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Damaged by a lightning ?
Hi,
Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution panel - you had installed another protection - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor Why ? All this will help me to conclude the article dealing with this matter : http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/qsl-...protection.htm Thanks in advance NB. Answer preferably through these forums to please everybody. Thierry ON4SKY |
I believe lightning struck my chimney and took out the lawn sprinkler
control system and a couple of appliances. After a while I found the reason. The clamp on the ground rod for the house ground wire had disintegrated and I think the disintigration was caused by galvanic action. I just replaced with awhat I thought was a better one and the new one didn't corrode. 73 hank wd5jfr "Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ... Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution panel - you had installed another protection - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor Why ? All this will help me to conclude the article dealing with this matter : http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/qsl-...protection.htm Thanks in advance NB. Answer preferably through these forums to please everybody. Thierry ON4SKY |
I believe lightning struck my chimney and took out the lawn sprinkler
control system and a couple of appliances. After a while I found the reason. The clamp on the ground rod for the house ground wire had disintegrated and I think the disintigration was caused by galvanic action. I just replaced with awhat I thought was a better one and the new one didn't corrode. 73 hank wd5jfr "Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ... Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution panel - you had installed another protection - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor Why ? All this will help me to conclude the article dealing with this matter : http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/qsl-...protection.htm Thanks in advance NB. Answer preferably through these forums to please everybody. Thierry ON4SKY |
"Let us spray"?
"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message ... I believe lightning struck my chimney and took out the lawn sprinkler control system and a couple of appliances. |
"Let us spray"?
"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message ... I believe lightning struck my chimney and took out the lawn sprinkler control system and a couple of appliances. |
Safe Breaker wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:49:25 -0000, "Airy R. Bean" wrote: "Let us spray"? Face it, if wit was sh*t you'd be constipated. I think you're being a bit harsh on Airy -- David |
Safe Breaker wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:49:25 -0000, "Airy R. Bean" wrote: "Let us spray"? Face it, if wit was sh*t you'd be constipated. I think you're being a bit harsh on Airy -- David |
"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message ... I believe lightning struck my chimney and took out the lawn sprinkler control system and a couple of appliances. After a while I found the reason. The clamp on the ground rod for the house ground wire had disintegrated and I think the disintigration was caused by galvanic action. I just replaced with awhat I thought was a better one and the new one didn't corrode. Indeed, without care the binding between two metals is always "at risk". Polyphaser and other grounding kit manufacturers provide products to prevent this kind of corrosion, including coating for anchor guys (like Anchor Guard). Thierry 73 hank wd5jfr "Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ... Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution panel - you had installed another protection - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor Why ? All this will help me to conclude the article dealing with this matter : http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/qsl-...protection.htm Thanks in advance NB. Answer preferably through these forums to please everybody. Thierry ON4SKY |
"Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message ... I believe lightning struck my chimney and took out the lawn sprinkler control system and a couple of appliances. After a while I found the reason. The clamp on the ground rod for the house ground wire had disintegrated and I think the disintigration was caused by galvanic action. I just replaced with awhat I thought was a better one and the new one didn't corrode. Indeed, without care the binding between two metals is always "at risk". Polyphaser and other grounding kit manufacturers provide products to prevent this kind of corrosion, including coating for anchor guys (like Anchor Guard). Thierry 73 hank wd5jfr "Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ... Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution panel - you had installed another protection - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor Why ? All this will help me to conclude the article dealing with this matter : http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/qsl-...protection.htm Thanks in advance NB. Answer preferably through these forums to please everybody. Thierry ON4SKY |
The CBer reveals herself every time that she opens her mouth....
"Safe Breaker" wrote in message ... Face it, if wit was sh*t you'd be constipated. |
The CBer reveals herself every time that she opens her mouth....
