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Slow Code December 2nd 06 01:41 AM

CW IS ham radio. It's about communication and learning.
 

But you people that want to rid the service of the code requirement, fail
to see the value. Sure have to learn CW make take a little time, but once
you learn it and you it, you'll develope a better appreciation for what it
means to be a ham, and our history.

SC

A. G. Bell December 2nd 06 06:01 AM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 

wrote in message
...
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:41:37 GMT, Slow Code wrote:


But you people that want to rid the service of the code requirement, fail
to see the value.


Indeed I fail to se what value I have for the time I have wasteed
morse code
Sure have to learn CW make take a little time, but once
you learn it and you it, you'll develope a better appreciation for what

it
means to be a ham, and our history.


nope I understand itplace and therefore I do advocate banning the USE
of the mode in order to stop the damage that is done by cutlure that
has grown up arround it

SC



Hardly a "culture", Mork. CW was part and parcel (still is) of advancing a
licensee (through incentive/reward for effort), onward and upward to the
earned priveleges of expanded band use.

You rail, indeed moan, that you should be afforded the same priveleges as
those who have earned their just rewards while your desire is to sit back
and wait for the priveleges to be handed to you.

The only imagined damage that has been fomented toward you by CW advocates
is that they oft call you on the carpet for expounding day after day that
Ham Radio should not be "dumbed down" to meet your selfish wishes. You take
umbrage that they have the "gasp!" audacity to refute your weak arguments.

Life's a bitch, ain't it, Mark? Why should anybody have to work for
anything?
It's like saying they don't deserve it.









M Peraaho December 2nd 06 05:43 PM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
The Indians use to communicate with smoke signals. Learning smoke signals
should be mandatory. This would separate the men from the boys. Smoke
signals are not dependent on electricity. You can use a match or rub two
sticks together. This is the only reliable way of passing messages when all
else fails.



John Smith December 2nd 06 06:15 PM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
M Peraaho wrote:
The Indians use to communicate with smoke signals. Learning smoke signals
should be mandatory. This would separate the men from the boys. Smoke
signals are not dependent on electricity. You can use a match or rub two
sticks together. This is the only reliable way of passing messages when all
else fails.


Hey:

Everybody knows if you were in a plane crash and the mic for your vhf am
radio broke, you could always key the transmitter and send morse to
convey your SOS. So, what you propose is very logical, also have the
radio operator learn smoke signals! Then, if not only the mic was
busted, but also the radio itself was busted, you could build a fire,
take your coat and send your SOS!

You fit in here rather well! They like that thinking! grin

JS

John Smith December 2nd 06 06:20 PM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
John Smith wrote:
M Peraaho wrote:


But what about drums, maybe the radio operator is not carrying matches.
In that case he would have to take out his pocket knife, hollow out a
log, hunt down some critter, kill and skin the critter, remove the hair
from the hide, dry the hide, stretch the hide over the hollow log and
send "drum signals."

Of course, if he didn't have a pocket knife he would be up the river...
frown

JS

John Smith December 2nd 06 06:23 PM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
John Smith wrote:
John Smith wrote:
M Peraaho wrote:


Hey, wait a minute!

Is there a standardized set of smoke and drum signals which are
recognized worldwide? Or, will we need to set up an international
commission to standardize these?

Hmmm. Maybe better to forget the smoke and drum signals and toss morse
along with 'em?

JS

Rayburn December 2nd 06 10:50 PM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
I learned CW.....Got really good at it and wound up at almost 30
wpm......Then got bored and havent used it in ten years. I have no use for
it anymore whatsoever!

I dont care if they ban it or not....I could care less. As an Extra class op
with 38 years as a ham I do what I want when I want to.
wrote in message
...
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 01:41:37 GMT, Slow Code wrote:


But you people that want to rid the service of the code requirement, fail
to see the value.


Indeed I fail to se what value I have for the time I have wasteed
morse code
Sure have to learn CW make take a little time, but once
you learn it and you it, you'll develope a better appreciation for what it
means to be a ham, and our history.


nope I understand itplace and therefore I do advocate banning the USE
of the mode in order to stop the damage that is done by cutlure that
has grown up arround it

SC

http://kb9rqz.blogspot.com/

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Slow Code December 3rd 06 12:35 AM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
"M Peraaho" wrote in
:

The Indians use to communicate with smoke signals. Learning smoke
signals should be mandatory. This would separate the men from the boys.
Smoke signals are not dependent on electricity. You can use a match or
rub two sticks together. This is the only reliable way of passing
messages when all else fails.



