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Old July 26th 03, 11:20 PM
N9NWO
 
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Default How about an amateur trunked network?

I am interested in converting the 440 repeater
band to trunking. It would allow more folks,
not that we are seeing that much use as it is,
on the bands plus allow us to have talk groups
that would be either linked or local. In many
cases, instead of a number of repeater sites in
a county, it would be only one with multiple
repeaters on a single tower. Unlike cell phones,
there is little need for low power thus multiple
tower sites. Having to maintain a single site
in each county would reduce cost (if we can get
hams to work together, sometimes hams are too
"libertarian" thus it is even hard to organize
them for pizza and beer).

European police trunking radio is in the 400 to
500 Mhz region which is far better than the 800
Mhz trunking that is being down here in the US.

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Old July 27th 03, 03:55 PM
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:20:18 -0500, N9NWO wrote:

I am interested in converting the 440 repeater
band to trunking. It would allow more folks,
not that we are seeing that much use as it is,
on the bands plus allow us to have talk groups
that would be either linked or local. In many
cases, instead of a number of repeater sites in
a county, it would be only one with multiple
repeaters on a single tower. Unlike cell phones,
there is little need for low power thus multiple
tower sites. Having to maintain a single site
in each county would reduce cost (if we can get
hams to work together, sometimes hams are too
"libertarian" thus it is even hard to organize
them for pizza and beer).

European police trunking radio is in the 400 to
500 Mhz region which is far better than the 800
Mhz trunking that is being down here in the US.


I'm familiar with amateur radio, repeaters, etcetera, but what is a
"trunked network"? Heard the expression, just don't have the vaguest
idea what it is.

Bob
k5qwg

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Old July 27th 03, 03:55 PM
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:20:18 -0500, N9NWO wrote:

I am interested in converting the 440 repeater
band to trunking. It would allow more folks,
not that we are seeing that much use as it is,
on the bands plus allow us to have talk groups
that would be either linked or local. In many
cases, instead of a number of repeater sites in
a county, it would be only one with multiple
repeaters on a single tower. Unlike cell phones,
there is little need for low power thus multiple
tower sites. Having to maintain a single site
in each county would reduce cost (if we can get
hams to work together, sometimes hams are too
"libertarian" thus it is even hard to organize
them for pizza and beer).

European police trunking radio is in the 400 to
500 Mhz region which is far better than the 800
Mhz trunking that is being down here in the US.


I'm familiar with amateur radio, repeaters, etcetera, but what is a
"trunked network"? Heard the expression, just don't have the vaguest
idea what it is.

Bob
k5qwg

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Old July 28th 03, 12:45 AM
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Get a CB license, Dickweed...


On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:20:18 -0500, N9NWO wrote:

I am interested in converting the 440 repeater
band to trunking. It would allow more folks,
not that we are seeing that much use as it is,
on the bands plus allow us to have talk groups
that would be either linked or local. In many
cases, instead of a number of repeater sites in
a county, it would be only one with multiple
repeaters on a single tower. Unlike cell phones,
there is little need for low power thus multiple
tower sites. Having to maintain a single site
in each county would reduce cost (if we can get
hams to work together, sometimes hams are too
"libertarian" thus it is even hard to organize
them for pizza and beer).

European police trunking radio is in the 400 to
500 Mhz region which is far better than the 800
Mhz trunking that is being down here in the US.


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Old July 28th 03, 12:45 AM
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Get a CB license, Dickweed...


On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:20:18 -0500, N9NWO wrote:

I am interested in converting the 440 repeater
band to trunking. It would allow more folks,
not that we are seeing that much use as it is,
on the bands plus allow us to have talk groups
that would be either linked or local. In many
cases, instead of a number of repeater sites in
a county, it would be only one with multiple
repeaters on a single tower. Unlike cell phones,
there is little need for low power thus multiple
tower sites. Having to maintain a single site
in each county would reduce cost (if we can get
hams to work together, sometimes hams are too
"libertarian" thus it is even hard to organize
them for pizza and beer).

