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GMRS Watts v Distance?
snip Out of curiosity - are you aware of any actual enforcement actions in the past few years, taken against people using GMRS frequencies without a license? snip Google shows several violations Example http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2...-238457A1.html The point is -- it is the law. If you are aware of that and ignore it - you were forwarned. The FCC has its hands full - monitoring for idiots jamming Marine and Aircraft frequencies and causing ship or air collisions. But non-licensed GMRSers do occaisionally get caught -- do you really want to be one of them??? Lamont |
GMRS Watts v Distance?
"The Shadow" wrote in message ... snip Out of curiosity - are you aware of any actual enforcement actions in the past few years, taken against people using GMRS frequencies without a license? snip Google shows several violations Example http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2...-238457A1.html The point is -- it is the law. If you are aware of that and ignore it - you were forwarned. The FCC has its hands full - monitoring for idiots jamming Marine and Aircraft frequencies and causing ship or air collisions. But non-licensed GMRSers do occaisionally get caught -- do you really want to be one of them??? Lamont also see http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2...-257949A1.html |
GMRS Watts v Distance?
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"The Shadow" wrote: GMRS is NOT CB. See URL: http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...general_mobile GMRS frequencies are UHF- FM and requires a license and a fee for application (~ $75 ?). Use is sharply defined. Repeater operation is permitted. There are severe penalties for non-licensed users. Lots of details at URL: http://www.provide.net/~prsg/wi-gmrs.htm Lamont Actually, GMRS has it's roots in Citizens Band, as it started out life as Citizens Band Class A, when Citizens Band was Created in the 1960's. It was changed to GMRS much more recently by Commission Action. At one time ALL Citizen Band Radios were licensed, and required a License Fee be paid, and in truth, all Citizens Band Radios are still Licensed by the Commission, under a General Nationwide Blanket License created when the Commission dropped the Individual Licenses, and Fees, for those particular Radio Services. Bruce in alaska -- add path before @ |
GMRS Watts v Distance?
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"The Shadow" wrote: The FCC has its hands full - monitoring for idiots jamming Marine and Aircraft frequencies and causing ship or air collisions. Lamont Can you document a single case, where the FCC was involved in monitoring Marine, and, or, Aircraft Frequencies for Jammers, that caused a collision of a ship or aircraft? No, Really? Duh, I wonder why? Lamont, you have no clue what the FCC, does, and what it has been doing, since the ALGORE Bloodletting. Maybe you should get a "Clue" before you make any more Foolish Statements...... Bruce in alaska -- add path before @ |
GMRS Watts v Distance?
"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message ... In article , "The Shadow" wrote: GMRS is NOT CB. See URL: http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...general_mobile GMRS frequencies are UHF- FM and requires a license and a fee for application (~ $75 ?). Use is sharply defined. Repeater operation is permitted. There are severe penalties for non-licensed users. Lots of details at URL: http://www.provide.net/~prsg/wi-gmrs.htm Lamont Actually, GMRS has it's roots in Citizens Band, as it started out life as Citizens Band Class A, when Citizens Band was Created in the 1960's. It was changed to GMRS much more recently by Commission Action. At one time ALL Citizen Band Radios were licensed, and required a License Fee be paid, and in truth, all Citizens Band Radios are still Licensed by the Commission, under a General Nationwide Blanket License created when the Commission dropped the Individual Licenses, and Fees, for those particular Radio Services. Bruce in alaska Indeed Bruce all that is true but today CB is http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...ice_home&id=cb GMRS is http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...general_mobile Lot of differences, frequencies, modulation, useage, etc Lamont |
GMRS Watts v Distance?
"Bruce in Alaska" wrote in message ... In article , "The Shadow" wrote: The FCC has its hands full - monitoring for idiots jamming Marine and Aircraft frequencies and causing ship or air collisions. Lamont Can you document a single case, where the FCC was involved in monitoring Marine, and, or, Aircraft Frequencies for Jammers, that caused a collision of a ship or aircraft? No, Really? Duh, I wonder why? Lamont, you have no clue what the FCC, does, and what it has been doing, since the ALGORE Bloodletting. Maybe you should get a "Clue" before you make any more Foolish Statements...... Bruce in alaska -- add path before @ We recently had a FCC spokesperson at our Ham Club and he stated the above. I stand by my statements. Jammers or any interfering frequency --- spurs, harmonics, intermod can cause communication problems. I refer you to URL: http://www2.arrl.org/news/enforcemen...2003/0614.html http://www2.arrl.org/news/enforcemen...2003/0712.html http://w6yra.bol.ucla.edu/interest.htm http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=2&gl=us http://www.fcc.gov/eb/Orders/ Lots more if you get a clue and use Goggle Lamont |
GMRS Watts v Distance?
