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Am I the only one that does'nt like LCD screen ham radios?
I just finished looking at the Tentec Orion, and I thought it was ugly. I did not care for the Icom computer screen radios, or the Kenwood orange LCD screen radios either. I want real knobs to turn, real buttons to push, and a real analog meter to look at. I sit in front of a computer all day at work. I don't want to look at another computer screen when I get home and turn on my ham radio. Am I the only one that thinks a radio should look like a radio, and not an over sized Palm Pilot with a mic jack and a coax connector? -OB |
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Odd Ball wrote:
I just finished looking at the Tentec Orion, and I thought it was ugly. I did not care for the Icom computer screen radios, or the Kenwood orange LCD screen radios either. I want real knobs to turn, real buttons to push, and a real analog meter to look at. I sit in front of a computer all day at work. I don't want to look at another computer screen when I get home and turn on my ham radio. Am I the only one that thinks a radio should look like a radio, and not an over sized Palm Pilot with a mic jack and a coax connector? -OB If I'm going to run a piece of equipment from a computer I'd rather do it from a real computer and not even see the other parts of the system. I worked on a $80,000 telemetry receiving system that ran under Embedded Windows NT. A real pain in the ass to install the software and set the radios up on the production floor. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:02:54 GMT, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Odd Ball wrote: I just finished looking at the Tentec Orion, and I thought it was ugly. I did not care for the Icom computer screen radios, or the Kenwood orange LCD screen radios either. I want real knobs to turn, real buttons to push, and a real analog meter to look at. I sit in front of a computer all day at work. I don't want to look at another computer screen when I get home and turn on my ham radio. Am I the only one that thinks a radio should look like a radio, and not an over sized Palm Pilot with a mic jack and a coax connector? If I'm going to run a piece of equipment from a computer I'd rather do it from a real computer and not even see the other parts of the system. The highway patrol is gonna frown on that 17" monitor up on the dashboard. HI!HI! 73 Jonesy -- | Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux | Gunnison, Colorado | @ | Jonesy | OS/2 __ | 7,703' -- 2,345m | config.com | DM68mn SK |
Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:02:54 GMT, Michael A. Terrell wrote: If I'm going to run a piece of equipment from a computer I'd rather do it from a real computer and not even see the other parts of the system. The highway patrol is gonna frown on that 17" monitor up on the dashboard. HI!HI! 73 Jonesy Who has time to operate mobile when there are so many retired crazies on the road around here? :( -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Get a Collins KWM-2....................... THEY have meters and
knobs..........and TUBES TOO! "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Allodoxaphobia wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 16:02:54 GMT, Michael A. Terrell wrote: If I'm going to run a piece of equipment from a computer I'd rather do it from a real computer and not even see the other parts of the system. The highway patrol is gonna frown on that 17" monitor up on the dashboard. HI!HI! 73 Jonesy Who has time to operate mobile when there are so many retired crazies on the road around here? :( -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
John Franklin wrote:
Get a Collins KWM-2....................... THEY have meters and knobs..........and TUBES TOO! No thanks, the last transmitter I took care of was a 130 KW Comark UHF TV transmitter with the antenna on a 1749 foot tower and it had a 5 MW ERP from Orange City, Florida. I prefer working on high end receivers and their design problems but I had to leave the business due to health problems. This was my last project: http://www.l-3com.com/te/PDF/Microdyne/RCB-2000.pdf I worked as an engineering tech to help move it from hand built prototypes to the production floor. It sold for about $80,000 when I left Microdyne. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Curious; Where would you want the dimmer control to be located on your ideal 706? If you say as another layer to some menu function, well, that's where it is now, and even the unit powers down during the process, the eeprom is non-volatile so nothing is lost, or is it the slight pop you hear in the speaker when powering down? Like I say, just curious, I like mine a lot, but it's still new, and maybe time will jade my fondness. g I would like it to be in the menus while in operation. I know it would add depth to the menu, but i find it ridiculous that I have to turn the rig off when I want a brightener display or not. I usually leave it on dim but there are times I prefer the display light off and then on when I want to use it. and back off again. However, i recently ran across a situation where I wanted to brighten it for a short while. If I am in QSO, I don't want to turn the rig off and on again. I can't hear very well with the receiver turned off. -- 73 for now Buck N4PGW |
