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FCC endorses BPL, another threat to ham radio
Look up FCC rules Part 97.121 among others. I personally know a licensed amateur that was using Approved equipment, who never the less had his operating privlidges restricted in & around his home simply because People called & complained about TVI, & the FCC cited 97.121 in their letter to him as the reason for the restriction. OK. I did, and here it is: S 97.121 (a) If the operation of an amateur station causes general interference to the reception of transmissions from stations operating in the domestic broadcast service when receivers of good engineering design, including adequate selectivity characteristics, are used to receive such transmissions, and this fact is made known to the amateur station licensee, the amateur station shall not be operated during the hours from 8.PM to 10:30PM local time, and on Sunday for the additional period from 10:30AM unti 1PM, local time, upon the frequency or frequencies used when the interference is created. (b) In general, such steps as may be necessary to minimize interference to stations operating in other services may be required after investigation by the FCC. I don't see where the above applies to Internet service providers. They are not licensed stations, per se, anyway. You might also note how cable TV stations are dealt with under similar circumstances. They are always at fault if there is an RFI problem. Ed WB6SAT |
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"Ed G." wrote: Look up FCC rules Part 97.121 among others. I personally know a licensed amateur that was using Approved equipment, who never the less had his operating privlidges restricted in & around his home simply because People called & complained about TVI, & the FCC cited 97.121 in their letter to him as the reason for the restriction. OK. I did, and here it is: S 97.121 (a) If the operation of an amateur station causes general interference to the reception of transmissions from stations operating in the domestic broadcast service when receivers of good engineering design, including adequate selectivity characteristics, are used to receive such transmissions, and this fact is made known to the amateur station licensee, the amateur station shall not be operated during the hours from 8.PM to 10:30PM local time, and on Sunday for the additional period from 10:30AM unti 1PM, local time, upon the frequency or frequencies used when the interference is created. (b) In general, such steps as may be necessary to minimize interference to stations operating in other services may be required after investigation by the FCC. I don't see where the above applies to Internet service providers. They are not licensed stations, per se, anyway. You might also note how cable TV stations are dealt with under similar circumstances. They are always at fault if there is an RFI problem. Ed WB6SAT broadband DMT modems do not have selectivity. They use wideband filters in the front end and line driver areas (or perhaps none, in case of annex C) and do the frequency selection in DSP. They don't have "adequate selectivity characteristics". But then I assume too much about BPL. I think the selectivity clause will stick though. |
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"Ed G." wrote: Look up FCC rules Part 97.121 among others. I personally know a licensed amateur that was using Approved equipment, who never the less had his operating privlidges restricted in & around his home simply because People called & complained about TVI, & the FCC cited 97.121 in their letter to him as the reason for the restriction. OK. I did, and here it is: S 97.121 (a) If the operation of an amateur station causes general interference to the reception of transmissions from stations operating in the domestic broadcast service when receivers of good engineering design, including adequate selectivity characteristics, are used to receive such transmissions, and this fact is made known to the amateur station licensee, the amateur station shall not be operated during the hours from 8.PM to 10:30PM local time, and on Sunday for the additional period from 10:30AM unti 1PM, local time, upon the frequency or frequencies used when the interference is created. (b) In general, such steps as may be necessary to minimize interference to stations operating in other services may be required after investigation by the FCC. I don't see where the above applies to Internet service providers. They are not licensed stations, per se, anyway. You might also note how cable TV stations are dealt with under similar circumstances. They are always at fault if there is an RFI problem. Ed WB6SAT broadband DMT modems do not have selectivity. They use wideband filters in the front end and line driver areas (or perhaps none, in case of annex C) and do the frequency selection in DSP. They don't have "adequate selectivity characteristics". But then I assume too much about BPL. I think the selectivity clause will stick though. |
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OK. I did, and here it is:
