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Consider two series resistance chains, both with a 1K resistance
at the top, and one chain going to ground with an 11K resistance and
t'other going to ground with another 1K resistance, and then 12V applied
to both at the top.

When the switch is closed, how do the electrons and the electric field
"know"
that when they start moving that in the 11K case they only have to drop 1
volt
across the top 1K resistance, but in the case of the two 1K resistances in
series, they have to drop 6 volts across the top 1K resistance?




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Consider two series resistance chains, both with a 1K resistance
at the top, and one chain going to ground with an 11K resistance and
t'other going to ground with another 1K resistance, and then 12V applied
to both at the top.

When the switch is closed, how do the electrons and the electric field
"know"
that when they start moving that in the 11K case they only have to drop 1
volt
across the top 1K resistance, but in the case of the two 1K resistances in
series, they have to drop 6 volts across the top 1K resistance?




well where are the three answers?.....one likely, one silly and one
ridiculous ? ......


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gareth wrote:

Consider two series resistance chains, both with a 1K resistance
at the top, and one chain going to ground with an 11K resistance and
t'other going to ground with another 1K resistance, and then 12V applied
to both at the top.

When the switch is closed, how do the electrons and the electric field
"know"
that when they start moving that in the 11K case they only have to drop 1
volt
across the top 1K resistance, but in the case of the two 1K resistances in
series, they have to drop 6 volts across the top 1K resistance?


I think you would enjoy the extensive works of Ivor Catt, published in
Wireless World over the last half-century. Suffice it to say, it
happens pretty quickly.


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On Sat, 13 Feb 2016 15:37:57 +0000, gareth wrote:

Consider two series resistance chains, both with a 1K resistance at the
top, and one chain going to ground with an 11K resistance and t'other
going to ground with another 1K resistance, and then 12V applied to both
at the top.

When the switch is closed, how do the electrons and the electric field
"know"
that when they start moving that in the 11K case they only have to drop
1 volt across the top 1K resistance, but in the case of the two 1K
resistances in series, they have to drop 6 volts across the top 1K
resistance?

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"gareth" wrote in message
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Consider two series resistance chains, both with a 1K resistance
at the top, and one chain going to ground with an 11K resistance and
t'other going to ground with another 1K resistance, and then 12V applied
to both at the top.

When the switch is closed, how do the electrons and the electric field
"know"
that when they start moving that in the 11K case they only have to drop 1
volt
across the top 1K resistance, but in the case of the two 1K resistances in
series, they have to drop 6 volts across the top 1K resistance?


You claim to be a Polymath, and to have a "Superior Intellect", old Bean, so
why don't you tell us?
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In rec.radio.amateur.equipment gareth wrote:
Consider two series resistance chains, both with a 1K resistance
at the top, and one chain going to ground with an 11K resistance and
t'other going to ground with another 1K resistance, and then 12V applied
to both at the top.

When the switch is closed, how do the electrons and the electric field
"know"
that when they start moving that in the 11K case they only have to drop 1
volt
across the top 1K resistance, but in the case of the two 1K resistances in
series, they have to drop 6 volts across the top 1K resistance?


Anthropomorphising things generally leads to cartoon results.

Walt Disney made a fortune doing it.


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En el artículo , Roger Hayter
escribió:

I think you would enjoy the extensive works of Ivor Catt, published in
Wireless World over the last half-century.


wikipedia:

q "Catt spent six years in the 1960s working in five different
electronic companies in the USA. He was very disillusioned by his
experience" /q

Ooh, sounds familiar.

q "wrote a harsh critique of American management practices in his
book, The Catt Concept: The New Industrial Darwinism. [...] The book got
largely negative reviews, with Kirkus Reviews describing it as a
contrived and often muddled work that rested on "one man's bitter and
limited experience" /q

Well, that sums up Gareth Alun Evans to a T, doesn't it? But then we
all know he's a pussy catt.

Miaow!

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Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artículo , Roger Hayter
escribió:

I think you would enjoy the extensive works of Ivor Catt, published in
Wireless World over the last half-century.


wikipedia:

q "Catt spent six years in the 1960s working in five different
electronic companies in the USA. He was very disillusioned by his
experience" /q

Ooh, sounds familiar.

q "wrote a harsh critique of American management practices in his
book, The Catt Concept: The New Industrial Darwinism. [...] The book got
largely negative reviews, with Kirkus Reviews describing it as a
contrived and often muddled work that rested on "one man's bitter and
limited experience" /q

Well, that sums up Gareth Alun Evans to a T, doesn't it? But then we
all know he's a pussy catt.

Miaow!


I was actually thinking more of his work on what happens when you switch
on a simple circuit. He dd not think the textbooks explained it
convincingly so he invented his own theory. My take is that it depends
on maths that is beyond me, and there is no reason a simple
non-mathematical analogy should be both available and right. But it is
fun to read, if only for the monomaniacal rage expressed in apparently
reasonable words that Catt manages to get past the sub-editors.
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En el artículo , Roger Hayter
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But it is
fun to read, if only for the monomaniacal rage expressed in apparently
reasonable words that Catt manages to get past the sub-editors.


Thank you, that looks like fun. Do you happen to know if the relevant
issues are online?

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Mike Tomlinson wrote:

En el artículo , Roger Hayter
escribió:

But it is
fun to read, if only for the monomaniacal rage expressed in apparently
reasonable words that Catt manages to get past the sub-editors.


Thank you, that looks like fun. Do you happen to know if the relevant
issues are online?


Sorry, I just remember reading the articles as they came out over the
years. But someone recently put up the URL of an archive in one of
these groups, and it it is at all searchable they should be easy to
find.


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