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Ford unfriendly to Hams - help / advice needed.
Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups,
but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. The full details are at http://home.espphotography.com/peninsulaford.html Short version: I had a 2001 Ford Taurus, and the extended service plan (warranty). I volunteer for a Volunteer Fire Department, local OES, and a large Air Ambulance. I'm also a licensed ham (KG6ESP). I had a few two-way radios in my car along with my fire turnout gear. No biggie. With 3 or more people in the car, the car made a loud rattling noise at idle. After a local ford shop looking at it, they stated the car was overweight. I could only get the car weighed with one other person in it, but my car was still over 600 pounds UNDERWEIGHT, and the 2 other people I'd carry weighed nowhere near 600 pounds. After arguing back and forth with the local Ford, they said "Too bad, we won't help you." I sold the Ford, cancelled the warranty I had paid $900 into, and they refunded me less than $500. They prorate the mileage I drove while I had the car. I told them if they claim the warranty was void, they wrongfully took my money. They won't respond. Ford Corporate sent a letter only in my response to my Better Business Bureau complaint, and e-mails and voicemails to Budco Financial (the company I paid the monthly fee for the ESP to) go unanswered. I have Return Receipts as evidence that they are being read by VERY high level people. I want the $420 they wrongfully took from me - if my warranty was void, why did they take it? The local ford dealership inspected my car prior to letting me purchase the ESP, they said nothing about the radios, but then when it came time to fix something, they refused to. Anyone have any ideas? Any agency I can go to or even 'namedrop' to Budco? I'll be making a long list of calls Monday to Budco, and I'd like to have an agency I can reference that has some oversight over Budco to mention. Do you think the Attorney Generals office would have any interest? Would this be a Bureau of Automotive Repairs? And who do I go after? Budco Financial? Ford Corporate? I did sue Peninsula Ford (the ford dealership refusing to do the work) and they simply said "You're suing the wrong people. All your checks are made out to Budco", and the judge agreed. I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
"Evan Platt" wrote in message ... Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. As the car did not come equiped with a ham radio, "F* off" and buy a Toyota the next time. |
"Evan Platt" wrote in message ... Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. As the car did not come equiped with a ham radio, "F* off" and buy a Toyota the next time. |
"Evan Platt" wrote in message ... Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. As the car did not come equiped with a ham radio, "F* off" and buy a Toyota the next time. |
Interesting, they use Ford Crown Vics here in NC for the trooper cars,
just about all leo cars are the same model. Sounds like the heat shield for the catalytic converter could have been loose and vibrating. If the dealer won't work on the car they they failed to honor the warranty. This gets complicated because these warranty companies that cover the repairs are like an insurance company and take the risk for the fixes and take your money up front. I also would go after the dealer first since they are local to you and did not cost you much to do it. Try the local tv stations, they have connections and also have the consumer advocate reporters to help and it costs you nothing. Sometimes a little tv air time can cost the company lost business, a lot more the the money you are out of for the worthless warranty. good luck Evan wrote: Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. The full details are at http://home.espphotography.com/peninsulaford.html |
Interesting, they use Ford Crown Vics here in NC for the trooper cars,
just about all leo cars are the same model. Sounds like the heat shield for the catalytic converter could have been loose and vibrating. If the dealer won't work on the car they they failed to honor the warranty. This gets complicated because these warranty companies that cover the repairs are like an insurance company and take the risk for the fixes and take your money up front. I also would go after the dealer first since they are local to you and did not cost you much to do it. Try the local tv stations, they have connections and also have the consumer advocate reporters to help and it costs you nothing. Sometimes a little tv air time can cost the company lost business, a lot more the the money you are out of for the worthless warranty. good luck Evan wrote: Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. The full details are at http://home.espphotography.com/peninsulaford.html |
Interesting, they use Ford Crown Vics here in NC for the trooper cars,
just about all leo cars are the same model. Sounds like the heat shield for the catalytic converter could have been loose and vibrating. If the dealer won't work on the car they they failed to honor the warranty. This gets complicated because these warranty companies that cover the repairs are like an insurance company and take the risk for the fixes and take your money up front. I also would go after the dealer first since they are local to you and did not cost you much to do it. Try the local tv stations, they have connections and also have the consumer advocate reporters to help and it costs you nothing. Sometimes a little tv air time can cost the company lost business, a lot more the the money you are out of for the worthless warranty. good luck Evan wrote: Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. The full details are at http://home.espphotography.com/peninsulaford.html |
When you sold the car you gave up recorse to the problem.
