"Dale J. " wrote in message ...
In article ,
Skipp adds a little more wrote:

As I mentioned before, a big clue is given in the grid to cathode short
description.

It takes a heck of a lot of energy to make these tube elements repeatedly
short. A parasitic bang is just such an animal.

Rich not only sells the kits cheap, but he provides the information to
"roll your own" on his web site.

cheers
skipp
http://sonic.ucdavis.edu

: Dale J. wrote:
: I doubt it's a parasitic, but if you want to explore that, Measures has
: his special parasitic kits for sale on his website.
: Cheers as they say
: Dale, K9VUJ

Hows come mine (AL-80A) doent parasite? I don't want to make a big
argument of this, but this has frustrated me with this talk of parasites
curing all the problems.


Its been pointed out to me that I have been an unhelpful old grump -
and, re-readinfg the Amateurs Code, I can see its true. My aplogies
all round - should have engaged brain before opening mouth.

Its an interesting fault - have downloaded the MFJ manual and will
study it when I have some spare time. However, a few comments in the
meantime...

1. If there was a faulty batch of tubes, they would have been cleared
out by now - MFJ would have had words with Amperex, so they can be
eliminated as future fault causes.

2. is it a design error - possibly, but then again MFJ would be aware
of it by now and offered a correction - this company would not stay in
business in the Amateur Radio marketplace if it didnt.

3. The filaments high at 5.7 volts - it can be safely assumed that MFJ
would have set them up properly at the factory - this suggests that
the AC line voltage is high - variations are not unknown (here its
plus/minus 10% on 240VAC - fine, except when it causes marginally
rated 220V European equipment to die - took me a while to figure
that one out....). Check the AC line voltage with a KNOWN ACCURATE
voltmeter (I like Fluke, because they come out of the factory set up
properly) and adjust transformer taps if necessary.

4. is it a parasitic oscillation - the traditional check is to swing
the plate tune capacitor acrtoss its range and check for multiple
small dips - if so, there is one. A more scientific way is to use a
spectrum analyser if available, a cheap way out there is to sit a
scanner near it and tune across every band etc and look for birdies
etc.

5. the dynamic bias (good way for QSK switching) and ALC circuit in
this thing looks interesting - possibly a fault there (which would
explain why the AL80A doesnt have problems - its fixed bias) - but
this is speculation, as I said I havent had time to check/compare both
circuits or analyse how the AL80B circuit is suppossed to work.

Anyway, again my aplogies to the group for being a Grump - will try
not to do it again.

73 de VK3BFA Andrew

Andrew VK3BFA wrote:

1. If there was a faulty batch of tubes, they would have been cleared
out by now - MFJ would have had words with Amperex, so they can be
eliminated as future fault causes.

2. is it a design error - possibly, but then again MFJ would be aware
of it by now and offered a correction - this company would not stay in
business in the Amateur Radio marketplace if it didnt.

3. The filaments high at 5.7 volts - it can be safely assumed that MFJ
would have set them up properly at the factory


How can it be safely assumed? You seem to be assuming too much of the
manufacturers. Their business is not humanitarian relief - they're in
this for the money. They would certainly not be the first one to make an
amp with the filament voltage too high.


73 .... WA7AA

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Zoran Brlecic wrote:

How can it be safely assumed? You seem to be assuming too much of the
manufacturers. Their business is not humanitarian relief - they're in
this for the money. They would certainly not be the first one to make an
amp with the filament voltage too high.


73 .... WA7AA

Perhaps you're on to something. My AL80A was mfg by Prime Instruments
which made a fine amplifier, still with the original Eimac tube.

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Dale J.
Bloomington, Minnesota

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"Dale J. " wrote in message ...
In article ,
Zoran Brlecic wrote:

How can it be safely assumed? You seem to be assuming too much of the
manufacturers. Their business is not humanitarian relief - they're in
this for the money. They would certainly not be the first one to make an
amp with the filament voltage too high.


73 .... WA7AA

Perhaps you're on to something. My AL80A was mfg by Prime Instruments
which made a fine amplifier, still with the original Eimac tube.

The vast majority of 3-500z amps have the filiment voltage set too
high from the factory. Probably 80% of them. Maybe more... most
henrys, including my 2k classic, TL-922's, SB-220's, most Ameritrons,
etc, all are guilty. You can stretch the tube life out a good bit if
you lower the voltage. MK

"Dale J. " wrote in message ...
In article ,
Zoran Brlecic wrote:

How can it be safely assumed? You seem to be assuming too much of the
manufacturers. Their business is not humanitarian relief - they're in
this for the money. They would certainly not be the first one to make an
amp with the filament voltage too high.


73 .... WA7AA

Perhaps you're on to something. My AL80A was mfg by Prime Instruments
which made a fine amplifier, still with the original Eimac tube.

The vast majority of 3-500z amps have the filiment voltage set too
high from the factory. Probably 80% of them. Maybe more... most
henrys, including my 2k classic, TL-922's, SB-220's, most Ameritrons,
etc, all are guilty. You can stretch the tube life out a good bit if
you lower the voltage. MK

In article ,
Zoran Brlecic wrote:

How can it be safely assumed? You seem to be assuming too much of the
manufacturers. Their business is not humanitarian relief - they're in
this for the money. They would certainly not be the first one to make an
amp with the filament voltage too high.


73 .... WA7AA

Perhaps you're on to something. My AL80A was mfg by Prime Instruments
which made a fine amplifier, still with the original Eimac tube.

--
Dale J.
Bloomington, Minnesota

E-mail:

Andrew VK3BFA wrote:

1. If there was a faulty batch of tubes, they would have been cleared
out by now - MFJ would have had words with Amperex, so they can be
eliminated as future fault causes.

2. is it a design error - possibly, but then again MFJ would be aware
of it by now and offered a correction - this company would not stay in
business in the Amateur Radio marketplace if it didnt.

3. The filaments high at 5.7 volts - it can be safely assumed that MFJ
would have set them up properly at the factory


How can it be safely assumed? You seem to be assuming too much of the
manufacturers. Their business is not humanitarian relief - they're in
this for the money. They would certainly not be the first one to make an
amp with the filament voltage too high.


73 .... WA7AA

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