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Mad Dog October 11th 04 04:00 PM

SWR meter and tuner for mobile HF
 
I am using a 706 MKIIG in the truck and i would like to use
a HF SWR meter because the transceiver does not have a SWR
function for HF only VHF.
I am building the mobile station 1 piece at a time while acquiring
my General class license and would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz
A SWR meter/antenna tuner that includes 2-meter would simplify
things greatly.
I am presently using a Diamond tri-bander on the VHF side.
I have been switching beween a 20 meter and 40 meter hamstick
while monitoring the HF side and listening to the CW broadcasts nightly.
I have looked at the MFJ lineup and really appreciate a compact unit that
is both durable and rugged because i travel the country in a KW W900L.
The antenna tuner will be used to put the finishing touch on the hamsticks
and finish tune the tri-bander.
I hope i furnished enough info to base your opinions on and
thanx n advance.
--
KG4LBD



Dick October 11th 04 05:47 PM

You have that backward. The SWR meter only functions on ANT 1 which
is HF/50. It does not function on VHF or UHF.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:00:08 -0400, "Mad Dog" wrote:

I am using a 706 MKIIG in the truck and i would like to use
a HF SWR meter because the transceiver does not have a SWR
function for HF only VHF.
I am building the mobile station 1 piece at a time while acquiring
my General class license and would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz
A SWR meter/antenna tuner that includes 2-meter would simplify
things greatly.
I am presently using a Diamond tri-bander on the VHF side.
I have been switching beween a 20 meter and 40 meter hamstick
while monitoring the HF side and listening to the CW broadcasts nightly.
I have looked at the MFJ lineup and really appreciate a compact unit that
is both durable and rugged because i travel the country in a KW W900L.
The antenna tuner will be used to put the finishing touch on the hamsticks
and finish tune the tri-bander.
I hope i furnished enough info to base your opinions on and
thanx n advance.



Dick October 11th 04 05:47 PM

You have that backward. The SWR meter only functions on ANT 1 which
is HF/50. It does not function on VHF or UHF.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:00:08 -0400, "Mad Dog" wrote:

I am using a 706 MKIIG in the truck and i would like to use
a HF SWR meter because the transceiver does not have a SWR
function for HF only VHF.
I am building the mobile station 1 piece at a time while acquiring
my General class license and would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz
A SWR meter/antenna tuner that includes 2-meter would simplify
things greatly.
I am presently using a Diamond tri-bander on the VHF side.
I have been switching beween a 20 meter and 40 meter hamstick
while monitoring the HF side and listening to the CW broadcasts nightly.
I have looked at the MFJ lineup and really appreciate a compact unit that
is both durable and rugged because i travel the country in a KW W900L.
The antenna tuner will be used to put the finishing touch on the hamsticks
and finish tune the tri-bander.
I hope i furnished enough info to base your opinions on and
thanx n advance.



Dick October 11th 04 05:47 PM

You have that backward. The SWR meter only functions on ANT 1 which
is HF/50. It does not function on VHF or UHF.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:00:08 -0400, "Mad Dog" wrote:

I am using a 706 MKIIG in the truck and i would like to use
a HF SWR meter because the transceiver does not have a SWR
function for HF only VHF.
I am building the mobile station 1 piece at a time while acquiring
my General class license and would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz
A SWR meter/antenna tuner that includes 2-meter would simplify
things greatly.
I am presently using a Diamond tri-bander on the VHF side.
I have been switching beween a 20 meter and 40 meter hamstick
while monitoring the HF side and listening to the CW broadcasts nightly.
I have looked at the MFJ lineup and really appreciate a compact unit that
is both durable and rugged because i travel the country in a KW W900L.
The antenna tuner will be used to put the finishing touch on the hamsticks
and finish tune the tri-bander.
I hope i furnished enough info to base your opinions on and
thanx n advance.



Fred McKenzie October 11th 04 07:04 PM

I am building the mobile station 1 piece at a time while acquiring
my General class license and would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz
A SWR meter/antenna tuner that includes 2-meter would simplify
things greatly.

George-

I have the older IC-706, and I'm fairly sure it has an SWR function, at least
on HF.

Most VHF/UHF antennas will cover the band without a tuner.

I have found that the Hamstick antenna is fairly broad, so if you tune it for
the center of 20 Meters, it should be close enough for the entire band without
a tuner.

The 40 Meter Hamstick is not so broad. If you want to use it on both SSB and
CW, then you will need a tuner. Without a tuner, it may cover the General
Class portion of SSB, but barely. (The 75 Meter version may not cover the
entire band, even with a tuner!)

