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Old November 27th 03, 12:14 PM
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"Clif Holland" wrote in message
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The problem is to get the 10-20w out of the radio you may have to shove

100w
into the filter, and that's what hurts. You need to monitor the current
drawn to determine if there is a possibility of damage.


Give this man a cigar because he's today's exclusive winner on 21!

The problem is that most modern hams today don't have a clue about what
you're talking about because most modern hams don't understand the theory
behind bandpass filtration, especially in their own Riceboxes. They actually
believe the radios will go from DC to Daylight once opened.

I believe this is the reason why Yaesu, Kenwood, and Icom haven't publicly
released the mods to these radios (other than to MARS/CAP members) because
these companies know damn well that they'll be performing a slue of warranty
repairs on the lot because some jack ass will actually try to use his radio
on the commercial AM broadcast band.


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Old November 30th 03, 02:18 AM
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The problem is to get the 10-20w out of the radio you may have to
shove 100w into the filter, and that's what hurts. You need to
monitor the current drawn to determine if there is a possibility of
damage.



If you are having the above problem, then there's something wrong with
you radio. My 746Pro puts out nearly full power on 60M, as it does on
all other bands with absolutely NO change in current draw. If the default
40M filter was attenuating the 60M signal that much it would sure show up
on the watt meter!


Ed WB6SAT


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Old November 30th 03, 02:18 AM
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The problem is to get the 10-20w out of the radio you may have to
shove 100w into the filter, and that's what hurts. You need to
monitor the current drawn to determine if there is a possibility of
damage.



If you are having the above problem, then there's something wrong with
you radio. My 746Pro puts out nearly full power on 60M, as it does on
all other bands with absolutely NO change in current draw. If the default
40M filter was attenuating the 60M signal that much it would sure show up
on the watt meter!


Ed WB6SAT


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Old November 26th 03, 11:39 AM
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On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:12:36 GMT, "Ed G."
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Hmmm, mine works OK! I have made numerous QSOs on 60m
but most were during the first week that it was opened!

Nothing melted in mine.


YET! I think the prudent thing to do is make sure you are running
relatively low power when operating on 60M. You are supposed to be
running maximum of 50W ERP. I'd think 10 or 20 watts out of the
transmitter would prevent over-heating of the band pass filter components.



Ed WB6SAT

Yeah - that makes sense. Thank you.

If I go on 60 m again I will do just that.

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Old November 26th 03, 01:45 PM
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The problem is to get the 10-20w out of the radio you may have to shove 100w
into the filter, and that's what hurts. You need to monitor the current
drawn to determine if there is a possibility of damage.

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"Ed G." wrote in message
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Hmmm, mine works OK! I have made numerous QSOs on 60m
but most were during the first week that it was opened!

Nothing melted in mine.


YET! I think the prudent thing to do is make sure you are running
relatively low power when operating on 60M. You are supposed to be
running maximum of 50W ERP. I'd think 10 or 20 watts out of the
transmitter would prevent over-heating of the band pass filter components.



Ed WB6SAT






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Old December 7th 03, 05:06 PM
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Anyone that understands the operation of solid state PA sections with band
pass filtering for each band would not risk using the rig out of band. It
may not of hurt anything yet but why risk it. In time it will catch up to
you. The filters are designed to present a safe matched impedeance to the PA
for a specific frequency range and attentuate any spurs. Icom says no...what
about "dont do it " dont you understand?

Gary


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Old December 7th 03, 10:57 PM
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 17:06:15 GMT, "Gary Poland" wrote:

Anyone that understands the operation of solid state PA sections with band
pass filtering for each band would not risk using the rig out of band. It
may not of hurt anything yet but why risk it. In time it will catch up to
you. The filters are designed to present a safe matched impedeance to the PA
for a specific frequency range and attentuate any spurs. Icom says no...what
about "dont do it " dont you understand?

Gary


Probably the same part that hundreds of others of us
"don't understand", who are enjoying our IC746 rigs
every day on 60m ya numbskull!

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Old December 7th 03, 10:57 PM
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On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 17:06:15 GMT, "Gary Poland" wrote:

Anyone that understands the operation of solid state PA sections with band
pass filtering for each band would not risk using the rig out of band. It
may not of hurt anything yet but why risk it. In time it will catch up to
you. The filters are designed to present a safe matched impedeance to the PA
for a specific frequency range and attentuate any spurs. Icom says no...what
about "dont do it " dont you understand?

Gary


Probably the same part that hundreds of others of us
"don't understand", who are enjoying our IC746 rigs
every day on 60m ya numbskull!

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Old December 7th 03, 05:06 PM
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Anyone that understands the operation of solid state PA sections with band
pass filtering for each band would not risk using the rig out of band. It
may not of hurt anything yet but why risk it. In time it will catch up to
you. The filters are designed to present a safe matched impedeance to the PA
for a specific frequency range and attentuate any spurs. Icom says no...what
about "dont do it " dont you understand?

Gary


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Old November 25th 03, 11:12 PM
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Hmmm, mine works OK! I have made numerous QSOs on 60m
but most were during the first week that it was opened!

Nothing melted in mine.


YET! I think the prudent thing to do is make sure you are running
relatively low power when operating on 60M. You are supposed to be
running maximum of 50W ERP. I'd think 10 or 20 watts out of the
transmitter would prevent over-heating of the band pass filter components.



Ed WB6SAT




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