"Safe Breaker" wrote in message ... Face it, if wit was sh*t you'd be constipated. |
Station grounded to central ground (10 foot ground rod in Georgia Clay tied
to 60 radials each 60 feet long 1" below the surface put in before the house was built.) Power unplugged all antennas grounded via the antenna switch. 1/2 of G5RV up 40 feet, antenna vaporized with only bits and pieces found, the other half undamaged. Came in via powerlines and antenna. All electronic devices in the house destroyed All antennas on 80 foot tower were untouched. main stroke followed the powerlines in the attic. The overpressure blew vinyl siding off the house. In the hamshack the voltage exited the coax from a coiled section burning the rug. TS-830 and 440 destroyed in spite of being unplugged. 6 foot color TV, electronic air cleaner, VCR etc all destroyed. The only electronic survivor was a bedside GE $10 radio alarm clock. This is a rural setting on 29 acres. Closest house 1/2 mile away. All utilities underground from the road to the house. Closest overhead utilities are 1600 feet away. "Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ... Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... |
Station grounded to central ground (10 foot ground rod in Georgia Clay tied
to 60 radials each 60 feet long 1" below the surface put in before the house was built.) Power unplugged all antennas grounded via the antenna switch. 1/2 of G5RV up 40 feet, antenna vaporized with only bits and pieces found, the other half undamaged. Came in via powerlines and antenna. All electronic devices in the house destroyed All antennas on 80 foot tower were untouched. main stroke followed the powerlines in the attic. The overpressure blew vinyl siding off the house. In the hamshack the voltage exited the coax from a coiled section burning the rug. TS-830 and 440 destroyed in spite of being unplugged. 6 foot color TV, electronic air cleaner, VCR etc all destroyed. The only electronic survivor was a bedside GE $10 radio alarm clock. This is a rural setting on 29 acres. Closest house 1/2 mile away. All utilities underground from the road to the house. Closest overhead utilities are 1600 feet away. "Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ... Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... |
W4JLE ...
^ Station grounded to central ground (10 foot ground rod in ^ Georgia Clay tied to 60 radials each 60 feet long 1" below ^ the surface put in before the house was built.) Nice! Are you taking it with you when you move? Frank |
W4JLE ...
^ Station grounded to central ground (10 foot ground rod in ^ Georgia Clay tied to 60 radials each 60 feet long 1" below ^ the surface put in before the house was built.) Nice! Are you taking it with you when you move? Frank |
"Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ...
Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? My mast has been struck twice in the last 4 years. I am interested in your experience... If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. My mast is the central ground point. It's tied into to water pipe, which is about 2 ft away, and also tied into my "ground window" outside the shack. All the ground here is tied together, and at the same potential. The water pipe is iron, not pvc. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event Gears???? No compute... - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection Yes. So was my computer and monitor. Neither flinched at all. - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution panel No. - you had installed another protection No. - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices Yes. But to my radios only. IE: rig and amp unplugged from the wall. Phone line to the computer unplugged. All the other stuff in the house/room was left on and plugged in. My computer was on, as was the TV in the room, which is on cable. - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) Most all of the strike energy went straight to ground via the mast I'm fairly sure. I had no damage to anything anywhere. The only thing is did was blow a hole in my electrical tape "water cap" on the top of the mast. Also made the slightest arc spot on the end of the mast. You would have to look hard to see it. Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. Accident? What accident? The lightning strike did exactly what I was intending/hoping it would do. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor Why ? You can protect from a direct strike. The level of protection will depend on the clamping voltage of the gas tube, or whatever you use. The higher power gas tubes clamp at a higher voltage. If you want max protection use a low power protector. But I'm too paranoid to operate during lightning. I see no point anyway, being the static would be a mess... I totally unhook and ground all antennas. Also, my mast is much most likely to attract a strike rather than my antennas themselves. They just float along for the ride. My coaxes all run all the way down to the ground. The mast acts as a lightning rod in my case. I was sitting 15 feet away from my mast when it struck mine. In reality, it's kind of a non event..It's so quick , it's over before you realize what happened. The strike itself is pretty quiet if you have a low resistance connection like a well grounded mast. About like throwing a lightbulb on the ground and breaking it. Only the sonic boom overhead is loud. You also hear a click in your auditory nerves when you are that close. Lightning has also hit tall trees in our yard in that time period. The tree in the front yard was nailed a few months ago. MK |
"Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ...
Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? My mast has been struck twice in the last 4 years. I am interested in your experience... If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. My mast is the central ground point. It's tied into to water pipe, which is about 2 ft away, and also tied into my "ground window" outside the shack. All the ground here is tied together, and at the same potential. The water pipe is iron, not pvc. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event Gears???? No compute... - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection Yes. So was my computer and monitor. Neither flinched at all. - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution panel No. - you had installed another protection No. - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices Yes. But to my radios only. IE: rig and amp unplugged from the wall. Phone line to the computer unplugged. All the other stuff in the house/room was left on and plugged in. My computer was on, as was the TV in the room, which is on cable. - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) Most all of the strike energy went straight to ground via the mast I'm fairly sure. I had no damage to anything anywhere. The only thing is did was blow a hole in my electrical tape "water cap" on the top of the mast. Also made the slightest arc spot on the end of the mast. You would have to look hard to see it. Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. Accident? What accident? The lightning strike did exactly what I was intending/hoping it would do. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor Why ? You can protect from a direct strike. The level of protection will depend on the clamping voltage of the gas tube, or whatever you use. The higher power gas tubes clamp at a higher voltage. If you want max protection use a low power protector. But I'm too paranoid to operate during lightning. I see no point anyway, being the static would be a mess... I totally unhook and ground all antennas. Also, my mast is much most likely to attract a strike rather than my antennas themselves. They just float along for the ride. My coaxes all run all the way down to the ground. The mast acts as a lightning rod in my case. I was sitting 15 feet away from my mast when it struck mine. In reality, it's kind of a non event..It's so quick , it's over before you realize what happened. The strike itself is pretty quiet if you have a low resistance connection like a well grounded mast. About like throwing a lightbulb on the ground and breaking it. Only the sonic boom overhead is loud. You also hear a click in your auditory nerves when you are that close. Lightning has also hit tall trees in our yard in that time period. The tree in the front yard was nailed a few months ago. MK |
Mark Keith . ..
^ - you left some gears switched on during the strike event ^ ^ Gears???? No compute... "Gear", not "gears". "Gear" is both singular and plural without the apostrophe but that sense doesn't translate well. He means "equipment". Frank |
Mark Keith . ..
^ - you left some gears switched on during the strike event ^ ^ Gears???? No compute... "Gear", not "gears". "Gear" is both singular and plural without the apostrophe but that sense doesn't translate well. He means "equipment". Frank |
Many thanks to all you you.
I will probably contact you personally very soon. 73's Thierry ON4SKY "Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ... Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution panel - you had installed another protection - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor Why ? All this will help me to conclude the article dealing with this matter : http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/qsl-...protection.htm Thanks in advance NB. Answer preferably through these forums to please everybody. Thierry ON4SKY |
Many thanks to all you you.
