ARRL members, I need your help.
 

Please email mail this to your Division Directors and Section managers.
With a loud voice, maybe we can get the ARRL to work for us instead of
against us:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements
required for their license class.


The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

Slow Code wrote:
No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all
elements required for their license class.

This sounds like a great way to kill off amateur radio.

Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.
Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.

Um, haven't you been following what is going on in the rest of the
modern world? Code is dead in most first world countries, and in a few
months it will be gone in the U.S. too.

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

This personifies why the Amateur Radio Service has lost an entire generation
of new members as well as why the average Ham is aged 62.5 years old.

It also goes far in explaining why fewer Emergency Operations Centers
managers look upon Amateur Radio as a viable means of support during an
emergency.

This thinking truly puts the "amateur" back into the Amateur Radio Service.

This is a perfect example of viewing the future through your rear-view
mirror.

All in favor of that should respond to the relay league with their vote for
the continuance of CW as a "filter" ; in spite of the decisions already made
during the WRC03.

It has already "filtered" out the expertise of those receiving the most up
to date training in digital communications.

Show your level of understanding of the current situation; vote for the
continuance of CW as a requirement for the death of the Amateur Radio
Service.

You better do it quickly; the ARRL has already announced new testing
material being released for exams administered after July 1st, 2006.

Wink, Wink - Nudge, Nudge

The Code is dead; long live the code....


"Slow Code" wrote in message
k.net...

Please email mail this to your Division Directors and Section managers.
With a loud voice, maybe we can get the ARRL to work for us instead of
against us:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements
required for their license class.


The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

here's a thought.. don't feed this troll and we won't have to plonk another thread. ARRL members, I need your help.
 

here's a thought.. don't feed this troll and we won't have to plonk another
50-message thread.

..
..
..


"Slow Code" wrote in message
k.net...

Please email mail this to your Division Directors and Section managers.
With a loud voice, maybe we can get the ARRL to work for us instead of
against us:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements
required for their license class.


The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

"Slow Code" wrote in message
k.net...

Please email mail this to your Division Directors and Section managers.
With a loud voice, maybe we can get the ARRL to work for us instead of
against us:



No way. Your proposals are, in general, not reasonable.

No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements
required for their license class.


Actually there are NO automatic renewals now. You must apply for the
renewal. There's really no need to retest.


The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


Why? It's been 74% as far back as I can remember.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


The original code test back in the earliest days of licensing was only 5wpm.
It would be nice to have the 13wpm as a requirement since that's the speed
at which most people can't count the dits and dahs but those who use it will
get past that anyway. The 20wpm was only icing on the cake so don't see a
real need for it. Those who get to the 13wpm will get to the 20wpm if they
use it much. Although I advocate keeping code testing, we need not
reinstate the 20wpm in my opinion.


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


Pointless change. Many people don't gain enough experience or get together
enough of a station in a year to know if they want to continue.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

Dee Flint wrote:
"Slow Code" wrote in message
k.net...

Please email mail this to your Division Directors and Section managers.
With a loud voice, maybe we can get the ARRL to work for us instead of
against us:



No way. Your proposals are, in general, not reasonable.
a reasonble if foolish post (it is foolish in that you arguing with a
nut job)

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

Why??? Morse Code does not make you a better radio operator, On air
experiance does. This idea that morse code makes you a better operatror
is nothing more then a myth.

Todd N9OGL
General Class Operator

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

N9OGL wrote:
Why??? Morse Code does not make you a better radio operator, On air
experiance does. This idea that morse code makes you a better operatror
is nothing more then a myth.

Todd N9OGL
General Class Operator

be afir it once meant something becuase morse wsas all there was but it
has meant little in my lifetime or your Todd meant fairly little even
in the lifetimes of the ham that scream for it

here's a thought.. don't feed this troll and we won't have toplonk another thread. ARRL members, I need your help.
 

Woody wrote:
here's a thought.. don't feed this troll and we won't have to plonk another
50-message thread.

.
.
.

Second that!

here's a thought.. don't feed this troll and we won't have to plonk another thread. ARRL members, I need your help.
 