The car is gone, let it go, bitching time is over, you are out the $$. Overweight is BS, the "clams" at ford were definatly lying to you. They are idiots to tell you that. But, you could have found the rattle yourself with some friends too Not that hard. Radios do nothing to warrenty, Fords have been the choice for Cop cars for a long time. You were screwed by local dealer, go to corperate, keep complaining you could get some $$ back, but you may have to have a lawyer write the letters for you, for Ford to take it seriously, and that will cost over $400. Live and learn. "Evan Platt" wrote in message ... Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. The full details are at http://home.espphotography.com/peninsulaford.html Short version: I had a 2001 Ford Taurus, and the extended service plan (warranty). I volunteer for a Volunteer Fire Department, local OES, and a large Air Ambulance. I'm also a licensed ham (KG6ESP). I had a few two-way radios in my car along with my fire turnout gear. No biggie. With 3 or more people in the car, the car made a loud rattling noise at idle. After a local ford shop looking at it, they stated the car was overweight. I could only get the car weighed with one other person in it, but my car was still over 600 pounds UNDERWEIGHT, and the 2 other people I'd carry weighed nowhere near 600 pounds. After arguing back and forth with the local Ford, they said "Too bad, we won't help you." I sold the Ford, cancelled the warranty I had paid $900 into, and they refunded me less than $500. They prorate the mileage I drove while I had the car. I told them if they claim the warranty was void, they wrongfully took my money. They won't respond. Ford Corporate sent a letter only in my response to my Better Business Bureau complaint, and e-mails and voicemails to Budco Financial (the company I paid the monthly fee for the ESP to) go unanswered. I have Return Receipts as evidence that they are being read by VERY high level people. I want the $420 they wrongfully took from me - if my warranty was void, why did they take it? The local ford dealership inspected my car prior to letting me purchase the ESP, they said nothing about the radios, but then when it came time to fix something, they refused to. Anyone have any ideas? Any agency I can go to or even 'namedrop' to Budco? I'll be making a long list of calls Monday to Budco, and I'd like to have an agency I can reference that has some oversight over Budco to mention. Do you think the Attorney Generals office would have any interest? Would this be a Bureau of Automotive Repairs? And who do I go after? Budco Financial? Ford Corporate? I did sue Peninsula Ford (the ford dealership refusing to do the work) and they simply said "You're suing the wrong people. All your checks are made out to Budco", and the judge agreed. I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
When you sold the car you gave up recorse to the problem.
The car is gone, let it go, bitching time is over, you are out the $$. Overweight is BS, the "clams" at ford were definatly lying to you. They are idiots to tell you that. But, you could have found the rattle yourself with some friends too Not that hard. Radios do nothing to warrenty, Fords have been the choice for Cop cars for a long time. You were screwed by local dealer, go to corperate, keep complaining you could get some $$ back, but you may have to have a lawyer write the letters for you, for Ford to take it seriously, and that will cost over $400. Live and learn. "Evan Platt" wrote in message ... Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. The full details are at http://home.espphotography.com/peninsulaford.html Short version: I had a 2001 Ford Taurus, and the extended service plan (warranty). I volunteer for a Volunteer Fire Department, local OES, and a large Air Ambulance. I'm also a licensed ham (KG6ESP). I had a few two-way radios in my car along with my fire turnout gear. No biggie. With 3 or more people in the car, the car made a loud rattling noise at idle. After a local ford shop looking at it, they stated the car was overweight. I could only get the car weighed with one other person in it, but my car was still over 600 pounds UNDERWEIGHT, and the 2 other people I'd carry weighed nowhere near 600 pounds. After arguing back and forth with the local Ford, they said "Too bad, we won't help you." I sold the Ford, cancelled the warranty I had paid $900 into, and they refunded me less than $500. They prorate the mileage I drove while I had the car. I told them if they claim the warranty was void, they wrongfully took my money. They won't respond. Ford Corporate sent a letter only in my response to my Better Business Bureau complaint, and e-mails and voicemails to Budco Financial (the company I paid the monthly fee for the ESP to) go unanswered. I have Return Receipts as evidence that they are being read by VERY high level people. I want the $420 they wrongfully took from me - if my warranty was void, why did they take it? The local ford dealership inspected my car prior to letting me purchase the ESP, they said nothing about the radios, but then when it came time to fix something, they refused to. Anyone have any ideas? Any agency I can go to or even 'namedrop' to Budco? I'll be making a long list of calls Monday to Budco, and I'd like to have an agency I can reference that has some oversight over Budco to mention. Do you think the Attorney Generals office would have any interest? Would this be a Bureau of Automotive Repairs? And who do I go after? Budco Financial? Ford Corporate? I did sue Peninsula Ford (the ford dealership refusing to do the work) and they simply said "You're suing the wrong people. All your checks are made out to Budco", and the judge agreed. I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
When you sold the car you gave up recorse to the problem.
