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You may find that sci.electronic.misc or sci.electronic.design may be more
relevant, since it's commercial/military and not amateur. Mind you, they
may also be less polite.....

Ken



Wow , there are news groups that are less polite than some of the people in
this news group.
That's sad. Unnecessary rudeness is unnecessary and rude.
Ace - WH2T

"Dr.Ace" wrote in message
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You may find that sci.electronic.misc or sci.electronic.design may be
more relevant, since it's commercial/military and not amateur. Mind you,
they may also be less polite.....

Ken



Wow , there are news groups that are less polite than some of the people
in this news group.
That's sad. Unnecessary rudeness is unnecessary and rude.
Ace - WH2T

A couple of threads aside, this is a pretty good group. So are the others I
mentioned, but they don't tolerate the sort of technical vagueness that's
being displayed in this thread.

Cheers.

Ken

If you want to see an unpolite newsgroup, post a home owner message at
alt.hvac and watch it fly.

Stretch

"Ari Silversteinn" wrote in message
...
DHS has proposed a change in scenario. They want an on locomotive alerting
system that could be commandeered and driven at, near or about a disaster
site. Everything else stays more or less the same, overbroadcasting on
local AM/FM, power off the locomotive, selective or full frequency
broadcasting, train (s) to be in motion at all times. 20-30 second
messages
that would also combine a message to be aware that a locomotive (at speed)
will be flying by the at grade crossings.

Comments?

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:15:23 +1300, Ken Taylor wrote:

Impractical, for the same reasons cited earlier. What's wrong with
electronic message boards on trailers fitted with sirens and, if deemed
necessarily, a very large guy with a gun to maintain interest.

Nothing but why not broadcast an alert that a locomotive, especially at
unmarked crossings, is approaching and too supplement other warning
systems?

You may find that sci.electronic.misc or sci.electronic.design may be more
relevant, since it's commercial/military and not amateur. Mind you, they may
also be less polite.....

Ken

Thanks, Ken.

Should I be scared?
--
Drop the alphabet for email

"Ari Silversteinn" wrote in message
...


"Ari Silversteinn" wrote in message
...
DHS has proposed a change in scenario. They want an on locomotive
alerting
system that could be commandeered and driven at, near or about a
disaster
site. Everything else stays more or less the same, overbroadcasting on
local AM/FM, power off the locomotive, selective or full frequency
broadcasting, train (s) to be in motion at all times. 20-30 second
messages
that would also combine a message to be aware that a locomotive (at
speed)
will be flying by the at grade crossings.

Comments?

On Tue, 4 Oct 2005 11:15:23 +1300, Ken Taylor wrote:

Impractical, for the same reasons cited earlier. What's wrong with
electronic message boards on trailers fitted with sirens and, if deemed
necessarily, a very large guy with a gun to maintain interest.

Nothing but why not broadcast an alert that a locomotive, especially at
unmarked crossings, is approaching and too supplement other warning
systems?

You may find that sci.electronic.misc or sci.electronic.design may be
more
relevant, since it's commercial/military and not amateur. Mind you, they
may
also be less polite.....

Ken

Thanks, Ken.

Should I be scared?
--
No, but forewarned is fore armed. :-) Your spec's are a bit nebulous, to say
the least. I'm not accusing you of having no clue, but I'm damn glad DHS
doesn't use tax-payer funds from this part of the world. This is an exercise
in getting rid of funds grabbed during a crisis, when the opportunity arose
to expand the empire. Standard bureaucratic function.

Cheers.

Ken

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:19:05 +1300, Ken Taylor wrote:


You may find that sci.electronic.misc or sci.electronic.design may be
more
relevant, since it's commercial/military and not amateur. Mind you, they
may
also be less polite.....

Ken

Thanks, Ken.

Should I be scared?
--
No, but forewarned is fore armed. :-) Your spec's are a bit nebulous, to say
the least. I'm not accusing you of having no clue, but I'm damn glad DHS
doesn't use tax-payer funds from this part of the world. This is an exercise
in getting rid of funds grabbed during a crisis, when the opportunity arose
to expand the empire. Standard bureaucratic function.