X-Post canceled)

concur

-n6ojn

"Woody" wrote in message
news:tF6ag.2207$_B5.225@trnddc01...
here's a thought.. don't feed this troll and we won't have to plonk
another 50-message thread.

.
.
.


"Slow Code" wrote in message
k.net...

Please email mail this to your Division Directors and Section managers.
With a loud voice, maybe we can get the ARRL to work for us instead of
against us:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements
required for their license class.


The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

N9OGL wrote:
Why??? Morse Code does not make you a better radio operator, On air
experiance does. This idea that morse code makes you a better operatror
is nothing more then a myth.

Todd N9OGL
General Class Operator

You only say that because you had to struggle to get the 5 wpm code
required now, Toad.

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:35:36 -0400, wrote:

"This is a perfect example of viewing the future through your
rear-view mirror."

I view many things through my rear-view mirror these days. It's a
better view, for the most part. Perhaps amateur radio would be better
off dying a slow death, rather than becoming completely *******ized.

I am not sure it would be fun to take all the elements from back in
the the 60s, every four years, though.

No, I am no longer an ARRL member....

Win, w0lz

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

wrote:
N9OGL wrote:
Why??? Morse Code does not make you a better radio operator, On air
experiance does. This idea that morse code makes you a better operatror
is nothing more then a myth.

Todd N9OGL
General Class Operator

You only say that because you had to struggle to get the 5 wpm code
required now, Toad.
so?
and if thpeople like steve were correct that would eman that Todd is
mericalously converted to a fine operator, and heis opertiors skill
changed not a wit meaning anyway you look at morse code testing does
nothing for the ARS

get help wismen

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

Bert Hyman wrote in
:

(Travis Jordan) wrote in
:

Slow Code wrote:
No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all
elements required for their license class.

This sounds like a great way to kill off amateur radio.

Sounds more like a proposal from somebody who runs a VE service.




I just knew none of you rotton scum would help. You Gotta have your free
handouts don't you. ARRL pampered you well. I'll bet you all pay for your
food with food stamps and talk on CB all day long from government assisted
project housing.

Assholes.

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

In article t,
Slow Code wrote:

Please email mail this to your Division Directors and Section managers.
With a loud voice, maybe we can get the ARRL to work for us instead of
against us:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all elements
required for their license class.


The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

The real demise of ham radio is not from dropping the code, but from
making it such a elitist group that nobody wants to join. There is
safety in numbers. We need to make the numbers bigger not smaller.

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

Please.... oh, please... just don't feed the trolls...



"Slow Code" wrote in message
nk.net...
Bert Hyman wrote in
:

(Travis Jordan) wrote in
:

Slow Code wrote:
No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all
elements required for their license class.

This sounds like a great way to kill off amateur radio.

Sounds more like a proposal from somebody who runs a VE service.




I just knew none of you rotton scum would help. You Gotta have your free
handouts don't you. ARRL pampered you well. I'll bet you all pay for your
food with food stamps and talk on CB all day long from government assisted
project housing.

Assholes.

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

The Wasp wrote:
In article t,
Slow Code wrote:


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

The real demise of ham radio is not from dropping the code, but from
making it such a elitist group that nobody wants to join. There is
safety in numbers. We need to make the numbers bigger not smaller.

well said

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

umm, moron I took my 5 WPM back in 1991 and my 13 WPM in 1993...you
don't what the **** your talking about

Todd N9OGL

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

umm, moron I took my 5 WPM back in 1991 and my 13 WPM in 1993...you
don't what the **** your talking about

Todd N9OGL

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

The Wasp wrote in
:

In article t,
Slow Code wrote:

Please email mail this to your Division Directors and Section managers.
With a loud voice, maybe we can get the ARRL to work for us instead of
against us:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all
elements required for their license class.


The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

The real demise of ham radio is not from dropping the code, but from
making it such a elitist group that nobody wants to join. There is
safety in numbers. We need to make the numbers bigger not smaller.



Yes. One big happy CB like family with a few Homo's thrown in to make it
more perverted.

sc

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

jawod wrote:
Woody wrote:
Please.... oh, please... just don't feed the trolls...