I will probably contact you personally very soon. 73's Thierry ON4SKY "Thierry" To answer me in private use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote in message ... Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution panel - you had installed another protection - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor Why ? All this will help me to conclude the article dealing with this matter : http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/qsl-...protection.htm Thanks in advance NB. Answer preferably through these forums to please everybody. Thierry ON4SKY |
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:03:59 +0100, "Thierry" To answer me in private
use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote: Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... The " system" gets hit about 3 times a year on average. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : Rarely does the system suffer damage. - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. The system uses a network, or grid of ground rods. 31 in the antenna and radio system, plus 5 for the house electrical system. It's all bonded together. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event Gears as in aircrafts ... Queens English Vs US English = Gear and aircraft:-)) Over here neither uses an s which is confusing to some. - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection Rarely is the gear disconnected and I don't remember the last time I disconnected a coax due to storms. - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution I do not have any in the distribution panel. I do have PolyPhasers for each coax mounted on a common bulkhead which is tied to the ground system using bare #2 copper cable. panel - you had installed another protection - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices Never bother. - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) I lost one computer due to a pulse coming in on the telephone line. Nothing spectacular. Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. The one telephone cable was hot to ground with enough voltage to fry the solid state components. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor I have 31 ground rods in the radio station ground system tied (cad welded) to over 600 feet of bare copper cable within 2 inches of the surface. All antennas are grounded either due to design, or a balun. The devices appear to work as advertised. Why ? I've lost one PolyPhaser with no damage to the rig that was hooked to it. (Kenwood TM-V7A) I had one lightening strike destroy a repeater antenna, blow out a section of 5/8ths inch Heliax about 30 feet down from the antenna, as well as blow off every bit of water proofing and all the silver plating from every coax connector at the top of the tower. The only damage was the input transistor in a two meter rig which was not the rig connected to the antenna that was hit. That rig was not protected by a PolyPhaser. Lightening and the results of a strike are unpredictable, but with the repeated strikes here, experience has shown me that apparently the PolyPhasers do their job in a well designed system. Last Summer I had a barrel connector (N type) short out in the coax from one of the 75 meter slopers to the tower mounted antenna selector. I'm assuming it was probably a near by strike, but I have no way of knowing for sure. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com All this will help me to conclude the article dealing with this matter : http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/qsl-...protection.htm Thanks in advance NB. Answer preferably through these forums to please everybody. Thierry ON4SKY |
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 15:03:59 +0100, "Thierry" To answer me in private
use http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/post.htm wrote: Hi, Was your house/shack stroken by Thor's hammer, I mean a lightning recently ? I am interested in your experience... The " system" gets hit about 3 times a year on average. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm If your installaiton was damaged by a strike event, I would like to now if : Rarely does the system suffer damage. - you used a central ground point bonded to an external grounding system, as well as the home ground. The system uses a network, or grid of ground rods. 31 in the antenna and radio system, plus 5 for the house electrical system. It's all bonded together. - you left some gears switched on during the strike event Gears as in aircrafts ... Queens English Vs US English = Gear and aircraft:-)) Over here neither uses an s which is confusing to some. - you left the TX switched on and the coaxial plugged without protection Rarely is the gear disconnected and I don't remember the last time I disconnected a coax due to storms. - you installed or not lightning controllers in your electric distribution I do not have any in the distribution panel. I do have PolyPhasers for each coax mounted on a common bulkhead which is tied to the ground system using bare #2 copper cable. panel - you had installed another protection - you swicthed off and unplugged all devices Never bother. - you think that the energy came back via the grounding network (probably dut to a difference of potential in a device) I lost one computer due to a pulse coming in on the telephone line. Nothing spectacular. Tell me only in a few words what was the most probable cause of the accident. The one telephone cable was hot to ground with