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October 5th 03, 05:20 AM
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Why is my 2watt radio only 0.83watt? advertised output doesn'tmatch certification specs.
Those are "advertising watts"? -- like "advertising Gigabytes." :-)
-=- Alan On 10/05/03 08:24 am AC/DCdude17 put fingers to keyboard and launched the following message into cyberspace: I got a 22 channel walkie talkie thingie from Wal-Mart, which you guys refer to as GMRS/FRS hybrid radio. The manual says 0.5 or 2W(selectable) from GMRS/FRS shared channel 1 to 7, 0.5W on 8-14 as a FRS radio and 15-22 GMRS only selectable between 0.5 and 2W. The package reads "2watt up to 5 miles" I got a copy of FCC certification sumbission for this radio and it reads: 478mW FRS 831mW GMRS How did the 831mW on certification submission turn into 2,000mW on manual and package? |
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October 5th 03, 05:20 AM
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Those are "advertising watts"? -- like "advertising Gigabytes." :-)
-=- Alan On 10/05/03 08:24 am AC/DCdude17 put fingers to keyboard and launched the following message into cyberspace: I got a 22 channel walkie talkie thingie from Wal-Mart, which you guys refer to as GMRS/FRS hybrid radio. The manual says 0.5 or 2W(selectable) from GMRS/FRS shared channel 1 to 7, 0.5W on 8-14 as a FRS radio and 15-22 GMRS only selectable between 0.5 and 2W. The package reads "2watt up to 5 miles" I got a copy of FCC certification sumbission for this radio and it reads: 478mW FRS 831mW GMRS How did the 831mW on certification submission turn into 2,000mW on manual and package? |
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#3
October 6th 03, 01:49 AM
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Here is the correct answer:
No one is lying, yet the marketers are using "specsmanship" to their advantage. The FCC is only interested in ERP (effective radiated power) in the FRS service, so for example your two watt radio has an antenna with a loss (not gain) of 3.8 dB, the ERP on GMRS is 831milliwatts, while on the FRS side, the output power is reduced by another 2.4 dB to meet the FCC limitation of 500 milliwatts ERP. Joe K4SAT. The RFI-EMI-GUY AC/DCdude17 wrote: I got a 22 channel walkie talkie thingie from Wal-Mart, which you guys refer to as GMRS/FRS hybrid radio. The manual says 0.5 or 2W(selectable) from GMRS/FRS shared channel 1 to 7, 0.5W on 8-14 as a FRS radio and 15-22 GMRS only selectable between 0.5 and 2W. The package reads "2watt up to 5 miles" I got a copy of FCC certification sumbission for this radio and it reads: 478mW FRS 831mW GMRS How did the 831mW on certification submission turn into 2,000mW on manual and package? -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny." -F.Z. |
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October 6th 03, 01:49 AM
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Here is the correct answer:
No one is lying, yet the marketers are using "specsmanship" to their advantage. The FCC is only interested in ERP (effective radiated power) in the FRS service, so for example your two watt radio has an antenna with a loss (not gain) of 3.8 dB, the ERP on GMRS is 831milliwatts, while on the FRS side, the output power is reduced by another 2.4 dB to meet the FCC limitation of 500 milliwatts ERP. Joe K4SAT. The RFI-EMI-GUY AC/DCdude17 wrote: I got a 22 channel walkie talkie thingie from Wal-Mart, which you guys refer to as GMRS/FRS hybrid radio. The manual says 0.5 or 2W(selectable) from GMRS/FRS shared channel 1 to 7, 0.5W on 8-14 as a FRS radio and 15-22 GMRS only selectable between 0.5 and 2W. The package reads "2watt up to 5 miles" I got a copy of FCC certification sumbission for this radio and it reads: 478mW FRS 831mW GMRS How did the 831mW on certification submission turn into 2,000mW on manual and package? -- Joe Leikhim K4SAT "Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny." -F.Z. |
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October 6th 03, 07:55 PM
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On 10/05/03 08:24 am AC/DCdude17 put fingers to keyboard and launched
the following message into cyberspace: I got a 22 channel walkie talkie thingie from Wal-Mart, which you guys refer to as GMRS/FRS hybrid radio. The manual says 0.5 or 2W(selectable) from GMRS/FRS shared channel 1 to 7, 0.5W on 8-14 as a FRS radio and 15-22 GMRS only selectable between 0.5 and 2W. The package reads "2watt up to 5 miles" I got a copy of FCC certification sumbission for this radio and it reads: 478mW FRS 831mW GMRS How did the 831mW on certification submission turn into 2,000mW on manual and package? Silly rabbit, FRS is for kids! - Stewart http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MURS-OPEN |
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October 6th 03, 07:55 PM
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On 10/05/03 08:24 am AC/DCdude17 put fingers to keyboard and launched
the following message into cyberspace: I got a 22 channel walkie talkie thingie from Wal-Mart, which you guys refer to as GMRS/FRS hybrid radio. The manual says 0.5 or 2W(selectable) from GMRS/FRS shared channel 1 to 7, 0.5W on 8-14 as a FRS radio and 15-22 GMRS only selectable between 0.5 and 2W. The package reads "2watt up to 5 miles" I got a copy of FCC certification sumbission for this radio and it reads: 478mW FRS 831mW GMRS How did the 831mW on certification submission turn into 2,000mW on manual and package? Silly rabbit, FRS is for kids! - Stewart http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MURS-OPEN |
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