The car is gone, let it go, bitching time is over, you are out the $$. Overweight is BS, the "clams" at ford were definatly lying to you. They are idiots to tell you that. But, you could have found the rattle yourself with some friends too Not that hard. Radios do nothing to warrenty, Fords have been the choice for Cop cars for a long time. You were screwed by local dealer, go to corperate, keep complaining you could get some $$ back, but you may have to have a lawyer write the letters for you, for Ford to take it seriously, and that will cost over $400. Live and learn. "Evan Platt" wrote in message ... Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. The full details are at http://home.espphotography.com/peninsulaford.html Short version: I had a 2001 Ford Taurus, and the extended service plan (warranty). I volunteer for a Volunteer Fire Department, local OES, and a large Air Ambulance. I'm also a licensed ham (KG6ESP). I had a few two-way radios in my car along with my fire turnout gear. No biggie. With 3 or more people in the car, the car made a loud rattling noise at idle. After a local ford shop looking at it, they stated the car was overweight. I could only get the car weighed with one other person in it, but my car was still over 600 pounds UNDERWEIGHT, and the 2 other people I'd carry weighed nowhere near 600 pounds. After arguing back and forth with the local Ford, they said "Too bad, we won't help you." I sold the Ford, cancelled the warranty I had paid $900 into, and they refunded me less than $500. They prorate the mileage I drove while I had the car. I told them if they claim the warranty was void, they wrongfully took my money. They won't respond. Ford Corporate sent a letter only in my response to my Better Business Bureau complaint, and e-mails and voicemails to Budco Financial (the company I paid the monthly fee for the ESP to) go unanswered. I have Return Receipts as evidence that they are being read by VERY high level people. I want the $420 they wrongfully took from me - if my warranty was void, why did they take it? The local ford dealership inspected my car prior to letting me purchase the ESP, they said nothing about the radios, but then when it came time to fix something, they refused to. Anyone have any ideas? Any agency I can go to or even 'namedrop' to Budco? I'll be making a long list of calls Monday to Budco, and I'd like to have an agency I can reference that has some oversight over Budco to mention. Do you think the Attorney Generals office would have any interest? Would this be a Bureau of Automotive Repairs? And who do I go after? Budco Financial? Ford Corporate? I did sue Peninsula Ford (the ford dealership refusing to do the work) and they simply said "You're suing the wrong people. All your checks are made out to Budco", and the judge agreed. I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:23:31 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote: As the car did not come equiped with a ham radio, "F* off" and buy a Toyota the next time. I bought a Honda. But what does that have to do with anything? They had no problems taking my money, but when it came down to honoring it, they claimed the warranty was void. Sorry if reading is not one of your strong skills. -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:23:31 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote: As the car did not come equiped with a ham radio, "F* off" and buy a Toyota the next time. I bought a Honda. But what does that have to do with anything? They had no problems taking my money, but when it came down to honoring it, they claimed the warranty was void. Sorry if reading is not one of your strong skills. -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:23:31 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote: As the car did not come equiped with a ham radio, "F* off" and buy a Toyota the next time. I bought a Honda. But what does that have to do with anything? They had no problems taking my money, but when it came down to honoring it, they claimed the warranty was void. Sorry if reading is not one of your strong skills. -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
"USE FA"
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:09:22 -0700, Evan Platt wrote: Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. The full details are at http://home.espphotography.com/peninsulaford.html Short version: I had a 2001 Ford Taurus, and the extended service plan (warranty). I volunteer for a Volunteer Fire Department, local OES, and a large Air Ambulance. I'm also a licensed ham (KG6ESP). I had a few two-way radios in my car along with my fire turnout gear. No biggie. With 3 or more people in the car, the car made a loud rattling noise at idle. After a local ford shop looking at it, they stated the car was overweight. I could only get the car weighed with one other person in it, but my car was still over 600 pounds UNDERWEIGHT, and the 2 other people I'd carry weighed nowhere near 600 pounds. After arguing back and forth with the local Ford, they said "Too bad, we won't help you." I sold the Ford, cancelled the warranty I had paid $900 into, and they refunded me less than $500. They prorate