enough voltage to fry the solid state components. At last, if you master the subject, do you really think that a grounding system, as best it could be as the advice provided by PolyPhaser for example, will never protect you against a direct strike on your antenna or on the house lightning conductor I have 31 ground rods in the radio station ground system tied (cad welded) to over 600 feet of bare copper cable within 2 inches of the surface. All antennas are grounded either due to design, or a balun. The devices appear to work as advertised. Why ? I've lost one PolyPhaser with no damage to the rig that was hooked to it. (Kenwood TM-V7A) I had one lightening strike destroy a repeater antenna, blow out a section of 5/8ths inch Heliax about 30 feet down from the antenna, as well as blow off every bit of water proofing and all the silver plating from every coax connector at the top of the tower. The only damage was the input transistor in a two meter rig which was not the rig connected to the antenna that was hit. That rig was not protected by a PolyPhaser. Lightening and the results of a strike are unpredictable, but with the repeated strikes here, experience has shown me that apparently the PolyPhasers do their job in a well designed system. Last Summer I had a barrel connector (N type) short out in the coax from one of the 75 meter slopers to the tower mounted antenna selector. I'm assuming it was probably a near by strike, but I have no way of knowing for sure. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com All this will help me to conclude the article dealing with this matter : http://www.astrosurf.com/lombry/qsl-...protection.htm Thanks in advance NB. Answer preferably through these forums to please everybody. Thierry ON4SKY |
Roger Halstead wrote:
The " system" gets hit about 3 times a year on average. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm Interesting site. However the links to your larger pictures are all broken. They refer to files on your local PC eg: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator.ROGER2.000/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/ham_files/tower8.htm -- 73 Laurie - G6ISY |
Roger Halstead wrote:
The " system" gets hit about 3 times a year on average. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm Interesting site. However the links to your larger pictures are all broken. They refer to files on your local PC eg: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator.ROGER2.000/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/ham_files/tower8.htm -- 73 Laurie - G6ISY |
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:48:06 -0000, "Laurie"
wrote: Roger Halstead wrote: The " system" gets hit about 3 times a year on average. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm Interesting site. However the links to your larger pictures are all broken. They refer to files on your local PC eg: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator.ROGER2.000/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/ham_files/tower8.htm Thanks for telling me. I uploaded some frames for the local EAA Chapter and apparently "Front Page" in its infuriating propensity to change everything to it's way of thinking "did it to me" again. FP is great to work with "at times", but it uses sloppy and bloated code you don't need. And... If you forget it'll upload files other than what you planned. Down load 'em and then re upload them and you will find them reconfigured. sigh Back to fixing links. (I wonder what else may have been broken) I have nearly 60 megs on those pages. Again, thanks, Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:48:06 -0000, "Laurie"
wrote: Roger Halstead wrote: The " system" gets hit about 3 times a year on average. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm Interesting site. However the links to your larger pictures are all broken. They refer to files on your local PC eg: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator.ROGER2.000/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/ham_files/tower8.htm Thanks for telling me. I uploaded some frames for the local EAA Chapter and apparently "Front Page" in its infuriating propensity to change everything to it's way of thinking "did it to me" again. FP is great to work with "at times", but it uses sloppy and bloated code you don't need. And... If you forget it'll upload files other than what you planned. Down load 'em and then re upload them and you will find them reconfigured. sigh Back to fixing links. (I wonder what else may have been broken) I have nearly 60 megs on those pages. Again, thanks, Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:48:06 -0000, "Laurie"
wrote: Roger Halstead wrote: The " system" gets hit about 3 times a year on average. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm Interesting site. However the links to your larger pictures are all broken. They refer to files on your local PC eg: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator.ROGER2.000/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/ham_files/tower8.htm sigh It wasn't as bad as I feared, but not as good as I hoped.:-)) Having a backup, I turned off the FP extensions on the server, up-loaded the tower.htm file using ftp and then went through it image by image. One directory missing, 4 files missing (htms) and one bad link. and one image. I have no idea as to where it put that image which is supposed to be in a sub directory one level down from ham_files which is one level down from the root. All-in-all, about 20 minutes to fix including the wait for FP to reconfigure. That utility can be great for some things and a royal pain for others. At least the frames still work. OTOH when I get the interactive *stuff* going I won't be able to turn them off. Again, thanks for letting me know about the broken links. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:48:06 -0000, "Laurie"