The problem is that anything that is speced at this point is bound to be
changed by FEMA, DHS, FCC, and God knows who else. The idea is to start
somewhere and march forward beginning with the writing of a "white paper"
that can be shot full of holes.
--
Drop the alphabet for email

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:19:42 -0400, Ari Silversteinn
wrote:

DHS has proposed a change in scenario. They want an on locomotive alerting
system that could be commandeered and driven at, near or about a disaster
site. Everything else stays more or less the same, overbroadcasting on
local AM/FM, power off the locomotive, selective or full frequency
broadcasting, train (s) to be in motion at all times. 20-30 second messages
that would also combine a message to be aware that a locomotive (at speed)
will be flying by the at grade crossings.

Comments?

Tracks across Lake Ponchartrain fell in.

Granted they were put back in service faster than anything the
government had connection to.

wrote in message
...
On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:19:42 -0400, Ari Silversteinn
wrote:

DHS has proposed a change in scenario. They want an on locomotive alerting
system that could be commandeered and driven at, near or about a disaster
site. Everything else stays more or less the same, overbroadcasting on
local AM/FM, power off the locomotive, selective or full frequency
broadcasting, train (s) to be in motion at all times. 20-30 second
messages
that would also combine a message to be aware that a locomotive (at speed)
will be flying by the at grade crossings.

Comments?

Tracks across Lake Ponchartrain fell in.

Granted they were put back in service faster than anything the
government had connection to.

Why a loco anyway? It would appear to be the mistaken assumption that
anything that big must have power to burn on anything plugged in by a user.
Not the case - the power from a loco is, not surprisingly, applied to the
tracks. The electric generators used for powering gear other than the
train's vitals are not high power.

Ken

Ken Taylor wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:19:42 -0400, Ari Silversteinn
wrote:


DHS has proposed a change in scenario. They want an on locomotive alerting
system that could be commandeered and driven at, near or about a disaster
site. Everything else stays more or less the same, overbroadcasting on
local AM/FM, power off the locomotive, selective or full frequency
broadcasting, train (s) to be in motion at all times. 20-30 second
messages
that would also combine a message to be aware that a locomotive (at speed)
will be flying by the at grade crossings.

Comments?

Tracks across Lake Ponchartrain fell in.

Granted they were put back in service faster than anything the
government had connection to.


Why a loco anyway? It would appear to be the mistaken assumption that
anything that big must have power to burn on anything plugged in by a user.
Not the case - the power from a loco is, not surprisingly, applied to the
tracks. The electric generators used for powering gear other than the
train's vitals are not high power.

Guys, don't ya know that this guy is trolling and caught way more than
the daily creel limit?

- Mike KB3EIA -

"Mike Coslo" wrote in message
...
Ken Taylor wrote:
wrote in message
...

On Mon, 3 Oct 2005 17:19:42 -0400, Ari Silversteinn
wrote:


DHS has proposed a change in scenario. They want an on locomotive
alerting
system that could be commandeered and driven at, near or about a
disaster
site. Everything else stays more or less the same, overbroadcasting on
local AM/FM, power off the locomotive, selective or full frequency
broadcasting, train (s) to be in motion at all times. 20-30 second
messages
that would also combine a message to be aware that a locomotive (at
speed)
will be flying by the at grade crossings.

Comments?

Tracks across Lake Ponchartrain fell in.

Granted they were put back in service faster than anything the
government had connection to.


Why a loco anyway? It would appear to be the mistaken assumption that
anything that big must have power to burn on anything plugged in by a
user. Not the case - the power from a loco is, not surprisingly, applied
to the tracks. The electric generators used for powering gear other than
the train's vitals are not high power.

Guys, don't ya know that this guy is trolling and caught way more than the
daily creel limit?

- Mike KB3EIA -

Well, he's not a troll in that he's making it up as he goes - it appears he
really is hoping to do for his company what he says (source: Google).

However it's a job which really equates to:
Government fleeces tax-payers
Bureaucrat gets hold of budget allocation
Bureaucrat needs to succeed - ie. unload allocation
Ari and co. want to be under the hopper when the jackpot payout commences

A valid way of doing business, but still a crock.

Ken