Any of the MFJ small tuners should work. However, you would have to transmit
full power (AM, FM or CW mode) to accomplish tuning the way it comes. Look
into the "BET 706 tune control", available from AES for $33, although you may
be able to find construction details on the web. This device lets you generate
a low power signal for use while adjusting your SWR.

I have the Icom AT-180, which works well through 6 Meters. To me it was worth
it not to have to fuss with a manual tuner, but it is a bit pricey. If I was
shopping for one now, I'd look into the recent MFJ auto tuners.

73, Fred, K4DII


Fred McKenzie October 11th 04 07:04 PM

I am building the mobile station 1 piece at a time while acquiring
my General class license and would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz
A SWR meter/antenna tuner that includes 2-meter would simplify
things greatly.

George-

I have the older IC-706, and I'm fairly sure it has an SWR function, at least
on HF.

Most VHF/UHF antennas will cover the band without a tuner.

I have found that the Hamstick antenna is fairly broad, so if you tune it for
the center of 20 Meters, it should be close enough for the entire band without
a tuner.

The 40 Meter Hamstick is not so broad. If you want to use it on both SSB and
CW, then you will need a tuner. Without a tuner, it may cover the General
Class portion of SSB, but barely. (The 75 Meter version may not cover the
entire band, even with a tuner!)

Any of the MFJ small tuners should work. However, you would have to transmit
full power (AM, FM or CW mode) to accomplish tuning the way it comes. Look
into the "BET 706 tune control", available from AES for $33, although you may
be able to find construction details on the web. This device lets you generate
a low power signal for use while adjusting your SWR.

I have the Icom AT-180, which works well through 6 Meters. To me it was worth
it not to have to fuss with a manual tuner, but it is a bit pricey. If I was
shopping for one now, I'd look into the recent MFJ auto tuners.

73, Fred, K4DII


Fred McKenzie October 11th 04 07:04 PM

I am building the mobile station 1 piece at a time while acquiring
my General class license and would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz
A SWR meter/antenna tuner that includes 2-meter would simplify
things greatly.

George-

I have the older IC-706, and I'm fairly sure it has an SWR function, at least
on HF.

Most VHF/UHF antennas will cover the band without a tuner.

I have found that the Hamstick antenna is fairly broad, so if you tune it for
the center of 20 Meters, it should be close enough for the entire band without
a tuner.

The 40 Meter Hamstick is not so broad. If you want to use it on both SSB and
CW, then you will need a tuner. Without a tuner, it may cover the General
Class portion of SSB, but barely. (The 75 Meter version may not cover the
entire band, even with a tuner!)

Any of the MFJ small tuners should work. However, you would have to transmit
full power (AM, FM or CW mode) to accomplish tuning the way it comes. Look
into the "BET 706 tune control", available from AES for $33, although you may
be able to find construction details on the web. This device lets you generate
a low power signal for use while adjusting your SWR.

I have the Icom AT-180, which works well through 6 Meters. To me it was worth
it not to have to fuss with a manual tuner, but it is a bit pricey. If I was
shopping for one now, I'd look into the recent MFJ auto tuners.

73, Fred, K4DII


Mad Dog October 11th 04 08:05 PM

Thanx for correcting me......if nothing else.

--
KG4LBD

"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
...
You have that backward. The SWR meter only functions on ANT 1 which
is HF/50. It does not function on VHF or UHF.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:00:08 -0400, "Mad Dog" wrote:

I am using a 706 MKIIG in the truck and i would like to use
a HF SWR meter because the transceiver does not have a SWR
function for HF only VHF.
I am building the mobile station 1 piece at a time while acquiring
my General class license and would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz
A SWR meter/antenna tuner that includes 2-meter would simplify
things greatly.
I am presently using a Diamond tri-bander on the VHF side.
I have been switching beween a 20 meter and 40 meter hamstick
while monitoring the HF side and listening to the CW broadcasts nightly.
I have looked at the MFJ lineup and really appreciate a compact unit that
is both durable and rugged because i travel the country in a KW W900L.
The antenna tuner will be used to put the finishing touch on the

hamsticks
and finish tune the tri-bander.
I hope i furnished enough info to base your opinions on and
thanx n advance.





Mad Dog October 11th 04 08:05 PM

Thanx for correcting me......if nothing else.

