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On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:36:21 -0400, "clfe" wrote:


I am of the opinion that a 5 WPM at least - should be kept on as a
requirement - as someday - it may be needed. Think not? Say you're in the
midst of an attack - of terrorism, a war on our homefront OR a large scale
natural disaster, a microphone isn't working or available. You can key the
radio but don't know code - now what? With code, even at 5 WPM - you could
get some very important information to those needing it to help save you -
to them. You could tell them WITH code, what is needed, exact whereabouts,
how many people involved, etc........ Just clicking a mic pin with a wire
won't tell anyone anything and could delay any help or a response big enough
to do much good. In these times with the large scale disasters as we've seen
and attacks - even for any said to be planned, NOW is a good time to WANT to
know code. IT may save you........ It is one of those skills you learn -
just like CPR or whatever - you hope you never have to use, but you're glad
you have it - when you need it.

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Your priorities are skewed. Since there are only so many hours
allotted to us, what would be a better way to spend your spare time:

1. Learning morse code for the above mike-failure scenario?
2. Stocking up food, water and ammo for the above mike-failure
scenario?

You have been reading too many stories of the valiant radio op on the
Titanic. Ain't gonna happen.

Bill, W6WRT
20 wpm Extra, but realistic about it

Bill Turner wrote:
You have been reading too many stories of the valiant radio op on the
Titanic. Ain't gonna happen.

Seems the bullies are not all on SSB after all. Didn't the
Titanic's CW operator bully the California's CW operator to
such an extent that he turned off, turned in, and the rest
is history?
--
73, Cecil http://www.qsl.net/w5dxp

"Bill Turner" wrote in message
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ORIGINAL MESSAGE:

On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:36:21 -0400, "clfe" wrote:


I am of the opinion that a 5 WPM at least - should be kept on as a
requirement - as someday - it may be needed. Think not? Say you're in the
midst of an attack - of terrorism, a war on our homefront OR a large scale
natural disaster, a microphone isn't working or available. You can key the
radio but don't know code - now what? With code, even at 5 WPM - you could
get some very important information to those needing it to help save you -
to them. You could tell them WITH code, what is needed, exact whereabouts,
how many people involved, etc........ Just clicking a mic pin with a wire
won't tell anyone anything and could delay any help or a response big
enough
to do much good. In these times with the large scale disasters as we've
seen
and attacks - even for any said to be planned, NOW is a good time to WANT
to
know code. IT may save you........ It is one of those skills you learn -
just like CPR or whatever - you hope you never have to use, but you're
glad
you have it - when you need it.

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Your priorities are skewed. Since there are only so many hours
allotted to us, what would be a better way to spend your spare time:

1. Learning morse code for the above mike-failure scenario?
2. Stocking up food, water and ammo for the above mike-failure
scenario?

You have been reading too many stories of the valiant radio op on the
Titanic. Ain't gonna happen.

Bill, W6WRT
20 wpm Extra, but realistic about it



Not really, but I'm not in a mood to argue about stupid **** - anymore.
Actually, I could care less. My ham days are few and far in between due to
all the ass holes on there ruining it for the rest of us. Maybe you're
right.......... the code really didn't keep the crud off the radios. Hell,
why even have a test at all.

clfe wrote:

Not really, but I'm not in a mood to argue about stupid **** - anymore.
Actually, I could care less. My ham days are few and far in between due to
all the ass holes on there ruining it for the rest of us. Maybe you're
right.......... the code really didn't keep the crud off the radios. Hell,
why even have a test at all.




Time to hang up your ticket I guess. We are all assholes, and you are
the only "true ham radio operator" left. Go play with yourself.

tom
K0TAR

"Tom Ring" wrote in message
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clfe wrote:

Not really, but I'm not in a mood to argue about stupid **** - anymore.
Actually, I could care less. My ham days are few and far in between due
to all the ass holes on there ruining it for the rest of us. Maybe you're
right.......... the code really didn't keep the crud off the radios.
Hell, why even have a test at all.