I completely agree

In case there is ANYBODY out there not realizing this yet:

Here's how it works:

A post will go as follows:

"The ARRL is a Nazi (or insert Liberal or Gay, or whatever) and all
Techs (or Extras or...)should be shot. AND I SUPPORT IT!!!"
on the other hand it is at least more on topic that the filth posted by
wisemen and robeson

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

X-Post canceled

"Slow Code" wrote in message
nk.net...
Bert Hyman wrote in
:

(Travis Jordan) wrote in
:

Slow Code wrote:
No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all
elements required for their license class.

This sounds like a great way to kill off amateur radio.

Sounds more like a proposal from somebody who runs a VE service.




I just knew none of you rotton scum would help. You Gotta have your free
handouts don't you. ARRL pampered you well. I'll bet you all pay for your
food with food stamps and talk on CB all day long from government assisted
project housing.

Assholes.

Yeah, right.... welcome to my killfile

*PLONK*

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

You are the one posting filth, beer enema boy!

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

Not Cocksucker Lloyd wrote:
You are the one posting filth, beer enema boy!
nope

get help wismen

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

Why would anyone want to belong to the ARRL. All they care about is your
doe. Save the doe for dinner...


"N9OGL" wrote in message
ups.com...
Why??? Morse Code does not make you a better radio operator, On air
experiance does. This idea that morse code makes you a better operatror
is nothing more then a myth.

Todd N9OGL
General Class Operator

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

assraped by an old freind wrote:
Not Cocksucker Lloyd wrote:
You are the one posting filth, beer enema boy!
nope

Yep.

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

Slow,
It's is a shame you have to:

1- talk like this and
2- have so little respect for others and
3- have no ability to rationally discuss prows and cons complex issues and
4- have a poor understanding of what makes a good ham and
5- have so little understanding some real-world practical aspects of this
issue and most importantly...
6- show such poor ham characteristics.
7- and probably have so little real knowledge of ham radio, is my guess.
and
8- be a troll

If you're also a 20 WPM extra, then we can easily do without your immature
attitudes and behaviors here and on the bands.

Hey guys! it is also a shame you get drawn into these types and feed their
small minds.

73, Steve, K9DCI
Please carefully note the date of my Extra when you check QRZ.

[[.swap post omitted]]

"Slow Code" wrote in message
nk.net...
Bert Hyman wrote in
:

(Travis Jordan) wrote in
:

Slow Code wrote:
No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass all
elements required for their license class.

This sounds like a great way to kill off amateur radio.

Sounds more like a proposal from somebody who runs a VE service.




I just knew none of you rotton scum would help. You Gotta have your free
handouts don't you. ARRL pampered you well. I'll bet you all pay for your
food with food stamps and talk on CB all day long from government assisted
project housing.

Assholes.

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

In "Steve N."
wrote:


Hey guys! it is also a shame you get drawn into these types and feed
their small minds.


Well, the thread was dead a week ago and it's a shame you had to start
it up again.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

Bert Hyman wrote:
In "Steve N."
wrote:


Hey guys! it is also a shame you get drawn into these types and feed
their small minds.


Well, the thread was dead a week ago and it's a shame you had to start
it up again.

OTOH it does beat most of the thread that get tajken by wsimen rantig
and raving and foaming at the mouth

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

"Steve N." wrote in
:

Slow,
It's is a shame you have to:

1- talk like this and
2- have so little respect for others and
3- have no ability to rationally discuss prows and cons complex issues
and 4- have a poor understanding of what makes a good ham and
5- have so little understanding some real-world practical aspects of
this issue and most importantly...
6- show such poor ham characteristics.
7- and probably have so little real knowledge of ham radio, is my guess.
and
8- be a troll

If you're also a 20 WPM extra, then we can easily do without your
immature attitudes and behaviors here and on the bands.

Hey guys! it is also a shame you get drawn into these types and feed
their small minds.

73, Steve, K9DCI


Yes, Yes, yes,
but what are your thoughts on the following:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass
all elements required for their license class.


