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Ed June 29th 05 05:17 AM



With this being a guyed tower I find it hard to believe that the feet
will come out of the ground or do anything but sink farther into the
ground do to the weight of the tower and the soft soil.




Tell me what happens to guy wire tension if the weight of the 90' tower
allows it to sink further into the ground?



Ed


atec June 29th 05 05:41 AM

Ed wrote:
With this being a guyed tower I find it hard to believe that the feet
will come out of the ground or do anything but sink farther into the
ground do to the weight of the tower and the soft soil.





Tell me what happens to guy wire tension if the weight of the 90' tower
allows it to sink further into the ground?



Ed

We all know you go check the tower at least once a week for the 1st 3
months and then slightly less often unless weather gets rough , then you
tighten the turn buckles on the supporting cables , its not perfect but
it is up there.

Ron June 29th 05 06:22 AM

You do a continue check on the guys and keep tightening.

Ed wrote:

With this being a guyed tower I find it hard to believe that the feet
will come out of the ground or do anything but sink farther into the
ground do to the weight of the tower and the soft soil.





Tell me what happens to guy wire tension if the weight of the 90' tower
allows it to sink further into the ground?



Ed



Charlie June 29th 05 05:40 PM

Gentlemen...

First of all a little clarification....

1. It is a 75 ft tower not a 90 ft tower (the mast is 21 ft)
2. It has a base of over 3000 lbs of concrete in the ground (.75 cubic
yards)
3. Does my "90 ft tower" weigh any more than anyone else's "90 ft tower?"
4. If it settles then the guys will be tightened to compensate.
5. I have no neighbors near enough to have issues with a fallen tower. I'm
in the country.
6. The tower is covered by our homeowner's insurance under the group of
"outbuildings and other structures"
7. Yes..I am "proud of it".

Those that have been courteous and helpful..thank you very much. The others
can just go fish....or any other appropriate phrase you may think of.
--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net





"Ron" wrote in message ...
You do a continue check on the guys and keep tightening.

Ed wrote:

With this being a guyed tower I find it hard to believe that the feet
will come out of the ground or do anything but sink farther into the
ground do to the weight of the tower and the soft soil.





Tell me what happens to guy wire tension if the weight of the 90'
tower allows it to sink further into the ground?



Ed





Hank Oredson June 29th 05 10:51 PM

"Ed" wrote in message
2.175...


With this being a guyed tower I find it hard to believe that the feet
will come out of the ground or do anything but sink farther into the
ground do to the weight of the tower and the soft soil.




Tell me what happens to guy wire tension if the weight of the 90' tower
allows it to sink further into the ground?



Um ... you DO check your guy wire tension, and adjust as needed
from time to time, right? If not, you too have erected a big tall hazard.

--

... Hank

http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli



Hank Oredson June 29th 05 10:54 PM

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
Gentlemen...

First of all a little clarification....

1. It is a 75 ft tower not a 90 ft tower (the mast is 21 ft)
2. It has a base of over 3000 lbs of concrete in the ground (.75 cubic
yards)
3. Does my "90 ft tower" weigh any more than anyone else's "90 ft tower?"
4. If it settles then the guys will be tightened to compensate.
5. I have no neighbors near enough to have issues with a fallen tower. I'm
in the country.
6. The tower is covered by our homeowner's insurance under the group of
"outbuildings and other structures"
7. Yes..I am "proud of it".

Those that have been courteous and helpful..thank you very much. The
others can just go fish....or any other appropriate phrase you may think
of.



They just jealous single-wide dwellers, with CC&Rs :-)

--

... Hank

http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli



Dan/W4NTI July 2nd 05 11:33 PM


"Charlie" wrote in message
...
Gentlemen...

First of all a little clarification....

1. It is a 75 ft tower not a 90 ft tower (the mast is 21 ft)
2. It has a base of over 3000 lbs of concrete in the ground (.75 cubic
yards)
3. Does my "90 ft tower" weigh any more than anyone else's "90 ft tower?"
4. If it settles then the guys will be tightened to compensate.
5. I have no neighbors near enough to have issues with a fallen tower. I'm
in the country.
6. The tower is covered by our homeowner's insurance under the group of
"outbuildings and other structures"
7. Yes..I am "proud of it".

