Recommendations for a mike that would be used with a Kenwood TS-820 and
provide clean, clear audio. Presently using either the D-104 or the
Heil headset/boom with the DX cartridge. Good reports with the
processor off but bad reports with it on. Suggestions please and thanks?
K3BEQ

I used the D-104 for several years on a TS-820

A problem with "reports" is -- HF non-Dxers wouldn't know good processing
from bad. Most will tell you turn off the processing.

A true DXer can access your audio -- have them give you a report.

Use headphones and the MONI switch to assess it yourself and keep the COMP
LEVEL down -- then advance for reasonable compressed audio -- worked for me.

--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !






"Murray Green, K3BEQ" wrote in message
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Recommendations for a mike that would be used with a Kenwood TS-820 and
provide clean, clear audio. Presently using either the D-104 or the
Heil headset/boom with the DX cartridge. Good reports with the
processor off but bad reports with it on. Suggestions please and thanks?
K3BEQ

Good point. Completely forgot about the compression level know. Chalk
it up to a senior moment.


Caveat Lector wrote:

I used the D-104 for several years on a TS-820

A problem with "reports" is -- HF non-Dxers wouldn't know good processing
from bad. Most will tell you turn off the processing.

A true DXer can access your audio -- have them give you a report.

Use headphones and the MONI switch to assess it yourself and keep the COMP
LEVEL down -- then advance for reasonable compressed audio -- worked for me.

--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !

"Murray Green, K3BEQ" wrote in message
...

Recommendations for a mike that would be used with a Kenwood TS-820 and
provide clean, clear audio. Presently using either the D-104 or the
Heil headset/boom with the DX cartridge. Good reports with the
processor off but bad reports with it on. Suggestions please and thanks?
K3BEQ

***Got hold of veteran dxer overseas and tried the Heil with the
processor on and various positions of the compression level knob. In
each position the report was the same. "With the compression on,
I lose 50% of my talk power". Seems there is a tremendous difference
with it off as opposed to on. Reports with the compression off are
excellent and very competitive in breaking through the pileups.
Perhaps there is a problem with the compression circuitry because
the reports are typically the other way around in my experiences with
the Kenwood 830S and 940S. Since it is a backup rig will simply use it
without compression. The Heil makes up for the difference. Thanks again.


Caveat Lector wrote:

I used the D-104 for several years on a TS-820

A problem with "reports" is -- HF non-Dxers wouldn't know good processing
from bad. Most will tell you turn off the processing.

A true DXer can access your audio -- have them give you a report.

Use headphones and the MONI switch to assess it yourself and keep the COMP
LEVEL down -- then advance for reasonable compressed audio -- worked for me.

--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !

"Murray Green, K3BEQ" wrote in message
...

Recommendations for a mike that would be used with a Kenwood TS-820 and
provide clean, clear audio. Presently using either the D-104 or the
Heil headset/boom with the DX cartridge. Good reports with the
processor off but bad reports with it on. Suggestions please and thanks?
K3BEQ

Hard to beat the 'original' hand mic that comes with the radio. They still
can be found.



"Murray Green, K3BEQ" wrote in message
...

Recommendations for a mike that would be used with a Kenwood TS-820 and
provide clean, clear audio. Presently using either the D-104 or the
Heil headset/boom with the DX cartridge. Good reports with the
processor off but bad reports with it on. Suggestions please and thanks?
K3BEQ

**Thanks. Will look into it. Do you happen to know the model nr?

Royce Dean wrote:

Hard to beat the 'original' hand mic that comes with the radio. They still
can be found.

"Murray Green, K3BEQ" wrote in message
...

Recommendations for a mike that would be used with a Kenwood TS-820 and
provide clean, clear audio. Presently using either the D-104 or the
Heil headset/boom with the DX cartridge. Good reports with the
processor off but bad reports with it on. Suggestions please and thanks?
K3BEQ

Note that the D-104 has a rising characteristic for the high frequencies and
the Heil "Dream Machine" element actually places a 10dB rise at 2,000 Hz (a
frequency the human ear is highly responsive to).