wrote: Roger Halstead wrote: The " system" gets hit about 3 times a year on average. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm Interesting site. However the links to your larger pictures are all broken. They refer to files on your local PC eg: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator.ROGER2.000/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/ham_files/tower8.htm sigh It wasn't as bad as I feared, but not as good as I hoped.:-)) Having a backup, I turned off the FP extensions on the server, up-loaded the tower.htm file using ftp and then went through it image by image. One directory missing, 4 files missing (htms) and one bad link. and one image. I have no idea as to where it put that image which is supposed to be in a sub directory one level down from ham_files which is one level down from the root. All-in-all, about 20 minutes to fix including the wait for FP to reconfigure. That utility can be great for some things and a royal pain for others. At least the frames still work. OTOH when I get the interactive *stuff* going I won't be able to turn them off. Again, thanks for letting me know about the broken links. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
Roger Halstead wrote:
sigh It wasn't as bad as I feared, but not as good as I hoped.:-)) [snip] All-in-all, about 20 minutes to fix including the wait for FP to reconfigure. That utility can be great for some things and a royal pain for others. I've got the same FP 't-shirt' :-) Again, thanks for letting me know about the broken links. You're welcome, all seems fine now. You have a much better head for heights than I have. -- 73 Laurie - G6ISY |
Roger Halstead wrote:
sigh It wasn't as bad as I feared, but not as good as I hoped.:-)) [snip] All-in-all, about 20 minutes to fix including the wait for FP to reconfigure. That utility can be great for some things and a royal pain for others. I've got the same FP 't-shirt' :-) Again, thanks for letting me know about the broken links. You're welcome, all seems fine now. You have a much better head for heights than I have. -- 73 Laurie - G6ISY |
Great site Roger! Makes me tired just looking at it. :-)
Dick - W6CCD On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:34:18 GMT, Roger Halstead wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:48:06 -0000, "Laurie" wrote: Roger Halstead wrote: The " system" gets hit about 3 times a year on average. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm Interesting site. However the links to your larger pictures are all broken. They refer to files on your local PC eg: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator.ROGER2.000/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/ham_files/tower8.htm sigh It wasn't as bad as I feared, but not as good as I hoped.:-)) Having a backup, I turned off the FP extensions on the server, up-loaded the tower.htm file using ftp and then went through it image by image. One directory missing, 4 files missing (htms) and one bad link. and one image. I have no idea as to where it put that image which is supposed to be in a sub directory one level down from ham_files which is one level down from the root. All-in-all, about 20 minutes to fix including the wait for FP to reconfigure. That utility can be great for some things and a royal pain for others. At least the frames still work. OTOH when I get the interactive *stuff* going I won't be able to turn them off. Again, thanks for letting me know about the broken links. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
Great site Roger! Makes me tired just looking at it. :-)
Dick - W6CCD On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:34:18 GMT, Roger Halstead wrote: On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 19:48:06 -0000, "Laurie" wrote: Roger Halstead wrote: The " system" gets hit about 3 times a year on average. http://www.rogerhalstead.com/ham_files/tower.htm Interesting site. However the links to your larger pictures are all broken. They refer to files on your local PC eg: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/Administrator.ROGER2.000/My%20Documents/My%20Webs/ham_files/tower8.htm sigh It wasn't as bad as I feared, but not as good as I hoped.:-)) Having a backup, I turned off the FP extensions on the server, up-loaded the tower.htm file using ftp and then went through it image by image. One directory missing, 4 files missing (htms) and one bad link. and one image. I have no idea as to where it put that image which is supposed to be in a sub directory one level down from ham_files which is one level down from the root. All-in-all, about 20 minutes to fix including the wait for FP to reconfigure. That utility can be great for some things and a royal pain for others. At least the frames still work. OTOH when I get the interactive *stuff* going I won't be able to turn them off. Again, thanks for letting me know about the broken links. Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com |
"Roger Halstead"
