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Old January 4th 04, 11:12 AM
Jim Chumbley
 
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This is my only concern:

These are the questions being raised by Mr. Mustapa:
a.) Can you use a linear amplifier on transmit or receive or both?
b.) Can someone help [me] on the software (ADMS-2H) for "programming"
the Yaesu FT-8900R?

These are not the questions of an experienced ham or of someone in the
process of learning technology so as to become a new ham. I have been an
Elmer for 30 years and have never heard thoughts like these being voiced. In
private emails Mr. Mustapa sent to me--to which I did not reply--he thinks
that my concern is about technical questions and conversations being carried
on by someone who is not a ham. This is absolutely not the case. Before any
of us was a ham we learned from someone, probably a ham. That's part of the
purpose, I hope, of this newsgroup. On that we can all agree.

No, my concern is that if questions like these are being asked by a non-ham,
what is his purpose in learning answers to technical questions like these.

I am afraid. I am very afraid.

I have been so ever since 9/11/2001, the date the World Trade Center was
destroyed in New York City.

These questions sound to me exactly like those that would be asked by
someone in Al Qaeda who is trying to develop just enough communications
expertise to learn to use amateur radio equipment like linear amplifiers and
new VHF/UHF transceivers like the Yaesu FT-8900R. With radios like the
beautiful, easy-to-get Yaesu FT-8900R, Al Qaeda can build a complete,
clandestine, world-wide communications system by using our small
transceivers to communicate with each other through our amateur radio
satellites.

Is it paranoid to be this concerned as I am? If the pilot training schools
had refused to train the pilot-trainees who learned just enough to fly the
big Boeings into the World Trade Center, they just might have never learned
how to do it. If we refuse to offer assistance, information, or programming
help to someone who admits that he is not a ham and does not intend to
become one, we just might prevent one person or more from setting up a new
Al Qaeda communications network and becoming the Al Qaeda Director of
World-wide Communications.

Afraid? You bet I'm afraid. I hope you are also.

I have no idea what Mr. Mustapa's intentions are. I do not even know which
continent he lives on. I accuse him of nothing. If his real intentions are
to learn CW at 5 WPM plus theory and regulations for a General-class
licensee, I would be very glad to help him myself in any way I can. But from
the tone of the questions asked, I am certain that I will never help to
answer those questions. I urge all other hams to follow this lead and not
share your technical expertise with people who bring great attention to
themselves by the very strangeness of the questions they ask. Ask yourself
whether the country might be harmed by helping people who ask questions like
these. Your answer at a minimum must be yes and a realization that there is
at least a real possibility that if you help people asking strange
questions, our country could be rendered less safe. And there is a real
possibility that if you help someone who asks questions like these, you
could be aiding in the future murder of thousands more people. We just don't
know.

Thank you for reading my response. I do not attend to write even one more. I
have said enough. May heaven bless you all, and may its protection extend
over all of the United States of America.

James F. Chumbley, N6UF
5082 Gazania Drive
San Jose, CA 95111-3915
1(408)578-1874


p.s. So how about it, Mr. Mustapa? Will you also post the real address of
where you live? Will you also post your telephone number?

Regards,

James F. Chumbley
Amateur Radio Station N6UF
__________________________________________________ __________________________

"Mohd Nazry Bin Mustapa" wrote in message
...
: I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFIED, THIS NEWS GROUP IS NOT FOR HAM MEMBER
: ONLY............
:
: AS WHAT I KNOW THIS NEWS GROUP IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHICH COME FROM ALL
WALK
: OF LIFE THAT CAN SHARE THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERIENCE.
:
: BUT SOMEHOW OR RATHER, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY PROUD OF THEM SELF
SUCH
: AS MR JIM CHUMBLEY WHICH DO NOT WANT TO ASIST ME ON ANYTHING BUT RATHER TO
: TURN ME DOWN CAUSE I AM NOT A HAM MEMBER YET.[Refer to my posting and
: feedback from Mr. Jim Chumbley on 3rd January 2004]
:
: ANYWAY TO ALL THE PEOPLE OUT THERE, I WILL SIT FOR MY EXAMINATION IN THIS
: NEAR FUTURE, AND I DON'T THINK IF I HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THAT.
:
: IF YOU THINK CAREFULLY, IF SOMEONE INTERESTED WITH HAM BUT CAN'T GET ANY
: INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FROM A FORUM, NEWS GROUP, CLUB OR FRIENDS ( IN
: OTHER WORDS, HAM ARE SECRETIVE), DO YOU THINK HE OR SHE MIGHT BE A HAM
LATER
: ON?
:
: ONE THING YOU MUST REMEMBER, A HAM MUST BE HELPFUL AND READY TO SERVE THE
: PUBLIC IN ANY CASES WHICH HE MIGHT BE.
: + A LOT OF NEW FRIENDS AND CONTACT.
:
: ANYWAY I FEEL THIS IS A VERY GOOD NEWS GROUP TO GAIN ALL THE KNOWLEDGE AND
: EXPERIENCE.
:
:
:


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Old January 4th 04, 07:10 PM
Michael Black
 
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"Jim Chumbley" ) writes:
This is my only concern:

These are the questions being raised by Mr. Mustapa:
a.) Can you use a linear amplifier on transmit or receive or both?
b.) Can someone help [me] on the software (ADMS-2H) for "programming"
the Yaesu FT-8900R?

These are not the questions of an experienced ham or of someone in the
process of learning technology so as to become a new ham. I have been an
Elmer for 30 years and have never heard thoughts like these being voiced. In
private emails Mr. Mustapa sent to me--to which I did not reply--he thinks
that my concern is about technical questions and conversations being carried
on by someone who is not a ham. This is absolutely not the case. Before any
of us was a ham we learned from someone, probably a ham. That's part of the
purpose, I hope, of this newsgroup. On that we can all agree.