--
KG4LBD

"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
...
You have that backward. The SWR meter only functions on ANT 1 which
is HF/50. It does not function on VHF or UHF.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:00:08 -0400, "Mad Dog" wrote:

I am using a 706 MKIIG in the truck and i would like to use
a HF SWR meter because the transceiver does not have a SWR
function for HF only VHF.
I am building the mobile station 1 piece at a time while acquiring
my General class license and would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz
A SWR meter/antenna tuner that includes 2-meter would simplify
things greatly.
I am presently using a Diamond tri-bander on the VHF side.
I have been switching beween a 20 meter and 40 meter hamstick
while monitoring the HF side and listening to the CW broadcasts nightly.
I have looked at the MFJ lineup and really appreciate a compact unit that
is both durable and rugged because i travel the country in a KW W900L.
The antenna tuner will be used to put the finishing touch on the

hamsticks
and finish tune the tri-bander.
I hope i furnished enough info to base your opinions on and
thanx n advance.





Mad Dog October 11th 04 08:05 PM

Thanx for correcting me......if nothing else.

--
KG4LBD

"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
...
You have that backward. The SWR meter only functions on ANT 1 which
is HF/50. It does not function on VHF or UHF.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:00:08 -0400, "Mad Dog" wrote:

I am using a 706 MKIIG in the truck and i would like to use
a HF SWR meter because the transceiver does not have a SWR
function for HF only VHF.
I am building the mobile station 1 piece at a time while acquiring
my General class license and would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz
A SWR meter/antenna tuner that includes 2-meter would simplify
things greatly.
I am presently using a Diamond tri-bander on the VHF side.
I have been switching beween a 20 meter and 40 meter hamstick
while monitoring the HF side and listening to the CW broadcasts nightly.
I have looked at the MFJ lineup and really appreciate a compact unit that
is both durable and rugged because i travel the country in a KW W900L.
The antenna tuner will be used to put the finishing touch on the

hamsticks
and finish tune the tri-bander.
I hope i furnished enough info to base your opinions on and
thanx n advance.





Dick October 12th 04 12:03 AM

The point is you don't need an HF SWR meter because you already have
one. That alone should be very instructional. Antenna tuners aren't
very useful for mobile use either. Use an antenna that covers the
area of interest, or use a screwdriver or automatic tuner and whip.
You have enough to do operating mobile without having to fiddle with
an antenna tuner.

Dick - W6CCD



On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:05:16 -0400, "Mad Dog" wrote:

Thanx for correcting me......if nothing else.



Dick October 12th 04 12:03 AM

The point is you don't need an HF SWR meter because you already have
one. That alone should be very instructional. Antenna tuners aren't
very useful for mobile use either. Use an antenna that covers the
area of interest, or use a screwdriver or automatic tuner and whip.
You have enough to do operating mobile without having to fiddle with
an antenna tuner.

Dick - W6CCD



On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:05:16 -0400, "Mad Dog" wrote:

Thanx for correcting me......if nothing else.



Dick October 12th 04 12:03 AM

The point is you don't need an HF SWR meter because you already have
one. That alone should be very instructional. Antenna tuners aren't
very useful for mobile use either. Use an antenna that covers the
area of interest, or use a screwdriver or automatic tuner and whip.
You have enough to do operating mobile without having to fiddle with
an antenna tuner.

Dick - W6CCD



On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 15:05:16 -0400, "Mad Dog" wrote:

Thanx for correcting me......if nothing else.



Bob M. October 12th 04 06:46 AM

"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
...
The point is you don't need an HF SWR meter because you already have
one. That alone should be very instructional. Antenna tuners aren't
very useful for mobile use either. Use an antenna that covers the
area of interest, or use a screwdriver or automatic tuner and whip.
You have enough to do operating mobile without having to fiddle with
an antenna tuner.

Dick - W6CCD



If he gets a screwdriver antenna, he should also get the "ASAC" automatic
screwdriver antenna controller from Am-Com but Am-Com is out of business
now. Good luck finding one. This ASAC controls the antenna motor and does
the hunting for proper SWR while you are driving. I had one hooked up to my
706, worked great. No it is not for sale.



Bob M. October 12th 04 06:46 AM

"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
...
The point is you don't need an HF SWR meter because you already have
one. That alone should be very instructional. Antenna tuners aren't
very useful for mobile use either. Use an antenna that covers the
area of interest, or use a screwdriver or automatic tuner and whip.
You have enough to do operating mobile without having to fiddle with
an antenna tuner.

Dick - W6CCD



If he gets a screwdriver antenna, he should also get the "ASAC" automatic
screwdriver antenna controller from Am-Com but Am-Com is out of business
now. Good luck finding one. This ASAC controls the antenna motor and does
the hunting for proper SWR while you are driving. I had one hooked up to my
706, worked great. No it is not for sale.