The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.


sc

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

Slow Code wrote:
"Steve N." wrote in
:

Slow,
It's is a shame you have to:

1- talk like this and
2- have so little respect for others and
3- have no ability to rationally discuss prows and cons complex issues
and 4- have a poor understanding of what makes a good ham and
5- have so little understanding some real-world practical aspects of
this issue and most importantly...
6- show such poor ham characteristics.
7- and probably have so little real knowledge of ham radio, is my guess.
and
8- be a troll

If you're also a 20 WPM extra, then we can easily do without your
immature attitudes and behaviors here and on the bands.

Hey guys! it is also a shame you get drawn into these types and feed
their small minds.

73, Steve, K9DCI


Yes, Yes, yes,
but what are your thoughts on the following:


but he aswer that in in 3 and 4 and 5

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

In article . net,
Slow Code wrote:

Yes, Yes, yes,
but what are your thoughts on the following:

Meta-comment: I think that if all of the ideas you propose were
actually enacted into regulation, and then ten years were go by, the
United States Amateur Radio Service would be unlikely to have more
than 1/4 of the number of licencees that it has today.

That's great if you want to create a "private club" for a few years
after that.

However, it's lousy if you want there to actually *be* an Amateur
Radio Service twenty or thirty years from now. With so few licensees
and as little activity as I think there'd be after such a decimation,
the odds are good that a lot of the U.S. amateur radio bands would be
"re-purposed" for other spectrum users.

No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass
all elements required for their license class.

Unlikely to pass, due to the cost and bureaucratic overhead.

I'd guess that at least a third of current licensees coming up for
renewal would decide not to bother, and let their licenses lapse (and
that's in addition to the rate of non-renewal which takes place today).

The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.

I'd have no real objection to this. Dunno if it's a good idea or a
bad idea.

Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.

This will never happen, for two major reasons:

[1] CW is no longer an international treaty requirement AT ALL.
The results of the WARC conferences made it clear that the
international community considers CW a useful mode, and a big
part of amateur tradition, but that it's no longer in sufficient
use in military/commercial applications to justify making it
a legal requirement for amateur HF licensing.

[2] The FCC has made it quite clear (in their responses to the
numerous petitions filed about [1]) that they no longer consider
it in the public interest to require CW proficiency for an
HF license. They are proposing to remove the CW requirement
entirely.

In its filings, the ARRL has proposed retaining the existing 5 WPM
requirement for Amateur Extra. The FCC's response adds up to "No.
Not justified. No CW requirement at all."

My understanding is that the ARRL's comments received from their
membership, and the comments received directly by the FCC in response
to the various petitions, are pretty consistent. Only a small
percentage of the people who have commented, feel as you do. Most
commenters either want to eliminate the CW requirement entirely (as
many other countries have done), or eliminate it for General and
retain it for Extra.

What you propose is also unlikely to happen because the FCC and ARRL
both remember what happened the last time they tried tightening the
rules and raising the requirements and trying to force people to
upgrade. My understanding (from reading - I wasn't licensed back
then) is that the Powers That Be concluded that this sort of incentive
licensing pressure created more resentment, and did more damage to the
health of the amateur radio community, than whatever benefits came
from it justified.

I've read statements from the FCC, over the past few years, to the
effect that they're just not interested in taking operating privileges
away from anyone.

Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.

Once again, I think that the number of licensees that the Amateur
Radio Service would lose (or would never get in the first place, once
people learned of the non-renewable status) would outweigh the
possible advantage of this approach (giving licensees more of an
inducement to increase their level of knowledge, and upgrade).

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

ARRL members, I need your help...[snip]
 

OK, OK, OK I'll bite just a bit...


"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Steve N." wrote in
:

Slow,
It's is a shame you have to:

1- talk like this and
2- have so little respect for others and
3- have no ability to rationally discuss prows and cons complex issues
and 4- have a poor understanding of what makes a good ham and
5- have so little understanding some real-world practical aspects of
this issue and most importantly...
6- show such poor ham characteristics.
7- and probably have so little real knowledge of ham radio, is my guess.
and
8- be a troll

If you're also a 20 WPM extra, then we can easily do without your
immature attitudes and behaviors here and on the bands.