No, my concern is that if questions like these are being asked by a non-ham,
what is his purpose in learning answers to technical questions like these.

I am afraid. I am very afraid.

I have been so ever since 9/11/2001, the date the World Trade Center was
destroyed in New York City.
[stuff deleted]


I've not been following this, so I don't know what the guy asked exactly
in the first place. But those two questions as you pose them at the
beginning really have nothing to do with terrorism.

They are very similar to questions we see all the time; people wanting to
use ham equipment out of band (and that includes people who are indeed
licensed hams and should know better), and absolute novices who have no
interest in amateur radio but want a solution without any knowledge of
licensing requirements, and people wanting to do things like pirate
broadcast radio.

Maybe he original message indicated something more. But as you present
it, there is nothing there.

Except for the name he is posting under, which doesn't even have to be
his real name.

And from that information, it strikes me that you are commenting based
on his name, not on what he is asking.

People can be clueless no matter what their name, so I don't think
it's fair to read something into this based on his name. Indeed,
if this was what the guy was up to, I'd expect him to use a name
that wouldn't stick out. I could argue that someone might have picked
the name precisely because they figure it will trigger someone like
you, that it's as bogus as so many other names people use in the newsgroups.

Michael VE2BVW


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Old January 4th 04, 07:10 PM
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"Jim Chumbley" ) writes:
This is my only concern:

These are the questions being raised by Mr. Mustapa:
a.) Can you use a linear amplifier on transmit or receive or both?
b.) Can someone help [me] on the software (ADMS-2H) for "programming"
the Yaesu FT-8900R?

These are not the questions of an experienced ham or of someone in the
process of learning technology so as to become a new ham. I have been an
Elmer for 30 years and have never heard thoughts like these being voiced. In
private emails Mr. Mustapa sent to me--to which I did not reply--he thinks
that my concern is about technical questions and conversations being carried
on by someone who is not a ham. This is absolutely not the case. Before any
of us was a ham we learned from someone, probably a ham. That's part of the
purpose, I hope, of this newsgroup. On that we can all agree.

No, my concern is that if questions like these are being asked by a non-ham,
what is his purpose in learning answers to technical questions like these.

I am afraid. I am very afraid.

I have been so ever since 9/11/2001, the date the World Trade Center was
destroyed in New York City.
[stuff deleted]


I've not been following this, so I don't know what the guy asked exactly
in the first place. But those two questions as you pose them at the
beginning really have nothing to do with terrorism.

They are very similar to questions we see all the time; people wanting to
use ham equipment out of band (and that includes people who are indeed
licensed hams and should know better), and absolute novices who have no
interest in amateur radio but want a solution without any knowledge of
licensing requirements, and people wanting to do things like pirate
broadcast radio.

Maybe he original message indicated something more. But as you present
it, there is nothing there.

Except for the name he is posting under, which doesn't even have to be
his real name.

And from that information, it strikes me that you are commenting based
on his name, not on what he is asking.

People can be clueless no matter what their name, so I don't think
it's fair to read something into this based on his name. Indeed,
if this was what the guy was up to, I'd expect him to use a name
that wouldn't stick out. I could argue that someone might have picked
the name precisely because they figure it will trigger someone like
you, that it's as bogus as so many other names people use in the newsgroups.

Michael VE2BVW


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Old January 4th 04, 08:32 PM
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"Michael Black" wrote in message
...
Except for the name he is posting under, which doesn't even have to be
his real name.


If I were a terrorist, and looking for info that I could use for some plot,
I don't think I would use a name that would indicate that I was a member of
a suspect group. It's too easy on Usenet to call yourself anything you
like, or nothing at all.


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Old January 4th 04, 08:32 PM
Brenda Ann
 
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"Michael Black" wrote in message
...
Except for the name he is posting under, which doesn't even have to be
his real name.


If I were a terrorist, and looking for info that I could use for some plot,
I don't think I would use a name that would indicate that I was a member of
a suspect group. It's too easy on Usenet to call yourself anything you
like, or nothing at all.




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Old January 4th 04, 09:01 PM
Zoran Brlecic
 
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Jim Chumbley wrote:

These questions sound to me exactly like those that would be asked by
someone in Al Qaeda who is trying to develop just enough communications
expertise to learn to use amateur radio equipment like linear amplifiers and
new VHF/UHF transceivers like the Yaesu FT-8900R.



Getting a little paranoid, are we? If this is how Al Qeada operates,
then I say open the borders - we have nothing to fear.

73 ... WA7AA


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Old January 4th 04, 09:01 PM
Zoran Brlecic
 
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Jim Chumbley wrote:

These questions sound to me exactly like those that would be asked by
someone in Al Qaeda who is trying to develop just enough communications
expertise to learn to use amateur radio equipment like linear amplifiers and
new VHF/UHF transceivers like the Yaesu FT-8900R.



Getting a little paranoid, are we? If this is how Al Qeada operates,
then I say open the borders - we have nothing to fear.

73 ... WA7AA


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Old January 5th 04, 01:42 AM
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Very good point.

Brenda Ann wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote in message
...

Except for the name he is posting under, which doesn't even have to be
his real name.



If I were a terrorist, and looking for info that I could use for some plot,
I don't think I would use a name that would indicate that I was a member of
a suspect group. It's too easy on Usenet to call yourself anything you
like, or nothing at all.



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Old January 5th 04, 01:42 AM
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Very good point.

Brenda Ann wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote in message
...

Except for the name he is posting under, which doesn't even have to be
his real name.



If I were a terrorist, and looking for info that I could use for some plot,
I don't think I would use a name that would indicate that I was a member of
a suspect group. It's too easy on Usenet to call yourself anything you
like, or nothing at all.



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