In message , David Woolley
writes
Ian Jackson wrote:


Probably the easiest way of getting radios for use in Tibet is to
source them locally, and get them shipped to a convenient collection
point. China and Hong Kong are certainly not short of manufacturers!

Even for an American in the UK, that would be the best approach, as
radios not specifically approved for PMR 446 are not covered by the
class licence.

I note that the OP's intended radio (Motorola Spirit UHF) is 1 channel.
2W. The Chinese public service radios are only 0.5W (and with a tiddly
antenna), so even if these are readily available, they might not be
quite suitable.

For China, it will be part a question of protecting their own industry
and partly a national security issue.

Importing two-way radios into China would probably not be threatening
their own industry. They probably originated there in the first place!

Given its history, national security is likely to be a particularly
important issue in Tibet.

It says in
http://tel_archives.ofca.gov.hk/en/a.../nsp2002p3.pdf

"In December 2001, the Ministry of Information Industry of China
announced that short-range portable radio transceivers, or
"walkie-talkies",
operating in the band 409.7500 – 409.9875 MHz with transmitter power not
exceeding 0.5W were exempted from licensing."

Presumably these are legal to use throughout all of China - but you
never know. In certain countries, being legal does not guarantee you
won't have problems. Only a couple of weeks ago, a German radio amateur,
operating absolutely 100% legally when on holiday in Greece, was
arrested and hauled before the courts. I believe he is back home, but
may need to return for a full trial.
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/jun..._arrested_in_g
reece.htm
and links.
--
Ian

On Jun 19, 9:47*am, Ian Jackson
wrote:
In message , David Woolley
writesIan Jackson wrote:

Probably the easiest way of getting radios for use in Tibet is to
source them locally, and get them shipped to a convenient collection
point. *China and Hong Kong are certainly not short of manufacturers!

Even for an American in the UK, that would be the best approach, as
radios not specifically approved for PMR 446 are not covered by the
class licence.

I note that the OP's intended radio (Motorola Spirit UHF) is 1 channel.
2W. The Chinese public service radios are only 0.5W (and with a tiddly
antenna), so even if these are readily available, they might not be
quite suitable.

For China, it will be part a question of protecting their own industry
and partly a national security issue.

Importing two-way radios into China would probably not be threatening
their own industry. They probably originated there in the first place!

Given its history, national security is likely to be a particularly
important issue in Tibet.

It says inhttp://tel_archives.ofca.gov.hk/en/ad-comm/tsac/ns-paper/nsp2002p3.pdf

"In December 2001, the Ministry of Information Industry of China
announced that short-range portable radio transceivers, or
"walkie-talkies",
operating in the band 409.7500 – 409.9875 MHz with transmitter power not
exceeding 0.5W were exempted from licensing."

Presumably these are legal to use throughout all of China - but you
never know. In certain countries, being legal does not guarantee you
won't have problems. Only a couple of weeks ago, a German radio amateur,
operating absolutely 100% legally when on holiday in Greece, was
arrested and hauled before the courts. I believe he is back home, but
may need to return for a full trial.
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/jun..._arrested_in_g
reece.htm
and links.
--
Ian

If he was in the rightr then he was in the right.

Holiday insurance should cover that and I'd be seeking legal redress
from the Greeks if there are any avenues to pursue.

As I've always preached - take no s***t from anyone especially
when you have right on your side.

Analogue Lettuce wrote:

As I've always preached - take no s***t from anyone especially
when you have right on your side.


It's good advice for him to remember when he is serving his 5 month jail
sentence for refusing to turn over his log files, because he refused to
give them a laptop which had nothing to do with his radio operation.

Geoff.

--
Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379