Curious; Where would you want the dimmer control to be located on your ideal 706? If you say as another layer to some menu function, well, that's where it is now, and even the unit powers down during the process, the eeprom is non-volatile so nothing is lost, or is it the slight pop you hear in the speaker when powering down? Like I say, just curious, I like mine a lot, but it's still new, and maybe time will jade my fondness. g PS I have the MK II, not G version. -- 73 for now Buck N4PGW |
The highway patrol is gonna frown on that 17" monitor up on the
dashboard. ....if they notice it over the monitor on their OWN dashboard. |
I worked in broadcasting too...........got tired of the heat from the big
jugs in the xmitter. He said he didn't like LCD...........would he prefer LEDS that consume MORE current? I always liked the Collins r-390A recvr, good box. John "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... No thanks, the last transmitter I took care of was a 130 KW Comark UHF TV transmitter with the antenna on a 1749 foot tower and it had a 5 MW ERP from Orange City, Florida. I prefer working on high end receivers and their design problems but I had to leave the business due to health problems. This was my last project: http://www.l-3com.com/te/PDF/Microdyne/RCB-2000.pdf I worked as an engineering tech to help move it from hand built prototypes to the production floor. It sold for about $80,000 when I left Microdyne. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
John Franklin wrote:
I worked in broadcasting too...........got tired of the heat from the big jugs in the xmitter. He said he didn't like LCD...........would he prefer LEDS that consume MORE current? I always liked the Collins r-390A recvr, good box. John I worked around a 5 MW ERP TV station, No heat problems working on the 130 KW Comark transmitter but it was a royal pain to flush the cooling system and refill the antifreeze every year. Truck loads of distilled bottled water in five gallon bottles because the well water at the site was so hard. We used a cleaner called Tyglos (sp) to remove any scaling from the plumbing but we had to keep it out of the three 65 KW Klystrons. We had to drain the system, disconnect the tubes and bypass them then flush the system. I bought some fiberglass duct board to put around the heat exchanger and used a "Salamander" heater to bring the system up to normal temperature so the cleaner would work. I have a National NC-183R on the bench right now to rebuild. Its a better radio than either of the Radio Shack DX-300 or DX-375 radios but I can't use it when the power lines are down after a hurricane. So, I keep the DX-375 and a Sony SRF-49 around for the hurricane season. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
That's why my wife and I left Florida, last years 4 hurricanes were more
that too much! "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... John Franklin wrote: I have a National NC-183R on the bench right now to rebuild. Its a better radio than either of the Radio Shack DX-300 or DX-375 radios but I can't use it when the power lines are down after a hurricane. So, I keep the DX-375 and a Sony SRF-49 around for the hurricane season. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
John Franklin wrote:
That's why my wife and I left Florida, last years 4 hurricanes were more that too much! "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... John Franklin wrote: I have a National NC-183R on the bench right now to rebuild. Its a better radio than either of the Radio Shack DX-300 or DX-375 radios but I can't use it when the power lines are down after a hurricane. So, I keep the DX-375 and a Sony SRF-49 around for the hurricane season. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida I'm old, sick and on disability so I'd rather take my chances than go through the stress of moving again. I'm here till I die. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Here, here or hear, hear (never did know the right spelling for that)