Those that have been courteous and helpful..thank you very much. The
others can just go fish....or any other appropriate phrase you may think
of.
--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net

Ya gotta understand Charlie that most of those complaining all live on
postage stamp lots, in cities, with neighbors. On the other hand, us
"Southerners" know better than to move into a antenna restricted
sub-division, with wall to wall covenants. They are to be felt sorry for.

I think your tower looks fine, when I get mine up this year I'll work you
on the 2 meter net.

Dan/W4NTI



Dan/W4NTI July 2nd 05 11:38 PM

Oh one more thing Charlie.

Several years ago I cobbled up a 25 and a 20G Rohn tower to make me a 90
footer.

Dug a 5 foot deep hole X 3' across and stuck a crappy looking section in it,
Think I used about 12 bags of Quick Creet. Bracketed the next section to
the house, and the crew stacked the rest and we guyed it with 3/8" twisted
steel, turnbuckles and trailor tie down (6') long concreted in with 4 bags
each.

Hung a full sized 20 meter monobander on it.

Stood three tornado's, four very strong straight line wind storms and
stayed up for 6 years before I took it down to move.

The tornado's tore up two trees either side of it BTW.

On inspection found NO problems. Sold the whole mess, and its still up.

Dan/W4NTI

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
Gentlemen...

First of all a little clarification....

1. It is a 75 ft tower not a 90 ft tower (the mast is 21 ft)
2. It has a base of over 3000 lbs of concrete in the ground (.75 cubic
yards)
3. Does my "90 ft tower" weigh any more than anyone else's "90 ft tower?"
4. If it settles then the guys will be tightened to compensate.
5. I have no neighbors near enough to have issues with a fallen tower. I'm
in the country.
6. The tower is covered by our homeowner's insurance under the group of
"outbuildings and other structures"
7. Yes..I am "proud of it".

Those that have been courteous and helpful..thank you very much. The
others can just go fish....or any other appropriate phrase you may think
of.
--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net





"Ron" wrote in message
...
You do a continue check on the guys and keep tightening.

Ed wrote:

With this being a guyed tower I find it hard to believe that the feet
will come out of the ground or do anything but sink farther into the
ground do to the weight of the tower and the soft soil.




Tell me what happens to guy wire tension if the weight of the 90'
tower allows it to sink further into the ground?



Ed







Charlie July 3rd 05 12:48 AM

Thx Dan..it's a deal!!

73 / DX

--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net





"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
link.net...

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
Gentlemen...

First of all a little clarification....

1. It is a 75 ft tower not a 90 ft tower (the mast is 21 ft)
2. It has a base of over 3000 lbs of concrete in the ground (.75 cubic
yards)
3. Does my "90 ft tower" weigh any more than anyone else's "90 ft tower?"
4. If it settles then the guys will be tightened to compensate.
5. I have no neighbors near enough to have issues with a fallen tower.
I'm in the country.
6. The tower is covered by our homeowner's insurance under the group of
"outbuildings and other structures"
7. Yes..I am "proud of it".

Those that have been courteous and helpful..thank you very much. The
others can just go fish....or any other appropriate phrase you may think
of.
--

Charlie
Ham Radio - AD5TH
www.ad5th.com
Deep South 2 Meter SSB Net
www.deepsouthnet.net

Ya gotta understand Charlie that most of those complaining all live on
postage stamp lots, in cities, with neighbors. On the other hand, us
"Southerners" know better than to move into a antenna restricted
sub-division, with wall to wall covenants. They are to be felt sorry
for.

I think your tower looks fine, when I get mine up this year I'll work you
on the 2 meter net.

Dan/W4NTI





Brad July 3rd 05 01:05 AM


"Dan/W4NTI" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Stood three tornado's, four very strong straight line wind storms and
stayed up for 6 years before I took it down to move.

The tornado's tore up two trees either side of it BTW.


Charlie has his tower guyed to a tree.

Brad.




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