DXers and contesters have found this to be very effective for busting
pileups. Listen to pileups -- the kids and YL's frequently get thru with the
high pitched voices.

One might assess this as a loss of "talk power" but it is quite to the
contrary. In fact
The HC-4 is THE choice for award-winning Contest and DX operators.

The stock mic for the TS-820 is indeed a great rag chew mic as is the Heil
HC-5 "The Key Element"

The best of both can be found in the Heil mics that have both elements.

Usually for rag chewing, don't use the processor and a high frequency mic.
But I wouldn't be without a high freq mic and processing when DXing or
contesting.

Again I suggest you get a local real DXer or contester to assess your audio

--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !






"Murray Green, K3BEQ" wrote in message
...
**Thanks. Will look into it. Do you happen to know the model nr?

Royce Dean wrote:

Hard to beat the 'original' hand mic that comes with the radio. They
still
can be found.

"Murray Green, K3BEQ" wrote in message
...

Recommendations for a mike that would be used with a Kenwood TS-820 and
provide clean, clear audio. Presently using either the D-104 or the
Heil headset/boom with the DX cartridge. Good reports with the
processor off but bad reports with it on. Suggestions please and
thanks?
K3BEQ

HC-5 works well with most rigs it matches to. TS2000
allows additional EQ that is a bit cleaner than the HC-4. I find
that Bandwidth in excess of 2.6 is worthless and 2.4 is most
useful (2.2 kHz if I don't mind sounding like a girl to get
the DX).

I used a Shure 444 with my TS830 with good results for years.
With some trial and error and monitoring on a second receiver
much attenuated, I learned to keep the compression down to
6 db and it sounded great and clean by flattening the low
frequency components and sharply filtering below 400 Hz.
Switching to the HC-5 found little change with the
processor on because there is less energy in the lower end
to start with.

You need to compare the different mics when listening on
another RCVR. A difficult set-up, but worthwhile. Also it helps
to have a scope set up to monitor the envelope when
T-shooting the processor. It will give you a better appreciation
for what is going wrong. Proper mic selection and technique
can give as much intelligibility that can be had with processing.

I am using a Pro-Set to maintain the proper mic distance.



"Caveat Lector" wrote in message
news:vGSye.5244$HV1.1561@fed1read07...
Note that the D-104 has a rising characteristic for the high
frequencies and
the Heil "Dream Machine" element actually places a 10dB rise at
2,000 Hz (a
frequency the human ear is highly responsive to).

DXers and contesters have found this to be very effective for
busting
pileups. Listen to pileups -- the kids and YL's frequently get thru
with the
high pitched voices.

One might assess this as a loss of "talk power" but it is quite to
the
contrary. In fact
The HC-4 is THE choice for award-winning Contest and DX operators.

The stock mic for the TS-820 is indeed a great rag chew mic as is
the Heil
HC-5 "The Key Element"

The best of both can be found in the Heil mics that have both
elements.

Usually for rag chewing, don't use the processor and a high
frequency mic.
But I wouldn't be without a high freq mic and processing when DXing
or
contesting.

Again I suggest you get a local real DXer or contester to assess
your audio

--
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !






"Murray Green, K3BEQ" wrote in message
...
**Thanks. Will look into it. Do you happen to know the model nr?

Royce Dean wrote:

Hard to beat the 'original' hand mic that comes with the radio.
They
still
can be found.

"Murray Green, K3BEQ" wrote in message
...

Recommendations for a mike that would be used with a Kenwood
TS-820 and
provide clean, clear audio. Presently using either the D-104
or the
Heil headset/boom with the DX cartridge. Good reports with the
processor off but bad reports with it on. Suggestions please
and
thanks?
K3BEQ