Dear MP,

Please pull your friggen head out of your ass and use your brain for once.

Smoke signals are a line of sight form of communication and you can't see
them at night unless the fire is extremely large, and smoke signals don't
work well in natural disasters like huricanes and tornados. Blind people
can't see them either, they can only smell the smoke.

CW works well all the time, unless you're too lazy or dumb to learn it.
In which case you'll probably want to stick to playing with your matches
and smoke bombs.


SC

Slow Code December 3rd 06 12:35 AM

CW IS ham radio. You earned buddy, enjoy it.
 
"Rayburn" wrote in
:

I learned CW.....Got really good at it and wound up at almost 30
wpm......Then got bored and havent used it in ten years. I have no use
for it anymore whatsoever!

I dont care if they ban it or not....I could care less. As an Extra
class op with 38 years as a ham I do what I want when I want to.



You Earned that right too, when you passed the 20 wpm code test, and
you should flaunt it around like I do. Here are some ideas I like:

No-code hams should have to stand up salute when you walk into a room,
even ones in wheelchairs.

You get to sit in a chair at club meetings and if all the chairs are
taken you can make a no-code or nickel ham sit on the floor.

First in line for the refreshments, ahead of the 13wpm hams and the nickel
hams is always nice too. Don't forget your cattle prod.

73 to you my extra class friend, you earned it. Everyone else these days
just wants a welfare handout license.

SC

John Smith December 3rd 06 01:08 AM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
Rayburn wrote:
I learned CW.....Got really good at it and wound up at almost 30
wpm......Then got bored and havent used it in ten years. I have no use for
it anymore whatsoever!


Rayburn:

Well, you are normal, what more need I say? It's the ones (one?) here
which isn't which worries us!

JS

Dr.Ace December 3rd 06 01:59 AM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 

"Rayburn" wrote in message
...
I learned CW.....Got really good at it and wound up at almost 30
wpm......Then got bored and havent used it in ten years. I have no use for
it anymore whatsoever!

I dont care if they ban it or not....I could care less. As an Extra class
op with 38 years as a ham I do what I want when I want to.


The big difference between you and I is ,
I have a callsign , and I'm not afraid to use it ;-D
Ace - WH2T



David G. Nagel December 3rd 06 04:17 AM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
Slow Code wrote:
"M Peraaho" wrote in
:


The Indians use to communicate with smoke signals. Learning smoke
signals should be mandatory. This would separate the men from the boys.
Smoke signals are not dependent on electricity. You can use a match or
rub two sticks together. This is the only reliable way of passing
messages when all else fails.




Dear MP,

Please pull your friggen head out of your ass and use your brain for once.

Smoke signals are a line of sight form of communication and you can't see
them at night unless the fire is extremely large, and smoke signals don't
work well in natural disasters like huricanes and tornados. Blind people
can't see them either, they can only smell the smoke.

CW works well all the time, unless you're too lazy or dumb to learn it.
In which case you'll probably want to stick to playing with your matches
and smoke bombs.


SC


If you want to go slightly higher tech you could use a Heliograph. Of
course they don't work at night either or on a cloudy day but the signal
can be directed like a beam antenna.

Dave N

Tom Ring December 3rd 06 04:43 AM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
David G. Nagel wrote:
Slow Code wrote:

"M Peraaho" wrote in
:

The Indians use to communicate with smoke signals. Learning smoke
signals should be mandatory. This would separate the men from the boys.
Smoke signals are not dependent on electricity. You can use a match or
rub two sticks together. This is the only reliable way of passing
messages when all else fails.





Dear MP,

Please pull your friggen head out of your ass and use your brain for
once.

Smoke signals are a line of sight form of communication and you can't see
them at night unless the fire is extremely large, and smoke signals don't
work well in natural disasters like huricanes and tornados. Blind people
can't see them either, they can only smell the smoke.
CW works well all the time, unless you're too lazy or dumb to learn
it. In which case you'll probably want to stick to playing with your
matches
and smoke bombs.

SC



If you want to go slightly higher tech you could use a Heliograph. Of
course they don't work at night either or on a cloudy day but the signal
can be directed like a beam antenna.

