On Tue, 1 Dec 2015, Ralph Mowery wrote:


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After the WWII, MacArthur (sp??) and Co were in there getting the place
back up & running. Some specialist people from America were brought over
to give advice to manufacturers and with their help and guidance things
got moving again.
The results were not bad at first but the industry went about learning
what it was doing wrong and correcting itself through self-monitoring
and awareness and corretions.
They learned and adjusted to become a world beating source of high end
products.
Meanwhile back in Europe and America the same methods that were helping
Japan improve were largely ignored until it became obvious that Japan
was actually passing them by.


I thought it was when Japan ran out of all the low quality American beer
cans the quality improved.

I remember taking a tour of a local TV station around 1970. They mentioned
having a few cameras made in Japan that were beter than the American
cameras. They said as soon as they could they would replace all of them
with the ones from Japan.

I was thinking that in the eairly computer days Japan was selling memory
chips at a loss to put the American companies out of business. Looks like
China may be doing it now to Japan. I have had several of the HTs from
China and they seem to work as well as any of the Icom andYeasues I have had
in the past. Now I can get a whole HT cheeper than the replacement
batteries for the other HTs.



I had thought about one of those Chinese walkie talkies.

But then I was at a garage sale in June, and someone had an Icom 02-at(?)
for sixty dollars, and I grabbed it. Yes it's old and heavy, but I suspect
I am getting more for the money. I remember when those came out, I guess
it was a Tempo first, with the BCD switches to change channels, this being
a later variant with a pad and LCD display. Oddly, despite being licensed
since 1972, this was my first 2M walkie talkie. I never had enough
interest to spend the money, though I had a chance circa 1980 to get one
of those Tempo ones relatively cheap, AED Electronics had bought one to
create a scanner for it, and then it was surplus.

Michael

"Michael Black" wrote in message
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But then I was at a garage sale in June, and someone had an Icom 02-at(?)
for sixty dollars, and I grabbed it. Yes it's old and heavy, but I suspect
I am getting more for the money. I remember when those came out, I guess
it was a Tempo first, with the BCD switches to change channels, this being
a later variant with a pad and LCD display. Oddly, despite being licensed
since 1972, this was my first 2M walkie talkie. I never had enough
interest to spend the money, though I had a chance circa 1980 to get one
of those Tempo ones relatively cheap, AED Electronics had bought one to
create a scanner for it, and then it was surplus.


I was licensed about the same time. My first Ht was and Icom with the thumb
switches on the top. The others were the Yaesus. I did not have the Icom 02
so can not compair to that one.

Not sure how long the battery will last on the HT you bought, but the China
HT can be bought for what a new battery will cost. The China is dual band,
has slightly more power, over 100 memories, does 144 and 440 bands plus much
out of band coverage if you want, has an FM broadcast receiver, battery last
longer.
If you do have problems with the $ 30 China unit, toss it and get another.
I know about a dozen that have had them and no problems.

On 02/12/15 04:20, Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Michael Black" wrote in message
news:alpine.LNX.2.02.1512012027250.10269@darkstar. example.org...
But then I was at a garage sale in June, and someone had an Icom 02-at(?)
for sixty dollars, and I grabbed it. Yes it's old and heavy, but I suspect
I am getting more for the money. I remember when those came out, I guess
it was a Tempo first, with the BCD switches to change channels, this being
a later variant with a pad and LCD display. Oddly, despite being licensed
since 1972, this was my first 2M walkie talkie. I never had enough
interest to spend the money, though I had a chance circa 1980 to get one
of those Tempo ones relatively cheap, AED Electronics had bought one to
create a scanner for it, and then it was surplus.


I was licensed about the same time. My first Ht was and Icom with the thumb
switches on the top. The others were the Yaesus. I did not have the Icom 02
so can not compair to that one.

That range of Icoms used removable battery packs which had the
advantage that they screwed together and could be refilled with new
cells. The pack also has a small constant current and simple 'trickle'
charger built into the pack. I've got a couple of 25 year old IC32Es
which I have several BP8 (?) packs for which were ex-PMR and I've
refilled with new cells (NiMH) and adapted the charger accordingly.

The 32E is a bit of a 'brick' but does what is needed.

I've several of the Chinese radios (we've 5 licensees in the family) and
they are certainly good value.

73
Brian
G8OSN/W8OSN



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On 02/12/2015 09:59, Brian Reay wrote:

I've several of the Chinese radios (we've 5 licensees in the family)
and they are certainly good value.

Five cb'ers. There's not a real amateur in the family.


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On 02/12/2015 13:39, Fred Roberts wrote:
On 02/12/2015 09:59, Brian Reay wrote:

I've several of the Chinese radios (we've 5 licensees in the family)
and they are certainly good value.

Five cb'ers. There's not a real amateur in the family.


shocking ...fakes...they don't even mention their hobby being amateur
radio on their facebook pages ....

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"Fred Roberts" wrote in message
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On 02/12/2015 09:59, Brian Reay wrote:

I've several of the Chinese radios (we've 5 licensees in the family)
and they are certainly good value.

Five cb'ers. There's not a real amateur in the family.


Usual M3OSN confabulation as one is known to have let the licence lapse.

On 02/12/2015 13:41, gareth wrote:
"Fred Roberts" wrote in message
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On 02/12/2015 09:59, Brian Reay wrote:

I've several of the Chinese radios (we've 5 licensees in the family)
and they are certainly good value.

Five cb'ers. There's not a real amateur in the family.


Usual M3OSN confabulation as one is known to have let the licence lapse.


and brian runs things for them as they only did it to keep him happy and
get the odd pound so he can take pictures of them holding things ....
.....qrz etc

http://www.qrz.com/db/M3OSN

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Man at Oxfam
All things DIGITAL do not work
No spare wheel isn't progress
Class A radio hams do exist
A rubber cam belt is not acceptable
I never asked to join the Freemasons