In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Ralph Mowery wrote:

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Despite its high price and snazzy interface, does it provide any more
useful information then the tried-and-trusted (transistorised!) GDO?

That depends on whether or not you have the skills to utilize the
information such devices provide.


Most of the hams I have seen with the MFJ do not have the skills to really
use it and a simple swr meter would do just as well or beter for them.

That's a sad comment and contrary to my experience, though most of the
hams I know are also engineers or technicians in real life.


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Jim Pennino

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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Ralph Mowery
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Despite its high price and snazzy interface, does it provide any more
useful information then the tried-and-trusted (transistorised!) GDO?

That depends on whether or not you have the skills to utilize the
information such devices provide.


Most of the hams I have seen with the MFJ do not have the skills to
really
use it and a simple swr meter would do just as well or beter for them.

That's a sad comment and contrary to my experience, though most of the
hams I know are also engineers or technicians in real life.

professionals should take up another hobby ......

In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Ralph Mowery
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Despite its high price and snazzy interface, does it provide any more
useful information then the tried-and-trusted (transistorised!) GDO?

That depends on whether or not you have the skills to utilize the
information such devices provide.


Most of the hams I have seen with the MFJ do not have the skills to
really
use it and a simple swr meter would do just as well or beter for them.

That's a sad comment and contrary to my experience, though most of the
hams I know are also engineers or technicians in real life.

professionals should take up another hobby ......

Why?



--
Jim Pennino

On 26/12/2015 22:41, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Ralph Mowery
wrote:

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Despite its high price and snazzy interface, does it provide any more
useful information then the tried-and-trusted (transistorised!) GDO?

That depends on whether or not you have the skills to utilize the
information such devices provide.


Most of the hams I have seen with the MFJ do not have the skills to
really
use it and a simple swr meter would do just as well or beter for them.

That's a sad comment and contrary to my experience, though most of the
hams I know are also engineers or technicians in real life.

professionals should take up another hobby ......

Why?



because they are a pain in the arse trying to lord it over
non-professionals trying to enjoy their hobby ...

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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/12/2015 22:41, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Ralph Mowery
wrote:

wrote in message
...
Despite its high price and snazzy interface, does it provide any more
useful information then the tried-and-trusted (transistorised!) GDO?

That depends on whether or not you have the skills to utilize the
information such devices provide.


Most of the hams I have seen with the MFJ do not have the skills to
really
use it and a simple swr meter would do just as well or beter for them.

That's a sad comment and contrary to my experience, though most of the
hams I know are also engineers or technicians in real life.

professionals should take up another hobby ......

Why?



because they are a pain in the arse trying to lord it over
non-professionals trying to enjoy their hobby ...

You mean like when they disparage old wives tales that have been passed
down from the days of spark but contradict the laws of physics?



--
Jim Pennino

On 26/12/2015 23:25, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/12/2015 22:41, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Ralph Mowery
wrote:

wrote in message
...
Despite its high price and snazzy interface, does it provide any more
useful information then the tried-and-trusted (transistorised!) GDO?

That depends on whether or not you have the skills to utilize the
information such devices provide.


Most of the hams I have seen with the MFJ do not have the skills to
really
use it and a simple swr meter would do just as well or beter for them.

That's a sad comment and contrary to my experience, though most of the
hams I know are also engineers or technicians in real life.

professionals should take up another hobby ......

Why?



because they are a pain in the arse trying to lord it over
non-professionals trying to enjoy their hobby ...

You mean like when they disparage old wives tales that have been passed
down from the days of spark but contradict the laws of physics?



yes...and boy do they love to make you feel small....

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No spare wheel isn't progress
The latest model is not always the best
A rubber cam belt is not acceptable
Cheat your way through life, join the Freemasons
DIGITAL just doesn't work

On 27/12/15 06:21, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/12/2015 23:25, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ...
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On 26/12/2015 22:41, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ...
wrote:

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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Ralph Mowery

wrote:

wrote in message
...
Despite its high price and snazzy interface, does it provide
any more
useful information then the tried-and-trusted (transistorised!)
GDO?

That depends on whether or not you have the skills to utilize the
information such devices provide.


Most of the hams I have seen with the MFJ do not have the skills to
really
use it and a simple swr meter would do just as well or beter for
them.

That's a sad comment and contrary to my experience, though most of
the
hams I know are also engineers or technicians in real life.

professionals should take up another hobby ......

Why?



because they are a pain in the arse trying to lord it over
non-professionals trying to enjoy their hobby ...

You mean like when they disparage old wives tales that have been passed
down from the days of spark but contradict the laws of physics?



yes...and boy do they love to make you feel small....



You are simply blaming others for your own lack of knowledge, hardwork,
and self-esteem. Take some responsibility for your life.



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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/12/2015 23:25, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:
On 26/12/2015 22:41, wrote:
In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

wrote in message
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In rec.radio.amateur.antenna Ralph Mowery
wrote:

wrote in message
...
Despite its high price and snazzy interface, does it provide any more
useful information then the tried-and-trusted (transistorised!) GDO?

That depends on whether or not you have the skills to utilize the
information such devices provide.


Most of the hams I have seen with the MFJ do not have the skills to
really
use it and a simple swr meter would do just as well or beter for them.

That's a sad comment and contrary to my experience, though most of the
hams I know are also engineers or technicians in real life.

professionals should take up another hobby ......

Why?



because they are a pain in the arse trying to lord it over
non-professionals trying to enjoy their hobby ...

You mean like when they disparage old wives tales that have been passed
down from the days of spark but contradict the laws of physics?



yes...and boy do they love to make you feel small....


Sounds like sour grapes to me.

Most hams I know are eager to learn new things.


--
Jim Pennino

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Most of the hams I have seen with the MFJ do not have the skills to
really
use it and a simple swr meter would do just as well or beter for them.

That's a sad comment and contrary to my experience, though most of the
hams I know are also engineers or technicians in real life.


Our local club has about 55 members. About 1/4 of them never show up and I
am not even sure why they are on the roster,but they do pay the dues every
year. About 5 are XYLs and dubt any of them have any technical skills.
There are 2 or 3 that are or have been involved with broadcast radio or TV.
One that was a 2 way man at the highway patrol. One or two that had
electrical or electronic education in college that were not into RF work.
There were a couple of more that had some other college education such as a
doctor or business.

Overall, out of 55 people maybe 2 or 3 could actually use the analizer to do
something that a simple SWR meter would not do, just get the swr on the
antenna down.

"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
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Most of the hams I have seen with the MFJ do not have the skills to
really
use it and a simple swr meter would do just as well or beter for them.

That's a sad comment and contrary to my experience, though most of the
hams I know are also engineers or technicians in real life.


Our local club has about 55 members. About 1/4 of them never show up and
I am not even sure why they are on the roster,but they do pay the dues
every year. About 5 are XYLs and dubt any of them have any technical
skills.
There are 2 or 3 that are or have been involved with broadcast radio or
TV. One that was a 2 way man at the highway patrol. One or two that had
electrical or electronic education in college that were not into RF work.
There were a couple of more that had some other college education such as
a doctor or business.

Overall, out of 55 people maybe 2 or 3 could actually use the analizer to
do something that a simple SWR meter would not do, just get the swr on the
antenna down.


probably just bored jaded professionals ....