the mileage I drove while I had the car. I told them if they claim the warranty was void, they wrongfully took my money. They won't respond. Ford Corporate sent a letter only in my response to my Better Business Bureau complaint, and e-mails and voicemails to Budco Financial (the company I paid the monthly fee for the ESP to) go unanswered. I have Return Receipts as evidence that they are being read by VERY high level people. I want the $420 they wrongfully took from me - if my warranty was void, why did they take it? The local ford dealership inspected my car prior to letting me purchase the ESP, they said nothing about the radios, but then when it came time to fix something, they refused to. Anyone have any ideas? Any agency I can go to or even 'namedrop' to Budco? I'll be making a long list of calls Monday to Budco, and I'd like to have an agency I can reference that has some oversight over Budco to mention. Do you think the Attorney Generals office would have any interest? Would this be a Bureau of Automotive Repairs? And who do I go after? Budco Financial? Ford Corporate? I did sue Peninsula Ford (the ford dealership refusing to do the work) and they simply said "You're suing the wrong people. All your checks are made out to Budco", and the judge agreed. I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan |
"USE FA"
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:09:22 -0700, Evan Platt wrote: Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. The full details are at http://home.espphotography.com/peninsulaford.html Short version: I had a 2001 Ford Taurus, and the extended service plan (warranty). I volunteer for a Volunteer Fire Department, local OES, and a large Air Ambulance. I'm also a licensed ham (KG6ESP). I had a few two-way radios in my car along with my fire turnout gear. No biggie. With 3 or more people in the car, the car made a loud rattling noise at idle. After a local ford shop looking at it, they stated the car was overweight. I could only get the car weighed with one other person in it, but my car was still over 600 pounds UNDERWEIGHT, and the 2 other people I'd carry weighed nowhere near 600 pounds. After arguing back and forth with the local Ford, they said "Too bad, we won't help you." I sold the Ford, cancelled the warranty I had paid $900 into, and they refunded me less than $500. They prorate the mileage I drove while I had the car. I told them if they claim the warranty was void, they wrongfully took my money. They won't respond. Ford Corporate sent a letter only in my response to my Better Business Bureau complaint, and e-mails and voicemails to Budco Financial (the company I paid the monthly fee for the ESP to) go unanswered. I have Return Receipts as evidence that they are being read by VERY high level people. I want the $420 they wrongfully took from me - if my warranty was void, why did they take it? The local ford dealership inspected my car prior to letting me purchase the ESP, they said nothing about the radios, but then when it came time to fix something, they refused to. Anyone have any ideas? Any agency I can go to or even 'namedrop' to Budco? I'll be making a long list of calls Monday to Budco, and I'd like to have an agency I can reference that has some oversight over Budco to mention. Do you think the Attorney Generals office would have any interest? Would this be a Bureau of Automotive Repairs? And who do I go after? Budco Financial? Ford Corporate? I did sue Peninsula Ford (the ford dealership refusing to do the work) and they simply said "You're suing the wrong people. All your checks are made out to Budco", and the judge agreed. I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan |
"USE FA"
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:09:22 -0700, Evan Platt wrote: Well, I've gone over this story a dozen times to numerous auto groups, but the attitude there seems to be "F* off", so I'm hoping people here would be more friendly. The full details are at http://home.espphotography.com/peninsulaford.html Short version: I had a 2001 Ford Taurus, and the extended service plan (warranty). I volunteer for a Volunteer Fire Department, local OES, and a large Air Ambulance. I'm also a licensed ham (KG6ESP). I had a few two-way radios in my car along with my fire turnout gear. No biggie. With 3 or more people in the car, the car made a loud rattling noise at idle. After a local ford shop looking at it, they stated the car was overweight. I could only get the car weighed with one other person in it, but my car was still over 600 pounds UNDERWEIGHT, and the 2 other people I'd carry weighed nowhere near 600 pounds. After arguing back and forth with the local Ford, they said "Too bad, we won't help you." I sold the Ford, cancelled the warranty I had paid $900 into, and they refunded me less than $500. They prorate the mileage I drove while I had the car. I told them if they claim the warranty was void, they wrongfully took my money. They won't respond. Ford Corporate sent a letter only in my response to my Better Business Bureau complaint, and e-mails and voicemails to Budco Financial (the company I paid the monthly fee for the ESP to) go unanswered. I have Return Receipts