Dave N


These CW vs The World arguments are amusing, kind of like old
programmers claimimg BASIC is the only way to go, or old database guys
who would claim that flatfile databases are better than SQL.

tom
K0TAR

Scott December 3rd 06 04:48 AM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
Unless they're deaf...



Slow Code wrote:

"M Peraaho" wrote in
:




CW works well all the time, unless you're too lazy or dumb to learn it.



SC


Scott December 3rd 06 04:49 AM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
BASIC??!!?? That sucks! Machine language is where it's at! :)

Scott
N0EDV

Tom Ring wrote:

David G. Nagel wrote:

Slow Code wrote:

"M Peraaho" wrote in
:

The Indians use to communicate with smoke signals. Learning smoke
signals should be mandatory. This would separate the men from the
boys.
Smoke signals are not dependent on electricity. You can use a match or
rub two sticks together. This is the only reliable way of passing
messages when all else fails.





Dear MP,

Please pull your friggen head out of your ass and use your brain for
once.

Smoke signals are a line of sight form of communication and you can't
see
them at night unless the fire is extremely large, and smoke signals
don't
work well in natural disasters like huricanes and tornados. Blind people
can't see them either, they can only smell the smoke. CW works well
all the time, unless you're too lazy or dumb to learn it. In which
case you'll probably want to stick to playing with your matches
and smoke bombs.

SC




If you want to go slightly higher tech you could use a Heliograph. Of
course they don't work at night either or on a cloudy day but the
signal can be directed like a beam antenna.

Dave N



These CW vs The World arguments are amusing, kind of like old
programmers claimimg BASIC is the only way to go, or old database guys
who would claim that flatfile databases are better than SQL.

tom
K0TAR


John Doe December 3rd 06 04:41 PM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
In a lot of areas - the FIRE DEPTS. don't approve of OPEN BURNINGS - so
I guess that means that you would have to get the local fire depts. blessing
prior to your disaster to use smoke!

Reference to the subject - if one did not want to use pure CW (if there
is a mental or physical block from learning it) - there are other digital
signals that could be used, i.e.:PSK31, etc.

Other line of site communications could be - focused white light beams,
Lasers, flags, etc.

I think the real issue is that you and some of your friends are just
plain against CW, (and you want to turn everybody else in that same
direction), you don't use it, you don't want to learn it, etc. If that is
the case, then why don't you just drop it - QUIT NAGGING LIKE AN OLD LADY -
and go onto some other subject or project?
73's

snip



Dr.Ace December 3rd 06 05:19 PM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 

"John Doe" wrote in message
...
In a lot of areas - the FIRE DEPTS. don't approve of OPEN BURNINGS - so
I guess that means that you would have to get the local fire depts.
blessing prior to your disaster to use smoke!

Reference to the subject - if one did not want to use pure CW (if there
is a mental or physical block from learning it) - there are other digital
signals that could be used, i.e.:PSK31, etc.

Other line of site communications could be - focused white light beams,
Lasers, flags, etc.

I think the real issue is that you and some of your friends are just
plain against CW, (and you want to turn everybody else in that same
direction), you don't use it, you don't want to learn it, etc. If that is
the case, then why don't you just drop it - QUIT NAGGING LIKE AN OLD
LADY - and go onto some other subject or project?
73's

snip

That will never happen SC is like a broken record . New day same old
postings from SC .
Ace - WH2T



[email protected] December 3rd 06 06:07 PM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 
From: John Smith on Sat, Dec 2 2006 10:15 am

M Peraaho wrote:
The Indians use to communicate with smoke signals. Learning smoke signals
should be mandatory. This would separate the men from the boys. Smoke
signals are not dependent on electricity. You can use a match or rub two
sticks together. This is the only reliable way of passing messages when all
else fails.

Hey:

Everybody knows if you were in a plane crash and the mic for your vhf am
radio broke, you could always key the transmitter and send morse to
convey your SOS. So, what you propose is very logical, also have the
radio operator learn smoke signals! Then, if not only the mic was
busted, but also the radio itself was busted, you could build a fire,
take your coat and send your SOS!


John, you are forgetting basic theory:

All electronics works by means of smoke.

If the smoke leaks out, it won't work!

