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AS someone on here said, GMRS is similar to CB (chicken bandits)
in that not all the GMRS chnls require any fee of any kind. I think chnl 1 thru 7 do require a license from the FCC and its $100 not $75 as someone said. If you stick to the "open chnls" Chnl 11 is on of them you dont need call signs nor anything, just use it like a telephone. I call sign, no identification required. Joe ************************************************** ************************ * Ham since 1937 HiSchool Sophomore ex W9ZUU, KP4EX, W4FAG, KH6ARG KH6JF * * WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS * ************************************************** ************************ |
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On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:59:07 -1000, Joseph Fenn
wrote: AS someone on here said, GMRS is similar to CB (chicken bandits) in that not all the GMRS chnls require any fee of any kind. I think chnl 1 thru 7 do require a license from the FCC and its $100 not $75 as someone said. If you stick to the "open chnls" Chnl 11 is on of them you dont need call signs nor anything, just use it like a telephone. I call sign, no identification required. Joe ************************************************* ************************* * Ham since 1937 HiSchool Sophomore ex W9ZUU, KP4EX, W4FAG, KH6ARG KH6JF * * WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS * ************************************************* ************************* I know a lot of people are under that mis-conception because of the combination FRS/GMRS radios sold at Wal-Mart, etc., but in actuality, ALL GMRS channels require a license if operated as GMRS (over 1/2-watt, detachable antenna.) If you operate on one of the interstial channels (FRS channels 1 thru 7), where FRS and GMRS channels are the same, and you operate under the FRS rules (1/2-watt maximum, non-detacheable antenna), then yes, you can operate one of those channels without a license. But only as FRS, and not GMRS. The latest fee for GMRS is $85. http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form1070/2006/1070y101706.pdf Dick - W6CCD -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
GMRS
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Dick wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:59:07 -1000, Joseph Fenn wrote: AS someone on here said, GMRS is similar to CB (chicken bandits) in that not all the GMRS chnls require any fee of any kind. I think chnl 1 thru 7 do require a license from the FCC and its $100 not $75 as someone said. If you stick to the "open chnls" Chnl 11 is on of them you dont need call signs nor anything, just use it like a telephone. I call sign, no identification required. Joe I know a lot of people are under that mis-conception because of the combination FRS/GMRS radios sold at Wal-Mart, etc., but in actuality, ALL GMRS channels require a license if operated as GMRS (over 1/2-watt, detachable antenna.) If you operate on one of the interstial channels (FRS channels 1 thru 7), where FRS and GMRS channels are the same, and you operate under the FRS rules (1/2-watt maximum, non-detacheable antenna), then yes, you can operate one of those channels without a license. But only as FRS, and not GMRS. The latest fee for GMRS is $85. http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form1070/2006/1070y101706.pdf Dick - W6CCD Wrong again Dick. I called the FCC and asked what chnls are "free" and what chnls require a license. They told me and the ones that the ones requiring a license cost $100 (not 75 as you claimed).. Joe |
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On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:17:30 -1000, Joseph Fenn
wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Dick wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 10:59:07 -1000, Joseph Fenn wrote: AS someone on here said, GMRS is similar to CB (chicken bandits) in that not all the GMRS chnls require any fee of any kind. I think chnl 1 thru 7 do require a license from the FCC and its $100 not $75 as someone said. If you stick to the "open chnls" Chnl 11 is on of them you dont need call signs nor anything, just use it like a telephone. I call sign, no identification required. Joe I know a lot of people are under that mis-conception because of the combination FRS/GMRS radios sold at Wal-Mart, etc., but in actuality, ALL GMRS channels require a license if operated as GMRS (over 1/2-watt, detachable antenna.) If you operate on one of the interstial channels (FRS channels 1 thru 7), where FRS and GMRS channels are the same, and you operate under the FRS rules (1/2-watt maximum, non-detacheable antenna), then yes, you can operate one of those channels without a license. But only as FRS, and not GMRS. The latest fee for GMRS is $85. http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form1070/2006/1070y101706.pdf Dick - W6CCD Wrong again Dick. I called the FCC and asked what chnls are "free" and what chnls require a license. They told me and the ones that the ones requiring a license cost $100 (not 75 as you claimed).. Joe I don't care who you talked to Joe, there are no "free" channels when you use a GMRS radio that transmits with over 1/2-watt and has a removeable antenna. They are only "free" if you transmit on one of the interstitial channels with an FRS radio. When you transmit on one of the "free" channels you are using FRS, even though the radio can also transmit on one of the true GMRS channels. You really need to read Part 95. If you transmit under the GMRS rules, you MUST have a GMRS license. If you transmit under the FRS rules, you don't. Did you even read the FCC document I referred to above? It clearly shows the fee to be $85. I