Hey guys! it is also a shame you get drawn into these types and feed
their small minds.

73, Steve, K9DCI


Yes, Yes, yes,
but what are your thoughts on the following:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass
all elements required for their license class.


sc,

Lesee... Well, I believe you have some discussable concepts here.

In other areas there are currency requirements. Flying, for example. If
you haven't kept up, you need refresher flights with an instructor. We
first try to outline what is gained / lost over time and whether re-testing
can address these issues. Old timers will be required to learn about QPSK
and all the modern concepts.

Then we go from here.

One general area you seem to fail to address is some of the practical
aspects regarding number of licensees and the viability of retaining the
Amateur Service all together. If the number of Hams keeps declining, will
there be ANY licenses...and do you (in general) want to preserve something,
or kill it all if numbers fall, manufacturers stop producing products,
etc... This can not be ignored in the rest of the discussions.

I know Extras who couldn't build a thing, yet are active, intelligent and
law abiding. They have interest I can discuss with them. I also know
no-code'ers that are the most serious hams around...not to mention several
that came from CB and are now died-in-the-wool-hams.
I also hear Extras on the air that should aim for a tree the next time they
drive a car.

Is learning CW a "right of passage" and an effort that helps to strengthen
the Ham...yes...for some. Does it guarantee an excellent, expert Ham? Not
by a long shot. That comes from elsewhere.

However, based on the post of yours that I responded to, I choose not to
go further since you have demonstrated such a poor attitude, I feel it is
not worth the time exploring with you. Ill pick more important battles.
Enjoy your Hamm activities (if you have any) and be content. you brand or
devisiveness accompliches nothing except, perhaps allowing a few of the
responders to vent and possibly hear (though by accident) some reasonable
points.

Do you have a call, name? With a pseudonym like yours, I'd think you'dbe on
the other side. What are you affraid of?

73, Steve K9DCI

The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.

How about the licence grade depending on the score? How about much
more strict requirements for on-air procedure. I hear many who have
licenses and still don't know how to communicate efficiently in emergency
drills or ID properly.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.

CW only was a requirement due to international treaty in the first
place. That is no longer the case. You are clrarly hung up on CW. WHY?
What does it bring / guarantee? Why is CW so much more important that all
other aspects of on-air operation?

Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.

This still comes directly from the "CW or nothing" concept.
73 (in the truest sense)

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

ARRL members, I need your help...[snip]
 

"Steve N." wrote in
:

OK, OK, OK I'll bite just a bit...


"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
"Steve N." wrote in
:

Slow,
It's is a shame you have to:

1- talk like this and
2- have so little respect for others and
3- have no ability to rationally discuss prows and cons complex
issues and 4- have a poor understanding of what makes a good ham and
5- have so little understanding some real-world practical aspects of
this issue and most importantly...
6- show such poor ham characteristics.
7- and probably have so little real knowledge of ham radio, is my
guess. and
8- be a troll

If you're also a 20 WPM extra, then we can easily do without your
immature attitudes and behaviors here and on the bands.

Hey guys! it is also a shame you get drawn into these types and feed
their small minds.

73, Steve, K9DCI


Yes, Yes, yes,
but what are your thoughts on the following:


No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and pass
all elements required for their license class.


sc,

Lesee... Well, I believe you have some discussable concepts here.

In other areas there are currency requirements. Flying, for example.
If
you haven't kept up, you need refresher flights with an instructor. We
first try to outline what is gained / lost over time and whether
re-testing can address these issues. Old timers will be required to
learn about QPSK and all the modern concepts.

Then we go from here.

One general area you seem to fail to address is some of the practical
aspects regarding number of licensees and the viability of retaining the
Amateur Service all together. If the number of Hams keeps declining,
will there be ANY licenses...and do you (in general) want to preserve
something, or kill it all if numbers fall, manufacturers stop producing
products, etc... This can not be ignored in the rest of the
discussions.