Time to hang up your ticket I guess. We are all assholes, and you are the
only "true ham radio operator" left. Go play with yourself.

tom
K0TAR

Nah, not all of "us" or "you" in the case of your statement. I'm just saying
a lot of crap is going on - on the bands today and its not worth even
earning a ticket for - anymore. Ham radio and yes, even CB - used to be
respectable at one time. How times change. Its hardly worth turning on the
radio anymore. Especially on say 10 and 80 meters. But back to "your"
statement, there are still "many" decent operators on both the Ham AND CB
bands - out there. Ya just got to pick through the rubble to find them
sometimes.

And NO, I"m not the "ONLY" "TRUE" Operator left........ Don't put words in
my mouth, I certainly didn't place myself on any pedestal. Again - there are
LOTS of decent operators out there. I didn't say "ALL" were bad - but there
are - you have to admit - quite a few bad ones. Its gotten worse in the past
few years.

clfe wrote:

Not really, but I'm not in a mood to argue about stupid **** - anymore.
Actually, I could care less. My ham days are few and far in between due to
all the ass holes on there ruining it for the rest of us. Maybe you're
right.......... the code really didn't keep the crud off the radios. Hell,
why even have a test at all.


And at least we admit who we are. You, on the other hand, are hiding.
You are likely just a frigging troll that isn't even licensed.

tom
K0TAR

"Tom Ring" wrote in message
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clfe wrote:

Not really, but I'm not in a mood to argue about stupid **** - anymore.
Actually, I could care less. My ham days are few and far in between due
to all the ass holes on there ruining it for the rest of us. Maybe you're
right.......... the code really didn't keep the crud off the radios.
Hell, why even have a test at all.


And at least we admit who we are. You, on the other hand, are hiding. You
are likely just a frigging troll that isn't even licensed.

tom
K0TAR



I don't sign with my call. Some like to - that is their choice. But even if
they didn't - wouldn't give me any reason to doubt them being licensed.
"Posting" a call sign doesn't prove a thing. "I" for one - am NOT going to
go running to the FCC database to check your call or any other to see if it
is legit. I don't care........

clfe wrote:
"Tom Ring" wrote in message
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clfe wrote:

And at least we admit who we are. You, on the other hand, are hiding. You
are likely just a frigging troll that isn't even licensed.

tom
K0TAR



I don't sign with my call. Some like to - that is their choice. But even if
they didn't - wouldn't give me any reason to doubt them being licensed.
"Posting" a call sign doesn't prove a thing. "I" for one - am NOT going to
go running to the FCC database to check your call or any other to see if it
is legit. I don't care........

OTOH there are those that do indeed run the database everytie they see
a call Robeson (k4yz) is one and a real ass about ti too

Give up CB for Ham.....what the hell would you be giving up?
"Bill Turner" wrote in message
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On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 09:36:21 -0400, "clfe" wrote:


I am of the opinion that a 5 WPM at least - should be kept on as a
requirement - as someday - it may be needed. Think not? Say you're in the
midst of an attack - of terrorism, a war on our homefront OR a large scale
natural disaster, a microphone isn't working or available. You can key the
radio but don't know code - now what? With code, even at 5 WPM - you could
get some very important information to those needing it to help save you -
to them. You could tell them WITH code, what is needed, exact whereabouts,
how many people involved, etc........ Just clicking a mic pin with a wire
won't tell anyone anything and could delay any help or a response big
enough
to do much good. In these times with the large scale disasters as we've
seen
and attacks - even for any said to be planned, NOW is a good time to WANT
to
know code. IT may save you........ It is one of those skills you learn -
just like CPR or whatever - you hope you never have to use, but you're
glad
you have it - when you need it.

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

Your priorities are skewed. Since there are only so many hours
allotted to us, what would be a better way to spend your spare time:

1. Learning morse code for the above mike-failure scenario?
2. Stocking up food, water and ammo for the above mike-failure
scenario?

You have been reading too many stories of the valiant radio op on the
Titanic. Ain't gonna happen.

Bill, W6WRT
20 wpm Extra, but realistic about it