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:46:17 -0800, "The Shadow"
wrote: Actually, GMRS has it's roots in Citizens Band, as it started out life as Citizens Band Class A, when Citizens Band was Created in the 1960's. It was changed to GMRS much more recently by Commission Action. At one time ALL Citizen Band Radios were licensed, and required a License Fee be paid, and in truth, all Citizens Band Radios are still Licensed by the Commission, under a General Nationwide Blanket License created when the Commission dropped the Individual Licenses, and Fees, for those particular Radio Services. Bruce in alaska Indeed Bruce all that is true but today CB is http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...ice_home&id=cb GMRS is http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...general_mobile Lot of differences, frequencies, modulation, useage, etc Lamont I will have to side with Bruce on this one. The GMRS band (formerly Class A Citizen's Band) FRS and CB all fall under Part 95, Personal Radio Services. Each has its own characteristics, but they are all related to radio services for the general public as opposed to the Amateur Radio Service under Part 97. Dick - W6CCD -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
GMRS Watts v Distance?
"Dick" wrote in message ... On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:46:17 -0800, "The Shadow" wrote: Actually, GMRS has it's roots in Citizens Band, as it started out life as Citizens Band Class A, when Citizens Band was Created in the 1960's. It was changed to GMRS much more recently by Commission Action. At one time ALL Citizen Band Radios were licensed, and required a License Fee be paid, and in truth, all Citizens Band Radios are still Licensed by the Commission, under a General Nationwide Blanket License created when the Commission dropped the Individual Licenses, and Fees, for those particular Radio Services. Bruce in alaska Indeed Bruce all that is true but today CB is http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...ice_home&id=cb GMRS is http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...general_mobile Lot of differences, frequencies, modulation, useage, etc Lamont I will have to side with Bruce on this one. The GMRS band (formerly Class A Citizen's Band) FRS and CB all fall under Part 95, Personal Radio Services. Each has its own characteristics, but they are all related to radio services for the general public as opposed to the Amateur Radio Service under Part 97. Dick - W6CCD Agree but hopefully some readers are now aware of the differences between the CB and GMRS. One poster stated that GMRS is CB simply not true. Lamont |
GMRS Watts v Distance?
"The Shadow" wrote in message
... "D. Stussy" wrote in message ... "Steve Calvin" wrote in message ... Sorry if this isn't the right group to ask this, if not and someone know of a more appropriate group I'd appreciate a pointer. I currently have GMRS radios that are rated at "16 miles" (yeah, maybe on the salt flats or over water, ok, we all know about that). The are rated at 2W on the GMRS freq's and .5w on FRS. Why are the new "25 mile" units still rated at 2W? What's the difference in the two radios to justify the increased distance claims? Can't be frequency or a change to the privacy codes or they wouldn't work with older radios. Increased sensitivity/filtering? Hype? Hype and poor/deceptive advertising. Probably the advertising dept. is clueless as to actual specs. 2W on a unity gain antenna should have a maximum range of 1.4km (or 0.878 miles) given the standard receive sensitivity of 0.2u. GMRS is CB, and therefore, your better group by topic would have been "rec.rado.cb." However, I agree with other responses that you would probably get a better quality response here. GMRS is NOT CB. See URL: http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...general_mobile WRONG! GMRS is CB. It's defined in part 95, subpart A. All of part 95 is CB. What you're thinking of is only the 27MHz allocation - part 95, subpart D. FRS and MURS are also in part 95, and if you read the FCC's page on each, the FCC indicates that each is part of CB, but neither operates on 27MHz. GMRS frequencies are UHF- FM and requires a license and a fee for application (~ $75 ?). Use is sharply defined. Repeater operation is permitted. There are severe penalties for non-licensed users. It's still CB and you know it. |
GMRS Watts v Distance?
"Ty" wrote in message ... Lamont, Tell us how to "Goggle" We need a clue. ROTFLMAO at the stupidity. NWOAR Tie NWOAR Just kidding Tei Try googling goggle Lamont |
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