perfect as the
one who makes all this possible!
--
"Floyd Davidson" wrote in message
...
pamme (VHFRadioBuff) wrote:
As far as I am concerned, this gentleman's posting could (should?) have

been
posted in each and every user group that relates in any fashion to ham
radio.


Cross posting and off topic posting is a violation of many an ISP's TOS.


No, it was *NOT* crossposted, and it *should* have been.
Instead the message was multiposted to at least 5 newsgroups
individually.

*Multiposting* is *never* appropriate. Crossposting _to_
_appropriate_ newsgroups is _always_ appropriate.

The fact is that every post has it's place. If that were not the case,

we'd
eliminate every amateur radio newsgroup except for rec.radio.amateur.


Some posts have many places, and that is why crossposting is a
facility available on Usenet. And while abuse is relatively
common, that particular instance would have been perhaps
reasonable *if* it had been crossposted instead of multiposted.

And while we discuss Usenet protocols, your signature is

1) too long
2) lacks the appropriate delimiter line, "-- ", between
it and the text of your message.

It seems reasonable that if you are going to rant about the
way someone else posts, you might want to be a little more
correct yourself. :-)

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB (ex: KF4KHC/HL9HCT)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com
Fight Spam! http://spamcop.net
National "Do Not Call" Registry: http://donotcall.gov


--
Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)




Spamhater July 20th 03 01:06 AM

Ya got to love those net gods! Unfortunately, they aren't as perfect as the
one who makes all this possible!
--
"Floyd Davidson" wrote in message
...
pamme (VHFRadioBuff) wrote:
As far as I am concerned, this gentleman's posting could (should?) have

been
posted in each and every user group that relates in any fashion to ham
radio.


Cross posting and off topic posting is a violation of many an ISP's TOS.


No, it was *NOT* crossposted, and it *should* have been.
Instead the message was multiposted to at least 5 newsgroups
individually.

*Multiposting* is *never* appropriate. Crossposting _to_
_appropriate_ newsgroups is _always_ appropriate.

The fact is that every post has it's place. If that were not the case,

we'd
eliminate every amateur radio newsgroup except for rec.radio.amateur.


Some posts have many places, and that is why crossposting is a
facility available on Usenet. And while abuse is relatively
common, that particular instance would have been perhaps
reasonable *if* it had been crossposted instead of multiposted.

And while we discuss Usenet protocols, your signature is

1) too long
2) lacks the appropriate delimiter line, "-- ", between
it and the text of your message.

It seems reasonable that if you are going to rant about the
way someone else posts, you might want to be a little more
correct yourself. :-)

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB (ex: KF4KHC/HL9HCT)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com
Fight Spam! http://spamcop.net
National "Do Not Call" Registry: http://donotcall.gov


--
Floyd L. Davidson http://web.newsguy.com/floyd_davidson
Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska)




VHFRadioBuff July 20th 03 04:40 AM

Some posts have many places

Oh yeah. A post about a email reflector having to due with legal issues belongs
in a newsgroups for discussing amateur gear. Show me the logic in that!

And while we discuss Usenet protocols, your signature is

1) too long
2) lacks the appropriate delimiter line, "-- ", between
it and the text of your message.


By what standard? Yours?
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB (ex: KF4KHC/HL9HCT)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com
Fight Spam! http://spamcop.net
National "Do Not Call" Registry: http://donotcall.gov

VHFRadioBuff July 20th 03 04:40 AM

Some posts have many places

Oh yeah. A post about a email reflector having to due with legal issues belongs
in a newsgroups for discussing amateur gear. Show me the logic in that!

And while we discuss Usenet protocols, your signature is

1) too long
2) lacks the appropriate delimiter line, "-- ", between
it and the text of your message.


By what standard? Yours?
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB (ex: KF4KHC/HL9HCT)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com
Fight Spam! http://spamcop.net
National "Do Not Call" Registry: http://donotcall.gov

VHFRadioBuff July 20th 03 04:42 AM

Andy, you've got your Usenet panties in a bunch again. A list
pertaining to amateur radio legal issues would be helpful to the
hobby. A lot more useful than your trying to be a Usenet cop.

Bob
k5qwg


I'm sorry, do I know you?
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB (ex: KF4KHC/HL9HCT)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com
Fight Spam! http://spamcop.net
National "Do Not Call" Registry: http://donotcall.gov

VHFRadioBuff July 20th 03 04:42 AM

Andy, you've got your Usenet panties in a bunch again. A list
pertaining to amateur radio legal issues would be helpful to the
hobby. A lot more useful than your trying to be a Usenet cop.

Bob
k5qwg


I'm sorry, do I know you?
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB (ex: KF4KHC/HL9HCT)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com
Fight Spam! http://spamcop.net
National "Do Not Call" Registry: http://donotcall.gov

Bob Miller July 20th 03 06:27 AM

On 19 Jul 2003 04:18:50 GMT, pamme (VHFRadioBuff)
wrote:

I have created a new list that deals specifically with legal issues
pertaining
to our hobby


How about one dealing with SPAMMING? I think one post, on rec.radio.amateur
would have been sufficient.


Andy, you've got your Usenet panties in a bunch again. A list
pertaining to amateur radio legal issues would be helpful to the
hobby. A lot more useful than your trying to be a Usenet cop.

Bob
k5qwg


=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
73! de Andy KC2SSB (ex: KF4KHC/HL9HCT)
Beachwood, NJ USA! Grid FM29vw
http://vhfradiobuff.tripod.com
Fight Spam! http://spamcop.net
National "Do Not Call" Registry: http://donotcall.gov




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