as evidence that they are being read by VERY high level people. I want the $420 they wrongfully took from me - if my warranty was void, why did they take it? The local ford dealership inspected my car prior to letting me purchase the ESP, they said nothing about the radios, but then when it came time to fix something, they refused to. Anyone have any ideas? Any agency I can go to or even 'namedrop' to Budco? I'll be making a long list of calls Monday to Budco, and I'd like to have an agency I can reference that has some oversight over Budco to mention. Do you think the Attorney Generals office would have any interest? Would this be a Bureau of Automotive Repairs? And who do I go after? Budco Financial? Ford Corporate? I did sue Peninsula Ford (the ford dealership refusing to do the work) and they simply said "You're suing the wrong people. All your checks are made out to Budco", and the judge agreed. I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan |
"The Enforcer" wrote in message ... "USE FA" Ummmm.... why? The post has nothing to do with an auction, or even a sale. It was asking for help with an issue. |
"The Enforcer" wrote in message ... "USE FA" Ummmm.... why? The post has nothing to do with an auction, or even a sale. It was asking for help with an issue. |
"The Enforcer" wrote in message ... "USE FA" Ummmm.... why? The post has nothing to do with an auction, or even a sale. It was asking for help with an issue. |
The Enforcer wrote:
"USE FA" Eat ****. |
The Enforcer wrote:
"USE FA" Eat ****. |
The Enforcer wrote:
"USE FA" Eat ****. |
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:23:31 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote: As the car did not come equiped with a ham radio, "F* off" and buy a Toyota the next time. Oh, and what does Toyota have to do with ANYTHING? Do Toyota's now come with Ham radios installed? -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:23:31 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote: As the car did not come equiped with a ham radio, "F* off" and buy a Toyota the next time. Oh, and what does Toyota have to do with ANYTHING? Do Toyota's now come with Ham radios installed? -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 20:23:31 GMT, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote: As the car did not come equiped with a ham radio, "F* off" and buy a Toyota the next time. Oh, and what does Toyota have to do with ANYTHING? Do Toyota's now come with Ham radios installed? -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:11:38 -0500, "s6sej73w9"
wrote: When you sold the car you gave up recorse to the problem. I wasn't going to keep a car that rattled the way this one did. The car is gone, let it go, bitching time is over, you are out the $$. I'm not going to give up $420+ that easy, sorry. Overweight is BS, the "clams" at ford were definatly lying to you. They are idiots to tell you that. Agreed. 100%. But, you could have found the rattle yourself with some friends too Not that hard. I did have a few friends look at it - they found the source (can't recall exactly what it was) but it was something that would involve quite a bit of labor to fix. Radios do nothing to warrenty, Fords have been the choice for Cop cars for a long time. Well, remember - when a police agency buys a car, they pay more for the car and warranty. You were screwed by local dealer, go to corperate, keep complaining you could get some $$ back, but you may have to have a lawyer write the letters for you, for Ford to take it seriously, and that will cost over $400. Live and learn. I have gone to Ford Corporate. Useless. I'm now going to the Bureau of Automotive Repairs. Next will be 7 on your side. -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:11:38 -0500, "s6sej73w9"
wrote: When you sold the car you gave up recorse to the problem. I wasn't going to keep a car that rattled the way this one did. The car is gone, let it go, bitching time is over, you are out the $$. I'm not going to give up $420+ that easy, sorry. Overweight is BS, the "clams" at ford were definatly lying to you. They are idiots to tell you that. Agreed. 100%. But, you could have found the rattle yourself with some friends too Not that hard. I did have a few friends look at it - they found the source (can't recall exactly what it was) but it was something that would involve quite a bit of labor to fix. Radios do nothing to warrenty, Fords have been the choice for Cop cars for a long time. Well, remember - when a police agency buys a car, they pay more for the car and warranty. You were screwed by local dealer, go to corperate, keep complaining you could get some $$ back, but you may have to have a lawyer write the letters for you, for Ford to take it seriously, and that will cost over $400. Live and learn. I have gone to Ford Corporate. Useless. I'm now going to the Bureau of Automotive Repairs. Next will be 7 on your side. -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 22:11:38 -0500, "s6sej73w9"