Rarely does the system suffer damage. ...one computer... ...one PolyPhaser... ...a repeater antenna... ...a section of 5/8ths inch Heliax... ...every bit of water proofing... ...all the silver plating... ...a two meter rig... ...a barrel connector (N type)... Geesus H. ! I guess so long as you think that you're happy, then you're happy. ;-) Carry on then. |
"Roger Halstead"
Rarely does the system suffer damage. ...one computer... ...one PolyPhaser... ...a repeater antenna... ...a section of 5/8ths inch Heliax... ...every bit of water proofing... ...all the silver plating... ...a two meter rig... ...a barrel connector (N type)... Geesus H. ! I guess so long as you think that you're happy, then you're happy. ;-) Carry on then. |
"J. Harvey" wrote in message m... "Roger Halstead" Rarely does the system suffer damage. ...one computer... ...one PolyPhaser... ...a repeater antenna... ...a section of 5/8ths inch Heliax... ...every bit of water proofing... ...all the silver plating... ...a two meter rig... ...a barrel connector (N type)... Geesus H. ! I saw the result of a lightening strike at Barkway on Royston Heath. The lightening came down our waveguide without any damage but inside teh equipemy huit it vapourised teh big circuit breaker on teh wall and left a hole wher it had been and chared melted wires some distance above and below wher the box had been mounted. I guess so long as you think that you're happy, then you're happy. ;-) cogito ergo sum Only some 3,000 years earlier. Gary7SLL |
"J. Harvey" wrote in message m... "Roger Halstead" Rarely does the system suffer damage. ...one computer... ...one PolyPhaser... ...a repeater antenna... ...a section of 5/8ths inch Heliax... ...every bit of water proofing... ...all the silver plating... ...a two meter rig... ...a barrel connector (N type)... Geesus H. ! I saw the result of a lightening strike at Barkway on Royston Heath. The lightening came down our waveguide without any damage but inside teh equipemy huit it vapourised teh big circuit breaker on teh wall and left a hole wher it had been and chared melted wires some distance above and below wher the box had been mounted. I guess so long as you think that you're happy, then you're happy. ;-) cogito ergo sum Only some 3,000 years earlier. Gary7SLL |
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC), "Gary Peach"
wrote: "J. Harvey" wrote in message om... "Roger Halstead" Rarely does the system suffer damage. ...one computer... ...one PolyPhaser... ...a repeater antenna... ...a section of 5/8ths inch Heliax... ...every bit of water proofing... ...all the silver plating... ...a two meter rig... ...a barrel connector (N type)... Geesus H. ! I saw the result of a lightening strike at Barkway on Royston Heath. The lightening came down our waveguide without any damage but inside teh equipemy huit it vapourised teh big circuit breaker on teh wall and left a hole wher it had been and chared melted wires some distance above and below wher the box had been mounted. Can't think of a better place for "lightening" to strike than Barkway. I kate it you where in eht RAF hewn all this happened? -- Jock. |
On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC), "Gary Peach"
wrote: "J. Harvey" wrote in message om... "Roger Halstead" Rarely does the system suffer damage. ...one computer... ...one PolyPhaser... ...a repeater antenna... ...a section of 5/8ths inch Heliax... ...every bit of water proofing... ...all the silver plating... ...a two meter rig... ...a barrel connector (N type)... Geesus H. ! I saw the result of a lightening strike at Barkway on Royston Heath. The lightening came down our waveguide without any damage but inside teh equipemy huit it vapourised teh big circuit breaker on teh wall and left a hole wher it had been and chared melted wires some distance above and below wher the box had been mounted. Can't think of a better place for "lightening" to strike than Barkway. I kate it you where in eht RAF hewn all this happened? -- Jock. |
"Jock" wrote in message ... On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:29:19 +0000 (UTC), "Gary Peach" wrote: "J. Harvey" wrote in message om... "Roger Halstead" Rarely does the system suffer damage. ...one computer... ...one PolyPhaser... ...a repeater antenna... ...a section of 5/8ths inch Heliax... ...every bit of water proofing... ...all the silver plating... ...a two meter rig... ...a barrel connector (N type)... Geesus H. ! I saw the result of a lightening strike at Barkway on Royston Heath. The lightening came down our waveguide without any damage but inside teh equipemy huit it vapourised teh big circuit breaker on teh wall and left a hole wher it had been and chared melted wires some distance above and below wher the box had been mounted. Can't think of a better place for "lightening" to strike than Barkway. I kate it you where in eht RAF hewn all this happened? No, Engineer (Microwave) with PYE Telecommunications We had teh first non GPO television microwave link between Birmingham and London. We were trying to break teh GPO monopoly on supplying and also regulating radio communications. It must have worked because the GPO /BT is no longer the only supplieer. CML building Birmingham, Meriden, Cold Ashby, Barkway, Hill Crest (Highgate, just down teh road from the BBC station at Swains Lane) We were contracted to ATV. Teh Link was used to show the adverts going out in Birmingham to the sponsors in London. Thanks for taking the **** out of my creeping disability, It keeps a sens of proportion for me, console yourself that it won't last much longer and I won't be able to type at all. Gary7SLL |
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