recently renewed my GMRS license, and guess what? The fee was $85 just like the fee schedule shows. Here is the latest version of the fee schedule, dated September 18, 2007. http://wireless.fcc.gov/feesforms/fe...09.18.07 .pdf Dick Dick -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Dick -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Dick I think direct question to FCC via phone is enuff unless we got liars at the FCC. Its $100 bux not $85. And as I said these are sold at Radio Shack and chnls 1-thru 7 require the license. You dare not open you mouth on those. Chnl 11 is free and clear and about 4 others also and require no call sines nor charges of any kind. No ID, nothing. I have mine locked to my wifes on chnl 11 and though I listen to the licensed chnls some times, they sound like they are breaking all the rules in the ID. "hey frank did you finish your job yet"? "Answer no I'm about to finish shortly" Those are mot even up to CB standards!!! Joe |
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On Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:14:20 -1000, Joseph Fenn
wrote: ` Dick -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Dick I think direct question to FCC via phone is enuff unless we got liars at the FCC. Its $100 bux not $85. And as I said these are sold at Radio Shack and chnls 1-thru 7 require the license. You dare not open you mouth on those. Chnl 11 is free and clear and about 4 others also and require no call sines nor charges of any kind. No ID, nothing. I have mine locked to my wifes on chnl 11 and though I listen to the licensed chnls some times, they sound like they are breaking all the rules in the ID. "hey frank did you finish your job yet"? "Answer no I'm about to finish shortly" Those are mot even up to CB standards!!! Joe Joe - What am I going to do with you? You are the classic case of you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Here is the EXACT wording from the latest FCC fee schedule. ************************************************** ***************** Part 95 General Mobile Radio Service The instructions that follow are for filing applications. Select the purpose of filing and follow the instructions below: New, Renewal or Renewal/Modification • FCC 605 • FCC 159 • Payment/Fee Type Code: PAZR - $85.00 Fee ************************************************** **************** I cut and pasted that from the URL leading to the FCC PDF file on fees that I listed for you in the previous message. I assure you the $85 fee is correct for a GMRS license. I think the problem you are having is that you either asked the wrong question, or didn't understand what the FCC person told you. If you want to make sure there is no misunderstanding between you and the FCC, call them again and say these exact words, "I have a 25-watt GMRS radio in my car, and an antenna mounted on the roof. What are the channels that I can operate on without a license?" I guarantee you that they will say NONE! I will try to explain this to you one more time, then I give up. When you buy one of the 22-channel FRS/GMRS radios from Radio Shack, etc. these are primarily FRS radios. To meet the FRS specifications the must transmit with less than 1/2-watt and the antenna cannot be removeable. I.E. you cannot use any other antenna with it. They also have to meet a certain frequency tolerance. Normally, an FRS radio has 14 channels. But in these hybrid radios there are 7 channels that are called the interstitial channels. These are channels use by both FRS and GMRS. Then there are 7 channels that are FRS only, and 7 channels that are GMRS only. There is also an emergency channel of 462.675 MHz for the 22nd channel. This is sometimes channel 0 in a GMRS radio. You can operate on any of the first 14 channels without a license because they are FRS channels. However, you must have a license to operate on the 7 (8) channels that are GMRS only. The important thing to understand here is that, on the 7 interstitial channels (combination FRS and GMRS) they are only designated that way so you can talk to a GMRS operator and they to you on their 7 channels. However, when you talk to a GMRS operator on one of those 7 channels you are operating as FRS not GMRS. I don't know how I can make that concept any more clear. THERE ARE NO FREE GMRS channels, just free FRS channels. They just happen to be the same frequency. When I say GMRS operator, I'm talking about someone using a true GMRS radio up to 25-watts with a removable antenna, not one of these hybrid toy radios. You're on your own now Joe. I have other things to do besides trying to teach you something useful when you won't listen. Dick - W6CCD Extra Class ARRL Volunteer Examiner -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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Joe - What am I going to do with you? You are the classic case of you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. Here is the EXACT wording from the latest FCC fee schedule. ************************************************** ***************** Well you got it all wrong. I dont have no 25 watts nor an external antenna of any kind, just the 3 " rubber duck on top of the handheld. You can lead me to beer but not water. Also am not a horse nor a horses ass as you might think!!!!!!. Joe |
GMRS
Joseph Fenn wrote:
You can lead me to beer but not water. Now *there's* something I can relate to! ;-D -- Steve |
GMRS
JRS wrote:
On Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:19:16 -1000, Joseph Fenn wrote: You can lead me to beer but not water. Joe Lead the way, Joe. I'm right behind you and I'll buy the first round. John paid 75 for my license last year and the guy that quoted the part 95 is 100% correct. |
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