LA

:-)


remark December 4th 06 12:17 AM

Please do not feed the troll
 
Slow Code wrote:
[troll]

.:::/:/:.
+-------------------+ :.:::/:/:.:
| | :=.' - - '.=:
| PLEASE DO NOT | '=( 9 9 /)='
| FEED THE TROLLS | ( (_) )
| | /`-vvv-'
+-------------------+ /
| | @@@ / /|,,,,,|
| | @@@ /_// /^ \_
@x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
||||/ | | | __,, /,,/__
||/ | | | (______Y______)
///////////\//////////////////////
================================================== ================

Not Cocksucker Lloyd December 4th 06 03:14 PM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 

wrote:
remark wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
[troll]

.:::/:/:.
+-------------------+ :.:::/:/:.:
| | :=.' - - '.=:
| PLEASE DO NOT | '=( 9 9 /)='
| FEED THE TROLLS | ( (_) )
| | /`-vvv-'
+-------------------+ /
| | @@@ / /|,,,,,|
| | @@@ /_// /^ \_
@x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
||||/ | | | __,, /,,/__
||/ | | | (______Y______)
///////////\//////////////////////
================================================== ================


why not if you can feed the trol the right sort of stuff you can push
yourthing if you don't feed em they become more vicous like Robeson
till theire every post is practicaly spetic


Post in English, child raper!


Billy cumgobbler Smith December 4th 06 09:32 PM

CW IS ham radio. bullshit
 

wrote:
On 4 Dec 2006 07:14:15 -0800, "Not Cocksucker Lloyd"
wrote:


wrote:
remark wrote:
Slow Code wrote:
[troll]

.:::/:/:.
+-------------------+ :.:::/:/:.:
| | :=.' - - '.=:
| PLEASE DO NOT | '=( 9 9 /)='
| FEED THE TROLLS | ( (_) )
| | /`-vvv-'
+-------------------+ /
| | @@@ / /|,,,,,|
| | @@@ /_// /^ \_
@x@@x@ | | |/ WW( ( ) )WW
||||/ | | | __,, /,,/__
||/ | | | (______Y______)
///////////\//////////////////////
================================================== ================

why not if you can feed the trol the right sort of stuff you can push
yourthing if you don't feed em they become more vicous like Robeson
till theire every post is practicaly spetic


child raper!

I do woger


Markie admits it!


Slow Code December 8th 06 12:35 AM

CW IS ham radio. You earned buddy, enjoy it.
 
Markie in the Darkie,wrote in
:

On Sun, 03 Dec 2006 00:35:04 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

"Rayburn" wrote in
:

I learned CW.....Got really good at it and wound up at almost 30
wpm......Then got bored and havent used it in ten years. I have no use
for it anymore whatsoever!

I dont care if they ban it or not....I could care less. As an Extra
class op with 38 years as a ham I do what I want when I want to.



You Earned that right too, when you passed the 20 wpm code test, and
you should flaunt it around like I do. Here are some ideas I like:

No-code hams should have to stand up salute when you walk into a room,
even ones in wheelchairs.

You get to sit in a chair at club meetings and if all the chairs are
taken you can make a no-code or nickel ham sit on the floor.

First in line for the refreshments, ahead of the 13wpm hams and the
nickel hams is always nice too. Don't forget your cattle prod.

73 to you my extra class friend, you earned it. Everyone else these
days just wants a welfare handout license.


even you admited you are a bad ham

you have also admitted you want to kill Ham radio



Even the ones in wheelchairs...


Now, get me some coffee and cookies, then sit over there on the floor.

SC

Slow Code December 8th 06 12:35 AM

CW IS ham radio. You earned buddy, enjoy it.
 
"Spokesman" wrote in
:


"W3JLU Al" wrote in message
...
I also have mastered CW very well and have used it many times in weak
signal work on 2 meters. I have an Advanced license and never felt the
need yo go beyond if for my purposes.

As to whether I still feel it's a hugh priority, no I don't.

With today's modes of communication it does seem out-moded.

My typing is better than ever and many new modes use a keyboard. :-)

JMO





Slow Code is not a true Ham. From the time the first Ham was born
true Hams have always used the latest and newest technology. Slow
seems to be stuck back in the stone age , still using 4 pins vacuum
tubes.




Run along now to the radio store, they might have your appliance on sale.

SC


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