European police trunking radio is in the 400 to
500 Mhz region which is far better than the 800
Mhz trunking that is being down here in the US.




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Old July 28th 03, 01:48 AM
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:44:10 GMT, R. David Steele
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:55:17 -0500, Bob Miller
wrote:

|On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:20:18 -0500, N9NWO wrote:
|
|I am interested in converting the 440 repeater
|band to trunking. It would allow more folks,
|not that we are seeing that much use as it is,
|on the bands plus allow us to have talk groups
|that would be either linked or local. In many
|cases, instead of a number of repeater sites in
|a county, it would be only one with multiple
|repeaters on a single tower. Unlike cell phones,
|there is little need for low power thus multiple
|tower sites. Having to maintain a single site
|in each county would reduce cost (if we can get
|hams to work together, sometimes hams are too
|"libertarian" thus it is even hard to organize
|them for pizza and beer).
|
|European police trunking radio is in the 400 to
|500 Mhz region which is far better than the 800
|Mhz trunking that is being down here in the US.
|
|I'm familiar with amateur radio, repeaters, etcetera, but what is a
|"trunked network"? Heard the expression, just don't have the vaguest
|idea what it is.
|
|Bob
|k5qwg

This is a good start http://www.trunkedradio.net/

Basically a trunked network has at each tower site,
several repeaters (about 5 but up to 12). Using a digital code, a
user group (ie talk group) be assigned a repeater for each push
of a mike. Thus the repeaters are constantly shifting but to the
users it sounds like they have a private channel. Some trunk systems
have over a thousand talk groups (Seattle). It is also possible to
like tower sites into a state wide system. For any user, it would
sound like he was on his home system. Normally there is only one
tower site in a county.



I use a Motora Maxxtrak in my business, and we talk on two private
channels -- I've been using trunking all this time, and didn't even
know it :-)

Bob
k5qwg

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Old July 28th 03, 01:48 AM
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 03:44:10 GMT, R. David Steele
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 09:55:17 -0500, Bob Miller
wrote:

|On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:20:18 -0500, N9NWO wrote:
|
|I am interested in converting the 440 repeater
|band to trunking. It would allow more folks,
|not that we are seeing that much use as it is,
|on the bands plus allow us to have talk groups
|that would be either linked or local. In many
|cases, instead of a number of repeater sites in
|a county, it would be only one with multiple
|repeaters on a single tower. Unlike cell phones,
|there is little need for low power thus multiple
|tower sites. Having to maintain a single site
|in each county would reduce cost (if we can get
|hams to work together, sometimes hams are too
|"libertarian" thus it is even hard to organize
|them for pizza and beer).
|
|European police trunking radio is in the 400 to
|500 Mhz region which is far better than the 800
|Mhz trunking that is being down here in the US.
|
|I'm familiar with amateur radio, repeaters, etcetera, but what is a
|"trunked network"? Heard the expression, just don't have the vaguest
|idea what it is.
|
|Bob
|k5qwg

This is a good start http://www.trunkedradio.net/

Basically a trunked network has at each tower site,
several repeaters (about 5 but up to 12). Using a digital code, a
user group (ie talk group) be assigned a repeater for each push
of a mike. Thus the repeaters are constantly shifting but to the
users it sounds like they have a private channel. Some trunk systems
have over a thousand talk groups (Seattle). It is also possible to
like tower sites into a state wide system. For any user, it would
sound like he was on his home system. Normally there is only one
tower site in a county.



I use a Motora Maxxtrak in my business, and we talk on two private
channels -- I've been using trunking all this time, and didn't even
know it :-)

Bob
k5qwg

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Old July 28th 03, 04:21 PM
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On Sat, 26 Jul 2003 17:20:18 -0500, N9NWO wrote:

I am interested in converting the 440 repeater
band to trunking.


Well the most economical way today would be LTR trunking. The cost of a
motorola or EDACS trunked system for hams as a group and for individuals would
be cost prohibitive. Maybe in a few years as cities and states change over to
digital systems cheaper second hand trunking equipment will be on the market.


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