wrote: When you sold the car you gave up recorse to the problem. I wasn't going to keep a car that rattled the way this one did. The car is gone, let it go, bitching time is over, you are out the $$. I'm not going to give up $420+ that easy, sorry. Overweight is BS, the "clams" at ford were definatly lying to you. They are idiots to tell you that. Agreed. 100%. But, you could have found the rattle yourself with some friends too Not that hard. I did have a few friends look at it - they found the source (can't recall exactly what it was) but it was something that would involve quite a bit of labor to fix. Radios do nothing to warrenty, Fords have been the choice for Cop cars for a long time. Well, remember - when a police agency buys a car, they pay more for the car and warranty. You were screwed by local dealer, go to corperate, keep complaining you could get some $$ back, but you may have to have a lawyer write the letters for you, for Ford to take it seriously, and that will cost over $400. Live and learn. I have gone to Ford Corporate. Useless. I'm now going to the Bureau of Automotive Repairs. Next will be 7 on your side. -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:22:24 +0900, "Brenda Ann Dyer"
wrote: Ummmm.... why? The post has nothing to do with an auction, or even a sale. It was asking for help with an issue. I'm guessing "The Enforcer" is referring to the fact that when 1d10ts post eBay auction links to some of the other rec.radio. groups and use For Sale (when the FAQ states to use FA or For Auction), I reply telling the person to use FA or For Auction. Not sure what that has to do with this, just a clueless poster I guess. -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:22:24 +0900, "Brenda Ann Dyer"
wrote: Ummmm.... why? The post has nothing to do with an auction, or even a sale. It was asking for help with an issue. I'm guessing "The Enforcer" is referring to the fact that when 1d10ts post eBay auction links to some of the other rec.radio. groups and use For Sale (when the FAQ states to use FA or For Auction), I reply telling the person to use FA or For Auction. Not sure what that has to do with this, just a clueless poster I guess. -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 21:22:24 +0900, "Brenda Ann Dyer"
wrote: Ummmm.... why? The post has nothing to do with an auction, or even a sale. It was asking for help with an issue. I'm guessing "The Enforcer" is referring to the fact that when 1d10ts post eBay auction links to some of the other rec.radio. groups and use For Sale (when the FAQ states to use FA or For Auction), I reply telling the person to use FA or For Auction. Not sure what that has to do with this, just a clueless poster I guess. -- To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address. |
"Evan Platt" wrote in message ... I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan I experienced a similar issue with my new 2002 Subaru Outback. I'm a volunteer FF and as soon as Subaru fould out about it via the dealer service records they claimed that my Subaru was in "Police/Fire/Public Safety" service and revoked my extended warranty plan, and attached a statement to my VIN record station that because I had installed "VHF/UHF transmitting equipment" in my Subaru, all of my vehicle electronics were no longer covered inder warranty. Nedless to say, I sold the Subaru for a Dodge Ram and have had no problems with GM. SUBARU CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE TWO-FACED LYING S.O.B's WHO ACT LIKE THEIR CAR PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST THING ON EARTH. PHOOEY ON THEM AND THEIR LYING CAR AD'S ON TV !! TO HELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CRAP LL BEAN OUTBACK THAT I OWNED. I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN AND IF YOUR A HAM AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING A SUBARU....DON'T DO IT!!! THEY ( MEANING BOTH THE DEALER AND THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE) WILL SCREW YOU OVER 2 WAYS INTO NEXT WEEK ! DON'T BUY SUBARU. THEY LIE AND THEY BUILD GARBAGE. |
"Evan Platt" wrote in message ... I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan I experienced a similar issue with my new 2002 Subaru Outback. I'm a volunteer FF and as soon as Subaru fould out about it via the dealer service records they claimed that my Subaru was in "Police/Fire/Public Safety" service and revoked my extended warranty plan, and attached a statement to my VIN record station that because I had installed "VHF/UHF transmitting equipment" in my Subaru, all of my vehicle electronics were no longer covered inder warranty. Nedless to say, I sold the Subaru for a Dodge Ram and have had no problems with GM. SUBARU CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE TWO-FACED LYING S.O.B's WHO ACT LIKE THEIR CAR PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST THING ON EARTH. PHOOEY ON THEM AND THEIR LYING CAR AD'S ON TV !! TO HELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CRAP LL BEAN OUTBACK THAT I OWNED. I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN AND IF YOUR A HAM AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING A SUBARU....DON'T DO IT!!! THEY ( MEANING BOTH THE DEALER AND THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE) WILL SCREW YOU OVER 2 WAYS INTO NEXT WEEK ! DON'T BUY SUBARU. THEY LIE AND THEY BUILD GARBAGE. |