but, hear,here...I too am too old and disabled to move from this precious gulf coast, BUT, I won't have a green, or blue, or damn near red LCD on any rig/receiver in my house when I'm found dead in it. Butch said that Michael A. Terrell wrote: John Franklin wrote: That's why my wife and I left Florida, last years 4 hurricanes were more that too much! "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... John Franklin wrote: I have a National NC-183R on the bench right now to rebuild. Its a better radio than either of the Radio Shack DX-300 or DX-375 radios but I can't use it when the power lines are down after a hurricane. So, I keep the DX-375 and a Sony SRF-49 around for the hurricane season. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida I'm old, sick and on disability so I'd rather take my chances than go through the stress of moving again. I'm here till I die. |
no,
you are not alone. LCD displays and seemingly endless sub menus have kept me from purchasing newer gear. the most hi tech piece of gear in the shack here is a kenwood ts-940 and a ts-711-a. other than that, it has tubes in it. one rig i regret selling is the kenwood ts-830. simplicity at it's finest. it's all on the front panel. i have listened several times on 75 meters to people "tuning" the modern rigs. mostly, the yeasu ft-1000 whatever series. it must be my poor ears because i can not tell that much of a difference on ssb from the newer stuff to the older. kenwoods have always had great ssb audio. but if i am in the mood to listen to great audio, i tune in the 80 meter AM crowd and listen to them on my hammarlund receiver. everyone's millage varies, i suppose. i had a chance to purchase a icom 756 pro for what i thought was a reasonable price. when i began researching the rig, i found that not only were the lcd screens prone to failure, you could not get replacement screens for them. too much of a crap shoot for me with people wanting 800 +/- for them. i have several friends with lcd screen rigs. between the screen and the menus, i'd rather keep what i have. best 73 mike ku4yp |
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Am I the only one who still likes radios with tubes and dial strings? And
rectifiers that glow blue? And big ol' transformers that keep your coffee warm? -- ----- Joe S. "Odd Ball" wrote in message ... I just finished looking at the Tentec Orion, and I thought it was ugly. I did not care for the Icom computer screen radios, or the Kenwood orange LCD screen radios either. I want real knobs to turn, real buttons to push, and a real analog meter to look at. I sit in front of a computer all day at work. I don't want to look at another computer screen when I get home and turn on my ham radio. Am I the only one that thinks a radio should look like a radio, and not an over sized Palm Pilot with a mic jack and a coax connector? -OB |
Am I the only one who still likes radios with tubes and dial strings? And rectifiers that glow blue? And big ol' transformers that keep your coffee warm? I get all nostalgic over those, too, but I really don't miss burnt fingers and the threat of sudden death while working around them, anymore. :^) Ed |
And the neophyte asked...
Blue glow? I thought all vacuum tubes glowed orange at best. What's happening to cause the tube to run so hot? SR "Joe S." wrote in message ... Am I the only one who still likes radios with tubes and dial strings? And rectifiers that glow blue? And big ol' transformers that keep your coffee warm? -- ----- Joe S. |
Some of the old rectifiers had a blue glow to them.
SR wrote: And the neophyte asked... Blue glow? I thought all vacuum tubes glowed orange at best. What's happening to cause the tube to run so hot? SR "Joe S." wrote in message ... Am I the only one who still likes radios with tubes and dial strings? And rectifiers that glow blue? And big ol' transformers that keep your coffee warm? -- ----- Joe S. -- I have never met a liberal street cop. |
"nitespark" wrote in message news:StG1e.67555$7z6.58474@lakeread04... Some of the old rectifiers had a blue glow to them. And they flickered as you talked because the current load on the power supply changed with the modulation -- sort of like an aurora display right there on the floor. On the floor because the power supply was too damn heavy to sit on the desk. Modulation is a whole 'nother thread. SR wrote: And the neophyte asked... Blue glow? I thought all vacuum tubes glowed orange at best. What's happening to cause the tube to run so hot? SR "Joe S." wrote in message ... Am I the only one who still likes radios with tubes and dial strings? And rectifiers that glow blue? And big ol' transformers that keep your coffee warm? -- ----- Joe S. -- I have never met a liberal street cop. |
nitespark wrote:
Some of the old rectifiers had a blue glow to them. Mercury arc rectifiers? A bit large for domestic use! -- Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney UK www.stronsay.co.uk/claremont |
BTW they have a news group rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors just for the "ol
ways" folks. Good luck sparky |
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