I know Extras who couldn't build a thing, yet are active, intelligent
and law abiding. They have interest I can discuss with them. I also
know no-code'ers that are the most serious hams around...not to mention
several that came from CB and are now died-in-the-wool-hams.
I also hear Extras on the air that should aim for a tree the next time
they drive a car.

Is learning CW a "right of passage" and an effort that helps to
strengthen the Ham...yes...for some. Does it guarantee an excellent,
expert Ham? Not by a long shot. That comes from elsewhere.

However, based on the post of yours that I responded to, I choose
not to
go further since you have demonstrated such a poor attitude, I feel it
is not worth the time exploring with you. Ill pick more important
battles. Enjoy your Hamm activities (if you have any) and be content.
you brand or devisiveness accompliches nothing except, perhaps allowing
a few of the responders to vent and possibly hear (though by accident)
some reasonable points.

Do you have a call, name? With a pseudonym like yours, I'd think
you'dbe on the other side. What are you affraid of?

73, Steve K9DCI

The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.

How about the licence grade depending on the score? How about
much
more strict requirements for on-air procedure. I hear many who have
licenses and still don't know how to communicate efficiently in
emergency drills or ID properly.


Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.

CW only was a requirement due to international treaty in the
first
place. That is no longer the case. You are clrarly hung up on CW.
WHY? What does it bring / guarantee? Why is CW so much more important
that all other aspects of on-air operation?

Make the no-code Tech license one year non-renewable.

This still comes directly from the "CW or nothing" concept.
73 (in the truest sense)



My arguement has always been for the quality of the hams. You appreciate
something more that you had to work to achieve, and respect the rewards
it gives.

Cheapening something makes it disposable. Ham numbers are declining.

sc

ARRL members, I need your help...[snip]
 

Slow Code wrote:
"Steve N." wrote in
:

OK, OK, OK I'll bite just a bit...

This still comes directly from the "CW or nothing" concept.
73 (in the truest sense)



My arguement has always been for the quality of the hams. You appreciate
something more that you had to work to achieve, and respect the rewards
it gives.
you arguement is false

I value things based on their proifit to me

My tech license is higher profitable becuase it took little to get and
get me a lot

Cheapening something makes it disposable.
how is making testing reflect reality cheapening?
Ham numbers are declining.
becuase of age mostly

hams are litterly dying off

sc

ARRL members, I need your help. Friggen low-life scum.
 

On 2006-05-25, Slow Code wrote:


to be a ham now days, so licensing requirements have to be low in order to
help keep our numbers up. They won't work for a license.

I don't think that's entirely true. I'm working for my license.
Learning code, radio and antenna theory, SMT, and every other thing I
can think of. Got an ARRL Handbook ('91), a cheapo hand key, and a G.
West test book. Do I think code should be required? Yes. IMO,
knowing what I'm doing is what being a ham is all about. Knowing code
is part of that. In fact, with the possible spread of BPL, CW may
again become the only way to punch through. If I just wanted to press
a button and yap, I'd buy a CB or a cellphone.

nb

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

Slow Code wrote:
(Dave Platt) wrote in
:



Reading all you wrote, what you are basically saying is that no one wants
to be a ham now days, so licensing requirements have to be low in order to
help keep our numbers up. They won't work for a license.

well your posts do tend to show you can't read what anyone write
sc

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

assraped by an_old_friend wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
(Dave Platt) wrote in
:



Reading all you wrote, what you are basically saying is that no one wants
to be a ham now days, so licensing requirements have to be low in order to
help keep our numbers up. They won't work for a license.

well your posts do tend to show you can't read what anyone write

Oh, the irony!

Markie Morgan, kb9rqz, proves his illiteracy when he slobbered
in Message-ID: .com:
"Icertainly can so I am not ileiterate"

ARRL members, I need your help.
 

wrote:
assraped by an_old_friend wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
(Dave Platt) wrote in
:



Reading all you wrote, what you are basically saying is that no one wants
to be a ham now days, so licensing requirements have to be low in order to
help keep our numbers up. They won't work for a license.

well your posts do tend to show you can't read what anyone write

Oh, the irony!
irony just fear the oirignal post s sucha fossil