"Evan Platt" wrote in message ... I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan I experienced a similar issue with my new 2002 Subaru Outback. I'm a volunteer FF and as soon as Subaru fould out about it via the dealer service records they claimed that my Subaru was in "Police/Fire/Public Safety" service and revoked my extended warranty plan, and attached a statement to my VIN record station that because I had installed "VHF/UHF transmitting equipment" in my Subaru, all of my vehicle electronics were no longer covered inder warranty. Nedless to say, I sold the Subaru for a Dodge Ram and have had no problems with GM. SUBARU CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE TWO-FACED LYING S.O.B's WHO ACT LIKE THEIR CAR PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST THING ON EARTH. PHOOEY ON THEM AND THEIR LYING CAR AD'S ON TV !! TO HELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CRAP LL BEAN OUTBACK THAT I OWNED. I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN AND IF YOUR A HAM AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING A SUBARU....DON'T DO IT!!! THEY ( MEANING BOTH THE DEALER AND THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE) WILL SCREW YOU OVER 2 WAYS INTO NEXT WEEK ! DON'T BUY SUBARU. THEY LIE AND THEY BUILD GARBAGE. |
Yes Mike I tend to agree with you about Subaru, I got very well burned on a
bad transmission from them in a "SUB" wagon I had. I was just using it to go back and forth to work with. 73 I experienced a similar issue with my new 2002 Subaru Outback. I'm a volunteer FF and as soon as Subaru fould out about it via the dealer service records they claimed that my Subaru was in "Police/Fire/Public Safety" service and revoked my extended warranty plan, and attached a statement to my VIN record station that because I had installed "VHF/UHF transmitting equipment" in my Subaru, all of my vehicle electronics were no longer covered inder warranty. Nedless to say, I sold the Subaru for a Dodge Ram and have had no problems with GM. SUBARU CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE TWO-FACED LYING S.O.B's WHO ACT LIKE THEIR CAR PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST THING ON EARTH. PHOOEY ON THEM AND THEIR LYING CAR AD'S ON TV !! TO HELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CRAP LL BEAN OUTBACK THAT I OWNED. I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN AND IF YOUR A HAM AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING A SUBARU....DON'T DO IT!!! THEY ( MEANING BOTH THE DEALER AND THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE) WILL SCREW YOU OVER 2 WAYS INTO NEXT WEEK ! DON'T BUY SUBARU. THEY LIE AND THEY BUILD GARBAGE. |
Yes Mike I tend to agree with you about Subaru, I got very well burned on a
bad transmission from them in a "SUB" wagon I had. I was just using it to go back and forth to work with. 73 I experienced a similar issue with my new 2002 Subaru Outback. I'm a volunteer FF and as soon as Subaru fould out about it via the dealer service records they claimed that my Subaru was in "Police/Fire/Public Safety" service and revoked my extended warranty plan, and attached a statement to my VIN record station that because I had installed "VHF/UHF transmitting equipment" in my Subaru, all of my vehicle electronics were no longer covered inder warranty. Nedless to say, I sold the Subaru for a Dodge Ram and have had no problems with GM. SUBARU CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE TWO-FACED LYING S.O.B's WHO ACT LIKE THEIR CAR PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST THING ON EARTH. PHOOEY ON THEM AND THEIR LYING CAR AD'S ON TV !! TO HELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CRAP LL BEAN OUTBACK THAT I OWNED. I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN AND IF YOUR A HAM AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING A SUBARU....DON'T DO IT!!! THEY ( MEANING BOTH THE DEALER AND THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE) WILL SCREW YOU OVER 2 WAYS INTO NEXT WEEK ! DON'T BUY SUBARU. THEY LIE AND THEY BUILD GARBAGE. |
Yes Mike I tend to agree with you about Subaru, I got very well burned on a
bad transmission from them in a "SUB" wagon I had. I was just using it to go back and forth to work with. 73 I experienced a similar issue with my new 2002 Subaru Outback. I'm a volunteer FF and as soon as Subaru fould out about it via the dealer service records they claimed that my Subaru was in "Police/Fire/Public Safety" service and revoked my extended warranty plan, and attached a statement to my VIN record station that because I had installed "VHF/UHF transmitting equipment" in my Subaru, all of my vehicle electronics were no longer covered inder warranty. Nedless to say, I sold the Subaru for a Dodge Ram and have had no problems with GM. SUBARU CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE TWO-FACED LYING S.O.B's WHO ACT LIKE THEIR CAR PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST THING ON EARTH. PHOOEY ON THEM AND THEIR LYING CAR AD'S ON TV !! TO HELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CRAP LL BEAN OUTBACK THAT I OWNED. I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN AND IF YOUR A HAM AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING A SUBARU....DON'T DO IT!!! THEY ( MEANING BOTH THE DEALER AND THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE) WILL SCREW YOU OVER 2 WAYS INTO NEXT WEEK ! DON'T BUY SUBARU. THEY LIE AND THEY BUILD GARBAGE. |