S 97.121 (a) If the operation of an amateur station causes general interference to the reception of transmissions from stations operating in the domestic broadcast service when receivers of good engineering design, including adequate selectivity characteristics, are used to receive such transmissions, and this fact is made known to the amateur station licensee, the amateur station shall not be operated during the hours from 8.PM to 10:30PM local time, and on Sunday for the additional period from 10:30AM unti 1PM, local time, upon the frequency or frequencies used when the interference is created. (b) In general, such steps as may be necessary to minimize interference to stations operating in other services may be required after investigation by the FCC. I don't see where the above applies to Internet service providers. They are not licensed stations, per se, anyway. You might also note how cable TV stations are dealt with under similar circumstances. They are always at fault if there is an RFI problem. Ed WB6SAT broadband DMT modems do not have selectivity. They use wideband filters in the front end and line driver areas (or perhaps none, in case of annex C) and do the frequency selection in DSP. They don't have "adequate selectivity characteristics". Nor are they receiving transmissions from "stations in the domestic broadcast service". In fact, BPL systems do not appear to me to be "stations" operating in _any_ service. Hence, I don't think that either clause of 97.121 applies. That's not to say that the FCC won't contrive to pull a "through the looking glass" inversion, and come out with a ruling requiring licensed radio services to shut down to protect unlicensed land-line services. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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OK. I did, and here it is:
S 97.121 (a) If the operation of an amateur station causes general interference to the reception of transmissions from stations operating in the domestic broadcast service when receivers of good engineering design, including adequate selectivity characteristics, are used to receive such transmissions, and this fact is made known to the amateur station licensee, the amateur station shall not be operated during the hours from 8.PM to 10:30PM local time, and on Sunday for the additional period from 10:30AM unti 1PM, local time, upon the frequency or frequencies used when the interference is created. (b) In general, such steps as may be necessary to minimize interference to stations operating in other services may be required after investigation by the FCC. I don't see where the above applies to Internet service providers. They are not licensed stations, per se, anyway. You might also note how cable TV stations are dealt with under similar circumstances. They are always at fault if there is an RFI problem. Ed WB6SAT broadband DMT modems do not have selectivity. They use wideband filters in the front end and line driver areas (or perhaps none, in case of annex C) and do the frequency selection in DSP. They don't have "adequate selectivity characteristics". Nor are they receiving transmissions from "stations in the domestic broadcast service". In fact, BPL systems do not appear to me to be "stations" operating in _any_ service. Hence, I don't think that either clause of 97.121 applies. That's not to say that the FCC won't contrive to pull a "through the looking glass" inversion, and come out with a ruling requiring licensed radio services to shut down to protect unlicensed land-line services. -- Dave Platt AE6EO Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads! |
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This should not be a problem, You are represented by the Omnipitent and SELF SERVING, ARRL.. BUT WAIT. They do NOT carry anywhere near as much clout with the FCC as they used to. OH WELL!!!!! BFG On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:28:54 GMT, opcom wrote: This was posted to ARLI, I don't know how many subscribe, but in spite of the numerous comments against BPL (transmitting wideband internet data over power lines, which will destroy the HF radio spectrum), Gee, their goes 20 meters with all those "California Killowatts" Gee, Their goes 160 meters with all the bootleg AM broadcast transmitters.. Gee, there goes all those *ssholes with their Multi Killowatt 75 meter AM phone rigs Splattering 20 Khz either side of center.. Glad they finally stuck it up the Anal HF groups *ass. Just my opinion.. Bob the FCC seems disposed to encourage it anyway. evil! evil! just look up BPL on the web. The noise from the radiated signals trashed the ham bands thoroughly. ------------------- |
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This should not be a problem, You are represented by the Omnipitent and SELF SERVING, ARRL.. BUT WAIT. They do NOT carry anywhere near as much clout with the FCC as they used to. OH WELL!!!!! BFG On Thu, 25 Sep 2003 00:28:54 GMT, opcom wrote: This was posted to ARLI, I don't know how many subscribe, but in spite of the numerous comments against BPL (transmitting wideband internet data over power lines, which will destroy the HF radio spectrum), Gee, their goes 20 meters with all those "California Killowatts" Gee, Their goes 160 meters with all the bootleg AM broadcast transmitters.. Gee, there goes all those *ssholes with their Multi Killowatt 75 meter AM phone rigs Splattering 20 Khz either side of center.. Glad they finally stuck it up the Anal HF groups *ass. Just my opinion.. Bob the FCC seems disposed to encourage it anyway. evil! evil! just look up BPL on the web. The noise from the radiated signals trashed the ham bands thoroughly. ------------------- |
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Robert Hawk wrote: This should not be a problem, You are represented by the Omnipitent and SELF SERVING, ARRL.. BUT WAIT. They do NOT carry anywhere near as much clout with the FCC as they used to. OH WELL!!!!! BFG I think the ARRL is important as it was 43 years ago. I'm a 43 year supporter and I will be as long as I'm a air breathing walking talking ham. The ARRL is us. It is our voice in Washington. 73 Dale, K9VUJ -- |
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Robert Hawk wrote: This should not be a problem, You are represented by the Omnipitent and SELF SERVING, ARRL.. BUT WAIT. They do NOT carry anywhere near as much clout with the FCC as they used to. OH WELL!!!!! BFG I think the ARRL is important as it was 43 years ago. I'm a 43 year supporter and I will be as long as I'm a air breathing walking talking ham. The ARRL is us. It is our voice in Washington. 73 Dale, K9VUJ -- |
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