Bob M. October 12th 04 06:46 AM

"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
...
The point is you don't need an HF SWR meter because you already have
one. That alone should be very instructional. Antenna tuners aren't
very useful for mobile use either. Use an antenna that covers the
area of interest, or use a screwdriver or automatic tuner and whip.
You have enough to do operating mobile without having to fiddle with
an antenna tuner.

Dick - W6CCD



If he gets a screwdriver antenna, he should also get the "ASAC" automatic
screwdriver antenna controller from Am-Com but Am-Com is out of business
now. Good luck finding one. This ASAC controls the antenna motor and does
the hunting for proper SWR while you are driving. I had one hooked up to my
706, worked great. No it is not for sale.



Dick October 12th 04 02:57 PM

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:46:32 -0600, "Bob M." wrote:

"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
.. .
The point is you don't need an HF SWR meter because you already have
one. That alone should be very instructional. Antenna tuners aren't
very useful for mobile use either. Use an antenna that covers the
area of interest, or use a screwdriver or automatic tuner and whip.
You have enough to do operating mobile without having to fiddle with
an antenna tuner.

Dick - W6CCD



If he gets a screwdriver antenna, he should also get the "ASAC" automatic
screwdriver antenna controller from Am-Com but Am-Com is out of business
now. Good luck finding one. This ASAC controls the antenna motor and does
the hunting for proper SWR while you are driving. I had one hooked up to my
706, worked great. No it is not for sale.


Am-Com may be out of business, but you can still get a screwdriver
automatic controller from
http://www.superantennas.com/___Prod...ontroller.html
Or a manual controller with digital readout is available from MFJ.

Dick - W6CCD


Dick October 12th 04 02:57 PM

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:46:32 -0600, "Bob M." wrote:

"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
.. .
The point is you don't need an HF SWR meter because you already have
one. That alone should be very instructional. Antenna tuners aren't
very useful for mobile use either. Use an antenna that covers the
area of interest, or use a screwdriver or automatic tuner and whip.
You have enough to do operating mobile without having to fiddle with
an antenna tuner.

Dick - W6CCD



If he gets a screwdriver antenna, he should also get the "ASAC" automatic
screwdriver antenna controller from Am-Com but Am-Com is out of business
now. Good luck finding one. This ASAC controls the antenna motor and does
the hunting for proper SWR while you are driving. I had one hooked up to my
706, worked great. No it is not for sale.


Am-Com may be out of business, but you can still get a screwdriver
automatic controller from
http://www.superantennas.com/___Prod...ontroller.html
Or a manual controller with digital readout is available from MFJ.

Dick - W6CCD


Dick October 12th 04 02:57 PM

On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 23:46:32 -0600, "Bob M." wrote:

"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
.. .
The point is you don't need an HF SWR meter because you already have
one. That alone should be very instructional. Antenna tuners aren't
very useful for mobile use either. Use an antenna that covers the
area of interest, or use a screwdriver or automatic tuner and whip.
You have enough to do operating mobile without having to fiddle with
an antenna tuner.

Dick - W6CCD



If he gets a screwdriver antenna, he should also get the "ASAC" automatic
screwdriver antenna controller from Am-Com but Am-Com is out of business
now. Good luck finding one. This ASAC controls the antenna motor and does
the hunting for proper SWR while you are driving. I had one hooked up to my
706, worked great. No it is not for sale.


Am-Com may be out of business, but you can still get a screwdriver
automatic controller from
http://www.superantennas.com/___Prod...ontroller.html
Or a manual controller with digital readout is available from MFJ.

Dick - W6CCD


Twelve VDC October 12th 04 04:44 PM

Subject: SWR meter and tuner for mobile HF


I am using a 706 MKIIG in the truck and i would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz


Why don't you consider the ICOM AH-4 tuner and companion AH-2B mobile whip.
They were designed to work with your rig and have received great reviews. See
he
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1071





Twelve VDC October 12th 04 04:44 PM

Subject: SWR meter and tuner for mobile HF


I am using a 706 MKIIG in the truck and i would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz


Why don't you consider the ICOM AH-4 tuner and companion AH-2B mobile whip.
They were designed to work with your rig and have received great reviews. See
he
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1071





Twelve VDC October 12th 04 04:44 PM

Subject: SWR meter and tuner for mobile HF


I am using a 706 MKIIG in the truck and i would value your opinions on the
most practical SWR meter and antenna tuner for use on 1.8-30Mhz


Why don't you consider the ICOM AH-4 tuner and companion AH-2B mobile whip.
They were designed to work with your rig and have received great reviews. See
he
http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/1071






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