Got kind of dumb question? Prior to the starting your rant (all caps) you
stated you had got rid of the Subaru and bought a dodge ram and have had not problems with GM. When did gm start making dodges? "Mike 4Tools" wrote in message roups.com... "Evan Platt" wrote in message ... I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan I experienced a similar issue with my new 2002 Subaru Outback. I'm a volunteer FF and as soon as Subaru fould out about it via the dealer service records they claimed that my Subaru was in "Police/Fire/Public Safety" service and revoked my extended warranty plan, and attached a statement to my VIN record station that because I had installed "VHF/UHF transmitting equipment" in my Subaru, all of my vehicle electronics were no longer covered inder warranty. Nedless to say, I sold the Subaru for a Dodge Ram and have had no problems with GM. SUBARU CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE TWO-FACED LYING S.O.B's WHO ACT LIKE THEIR CAR PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST THING ON EARTH. PHOOEY ON THEM AND THEIR LYING CAR AD'S ON TV !! TO HELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CRAP LL BEAN OUTBACK THAT I OWNED. I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN AND IF YOUR A HAM AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING A SUBARU....DON'T DO IT!!! THEY ( MEANING BOTH THE DEALER AND THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE) WILL SCREW YOU OVER 2 WAYS INTO NEXT WEEK ! DON'T BUY SUBARU. THEY LIE AND THEY BUILD GARBAGE. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004 |
Got kind of dumb question? Prior to the starting your rant (all caps) you
stated you had got rid of the Subaru and bought a dodge ram and have had not problems with GM. When did gm start making dodges? "Mike 4Tools" wrote in message roups.com... "Evan Platt" wrote in message ... I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan I experienced a similar issue with my new 2002 Subaru Outback. I'm a volunteer FF and as soon as Subaru fould out about it via the dealer service records they claimed that my Subaru was in "Police/Fire/Public Safety" service and revoked my extended warranty plan, and attached a statement to my VIN record station that because I had installed "VHF/UHF transmitting equipment" in my Subaru, all of my vehicle electronics were no longer covered inder warranty. Nedless to say, I sold the Subaru for a Dodge Ram and have had no problems with GM. SUBARU CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE TWO-FACED LYING S.O.B's WHO ACT LIKE THEIR CAR PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST THING ON EARTH. PHOOEY ON THEM AND THEIR LYING CAR AD'S ON TV !! TO HELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CRAP LL BEAN OUTBACK THAT I OWNED. I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN AND IF YOUR A HAM AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING A SUBARU....DON'T DO IT!!! THEY ( MEANING BOTH THE DEALER AND THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE) WILL SCREW YOU OVER 2 WAYS INTO NEXT WEEK ! DON'T BUY SUBARU. THEY LIE AND THEY BUILD GARBAGE. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004 |
Got kind of dumb question? Prior to the starting your rant (all caps) you
stated you had got rid of the Subaru and bought a dodge ram and have had not problems with GM. When did gm start making dodges? "Mike 4Tools" wrote in message roups.com... "Evan Platt" wrote in message ... I'm not a ARRL member, but if the ARRL would help out, I'd gladly join. This is $420 of MY MONEY I consider Ford and Budco have stolen. Needless to say, I will NEVER own another Ford in my lifetime. Thanks. Evan I experienced a similar issue with my new 2002 Subaru Outback. I'm a volunteer FF and as soon as Subaru fould out about it via the dealer service records they claimed that my Subaru was in "Police/Fire/Public Safety" service and revoked my extended warranty plan, and attached a statement to my VIN record station that because I had installed "VHF/UHF transmitting equipment" in my Subaru, all of my vehicle electronics were no longer covered inder warranty. Nedless to say, I sold the Subaru for a Dodge Ram and have had no problems with GM. SUBARU CUSTOMER SERVICE ARE TWO-FACED LYING S.O.B's WHO ACT LIKE THEIR CAR PRODUCTS ARE THE BEST THING ON EARTH. PHOOEY ON THEM AND THEIR LYING CAR AD'S ON TV !! TO HELL WITH THEM AND THEIR CRAP LL BEAN OUTBACK THAT I OWNED. I WILL NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH THEM AGAIN AND IF YOUR A HAM AND ARE CONSIDERING BUYING A SUBARU....DON'T DO IT!!! THEY ( MEANING BOTH THE DEALER AND THEIR CORPORATE OFFICE) WILL SCREW YOU OVER 2 WAYS INTO NEXT WEEK ! DON'T BUY SUBARU. THEY LIE AND THEY BUILD GARBAGE. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.775 / Virus Database: 522 - Release Date: 10/8/2004 |
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